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You still live in the Roman Empire and most of you don'e even know it...

 
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"If any question why we died...Tell them, because our fathers lied."
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Sort of an ungodly 'trinity'--
Washington DC -- the military whore.
The City of The fucking London--financial pedo-district.
Vatican --- spiritual boyfuckers.
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Sort of an ungodly 'trinity'--
Washington DC -- the military whore.
The City of The fucking London--financial pedo-district.
Vatican --- spiritual boyfuckers.
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wow.

Siesta time.
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Sort of an ungodly 'trinity'--
Washington DC -- the military whore.
The City of The fucking London--financial pedo-district.
Vatican --- spiritual boyfuckers.
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The Byzantine Empire ceased to exist because it was conquered by the Turks.
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When constantinople fell in 1453, the title of caesar was inherited through marriage to the russian Czars (Ceasars). Moscow then became the new capital of the eastern roman empire. the conflict between east and west, the cold war, wwi and wwii, were all merely poiitcal chess moves by the ruling roman empire against the masses.

You dont have to look any further than the fact that during wwi the rulers of Germany, England, and Russia were all cousins. can it get anymore obvious?
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Everything's gonna be allreich
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Sort of an ungodly 'trinity'--
Washington DC -- the military whore.
The City of The fucking London--financial pedo-district.
Vatican --- spiritual boyfuckers.
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wow.

Siesta time.
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The Byzantine Empire ceased to exist because it was conquered by the Turks.
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When constantinople fell in 1453, the title of caesar was inherited through marriage to the russian Czars (Ceasars). Moscow then became the new capital of the eastern roman empire. the conflict between east and west, the cold war, wwi and wwii, were all merely poiitcal chess moves by the ruling roman empire against the masses.

You dont have to look any further than the fact that during wwi the rulers of Germany, England, and Russia were all cousins. can it get anymore obvious?
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so what if they were cousins? are you saying that they staged WWI at a family reunion? by the way the roman emipre is dead, they don't run shit from the shadow.
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The roman standard unit of weight was a libra (pound) derived from the name of a roman scale.

Rome never fell.
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When the Roman Colonia (Forward military forts) were planted on the outskirts of the empire, it was their duty to colonize and conquer the tribes around them. Those tribes then had to pay "tribute".

Londinium was a Colonia...its now called the city of london.

In 1604 a corporation was formed in england called the Virginia Company. It was granted two charters by the king of england to establish two new Colonia (colonies) in the Americas. The first was Jamestown in the south, the second was Plymouth in the North.

The Plymouth colony later formed an confederation with its neighboring new england colonies and named it THE UNITED COLONIES in 1643.

In 1776 the UNITED COLONIES changed its name to the UNITED STATES.

The North went to war against the south in 1861, and the south was defeated. After the war, in 1871 a new unified constitution was issued. Later a system of tribute was instilled that must be paid by the conquered to Great Britian, the original source of the Virgina companies charter. It is still paid to this very day.
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Good account, brilliant account, and I agree with it for the most part. Do think we are living in the continued Roman Empire, and am enticed by the thought the russki's are the Eastern part - Orthodox churches do look as Eastern Roman Empire as the Vatican does west, for mine. Love the relation of czar and kaiser to caesar, rings true on the surface and am going to wander off and look into the stated etymology for those terms as a counterpoint.

Biggest problem I have with it is you talk about the original Romans like they're the original starting point, but Rome needed Greece, Greece needed Babylon/Mesopotamia, and the history we know tend to know little of regarding the civilisations further east, across modern Afghanistan, Pakistan and India had roles to play, at least in what the empire was to become. Zero, base 10 and astronomy were eventually inherited from the middle east by the Romans, and there's evidence to suggest the dudes in India figured most of that stuff out before the Persians did.

But yeah, damn right we're living in an extension of the Roman Empire. Only this time, mountains aren't going to be enough to keep the middle kingdom out of the fray. Shit gon get real.
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All this is why the Bible doesn't mention America other than in an insult in Isiah. We are not our own empire. We are Rome and it never fell. That much is painfully obvious.
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Dave McGowan thinks so too
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"Ask yourself, what determines the political identity of one state vs. another? well, It's laws of course."

So OP you would agree that the US is still part of the British Empire then? The foundation of US law is based in English common law.

Which therefore brings up a point that England broke away from Rome under Henry VII, to no longer hold the popes rule as absolute.
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The Treaty of Paris, which supposedly ended the American Revolutionary War, was dictated by:

In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.

It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.,

Note that France lent money to the Colonies to fight the British. George III was King of Great Britain AND France. So he paid for a war against himself? Sounds kinda weird, huh? Note he is also the arch-treasurer and Prince Elector of............dun dun DUNN. the Holy Roman Empire.

And then HE dictates the terms of peace at the end of the "war"? Since when does the LOSER of a war get to dictate the terms of his own surrender?

The three wings of the Roman empire are the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington DC. All three are NOT part of the countries they are in, and all three have huge Egyptian obelisks.

It's true, the Empire never fell...
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The three wings of the Roman empire are the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington DC. All three are NOT part of the countries they are in, and all three have huge Egyptian obelisks.
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Where is that in London exactly?
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flip pope caesar and your flying monkeys,lol...wise serpents fly thesevril

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 05/25/2012 04:42 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Good account, brilliant account, and I agree with it for the most part. Do think we are living in the continued Roman Empire, and am enticed by the thought the russki's are the Eastern part - Orthodox churches do look as Eastern Roman Empire as the Vatican does west, for mine. Love the relation of czar and kaiser to caesar, rings true on the surface and am going to wander off and look into the stated etymology for those terms as a counterpoint.

Biggest problem I have with it is you talk about the original Romans like they're the original starting point, but Rome needed Greece, Greece needed Babylon/Mesopotamia, and the history we know tend to know little of regarding the civilisations further east, across modern Afghanistan, Pakistan and India had roles to play, at least in what the empire was to become. Zero, base 10 and astronomy were eventually inherited from the middle east by the Romans, and there's evidence to suggest the dudes in India figured most of that stuff out before the Persians did.

But yeah, damn right we're living in an extension of the Roman Empire. Only this time, mountains aren't going to be enough to keep the middle kingdom out of the fray. Shit gon get real.
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+ 1

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The social unrest, economic gloom and austerity in Europe today mirrors one of the greatest crises in British history, says the historian Michael Wood.
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"the empire never ended"
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...just renamed the Vatican.
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D.C., Rome, City of London.

You could say we are under a trinity now, but I suspect that there is a fourth pinnacle in Asia somewhere.

The word pinnacle is important.

Find the Egyptian obelisk in Asia and you've found the fourth pinnacle.
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05/25/2012 08:21 PM
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Good account, brilliant account, and I agree with it for the most part. Do think we are living in the continued Roman Empire, and am enticed by the thought the russki's are the Eastern part - Orthodox churches do look as Eastern Roman Empire as the Vatican does west, for mine. Love the relation of czar and kaiser to caesar, rings true on the surface and am going to wander off and look into the stated etymology for those terms as a counterpoint.

Biggest problem I have with it is you talk about the original Romans like they're the original starting point, but Rome needed Greece, Greece needed Babylon/Mesopotamia, and the history we know tend to know little of regarding the civilisations further east, across modern Afghanistan, Pakistan and India had roles to play, at least in what the empire was to become. Zero, base 10 and astronomy were eventually inherited from the middle east by the Romans, and there's evidence to suggest the dudes in India figured most of that stuff out before the Persians did.

But yeah, damn right we're living in an extension of the Roman Empire. Only this time, mountains aren't going to be enough to keep the middle kingdom out of the fray. Shit gon get real.
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+ 1

hf
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Egypt.

The American eagle is a symbol for the sun - the winged disk. The priesthood there were keepers of the divine right of the pharaohs...parochial(???)

A fragment of the wisdom of Thoth, the Egyptian patriarch, advised people to use the sun as a symbol that they should always look toward the light and avoid the dark.

The priesthood that he entrusted to guard the ancient wisdom became corrupted and kept the knowledge for themselves.

They devised ways of controlling society and dolling out tiny bits of the true wisdom.

Christianity is a front for the evolved Egyptian religion, that is a front for the only true religion - which is TRUTH and natural law.

The secrets of Thoth's legacy are known by a very few, of whom the Rothschilds are counted. They and their co-conspirators, plan for centuries to control and direct "civilization" to the benefit of the secret order.

ALL "secret" orders you think you know about are just fronts or diversions for the ancient Egyptian priesthood who pile lie on top of mis-direction on top of half-truth upon mindfuck to keep you un-enlightened.
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of course we still live in the roman empire. names all change but civilization doesn't.
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05/25/2012 08:27 PM
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"Ask yourself, what determines the political identity of one state vs. another? well, It's laws of course."

So OP you would agree that the US is still part of the British Empire then? The foundation of US law is based in English common law.

Which therefore brings up a point that England broke away from Rome under Henry VII, to no longer hold the popes rule as absolute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16518370

Henry V111.
And British law is based on Roman, Salic and English Common.
But I have a string suspicion that legally speaking EC is virtually irrelevant in terms of the others.
That breakaway seems to have been part of a pattern by Germanic royal lines to reject the absolute power of the Pope to appoint and control kings.
But again I have a suspicion that legally speaking that doesn't matter much either, on the principle that He who has the gold makes the rules.
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Great summary of history! I would like to know, when did the romans finally conquered the germanic tribes? I mean, back then the romans were stopped at the river rhine by the germanic tribes. And later, there was suddenly the (german) holy roman empire under Charlemagne. What happend inbetween? When did the germanic tribes became citizens of rome?!?
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When they took it over.
The Roman Empire is, strictly speaking, the Romano-German Empire.
Nazism and fascism.
Even if they do clash sometimes.
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Philip K Dick would agree.
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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Great summary of history! I would like to know, when did the romans finally conquered the germanic tribes? I mean, back then the romans were stopped at the river rhine by the germanic tribes. And later, there was suddenly the (german) holy roman empire under Charlemagne. What happend inbetween? When did the germanic tribes became citizens of rome?!?
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When they took it over.
The Roman Empire is, strictly speaking, the Romano-German Empire.
Nazism and fascism.
Even if they do clash sometimes.
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The clash is just a show
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05/25/2012 10:11 PM
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Person comes from the Latin word persona, meaning mask

A mask is used to hide the true self, to protect, conceal, or disguise. Or one could say the face is a mask to hide the self...or maybe to conceal the true form. You can take off a mask, can you take of a self, and have a no-self

Per in Latin, meaning “through, across, over; beyond, by means of”
Sona in Latin, meaning to mean “sound, that which is heard; noise”

ARe you a person, a mask or something else?

Sound is simply a wave, like light, so maybe light could also be interpreted as being heard, meaning sensed(through the senses). You would still be you if you were in another form, wouldn't you?

So person could also be described as the form through which something is sensed(either real or not real). As people personalise many things, including inanimate objects, animate objects, also ideas and concepts can be personalised.

The form through which I sense you is code, or the Word, symbols on a screen, you've communicated through the form(the word), with the way you have 'structured your form'(the mask, the word). I have sensed your form, your person, seems your form is not a person until I sense it, and with the way your form is structured, I now have in-form-ation about you, i've named that in-form the name you have given your form.
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Good account, brilliant account, and I agree with it for the most part. Do think we are living in the continued Roman Empire, and am enticed by the thought the russki's are the Eastern part - Orthodox churches do look as Eastern Roman Empire as the Vatican does west, for mine. Love the relation of czar and kaiser to caesar, rings true on the surface and am going to wander off and look into the stated etymology for those terms as a counterpoint.

Biggest problem I have with it is you talk about the original Romans like they're the original starting point, but Rome needed Greece, Greece needed Babylon/Mesopotamia, and the history we know tend to know little of regarding the civilisations further east, across modern Afghanistan, Pakistan and India had roles to play, at least in what the empire was to become. Zero, base 10 and astronomy were eventually inherited from the middle east by the Romans, and there's evidence to suggest the dudes in India figured most of that stuff out before the Persians did.

But yeah, damn right we're living in an extension of the Roman Empire. Only this time, mountains aren't going to be enough to keep the middle kingdom out of the fray. Shit gon get real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16593380


+ 1

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473602


Egypt.

The American eagle is a symbol for the sun - the winged disk. The priesthood there were keepers of the divine right of the pharaohs...parochial(???)

A fragment of the wisdom of Thoth, the Egyptian patriarch, advised people to use the sun as a symbol that they should always look toward the light and avoid the dark.

The priesthood that he entrusted to guard the ancient wisdom became corrupted and kept the knowledge for themselves.

They devised ways of controlling society and dolling out tiny bits of the true wisdom.

Christianity is a front for the evolved Egyptian religion, that is a front for the only true religion - which is TRUTH and natural law.

The secrets of Thoth's legacy are known by a very few, of whom the Rothschilds are counted. They and their co-conspirators, plan for centuries to control and direct "civilization" to the benefit of the secret order.

ALL "secret" orders you think you know about are just fronts or diversions for the ancient Egyptian priesthood who pile lie on top of mis-direction on top of half-truth upon mindfuck to keep you un-enlightened.
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