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Near earth Asteroid 2012 KP24 0.1 LD!

 
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This object is too new for NASA to post past Close Approach history, so I ran JPL orbit program backward to spot last close approach which was the week of May 31, 1983. That same week one of the 2 biggest quakes in years hit. Probably means nothing though...

1980's 7.8 or greater

PDE 1980 07 08 231919.80 -12.41 166.38 33 7.8 UKBRK .F. .......
PDE 1980 07 17 194223.20 -12.52 165.92 33 8.0 UKBRK .F. .T.....
PDE 1983 03 18 090550 -4.88 153.58 88 7.9 MSBRK 7DM .T....M
PDE 1983 05 26 025959.60 40.46 139.10 23 7.8 MSPAL 8CM .T.....
PDE 1985 03 03 224707.28 -33.13 -71.87 33 7.8 MsGS 8CM ST....M
PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M
PDE 1986 05 07 224710.87 51.52 -174.78 33 8.0 MwHRV 6DM .T.....
PDE 1986 10 20 064609.98 -28.12 -176.37 29 8.3 MSBRK .FM .T.....
PDE 1986 11 14 212010.55 23.90 121.57 33 7.8 MsGS 8CM ......S
PDE 1987 11 30 192319.59 58.68 -142.79 10 7.9 MwHRV 6DM .T.....
PDE 1988 03 06 223538.14 56.95 -143.03 10 7.8 MwHRV 5DM .T.....
PDE 1989 05 23 105446.32 -52.34 160.57 10 8.2 MsGS 5FM .T.....
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker


JPL Small-Body Database Browser
Note: .... The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances. For accurate long-term ephemerides, please instead use our Horizons system.

Last time you ran JPL orbit program backward your "calculation/prediction" was way off: you: orbit some days - JPL: orbit some years.

Stop the BS of using the orbit diagram for your "predictions".
Even with a condition code of "0" it's accurate for only a short time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995



... Would you say the NASA Close Approach tables are accurate?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Yes.
And you yourself ride on the JPL data.



... And which one was I way off on, ...
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Thread: Another close 2012 asteroid out of nowhere - Happy Mothers Day!!! (Page 2)
But I was also off - your orbit "calculation" not some days but 16 years - JPL orbit 3.2 years.



... and how did you confirm it?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

It confirmed itself by the asteroids flyby.



But let me ask you a question too:
How do you confirm your EQ - asteroid relation?

From 8+, 7+ down to measly 6.2 and by now you take a mischievous pleasure in a 5.something.

Hip, hip, hooray! We got a 5.2 - earthquakes influenced by asteroids confirmed.

Since almost one month no 7+ - and how many asteroids flew by earth during that time?



.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995


FORUM QUESTION PLEASE

This:

PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M

SOMETHING TO DO WITH MEXICO EARTHQUAKE FROM 19TH SEP 1985??gasp

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I'm not astronomer but just a quick Google search for lunar distance (LD) conversion shows that .1 LD come out to 23,885.571 miles. That's not even close to hitting the earth.

Check it out for yourself
[link to www.easysurf.cc]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit


I don't know if you are wrong or not does any one know if the distance from earth is actually from the center of the earth? I had heard before that was the case and was just curious.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.

A Wikipedia article posted in my previous post in this thread in regards to 2012 DA14 states that these distances are typically from the center of the Earth. This makes sense because these objects should be calculated from a center point, not from the surface which can vary.

"On February 15, 2013, DA14 will pass no closer than 0.000181 AU (27,100 km; 16,800 mi) from the center-point of the Earth, which is no closer to the Earth's surface than 3.2 Earth radii."
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I'm not astronomer but just a quick Google search for lunar distance (LD) conversion shows that .1 LD come out to 23,885.571 miles. That's not even close to hitting the earth.

Check it out for yourself
[link to www.easysurf.cc]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit


I don't know if you are wrong or not does any one know if the distance from earth is actually from the center of the earth? I had heard before that was the case and was just curious.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

You can express it either as a distance from the surface of the earth or the center of the earth. You're just trying to do the math to find the distance from the surface. It doesn't matter, it's still 1 tenth the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon in that case. If you take the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon and multiply it by 0.1 you'll still get the same number. See what I'm saying?
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Re: Near earth Asteroid 2012 KP24 0.1 LD!
I'm not astronomer but just a quick Google search for lunar distance (LD) conversion shows that .1 LD come out to 23,885.571 miles. That's not even close to hitting the earth.

Check it out for yourself
[link to www.easysurf.cc]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit


I don't know if you are wrong or not does any one know if the distance from earth is actually from the center of the earth? I had heard before that was the case and was just curious.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.

A Wikipedia article posted in my previous post in this thread in regards to 2012 DA14 states that these distances are typically from the center of the Earth. This makes sense because these objects should be calculated from a center point, not from the surface which can vary.

"On February 15, 2013, DA14 will pass no closer than 0.000181 AU (27,100 km; 16,800 mi) from the center-point of the Earth, which is no closer to the Earth's surface than 3.2 Earth radii."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915


I'm seeing 2012 KP24 being 0.0003776415 AU's from Earth on the JPL web site which figures to 0.146967 LD's. Given that the Earth radius is a distance of 0.016537 then the closest this asteroid will come to Earth is roughly 9 Earth radii.
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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I don't know if you are wrong or not does any one know if the distance from earth is actually from the center of the earth? I had heard before that was the case and was just curious.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

You can express it either as a distance from the surface of the earth or the center of the earth. You're just trying to do the math to find the distance from the surface. It doesn't matter, it's still 1 tenth the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon in that case. If you take the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon and multiply it by 0.1 you'll still get the same number. See what I'm saying?
 Quoting: Astromut


No you won't. Not if it's measured from the center of the Earth which these objects are. Granted, the surface of the Earth is only 0.016537 LD but you have to subtract that from the distance that an asteroid will come to the center of the Earth.

Most of the time this is negligible but as we have seen with 2012 DA14 that object will be within 3.2 Earth radii from the surface of our planet. This means it will be 4.2 Earth radii from the center of Earth.
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I don't know if you are wrong or not does any one know if the distance from earth is actually from the center of the earth? I had heard before that was the case and was just curious.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.

A Wikipedia article posted in my previous post in this thread in regards to 2012 DA14 states that these distances are typically from the center of the Earth. This makes sense because these objects should be calculated from a center point, not from the surface which can vary.

"On February 15, 2013, DA14 will pass no closer than 0.000181 AU (27,100 km; 16,800 mi) from the center-point of the Earth, which is no closer to the Earth's surface than 3.2 Earth radii."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915


I'm seeing 2012 KP24 being 0.0003776415 AU's from Earth on the JPL web site which figures to 0.146967 LD's. Given that the Earth radius is a distance of 0.016537 then the closest this asteroid will come to Earth is roughly 9 Earth radii.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915


Some people only understand pictures, not numbers. LOL!

You say this asteroid will come within 9 Earth radii to the surface of Earth. That is 4 1/2 Earth diameters.

The "o" on the left in bold is the Earth. If you stack up 5 Earths to the right of it then this asteroid will come somewhere in the middle of the 5th "o" (see below):

oooooo
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Every day they are "finding" new near earth objects. I heard this has something to do with earth entering the ort cloud. So we should expect a lot more? Not sure bc I haven't really looked into it. Anyone have more info?
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0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance
given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

You can express it either as a distance from the surface of the earth or the center of the earth. You're just trying to do the math to find the distance from the surface. It doesn't matter, it's still 1 tenth the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon in that case. If you take the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon and multiply it by 0.1 you'll still get the same number. See what I'm saying?
 Quoting: Astromut


No you won't. Not if it's measured from the center of the Earth which these objects are. Granted, the surface of the Earth is only 0.016537 LD but you have to subtract that from the distance that an asteroid will come to the center of the Earth.

Most of the time this is negligible but as we have seen with 2012 DA14 that object will be within 3.2 Earth radii from the surface of our planet. This means it will be 4.2 Earth radii from the center of Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

Can I buy a vowel.....and what's earth's D. 16500 km?
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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0.1 LD means 0.1 LD. It means one tenth the distance to the moon. You can express that either as a distance from the center of the earth or a distance from earth's surface.
 Quoting: Astromut


The mean radius of the earth is around 3950 miles (6400 km). This is a LD of 0.016537. So when we are talking about an object coming within 0.1 LD of the Earth, we must subtract the 0.016537 from the distance given to find the distance to the surface of the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

You can express it either as a distance from the surface of the earth or the center of the earth. You're just trying to do the math to find the distance from the surface. It doesn't matter, it's still 1 tenth the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon in that case. If you take the distance from the surface of the earth to the moon and multiply it by 0.1 you'll still get the same number. See what I'm saying?
 Quoting: Astromut


No you won't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915

Yeah, you're right, I was having a brain fart. The difference will be small but there will be a difference there.
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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good video astro keep up the good work
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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 Quoting: Astromut


TY. And how's the data look for New record for class?
Ranking as a near-mis? Thnks
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
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good video astro keep up the good work
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Thanks!
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
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good video astro keep up the good work
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Thanks!
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Thank you for taking the time to investigate and produce a video!!!
Love & Light...
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Astromut your about as solid as they come anywhere. Ill take his word over anyone GLper any day of the week when it comes to the heavens.

TY for your time and efforts in combating fear based propaganda from these rocktards :) :peace:

Can u guys stfu with this its going to hit. 25k is a huge area when were talking about a 26m object travelling at 13km/s. If im doing my math right isnt there a 1 and 1553 chance of it hitting? Thats a horrid spread if your wanting this thing to hit.
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LOL "Rocktards"? This is a site for the "Lunatic Fringe", just look above moron.

I love all of you that kiss the ass of astroqueer. For you, there is nothing like the smell of fresh ass in the morning,

He has been right about so many things, but the one time he is wrong, LOL you are all fucked.

I hope he is wrong here. I would love to have this rock hit us and thin the ass kissing herd a bit

Either way I am okay...we all live or we all die...I hate you all either way
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Astromut



 Quoting: Astromut


Thanks for explaining the condition code too, it makes a lot of sense the way you describe it.

GJ astromut!
Fuck Yea!
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Astromut


Question for astromut. Do you sleep? I've noticed you seem able to reply to all threads that are pinned and some that aren't concerning anything to do with space on average within a few hours of posting. Are you one person? Beginning to think there are a few of you manning the astromut profile
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This object is too new for NASA to post past Close Approach history, so I ran JPL orbit program backward to spot last close approach which was the week of May 31, 1983. That same week one of the 2 biggest quakes in years hit. Probably means nothing though...

1980's 7.8 or greater

PDE 1980 07 08 231919.80 -12.41 166.38 33 7.8 UKBRK .F. .......
PDE 1980 07 17 194223.20 -12.52 165.92 33 8.0 UKBRK .F. .T.....
PDE 1983 03 18 090550 -4.88 153.58 88 7.9 MSBRK 7DM .T....M
PDE 1983 05 26 025959.60 40.46 139.10 23 7.8 MSPAL 8CM .T.....
PDE 1985 03 03 224707.28 -33.13 -71.87 33 7.8 MsGS 8CM ST....M
PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M
PDE 1986 05 07 224710.87 51.52 -174.78 33 8.0 MwHRV 6DM .T.....
PDE 1986 10 20 064609.98 -28.12 -176.37 29 8.3 MSBRK .FM .T.....
PDE 1986 11 14 212010.55 23.90 121.57 33 7.8 MsGS 8CM ......S
PDE 1987 11 30 192319.59 58.68 -142.79 10 7.9 MwHRV 6DM .T.....
PDE 1988 03 06 223538.14 56.95 -143.03 10 7.8 MwHRV 5DM .T.....
PDE 1989 05 23 105446.32 -52.34 160.57 10 8.2 MsGS 5FM .T.....
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker


JPL Small-Body Database Browser
Note: .... The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances. For accurate long-term ephemerides, please instead use our Horizons system.

Last time you ran JPL orbit program backward your "calculation/prediction" was way off: you: orbit some days - JPL: orbit some years.

Stop the BS of using the orbit diagram for your "predictions".
Even with a condition code of "0" it's accurate for only a short time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995



... Would you say the NASA Close Approach tables are accurate?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Yes.
And you yourself ride on the JPL data.



... And which one was I way off on, ...
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Thread: Another close 2012 asteroid out of nowhere - Happy Mothers Day!!! (Page 2)
But I was also off - your orbit "calculation" not some days but 16 years - JPL orbit 3.2 years.



... and how did you confirm it?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

It confirmed itself by the asteroids flyby.



But let me ask you a question too:
How do you confirm your EQ - asteroid relation?

From 8+, 7+ down to measly 6.2 and by now you take a mischievous pleasure in a 5.something.

Hip, hip, hooray! We got a 5.2 - earthquakes influenced by asteroids confirmed.

Since almost one month no 7+ - and how many asteroids flew by earth during that time?



.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995


The errors you talk about were mis-communication. On one post I said something like an object made a close approach every 16 years, and someone (you?) thought I was stating the orbit, which is different.

I do not count 5 mag quakes unless part of a swarm around a larger significant one, of if quake is labelled "significant" by USGS like when we had a 4+ in Colorado and Virginia that made their list. For general mag I think 6.5+ is significant, but I also think the 6.0 in Italy was and not on USGS list (???).
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condition code 9


[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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that makes the 2nd 9 i have seen in a week, and there was also an 8. things are seeming a bit unstable up there imo.
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wasnt there a link yesterday about an asteroid drill in oklahoma city and ft worth?
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Here it is:
Thread: Emergency Readiness: OKC an Fortworth "METEOR STRIKE" Scenario
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Astromut


Question for astromut. Do you sleep? I've noticed you seem able to reply to all threads that are pinned and some that aren't concerning anything to do with space on average within a few hours of posting. Are you one person? Beginning to think there are a few of you manning the astromut profile
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LOL!

He's a genius. He probably can do what Thomas Edison did - live fine on 2-4 hours of sleep. Astro is awesome :)
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JPL Small-Body Database Browser
Note: .... The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances. For accurate long-term ephemerides, please instead use our Horizons system.

Last time you ran JPL orbit program backward your "calculation/prediction" was way off: you: orbit some days - JPL: orbit some years.

Stop the BS of using the orbit diagram for your "predictions".
Even with a condition code of "0" it's accurate for only a short time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995



... Would you say the NASA Close Approach tables are accurate?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Yes.
And you yourself ride on the JPL data.



... And which one was I way off on, ...
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

Thread: Another close 2012 asteroid out of nowhere - Happy Mothers Day!!! (Page 2)
But I was also off - your orbit "calculation" not some days but 16 years - JPL orbit 3.2 years.



... and how did you confirm it?
 Quoting: TheTruthWorker

It confirmed itself by the asteroids flyby.



But let me ask you a question too:
How do you confirm your EQ - asteroid relation?

From 8+, 7+ down to measly 6.2 and by now you take a mischievous pleasure in a 5.something.

Hip, hip, hooray! We got a 5.2 - earthquakes influenced by asteroids confirmed.

Since almost one month no 7+ - and how many asteroids flew by earth during that time?



.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16641995


FORUM QUESTION PLEASE

This:

PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M

SOMETHING TO DO WITH MEXICO EARTHQUAKE FROM 19TH SEP 1985??gasp

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 Quoting: Coyoxautli


Only possible related event on that list was Japan event:

PDE 1983 05 26 025959.60 40.46 139.10 23 7.8

The rest of list was all 7.8+ quakes 1980-1889 to get perceptive on frequency of such events.
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bump
The pins gone.

Before the thread drops to the depths, I'd like to hear what mutt
Says for a ranking? C'mon mut, let loose a little..
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05/25/2012 03:40 PM
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Question for astromut. Do you sleep? I've noticed you seem able to reply to all threads that are pinned and some that aren't concerning anything to do with space on average within a few hours of posting. Are you one person? Beginning to think there are a few of you manning the astromut profile
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LOL!

He's a genius. He probably can do what Thomas Edison did - live fine on 2-4 hours of sleep. Astro is awesome :)
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Lol. Seriously though think about, within an hour or so, if that in some cases a thread about space he's on it like white on rice. I'm suspicious hmmm
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Here's my analysis of its orbit. It'll be here once it's done uploading:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Question for astromut. Do you sleep? I've noticed you seem able to reply to all threads that are pinned and some that aren't concerning anything to do with space on average within a few hours of posting. Are you one person? Beginning to think there are a few of you manning the astromut profile
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LOL!

He's a genius. He probably can do what Thomas Edison did - live fine on 2-4 hours of sleep. Astro is awesome :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Lol. Seriously though think about, within an hour or so, if that in some cases a thread about space he's on it like white on rice. I'm suspicious hmmm
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Na, I you listen to his voice. You can tell. Nerd, in the nice way.
As in Passion.
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Question for astromut. Do you sleep? I've noticed you seem able to reply to all threads that are pinned and some that aren't concerning anything to do with space on average within a few hours of posting. Are you one person? Beginning to think there are a few of you manning the astromut profile
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611732


LOL!

He's a genius. He probably can do what Thomas Edison did - live fine on 2-4 hours of sleep. Astro is awesome :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Lol. Seriously though think about, within an hour or so, if that in some cases a thread about space he's on it like white on rice. I'm suspicious hmmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611732


Na, I you listen to his voice. You can tell. Nerd, in the nice way.
As in Passion.
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Passion to educate? Or passion to....? Don't get me wrong I look to astromut for common sense and agree with 99% of his facts and arguments, however there's that 1% where I think for whatever reason he or they! Lol, are trying just to hard to convince
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LOL!

He's a genius. He probably can do what Thomas Edison did - live fine on 2-4 hours of sleep. Astro is awesome :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Lol. Seriously though think about, within an hour or so, if that in some cases a thread about space he's on it like white on rice. I'm suspicious hmmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611732


Na, I you listen to his voice. You can tell. Nerd, in the nice way.
As in Passion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10830710


Passion to educate? Or passion to....? Don't get me wrong I look to astromut for common sense and agree with 99% of his facts and arguments, however there's that 1% where I think for whatever reason he or they! Lol, are trying just to hard to convince
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I'm just here to spread the truth. And yeah, I do keep odd hours.
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so if we know what time it comming and the trajectory of the asteroid, where is it most likely to be seen?
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Maybe next time.

Thank you...

Come again.


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