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Hell is a fairy tale

 
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What next, Satan and his fallen angels aren't real either? Might as well throw your Bible away and become an apostate if you're going to believe that God won't punish sinners.
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That is a ridiculous non-sequitur. Just because there is widespread misunderstand regarding hell in the scriptures does not mean there is no punishment for the wicked.
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satans greatest trick is to convince people that God doesn't exist.
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Satan's greatest trick is in deceiving the world that he (Satan) does not exist.
 Quoting: Truth in Scripture


God's greatest trick is convincing the world that he actually exist's.
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WOW, two false doctrines at work, first, denial of the underworld, second; the idea that we are all reconciled in the end, when the scriptures are clear that "the second death, is the same judgment of being cast into the Lake of fire with the Devil and his angels. The only one mis-interpreting scriptures, is you.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Death will be defeated. It says so even in the mistranslated english bible. Why are you so confident in your understanding? Do you agree or not that the english bible has been mistranslated?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Why conclude that the bible was mistranslated instead of misunderstood as words change through time perhaps we are not interpreting correctly.

Perhaps the hell refers to returning to earth to learn lessons that people failed to learn the first time and life really is the ultimate school of hard knocks.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Because hell was translated from several different words in the original languages. The words don't have even a remotely similar meaning..thus a false doctrine was created through the latin and then english bible.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Thus, you do not believe it is an interpretation problem and leap straight to false doctrine instead and I suppose free will and listening to your heart has no place in interpretation.
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WOW, two false doctrines at work, first, denial of the underworld, second; the idea that we are all reconciled in the end, when the scriptures are clear that "the second death, is the same judgment of being cast into the Lake of fire with the Devil and his angels. The only one mis-interpreting scriptures, is you.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Death will be defeated. It says so even in the mistranslated english bible. Why are you so confident in your understanding? Do you agree or not that the english bible has been mistranslated?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Why conclude that the bible was mistranslated instead of misunderstood as words change through time perhaps we are not interpreting correctly.

Perhaps the hell refers to returning to earth to learn lessons that people failed to learn the first time and life really is the ultimate school of hard knocks.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot




It's a hard knock life for Carters.
 Quoting: AGC


I do not understand what you are trying to say through a video and cryptic messages thus can you use your own words instead of posting a video, as I would prefer to interact with your thoughts.
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Death will be defeated. It says so even in the mistranslated english bible. Why are you so confident in your understanding? Do you agree or not that the english bible has been mistranslated?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Why conclude that the bible was mistranslated instead of misunderstood as words change through time perhaps we are not interpreting correctly.

Perhaps the hell refers to returning to earth to learn lessons that people failed to learn the first time and life really is the ultimate school of hard knocks.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Because hell was translated from several different words in the original languages. The words don't have even a remotely similar meaning..thus a false doctrine was created through the latin and then english bible.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Thus, you do not believe it is an interpretation problem and leap straight to false doctrine instead and I suppose free will and listening to your heart has no place in interpretation.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Wrong. Misinterpretation lead to false doctrine. Simple.
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


you calling Jesus Christ a liar?????????????
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


you calling Jesus Christ a liar?????????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


you a dumbass?
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


you calling Jesus Christ a liar?????????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


you a dumbass?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


your a lost soul.you potend to know more the the Lord of Glory?

You are your ilk have been duped by the new age.You call
yourself "christians" you wouldn't know God if you walked into
him on the street. Jesus' own words testify against you and your kind.
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Right, and the new testament?
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


you calling Jesus Christ a liar?????????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


you a dumbass?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


your a lost soul.you potend to know more the the Lord of Glory?

You are your ilk have been duped by the new age.You call
yourself "christians" you wouldn't know God if you walked into
him on the street. Jesus' own words testify against you and your kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


The bible speaks of a new age. Why are you agaisnt a new age?
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Why conclude that the bible was mistranslated instead of misunderstood as words change through time perhaps we are not interpreting correctly.

Perhaps the hell refers to returning to earth to learn lessons that people failed to learn the first time and life really is the ultimate school of hard knocks.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Because hell was translated from several different words in the original languages. The words don't have even a remotely similar meaning..thus a false doctrine was created through the latin and then english bible.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Thus, you do not believe it is an interpretation problem and leap straight to false doctrine instead and I suppose free will and listening to your heart has no place in interpretation.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Wrong. Misinterpretation lead to false doctrine. Simple.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22



Your mind is stuck in false doctrine thus negating free concerning free will and in my opinion, your belief is too rigid and set in your mind. If we watched the same movie, would we gravitate to the same conclusion on all components and meanings within the movie I think not?

Life experiences guide us to a particular conclusion and revisiting the movie years later might open our eyes to things previously unseen.
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Because hell was translated from several different words in the original languages. The words don't have even a remotely similar meaning..thus a false doctrine was created through the latin and then english bible.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Thus, you do not believe it is an interpretation problem and leap straight to false doctrine instead and I suppose free will and listening to your heart has no place in interpretation.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Wrong. Misinterpretation lead to false doctrine. Simple.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22



Your mind is stuck in false doctrine thus negating free concerning free will and in my opinion, your belief is too rigid and set in your mind. If we watched the same movie, would we gravitate to the same conclusion on all components and meanings within the movie I think not?

Life experiences guide us to a particular conclusion and revisiting the movie years later might open our eyes to things previously unseen.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Talk about cryptic....
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Right, and the new testament?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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The lies have gone on long enough and the people are finally awaking. Christians open your eyes to the lie that is hell. Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve. If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways. The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Right, and the new testament?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So then the glorious good news is that some will live and most will die? Got it.
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you calling Jesus Christ a liar?????????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


you a dumbass?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


your a lost soul.you potend to know more the the Lord of Glory?

You are your ilk have been duped by the new age.You call
yourself "christians" you wouldn't know God if you walked into
him on the street. Jesus' own words testify against you and your kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


The bible speaks of a new age. Why are you agaisnt a new age?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


I tell you the truth if you take your last breath tonight
you will lift up your eyes in that place you say does not exist and the Lord of glory will remind you of this very
night when you mocked his word.Repent while you have
breath. You have no idea of what you dealing with.
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Several different words are mistranslated in the english bible to hell to decieve.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22

That is not true... the KJV translations are not there to deceive. However, there have been both foolish misinterpretation and intentional false teaching about hell.

If you don't believe in the bible, then I understand why, because it has been mistranslated in many different ways.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22

The New Age Bibles have many intentional mistranslations, for the very real intent to deceive and promote false doctrines.

That is why those who wish to have deeper understanding of the Truth use the King James 1611 and a Concordance to investigate the original Hebrew, Greek , and Aramaic.

The truth is that all are part of the creator and all will be reconciled in the end.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22

Not at all true. We are all dead in sin and only the Savior Jesus Christ can reconcile us with the Father.
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you a dumbass?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


your a lost soul.you potend to know more the the Lord of Glory?

You are your ilk have been duped by the new age.You call
yourself "christians" you wouldn't know God if you walked into
him on the street. Jesus' own words testify against you and your kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


The bible speaks of a new age. Why are you agaisnt a new age?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


I tell you the truth if you take your last breath tonight
you will lift up your eyes in that place you say does not exist and the Lord of glory will remind you of this very
night when you mocked his word.Repent while you have
breath. You have no idea of what you dealing with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


You are a dumbass. Thanks for clarifying
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Didn't Jesus go to the "underworld" after He was crucified to bring the good news to those there before he rose back up to earth then ultimately into Heaven?
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There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Right, and the new testament?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So then the glorious good news is that some will live and most will die? Got it.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


An eternal hell would make God unjust but according to the bible hell did not preexist and was never created. From beginning to end the bible is silent about either the preexistence or creation of hell. The Greek word hades does not mean hell. As with sheol everyone went to hades when they died both words clearly mean the grave. What does all this mean? If you believe in a loving just God you might conclude that hell has always been either an error of translation or an outright human fabrication. Why would human beings invent hell? Ancient greek philosophers like celsus pointed out hell was a good way to control the unwashed masses. Hell was also a handy way to increase church attendance and revenues.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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There is no mention of "hell" or any possibility of suffering after death anywhere in the Hebrew Bible or OT.
The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means the grave not hell. This can easily be confirmed because if Sheol is translated as hell the Christian dogma of hell as an inescapable place of suffering where God is absent is immediately refuted. This is true because: 1)King David said that if he made his bed in Sheol, God would be there with him 2)Job asked to be hidden from suffering in Sheol 3)the sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol and 4)the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved and yet Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in hell? In each case Sheol clearly means the grave and cannot be interpreted as hell unless hell is heaven.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


Right, and the new testament?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So then the glorious good news is that some will live and most will die? Got it.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22

I sense sarcasm in your post, but this is actually the Truth.

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

[Matthew 7:13-14]

Few will find the way to reconciliation and eternal life (Jesus is that way), and many will follow the wide path that leads to death and destruction.

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Right, and the new testament?
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


So then the glorious good news is that some will live and most will die? Got it.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


An eternal hell would make God unjust but according to the bible hell did not preexist and was never created. From beginning to end the bible is silent about either the preexistence or creation of hell. The Greek word hades does not mean hell. As with sheol everyone went to hades when they died both words clearly mean the grave. What does all this mean? If you believe in a loving just God you might conclude that hell has always been either an error of translation or an outright human fabrication. Why would human beings invent hell? Ancient greek philosophers like celsus pointed out hell was a good way to control the unwashed masses. Hell was also a handy way to increase church attendance and revenues.
 Quoting: KlLLUMINATI


As is the threat of death....hmmm
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Thus, you do not believe it is an interpretation problem and leap straight to false doctrine instead and I suppose free will and listening to your heart has no place in interpretation.
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Wrong. Misinterpretation lead to false doctrine. Simple.
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Your mind is stuck in false doctrine thus negating free concerning free will and in my opinion, your belief is too rigid and set in your mind. If we watched the same movie, would we gravitate to the same conclusion on all components and meanings within the movie I think not?

Life experiences guide us to a particular conclusion and revisiting the movie years later might open our eyes to things previously unseen.
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Talk about cryptic....
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What do you fail to understand.
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Agreed!
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Wrong. Misinterpretation lead to false doctrine. Simple.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22



Your mind is stuck in false doctrine thus negating free concerning free will and in my opinion, your belief is too rigid and set in your mind. If we watched the same movie, would we gravitate to the same conclusion on all components and meanings within the movie I think not?

Life experiences guide us to a particular conclusion and revisiting the movie years later might open our eyes to things previously unseen.
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Talk about cryptic....
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What do you fail to understand.
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I haven't understood a single word you've said. Just say what you want to say instead of dancing around it.
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The whole thing that hell doesn't exist or hell is just temporary, these kind of ideas are the result of the modern Bible perversions; it's what they teach.

There's over a 100 different translations, which one is right? I thought the Bible said that God is not the author of confusion?

This is why I stick to one version, the King James, which is from a totally different line that came from the Textus Receptus, as opposed to the other perversions that came up from Alexandria, Egypt through the Catholic manuscripts known as the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus through the revised version of 1881.
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

The true Gospel: Believe.
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The whole thing that hell doesn't exist or hell is just temporary, these kind of ideas are the result of the modern Bible perversions; it's what they teach.

There's over a 100 different translations, which one is right? I thought the Bible said that God is not the author of confusion?

This is why I stick to one version, the King James, which is from a totally different line that came from the Textus Receptus, as opposed to the other perversions that came up from Alexandria, Egypt through the Catholic manuscripts known as the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus through the revised version of 1881.
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The king james is far from a pure translation. Hell is in the king james and thaa is the topic. btw, I prefer the king james
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WOW, two false doctrines at work, first, denial of the underworld, second; the idea that we are all reconciled in the end, when the scriptures are clear that "the second death, is the same judgment of being cast into the Lake of fire with the Devil and his angels. The only one mis-interpreting scriptures, is you.
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Winger, the church fathers of the first century widely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone. Only when Rome came to power and paganized everything did that view magically become "heresy" by ambitious clergy who were smitten with the idea of eternal damnation. This is what precipitated the dark ages, as church hierarchy became exactly like their monstrous "god".

Centuries later, it's still the biggest idol in the house, and hardcore zealots fight tooth & nail to *defend* the notion that the Redeemer will fail colossally in the end.
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The king james is far from a pure translation. Hell is in the king james and thaa is the topic. btw, I prefer the king james
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I disagree. The King James is a perfect translation, have you ever watched the King James Code series by Mike Hoggard? The Bible comes alive when you count certain words and the Biblical significance behind numbers. I'm just saying it has the signature of God written all over it.

If it isn't a perfect translation, then what is? Was God somehow not able to bring the modern world a perfect Bible? Did God somehow not foresee that there will be an international language called English?
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

The true Gospel: Believe.
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But there is no mention of the creation or purpose of hell in the NT or any verse in the entire bible that ever announced that the penalty for sin changed from death to hell. Why would God clearly announce the penalty of death before it was enacted but never once mention the far more serious penalty of hell before it was enacted? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A loving just God could not create an eternal hell and fail to immediately warn the whole world about it. But obviously the whole world was not warned about the creation of hell. Indians knew absolutely nothing about hell before 1492. Billions of people have lived and died never having heard anything about hell or Christ. Would anyone who had never read the Bible consider God to be just if he died and woke up in hell? Of course not.
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So then the glorious good news is that some will live and most will die? Got it.
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An eternal hell would make God unjust but according to the bible hell did not preexist and was never created. From beginning to end the bible is silent about either the preexistence or creation of hell. The Greek word hades does not mean hell. As with sheol everyone went to hades when they died both words clearly mean the grave. What does all this mean? If you believe in a loving just God you might conclude that hell has always been either an error of translation or an outright human fabrication. Why would human beings invent hell? Ancient greek philosophers like celsus pointed out hell was a good way to control the unwashed masses. Hell was also a handy way to increase church attendance and revenues.
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As is the threat of death....hmmm
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To bring people to church like I said.
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
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I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
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Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
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I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
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