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Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article

 
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"was"underestimated?

How about IS and WILL CONTINUE TO BE...?????
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If I remember correctly, let's all remember, the US Navy pulled out within 24 hours. US Navy knew.
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when this happened .. I talked to my friend from the Ukraine to get her opinion, her family came here after the Chenobyl accident when she was a baby ..

Not only did she tell me her family said that Chernobyl was nothing compared to this ..

She told me, her husbands Oncologist in NYC put her husband on iodine pills .. he has lymphoma and the small fallout here could seriously effect his health ..

Here on the east coast of the US .. I couldn't find pills and we used swabs of iodine on our chests for about a month .. everyone thought I was paranoid .. glad I didn't underestimate it ..
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nah, they probz knew that this could really help to destroy the world. can't panic people, you know? gotta tell them slowly..
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Re: Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article
That doesn't sound good:

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16693947


AND the NY Slimes prints this drivel.........grnrolleyes


"More than 99 percent of the radiation released by the accident came in the first three weeks, the utility company added."

[link to www.nytimes.com]


bsmetar
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bump for reality.
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Heads must roll....
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1rof1 Sorry not laughing at this thread which is very serious. I am laughing at Vlad the impaler saying heads must roll. peace
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Only he can save us now. I imagine him showing up outside the TEPCO HQ, a pike in one hand and lube in the other:


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That doesn't sound good:

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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D U H

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Just found out?
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Well, cut him a break. Canadians are not getting the truth from their agencies, either. HealthCanada stopped monitoring the radiation accurately early on in the crisis.

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The REASON why they stopped monitoring and reporting after the fukushima incident is that they know there is no issue, and that everything is AOK, so no need to do the extra work and monitoring, just to prove it's fine.
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You haven't been paying attention.

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That doesn't sound good:

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16693947


They knew about this since it happened...

Why is this such a surprise...

Get real!
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Re: Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article
Radiating Americans: Fukushima rain, Clinton's secret food pact

Government agreed to downplay Fukushima radiation

Fukushima is far from stabilized according to energy advisor veteran with 39 years of nuclear power engineering experience, Arnie Gundersen who told Solar IMG Saturday that Americans, not just in the northwest, are unaware of being rained on with Fukushima nuclear hot particles and eating Fukushima contaminated food because the US government has deliberately minimized the catastrophe, partially due to a pact Secretary of State Hillary Clinton signed with Japan. Gundersen, with a team of other scientists, intends to prove government statements about Fukushima are false.

-I still believe water is leaking into the ocean and I know water's leaking into the ground table," he said.

Gundersen said it is a concern that there are indications that there is still iodine on site plus, 'enormous amounts of iodine have been in the water."

"There's an awful lot of kids that are going to have thyroid problems in the next three to five years as the result of this."


-He listed his major concerns related to Fukushima impact in the United States: Unit 4; radioactive beef, soil and rain; burning contaminated materials; and raising dose amounts.

-The radioactive contaminated material being burned in one prefecture in Japan goes into the neighboring prefecture and contaminates it.

"It eventually ends up into the Pacific Northwest, either into B.C., Oregon, Washington or California. The process of burning the radioactive material means they're kicking the can down the road."

Gundersen furthered, "The accident isn't over. It's continually throwing back up the cesium which is already on the ground and into plants."

-In British Columbia a few weeks ago, "Geiger counters were going off the scale" according to Gundersen who added that the "only conclusion you could come to was industrial burning in Japan."

Brian Rich stated about Gundersen and his wife, Maggie, "Meeting Arnold Gundersen and his wife Maggie only opened my eyes to the dangers our country and civilization face because of decisions made decades ago and the lies created to further the nuclear agenda."

[link to www.examiner.com]
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Just found out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15146129


Well, cut him a break. Canadians are not getting the truth from their agencies, either. HealthCanada stopped monitoring the radiation accurately early on in the crisis.

~
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The REASON why they stopped monitoring and reporting after the fukushima incident is that they know there is no issue, and that everything is AOK, so no need to do the extra work and monitoring, just to prove it's fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471236



I don't know why I keep trying.. getting wearisome.

The top post is from nov. 2011. Take it or leave it, dude.
I could spend an hour or two searching my thread for more info, but I'm not interested in doing that.

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no kidding?
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If I remember correctly, let's all remember, the US Navy pulled out within 24 hours. US Navy knew.
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They were detecting huge spikes 200 miles out at sea after they left. I have the info on my thread.

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@ Waterbug,

with only A. Gundersen as a Fundament
your Argument is not very stable!

I am sure that nearly every University in Canada
done Checkings of the Radiation Levels
and i really think that we has seen Reports
from them in the case that they are dangerously High,
i still trust them and i doubt that every single source
of Information is a part of the big Conspiracy!
G.Y.!B.E.
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@ Waterbug,

with only A. Gundersen as a Fundament
your Argument is not very stable!

I am sure that nearly every University in Canada
done Checkings of the Radiation Levels
and i really think that we has seen Reports
from them in the case that they are dangerously High,
i still trust them and i doubt that every single source
of Information is a part of the big Conspiracy!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy


Everyone knows you are a TEPCO / JAP government shill.....just give it up you idiot.


shill
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@ Waterbug,

with only A. Gundersen as a Fundament
your Argument is not very stable!

I am sure that nearly every University in Canada
done Checkings of the Radiation Levels
and i really think that we has seen Reports
from them in the case that they are dangerously High,
i still trust them and i doubt that every single source
of Information is a part of the big Conspiracy!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy


Everyone knows you are a TEPCO / JAP government shill.....just give it up you idiot.


shill
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Look, your Postings are for 98,5 Bs.
but i will not tell you to go,
you need Attention and you need to Learn
because you are still uneducated and stupid
like a Pig in front of the Slaughterhouse!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Re: Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article
@ Waterbug,

with only A. Gundersen as a Fundament
your Argument is not very stable!

I am sure that nearly every University in Canada
done Checkings of the Radiation Levels
and i really think that we has seen Reports
from them in the case that they are dangerously High,
i still trust them and i doubt that every single source
of Information is a part of the big Conspiracy!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy


I stated that I was not interested in searching my thread for more. I do have a life and don't get paid to provide info to anybody..
So you ignore that and jump on the gundersen thang.
I am not obliged to prove anything to anybody.

As far as Canada goes... I'm pretty sure I know a hell of a lot more about it than you do. I have about one hundred relatives up there including 40 or so cousins...

Why don't you disprove something with concrete proof, dude?
That is your mission, isn't it? To disprove...

chuckle

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@ Waterbug,

with only A. Gundersen as a Fundament
your Argument is not very stable!

I am sure that nearly every University in Canada
done Checkings of the Radiation Levels
and i really think that we has seen Reports
from them in the case that they are dangerously High,
i still trust them and i doubt that every single source
of Information is a part of the big Conspiracy!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy


Everyone knows you are a TEPCO / JAP government shill.....just give it up you idiot.


shill
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Look, your Postings are for 98,5 Bs.
but i will not tell you to go,
you need Attention and you need to Learn
because you are still uneducated and stupid
like a Pig in front of the Slaughterhouse!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy

the legendary Atom-Boy

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@ Buggy-Chan, Mission no have,
i just want that the Arguments are Water-Proof
because our Chain of Arguments should not
used unproofed things, in the next big Discussion
about Pro- and Contra Nuclear Energy we cant
make any Mistakes,
the Anti-Nuclear Movement failed once after
Chernobyl and now is our last Chance to
change the Direction,
we will mis this with People like Arnie,
he is a Wolf in Sheeps Fur!
G.Y.!B.E.
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I am SHOCKED!!

SHOCKED I tell you!!

Can you believe it? A government agency and a large utility NOT wanting to find out bad news that they would have to disclose so they INTENTIONALLY avoid learning about it?

SHOCKING!!

Of course this would NEVER happen in the US/ Canada/ Europe.... Those governments and their leaders would NEVER hide the truth from their citizens!! They are ALWAYS forthright honest and believe in full disclosure!

pigchef
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Pearl Harbor
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He is right though. You couldn't cover up the independent measurements of hundreds of universities around the world. Yeah, that's really how many would be taking radiation samples at any given time.. one of them would have most certainly sounded the alarm bells by now. Having said that.. God knows what the situation is like in Japan itself. If Tepco are lying there, I'm sure the government could cover up some readings for sure locally. I don't think we've exposed very much at all here in NA though..
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Just found out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15146129


Well, cut him a break. Canadians are not getting the truth from their agencies, either. HealthCanada stopped monitoring the radiation accurately early on in the crisis.

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


The REASON why they stopped monitoring and reporting after the fukushima incident is that they know there is no issue, and that everything is AOK, so no need to do the extra work and monitoring, just to prove it's fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471236


You haven't been paying attention.

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I agree. Canadians are lied to by their government as much as the Americans are lied to by their government.
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...


Well, cut him a break. Canadians are not getting the truth from their agencies, either. HealthCanada stopped monitoring the radiation accurately early on in the crisis.

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


The REASON why they stopped monitoring and reporting after the fukushima incident is that they know there is no issue, and that everything is AOK, so no need to do the extra work and monitoring, just to prove it's fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471236


You haven't been paying attention.

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I agree. Canadians are lied to by their government as much as the Americans are lied to by their government.
 Quoting: FroboJoe


But our humour is more subtle
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@ Buggy-Chan, Mission no have,
i just want that the Arguments are Water-Proof
because our Chain of Arguments should not
used unproofed things, in the next big Discussion
about Pro- and Contra Nuclear Energy we cant
make any Mistakes,
the Anti-Nuclear Movement failed once after
Chernobyl and now is our last Chance to
change the Direction,
we will mis this with People like Arnie,
he is a Wolf in Sheeps Fur!
 Quoting: the legendary Atom-Boy


Sheep have wool, not fur. It's 'wolf in sheep's clothing' in case you're interested in the correct wording.

Gundersen is not my only source of info. Merely a part of the puzzle. You know this. If the weight of public will tips the scale towards the abolition of nuclear power, I doubt that any one person's opinion will matter all that much.

I believe the 'Fiasco at Fuku' [my nomenclature] will eventually lead to the closing of all of the old nuclear plants.
And may prevent new ones from being built.

The facts will come out. They have been coming out in trickles since the first days. I have been paying attention.

yoda

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Re: Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article
He is right though. You couldn't cover up the independent measurements of hundreds of universities around the world. Yeah, that's really how many would be taking radiation samples at any given time.. one of them would have most certainly sounded the alarm bells by now. Having said that.. God knows what the situation is like in Japan itself. If Tepco are lying there, I'm sure the government could cover up some readings for sure locally. I don't think we've exposed very much at all here in NA though..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9693842


Most institutions of higher learning are funded how? Regulated by whom? Controlled by what?
If you really want to find truth you must consider the outward or hidden motivation of the entity you study.

The tiniest diameters of spider web can span relatively long distances.

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Re: Radioactive release at Fukushima was underestimated - NY Times article
He is right though. You couldn't cover up the independent measurements of hundreds of universities around the world. Yeah, that's really how many would be taking radiation samples at any given time.. one of them would have most certainly sounded the alarm bells by now. Having said that.. God knows what the situation is like in Japan itself. If Tepco are lying there, I'm sure the government could cover up some readings for sure locally. I don't think we've exposed very much at all here in NA though..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9693842


Most institutions of higher learning are funded how? Regulated by whom? Controlled by what?
If you really want to find truth you must consider the outward or hidden motivation of the entity you study.

The tiniest diameters of spider web can span relatively long distances.

~
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Good questions. Follow the money. Certainly in the States, there's no such thing as totally independent 'research,' being done on this crisis, in universities or anywhere else.
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He is right though. You couldn't cover up the independent measurements of hundreds of universities around the world. Yeah, that's really how many would be taking radiation samples at any given time.. one of them would have most certainly sounded the alarm bells by now. Having said that.. God knows what the situation is like in Japan itself. If Tepco are lying there, I'm sure the government could cover up some readings for sure locally. I don't think we've exposed very much at all here in NA though..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9693842


Most institutions of higher learning are funded how? Regulated by whom? Controlled by what?
If you really want to find truth you must consider the outward or hidden motivation of the entity you study.

The tiniest diameters of spider web can span relatively long distances.

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hf
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That doesn't sound good:

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16693947

Total lies. It was never "underestimated by the Government. If it were then a lot of heads should be rolling right now because they get paid big money to keep an eye on this crap.

No they figured out there was not much they could do and so as to not alarm the cattle to just pretend everything was OK. We will soon learn that this could very well be an extinction level event. At a very minimum millions are going to die and millions are going to get very sick.
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"was"underestimated?

How about IS and WILL CONTINUE TO BE...?????
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well said.. but its not only that - Fukushima is distraction.. while we think we are solving something - bigger things are ON going right now, every NOW, everyday...
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