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This is all a simulation...nothing is REAL.

 
Anonymous Coward
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Alright Professor,

How best to believe in what you conceive?
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Alright Professor,

How best to believe in what you conceive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410120


You mean conceive what you believe?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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05/27/2012 04:33 AM
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The excitement.
Is it not exciting to read a post about a famous celebrity doing something real naughty? Or about life threatening terror or horror? If a book was written about a beautiful garden with nice vegetables and fruits and happiness it would be a total flop. Introduce a serpent or talking snake and suffering and death into the storyline and it becomes beloved literature forever!
Face it, life is dull and then you die. Unless you are a bank robber or your sister has terminal cancer or the CIA is after you, your everyday reality sucks. Especially if you have an english lawn and have to mow it.
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


Well that's only if you are imprisoned by a limited world view/belife system....

A lucid dream where everything is beutiful and infinitely changing is not boring it is awesome...

Mundane Life is boring - unless you have survival issues involved - yes, becaue people dont know that its a dream that can become infintely pleasant and entertaining far and beyond any sci fi/drama story

just use your imagination
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The reality.
Our everyday waking reality consists of necessary mandated things like eating, drinking, breathing, eliminating and copulating. This activities have been programmed into us from the get-go. Other actions like gardening or killing your next door neighbor with a rusty axe are Elective activities and are all available to you to experience. In a simulation anything is up for grabs. You must remember that some things are frowned upon and you must act accordingly.
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


remember that some things are frowned upon and you must act accordingly. That's because this is a learning Sims and it is the Raw emotions of love and hate mixed with many others that shape are reality and Experiences.
The two emotions that we most use is Love and anger or as some people will say to feel hate.
It is the school of hard knocks. It is well known that if you make it to the next level all of creation shouts for joy.
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05/27/2012 07:38 AM
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1. No two people's perceptions are exactly the same. Agreement can only come from consensus of opinion, which has no formative effect upon reality, but only upon each one's perception of that reality.

2. Absolutes are engendered by one's perceptions of reality. They are perceived to be the absolute(value), because perception of anything beyond can not be seen. This doesn't mean absolutes are real. They may not exist at all.

3. The individual's perception is the reality for that person. It is an illusion of something that is nonetheless real - and vastly larger than we can ever perceive. EG: An ant, lives in an ant's reality, but it is the same reality as ours. A bat perceives a 3D world in sonar, which is illusion, but valid for navigating its reality. Everything is real, but it is illusive to perception.

4. What is imagined can only grow from perceptions and assumptions about the real world. Imagining is not enough to change anything fundamental about reality, but it can change one's perceptions of that reality - which changes one's actions and reactions - which may lead to things that were imagined... good or bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16018139


Okay, so bottom line is that you believe truth is relative, that my truths may contradict your truths, but in the end they're both correct.

I believe that is a lie.

I believe there are absolutes and laws we ought to abide by, and there are serious repercussions for not doing so. And these absolutes and laws go beyond our five senses, beyond what we can perceive.

It is written in our hearts that we are not to murder, or steal or lie. These are absolutes, these are laws. Now if truth is relative and absolutes are based on our perceptions, I could very well believe, in my reality, that it is okay to do heinous things. And also believe that there are no consequences on top of that.

As a result of such a world view, a person can live however they wish. This person will live spiritually blind, living life to serve their flesh, and to die in the end with a list of all the laws this person has broken. And not ever have to give an account to a Creator that created these absolutes and laws in the first place.

So the whole 'truth is relative' thing tells us that we are creators and are not subject to a Creator. That is a lie, and it's not a good idea to continue with such a world view.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


No, I wasn't talking about truth, but it can be seen differently by different people. That doesn't mean we shouldn't live by certain laws and codes which are for the benefit of all.

I have my absolutes, and I agree with not murdering, stealing, lying, etc. I wasn't talking about any of these things specifically and certainly didn't mean to present the nihilistic 'reality' you're seeing.

There are consequences. We are not the creator, except of our own directions in life, according to the conditions of it.

As for the creator, I believe that too, but not how you think of it. Consensus of opinion with your friends may make how you think it's correct, but that's an illusion.

I think.
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Alright Professor,

How best to believe in what you conceive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8410120


"Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it will achieve".

TO CONCEIVE:
I WANT vanilla ice cream. I want it now. OOOh it is SOO good. Cold and creamy and sweet. I want vanilla ice cream.

TO BELIEVE:
I have money. The store is open and I have gas in the tank. I BELIEVE I can be there and back home shortly enjoying that delicious ice cream.

TO ACHIEVE:
I will get in car and go get it right now.

If our hero in his haste is not blindsided in a crash by another desperate seeker of ice cream, he will return home and enjoy his prize.

Capiche?
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No.


Icecream is for pussies.

I mean, I conceive of a massive system which revolutionizes the way businesses do business. I think (Not believe!) I can make it work.

How can I believe I can make it work?
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You cannot and never will. Ever. That's right, never. Ice Cream is for heroes. You will never be a hero so forget it.
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What was the video with the quote? It's been taken down. I've been looking for this bad boy.
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logical proof that everything is real

[link to www.xanderism.com]
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Why does every person's worldly philosophical opinions contradict others?

Are there no absolutes?

How can you be so sure that everything is an illusion?

Do you imagine it so, therefore it is? I wouldn't want to hang the destiny of my soul on that idea.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


absolute reality when perceived by human senses;
filtered by our instinctual animal fear,
becomes two worlds at once.
the one real and the one inside your head.

instead of struggling
stuck in your own delusion,
seek truth
as a way out of the illusion.
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Close your eyes, now.
Block your ears, now.
Do not touch or smell or taste, now.

What exists for you, now.

NO THING. Nothing.

This is all a construct. It is a complete unreality. Sure, if you wanna connect with imput from without, you can. The imput does not exist, either and is only a group think from other minds. Be assured that this is not real. None of it. Chemtrails, nuclear disasters, flesh eating organisms, space aliens and on and on. Simply a construct to Attract your Attention.
Easy to prove to yourself if you wish. Go into a sensory deprivation tank with no imput. Or perhaps a quiet deep cave or cavern and meditate on nothingness. You will soon get the point.
"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream," Edgar A Poe
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


Correct
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Close your eyes, now.
Block your ears, now.
Do not touch or smell or taste, now.

What exists for you, now.

NO THING. Nothing.

This is all a construct. It is a complete unreality. Sure, if you wanna connect with imput from without, you can. The imput does not exist, either and is only a group think from other minds. Be assured that this is not real. None of it. Chemtrails, nuclear disasters, flesh eating organisms, space aliens and on and on. Simply a construct to Attract your Attention.
Easy to prove to yourself if you wish. Go into a sensory deprivation tank with no imput. Or perhaps a quiet deep cave or cavern and meditate on nothingness. You will soon get the point.
"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream," Edgar A Poe
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


The concept of nothing cannot be grasped, so it is an empty statement. What we can grasp as being something, is as near we can truly grasp as nothing.

Sort of like "God" I suppose.
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Close your eyes, now.
Block your ears, now.
Do not touch or smell or taste, now.

What exists for you, now.

NO THING. Nothing.

This is all a construct. It is a complete unreality. Sure, if you wanna connect with imput from without, you can. The imput does not exist, either and is only a group think from other minds. Be assured that this is not real. None of it. Chemtrails, nuclear disasters, flesh eating organisms, space aliens and on and on. Simply a construct to Attract your Attention.
Easy to prove to yourself if you wish. Go into a sensory deprivation tank with no imput. Or perhaps a quiet deep cave or cavern and meditate on nothingness. You will soon get the point.
"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream," Edgar A Poe
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


The concept of nothing cannot be grasped, so it is an empty statement. What we can grasp as being something, is as near we can truly grasp as nothing.

Sort of like "God" I suppose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27836497


anytime someone says nothing is real...stab them viciously in the eye with a knife, and as they lay there screaming, ask them, "Is that pain real?"

Maybe then... they will get it
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Close your eyes, now.
Block your ears, now.
Do not touch or smell or taste, now.

What exists for you, now.

NO THING. Nothing.

This is all a construct. It is a complete unreality. Sure, if you wanna connect with imput from without, you can. The imput does not exist, either and is only a group think from other minds. Be assured that this is not real. None of it. Chemtrails, nuclear disasters, flesh eating organisms, space aliens and on and on. Simply a construct to Attract your Attention.
Easy to prove to yourself if you wish. Go into a sensory deprivation tank with no imput. Or perhaps a quiet deep cave or cavern and meditate on nothingness. You will soon get the point.
"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream," Edgar A Poe
 Quoting: The Professor 16090108


The concept of nothing cannot be grasped, so it is an empty statement. What we can grasp as being something, is as near we can truly grasp as nothing.

Sort of like "God" I suppose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27836497


anytime someone says nothing is real...stab them viciously in the eye with a knife, and as they lay there screaming, ask them, "Is that pain real?"

Maybe then... they will get it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

stabbing wound pain is real.
the pain experienced
worrying about being vicously stabbed in the eye
is not real.

the pain deciphered from
intense fear of loss we call anxiety,
is of what is not real yet,
and most of the time never becomes real.

the very idea for a human
to be nothing.
can, if contemplated on,
cause severe distress.

hf

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