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NYTimes: “Oregon could lie in the path of any new radioactive plumes” from Fukushima

 
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NYTimes: “Oregon could lie in the path of any new radioactive plumes” from Fukushima
“The No. 4 reactor is visibly damaged and in a fragile state, down to the floor that holds the spent fuel pool,” said Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor at Kyoto University’s Research Reactor Institute and one of the experts raising concerns. “Any radioactive release could be huge and go directly into the environment.”

[...]

Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat whose state, Oregon, could lie in the path of any new radioactive plumes and who has studied nuclear waste issues, is among those pushing for faster action. After his recent visit to the ravaged plant, Senator Wyden said the pool at No. 4 poses “an extraordinary and continuing risk” and the retrieval of spent fuel “should be a priority given the possibility of further earthquakes.”

[...]

Tepco has said it will build a separate structure next to Reactor No. 4 to support a new crane. But under the plan, released last month, the fuel removal will begin in late 2013.

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THIS IS A PSYOP. They do not anyone to witness the My. Shasta Arrival. You FAILed REMEMBER.


WE ARE HERE.bsflag
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THIS IS A PSYOP. They do not anyone to witness the My. Shasta Arrival. You FAILed REMEMBER.


WE ARE HERE.bsflag
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I pray every day the Jetstream stays to the west of me.

It's some bad stuff, and the USA is saying NOTHING to the people
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Wyden Discusses a Recent Onsite Tour of Fukushima, Japan & Recovery Efforts



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Thread: Tepco estimates total cesium-137 release from Fukushima at 360,000 terabecquerels — 4 times higher than Chernobyl’s 85,000 terabecquerels
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Fukushima Day 439 - US Nuclear Sub Fire & Radiation Doomsday Date...start packing!

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Fourteen months after the accident, a pool brimming with used fuel rods and filled with vast quantities of radioactive cesium still sits on the top floor of a heavily damaged reactor building, covered only with plastic.

The public’s fears about the pool have grown in recent months as some scientists have warned that it has the most potential for setting off a new catastrophe

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The fears over the pool at Reactor No. 4, amplified over the Web, are helping to undermine assurances by Tepco and the Japanese government that the Fukushima plant has been brought to a stable condition and are highlighting how complicated the cleanup of the site, expected to take decades, will be.

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where the fuck can we get the truth about radioactive areas in the US?
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was checking out a geiger counter site this morning and they had a 'demo map' up for radiation readings in the us. the map was dated 2004, and had the 4 corners area at a whopping 139 CPM. MUCH MUCH higher than any of the readings NOW, even after fukushima. if you look at any of the radiation monitoring sites (and are fortunate enough to find one actually loading and current), 100 CPM is considered alarm level and nowhere in the us does it show levels even remotely that high.
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An internal audit has confirmed observers’ concerns that many of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s radiation monitors were out of service at the height of the 2011 Fukushima power plant meltdown in Japan [...]

RadNet consists of 124 stations scattered throughout U.S. territories and 40 deployable air monitors that can be sent to take readings anywhere, according to the IG report. [...]

At the time of the Fukushima crisis, “this critical infrastructure asset” was impaired because many monitors were broken, while others had not undergone filter changes in so long that they could not be used to accurately detect real-time radiation levels, the IG report says.

“On March 11, 2011, at the time of the Japan nuclear incident, 25 of the 124 installed RadNet monitors, or 20 percent, were out of service for an average of 130 days,” the report says. “In addition, six of the 12 RadNet monitors we sampled (50 percent) had gone over eight weeks without a filter change, and two of those for over 300 days,” the report adds, noting that EPA policy calls on operators to change the filters twice per week.

Currently, “EPA remains behind schedule for installing” radiation monitors and has not resolved contracting issues identified as causing similar problems with the system in a 2009 audit, the report says. “Until EPA improves contractor oversight, the agency’s ability to use RadNet data to protect human health and the environment, and meet requirements established in the National Response Framework for Radiological Incidents, is potentially impaired.” [...]

[link to www.nti.org]

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was checking out a geiger counter site this morning and they had a 'demo map' up for radiation readings in the us. the map was dated 2004, and had the 4 corners area at a whopping 139 CPM. MUCH MUCH higher than any of the readings NOW, even after fukushima. if you look at any of the radiation monitoring sites (and are fortunate enough to find one actually loading and current), 100 CPM is considered alarm level and nowhere in the us does it show levels even remotely that high.
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Thread: RadNet was “potentially impaired” for Fukushima — Officials questioned why they were using “dramatically less strict” standards for radiation
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yep, aware of that. thanks.

however, even the 'citizen' radiation watchers don't give us anything different. i've just gotten to the point that i think everything is bullshit. it's all based on lies. i'd just like some straight truth for once, as do we all i am sure.
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KY [After The] Rain Sample [Radiation] Test - 519 Cts/10 min



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Radiation Levels in Rain Water 25MAY2012 Ottawa Canada



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FALLOUT FORECAST 3) RAIN WILL NEVER BE THE SAME 5.21.2012



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!MAXIMUM ALERT! Unusual Jet Stream Radioactivity Detected



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Thread: Radioactive Rain - Barrie Ontario, Grand Canyon, Melbourne, St Louis, British Columbia, London UK
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Some people are just waking up to the basic realities of wind currents over a year after the fact. Heck the Japanese had those facts down many decades ago.



And you who think that ambient readings of radiation indicates risk, maybe deceiving yourselves seriously.

The risk here is not radiation per-se, but rather radioactive material.

Much of this radioactive material are emitters that will be little or hardly noticed by a Geiger counter, but if they lodge or concentrate in places inside the body they cause permanent damage in a small area and seed cancers.

Natural background levels in most places on the planet and in most of the US before Fuku was around 25cpm. If people are getting readings of 60 or 100 they are already well above natural background levels.

How long have you owned your Geiger counters? Knowing what readings you were getting before Fukushima is helpful in making up you own mind on the issue.

The hitch is, is at these levels it is not the radiation itself that is a hazard, but ingestion of radioactive material.

People who have regular Geiger counters need to test air filters, like from cars or buildings, and see if there is a significantly higher rate in the air filter than in normal ambient readings. If there is, that is cause for concern.

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Download the 19 minute broadcast here.

At 8:45 in

We’re going to see another year of these rainouts
Rainout= When hot particles get dropped from radioactive clouds during rainstorms
Official say radiation levels minute and no health risk
Working with scientists who are publishing paper that will definitively prove that to be wrong
Rainouts are occurring not just in Pacific NW… we will continue to see rainouts


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Thread: Radioactive Clouds: Rainout of hot particles to continue for another year — Not just in Pacific northwest, says Gundersen
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Thread: *** ARNIE GUNDERSEN - 6/12/2011 - Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle ***
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Some people are just waking up to the basic realities of wind currents over a year after the fact. Heck the Japanese had those facts down many decades ago.



And you who think that ambient readings of radiation indicates risk, maybe deceiving yourselves seriously.

The risk here is not radiation per-se, but rather radioactive material.

Much of this radioactive material are emitters that will be little or hardly noticed by a Geiger counter, but if they lodge or concentrate in places inside the body they cause permanent damage in a small area and seed cancers.

Natural background levels in most places on the planet and in most of the US before Fuku was around 25cpm. If people are getting readings of 60 or 100 they are already well above natural background levels.

How long have you owned your Geiger counters? Knowing what readings you were getting before Fukushima is helpful in making up you own mind on the issue.

The hitch is, is at these levels it is not the radiation itself that is a hazard, but ingestion of radioactive material.

People who have regular Geiger counters need to test air filters, like from cars or buildings, and see if there is a significantly higher rate in the air filter than in normal ambient readings. If there is, that is cause for concern.
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.. including bio-accumulation and concentration up the food chain. We are at the top.

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Note to the NY Times....

NO SHIT SHERLOCK. another do

At least you finally woke up......albeit 1 year late.


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It's a fact that a certain percentage of people in the US will develop cancer from Japan.

It's also a fact that asteroids, lighting, tornadoes, earthquakes, and flesh eating bacteria will claim some people's lives in the US.

I'm choosing not to crawl in a hole and hide from all of them.
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oregon is full of liberals

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so long libtards!

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People from Oregon are called " OATS " they are all oat like and smell like hippies.
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NYTimes: “Oregon could lie in the path of any new radioactive plumes” from Fukushima.

really, radiation levels low in Japan, yet Oregons not?

lets not apply any logic to the situation.
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I take readings in Calif. frequently, but none have been beyond the pale. And they are random throughout my property, like really divergent. And the rain has not altered them to any significant degree as I had expected because of March 2011 readings.

I realize my equipment is rudimentary and unable to detect many radionuclides but I bought a more expensive apparatus assuming it would be worthwhile, to no avail.

At any rate I am documenting mutations in the plant life of my garden and area consistently so I know the radiation is there, but clearly periodic. This a giant nightmare wrapped in an enigma......

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Oregon,like California,needs to fall off the planet.

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