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Are You Saved? UPDATED

 
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I have become unpinned in less than an hour...

I guess a moderator 'on duty' did this....

WOW!

I used my 10 karma points to pin this....

why did I start this thread?

because in the middle of the night I was given the words to do this from the LORD HIMSELF.

This was not something I did on my on accord today...it was not my idea....it was HIS.



"No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me," Says the LORD."


Isaiah 54:17

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Leviticus 19:17
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16678227


no hate here....

just forgiveness and prayers of blessings of salvation to be poured out on all who visit this thread!!!

hf
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Neither here . God bless you . hf
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Now is the acceptable time. Now is the day of salvation. Today you can be baptized into Christ. You can be born again of water and the Spirit (John 3:3-6)

We live our lives one day at a time. Yesterday is gone.
Tomorrow never comes.
Today is the only day we have, to be saved by the grace of God.

"Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Corinthians 6:2)

:SVD:
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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How would you conceptualize what you are 'saved' from and how exactly were you 'saved'?

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 05/26/2012 05:43 PM

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved"

Romans 10:9

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Ok AG, you are stirring the pot!!!

You know what is coming your way...
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"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved"

Romans 10:9

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Ok AG, you are stirring the pot!!!

You know what is coming your way...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16310500


huh?
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"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"

Joel 2:32



angel3
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It doesn't work that way and never did. Your actions matter and no Lord will save you from the effects of your actions. What you sow in this life you will reap in the afterlife. It does no good to exhort people to call on the name of a savior, because when you get to the afterlife, only your actions will matter, not the words you said.
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"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved"

Romans 10:9

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Ok AG, you are stirring the pot!!!

You know what is coming your way...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16310500


huh?
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Bashing dear, bashing...

Not from me though - just hope you are strapped into a chair...
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Nope. Not into servitude, even with all the window dressings...

"Saved" is but a euphemism for another sort of slavery..
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How would you conceptualize what you are 'saved' from and how exactly were you 'saved'?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


"Saved" from the penalty of my sins.
The penalty is spiritual separation from God now, and in eternity, also the penalty is physical death which the human race now experiences. Physical death is conquered for us christians when Jesus resurrected. We are promised physical resurrection too.

Read ICorinthians 15:26-58

vs.15-55

Behold,I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep(die), but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump(God's last trump,not to be confused w/angels trumps in Rev.): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible(our bodies) must put on incorruption(physical immortality), and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

vs.57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

morganite
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How would you conceptualize what you are 'saved' from and how exactly were you 'saved'?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


"Saved" from the penalty of my sins.
The penalty is spiritual separation from God now, and in eternity, also the penalty is physical death which the human race now experiences. Physical death is conquered for us christians when Jesus resurrected. We are promised physical resurrection too.

Read ICorinthians 15:26-58

vs.15-55

Behold,I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep(die), but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump(God's last trump,not to be confused w/angels trumps in Rev.): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible(our bodies) must put on incorruption(physical immortality), and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

vs.57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

 Quoting: Morganite


Who saved you?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"

Joel 2:32



angel3
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Lord if I kill someone and call your name afterward will I be saved?

Thanks a bunch.
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"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"

Joel 2:32



angel3
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Im washed in the blood , and I know my sins are forgiven Now if I can just forgive myself
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No man chooses to be saved. Those who are to be saved were predestinated .... ordained to believe and obtain eternal life from the foundations of the world and .....

these are filthy -hell deserving with NOTHING good in them at all- nothing redeeming about them... these are just sinners plucked like brands from the burning and made monuments to His love and mercy ... but they will be cleansed. The lepers are healed. The lame begin to walk. The blind still come to see..

What manner of love is this that God showed by pouring out his blood for the elect at Calvary!

Isa_48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
No, none ever chooses to be saved.

Nobody CAN make that decision to come to Christ.. not ever. The dead cannot come to life by themself.


Mat_20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Mat_22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mar_13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Luk_10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Luk_23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
Joh_6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Joh_13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Act_1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act_1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Act_10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.


Act_22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Rom_16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
1Co_1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co_1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
2Co_8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2Th_2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Ti_2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Jas_2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Rev_17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
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none of yer fuckin business
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"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"

Joel 2:32



angel3
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Im washed in the blood , and I know my sins are forgiven Now if I can just forgive myself
 Quoting: WacoKid


believe that your sins are forgiven....it takes an act of faith!

don't let the 'accuser of the brethern' tell you lies that you are not forgiven.....don't listen to him.....

here are some great verses about our testimony by which we apply the blood of JESUS to our lives.....

read and say them aloud and they will help you forgive yourself!

Eph. 1:7
1 John 1:7
Romans 5:9
Hebrews 13:12
1 Corinthians 6:19-20



"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all [fn] sin.

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives."

1 John 1:7-10
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So it's called atheistlikeproductions?
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No, but it's Godlike, not Jesus-like. Get it?
Stop with the Jesus stuff. God is over ALL religions, not just the Jesus religion.
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At least Muslims have the decency to use a separate name for their own god - Allah.
Why can't Christians call their Jesus god something besides God, so the rest of us can still call God God, without the Jesus worshippers thinking we're talking about their god.
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Once4All are you jesus?
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Who saved you?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


God the Father by the work of his Son, Jesus via the Holy Spirit convicting me of my need.
morganite
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Once4All are you jesus?
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no, he is a servant of JESUS and the MOST HIGH GOD
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At least Muslims have the decency to use a separate name for their own god - Allah.
Why can't Christians call their Jesus god something besides God, so the rest of us can still call God God, without the Jesus worshippers thinking we're talking about their god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


YAWEH

ADONAI

YEHOVAH

EL

OUR LORD
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"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"

Joel 2:32



angel3
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Lord if I kill someone and call your name afterward will I be saved?

Thanks a bunch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16525437


In this religion, Yes of course. Nothing wrong with killing, God told his people to do it all the time in the bible.
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No man chooses to be saved. Those who are to be saved were predestinated .... ordained to believe and obtain eternal life from the foundations of the world and .....

these are filthy -hell deserving with NOTHING good in them at all- nothing redeeming about them... these are just sinners plucked like brands from the burning and made monuments to His love and mercy ... but they will be cleansed. The lepers are healed. The lame begin to walk. The blind still come to see..

What manner of love is this that God showed by pouring out his blood for the elect at Calvary!

Isa_48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
No, none ever chooses to be saved.

Nobody CAN make that decision to come to Christ.. not ever. The dead cannot come to life by themself.


Mat_20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Mat_22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mar_13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Luk_10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Luk_23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
Joh_6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Joh_13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Act_1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act_1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Act_10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.


Act_22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Rom_16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
1Co_1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co_1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
2Co_8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2Th_2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Ti_2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Jas_2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Rev_17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16732308


Then your God is evil because he WILLINGLY allows people to die even being able to save them.

Sorry that's not a divine being, and nothing you say will make it one.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Nah, I do things my way... not Yahweh.
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lmao
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"Marvel not, you must be born again."
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Now is the acceptable time. Now is the day of salvation. Today you can be baptized into Christ. You can be born again of water and the Spirit (John 3:3-6)

We live our lives one day at a time. Yesterday is gone.
Tomorrow never comes.
Today is the only day we have, to be saved by the grace of God.

"Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Corinthians 6:2)

:SVD:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


hf
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i saved a $1.47 at the Big Lots today.....
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No man chooses to be saved. Those who are to be saved were predestinated .... ordained to believe and obtain eternal life from the foundations of the world and .....

these are filthy -hell deserving with NOTHING good in them at all- nothing redeeming about them... these are just sinners plucked like brands from the burning and made monuments to His love and mercy ... but they will be cleansed. The lepers are healed. The lame begin to walk. The blind still come to see..

What manner of love is this that God showed by pouring out his blood for the elect at Calvary!

Isa_48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
No, none ever chooses to be saved.

Nobody CAN make that decision to come to Christ.. not ever. The dead cannot come to life by themself.


Mat_20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Mat_22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mar_13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Luk_10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Luk_23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
Joh_6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Joh_13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Act_1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act_1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Act_10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.


Act_22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Rom_16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
1Co_1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co_1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
2Co_8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2Th_2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Ti_2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Jas_2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Rev_17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16732308


Then your God is evil because he WILLINGLY allows people to die even being able to save them.

Sorry that's not a divine being, and nothing you say will make it one.
 Quoting: ajk



Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
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No man chooses to be saved. Those who are to be saved were predestinated .... ordained to believe and obtain eternal life from the foundations of the world and .....

these are filthy -hell deserving with NOTHING good in them at all- nothing redeeming about them... these are just sinners plucked like brands from the burning and made monuments to His love and mercy ... but they will be cleansed. The lepers are healed. The lame begin to walk. The blind still come to see..

What manner of love is this that God showed by pouring out his blood for the elect at Calvary!

Isa_48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
No, none ever chooses to be saved.

Nobody CAN make that decision to come to Christ.. not ever. The dead cannot come to life by themself.


Mat_20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Mat_22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mar_13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Luk_10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Luk_23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
Joh_6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Joh_13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Act_1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act_1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Act_10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.


Act_22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Rom_16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
1Co_1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co_1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
2Co_8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2Th_2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Ti_2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Jas_2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Rev_17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16732308


Then your God is evil because he WILLINGLY allows people to die even being able to save them.

Sorry that's not a divine being, and nothing you say will make it one.
 Quoting: ajk



Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16732308


I repeat, that's NOT how a divine being acts, I don't give a flying fuck what your supposed "good book" says. It means nothing in the face of logic and good sense.

Get an education.......please.

Last Edited by ajk on 05/26/2012 09:24 PM
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