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For the eurozone, the worst is yet to come

 
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05/27/2012 10:53 AM
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This is as bad as it gets, the Fed could end up bailing out the Eurozone.

I can't believe I just said that.
 Quoting: King David 16716695


A foreign prime minister already said it, and when it appeared in the foreign newspaper Geithner denied it.
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05/27/2012 10:56 AM
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Only one way out:

Deutsche Mark.
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SDR after the Euro and the Dollar crash.
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05/27/2012 11:11 AM

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Christine Lagarde Gives Explosive Interview On Greece, And Then Tries Desperately To Take It Back

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


Hi Luis, missed you and your updates mate. Hope you are having a great one.
As for Lagarde wow, what a freaking sociopath that gal is.
It's like they are trying the best for a Syriza govt. Do us a favor madame, put some sun cream on and fuck off.
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05/27/2012 11:14 AM

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Merkel looks like one of those ventriloquist dolls in that picture... Heh, probably isnt too far from the truth either. tounge
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She's quite good looking by German Standards.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247261


lmao
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05/27/2012 11:15 AM
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Christine Lagarde Gives Explosive Interview On Greece, And Then Tries Desperately To Take It Back

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


Hi Luis, missed you and your updates mate. Hope you are having a great one.
As for Lagarde wow, what a freaking sociopath that gal is.
It's like they are trying the best for a Syriza govt. Do us a favor madame, put some sun cream on and fuck off.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Well, they can afford greece going broke.

But not italy or spain .. those will take the euro and the EU down.

So they switched strategy, from keeping greece alive to making a clear statement, a devastating example with greece to the other PIIGS.

If i were in greece i would expect things to get way worse... on purpose.
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Christine Lagarde Gives Explosive Interview On Greece, And Then Tries Desperately To Take It Back

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


The end quote from the article. . .

"You should click on the link to the Facebook comment above. The commenters are livid, and even professionals are Greece are scratching their heads about what she could have been thinking."
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05/27/2012 11:23 AM

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Christine Lagarde Gives Explosive Interview On Greece, And Then Tries Desperately To Take It Back

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


Hi Luis, missed you and your updates mate. Hope you are having a great one.
As for Lagarde wow, what a freaking sociopath that gal is.
It's like they are trying the best for a Syriza govt. Do us a favor madame, put some sun cream on and fuck off.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Well, they can afford greece going broke.

But not italy or spain .. those will take the euro and the EU down.

So they switched strategy, from keeping greece alive to making a clear statement, a devastating example with greece to the other PIIGS.

If i were in greece i would expect things to get way worse... on purpose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331367


We ll see how things will pan out tbh. You are correct that this is an exemplary punishment though. Most Greeks have accepted bankruptcy and poverty. It's the banks and the elite that they haven't accepted these things yet. But this game of putting all the Greeks in the same boat as tax evaders is getting ridiculous by now. Low and middle class Greeks are taxed at source, they cannot evade taxation. It's the 1-2% of the elite and the corrupt political system that is not paying their fair share and the lower classes are now taxed to extinction because of this.
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05/27/2012 11:42 AM
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I think the current European Union will fall and be reshaped with Germany at the helm of it all.

I feel we may be watching the rise of Germany to rule the European Union. Let's see how the cards fall and are restacked.

Who knew or called this one?
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Germans nowadays don't want to lead others countries or a Union, they just want to work and have peace and freedom.

I'd suggest a European wide poll:

United States of Europe like the US model
or
The complete dismantling of the EU and back to different currencies.
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05/27/2012 11:43 AM
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Merkel looks like one of those ventriloquist dolls in that picture... Heh, probably isnt too far from the truth either. tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14899565


She's quite good looking by German Standards.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247261
lmao
Almost a German beauty.
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05/27/2012 12:01 PM
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Just KEEP cuddling up to that FIAT/worthless paper the parasitic politicians call 'money' !

" Every dog has his day; my daddy used to say" , BUT when that dog lifts it's leg to pee, you and your fiat will be 'all wet'.

Got silver ? Forget the gold; they will kill you for that if it's spent. Got food for a YEAR, grasshoppers ? No? Please starve QUIETLY and don't knock on my door !

Eagle
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05/27/2012 12:17 PM
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duh, 2013 will be hard on everyone's wallet
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If we make it that long damned
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05/27/2012 12:19 PM
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Germans nowadays don't want to lead others countries or a Union, they just want to work and have peace and freedom.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16740770


are you syre about it?
[link to www.german-foreign-policy.com]
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05/27/2012 12:25 PM
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This is the time to think about stocking up on food and supplies.

While I don't think we are going to see war (in Europe), we are going to see economic migrations, food & fuel shortages, more unemployment, and general chaos including large riots. Borders are going to be closed. In the case of the UK, this will probably happen ridiculously late and after a couple of million have already entered the country (because we have gutless incompetents running our country).

You can not just "write off" Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and others in the southern half of Europe, and expect them to just sit back and accept bankruptcy. If I couldn't put food on the table for my kids, I would go nuts. That's what is going to happen... a short period of extreme chaos and upheaval. Unfortunately, events like this in the past have tended to bring extremists into power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1464021


Well as long as they are the right kind of extremist......muhahahaha
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Lloyd's is probably one of THE most malignant despotic cartels on the planet.

When a Rothchild/Banker gambling, murder, espianoge, mind-control, brain-washing, child molester, despot organization like this makes a statement, everyone should take notice.

However since the European Union is responsible for the current financial collapse, this may be part of the strategy of their control grid.

Problem-Reaction-Soloution

1) Creat the PROBLEM (The financial collapse)

2) Control the REACTION (Months/Years of News/Articles/Publications)

3) Provide the SOLOUTION (Yet to come)

These Mind-Cotrol Sociopaths are completing their plan, they are preparing the move to Stage 3.

As the EU collapses, the U.S, dollar WILL follow in short order.

Then, like KNIGHTS riding great BEASTS the same Psychopaths that started this debacle will provide (by force?) the soloution?
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05/27/2012 01:27 PM

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Theresa May: we'll stop migrants if euro collapses


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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05/27/2012 01:32 PM
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What

the

hell

happened to Merkels mouth?

hiding
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05/27/2012 01:32 PM
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What do you guys reckon? Will the Euro crash and if so, what is your intuitive/educated guess as to when??

I think yes it will crash, and I'm giving it 6 - 10 weeks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106


5-10 MONTHS !! IF EUROPE COUNTRIES DON'T ACCEPT GIVING AWAY THEIR ECONOMY SOVEREIGNTY TO GERMANY !!

DOOM IS ON AND HOT !!

EUROPE NWO IS HERE !!
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05/27/2012 01:34 PM

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What

the

hell

happened to Merkels mouth?

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16399849


its this way since the beer spill incident!
like every german she goes crazy when someone wastes good beer!

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05/27/2012 02:09 PM
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This is the time to think about stocking up on food and supplies.

While I don't think we are going to see war (in Europe), we are going to see economic migrations, food & fuel shortages, more unemployment, and general chaos including large riots. Borders are going to be closed. In the case of the UK, this will probably happen ridiculously late and after a couple of million have already entered the country (because we have gutless incompetents running our country).

You can not just "write off" Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and others in the southern half of Europe, and expect them to just sit back and accept bankruptcy. If I couldn't put food on the table for my kids, I would go nuts. That's what is going to happen... a short period of extreme chaos and upheaval. Unfortunately, events like this in the past have tended to bring extremists into power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1464021



You're right a huge amount of migration... it's happening now. We're a British family who own and home and business in Spain but we're returning at the end of June. There are estimated to be 5.5 million British expats living throughout Europe. All the expats I know are making plans to return.

Many Germans and Dutch are leaving/have left too.

Many Spanish are making plans to move to Germany because they keep hearing how fantastic they're doing and how low their unemployment is.

The majority of South American and even Moroccans have gone back to their own countries.

However, there are many Russians moving to the CdS area. They're snapping up bargain homes and hotels.

As for Britain being last to tighten it's borders - they're already making plans.
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05/27/2012 02:12 PM
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Theresa May: we'll stop migrants if euro collapses


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


It's quite amusing isn't it? They're going to stop 'foreign' Europeans but there's no mention of how they're going to handle 5.5 million returning Brits, scattered throughout Europe.
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Lloyd's is probably one of THE most malignant despotic cartels on the planet.

When a Rothchild/Banker gambling, murder, espianoge, mind-control, brain-washing, child molester, despot organization like this makes a statement, everyone should take notice.

However since the European Union is responsible for the current financial collapse, this may be part of the strategy of their control grid.

Problem-Reaction-Soloution

1) Creat the PROBLEM (The financial collapse)

2) Control the REACTION (Months/Years of News/Articles/Publications)

3) Provide the SOLOUTION (Yet to come)

These Mind-Cotrol Sociopaths are completing their plan, they are preparing the move to Stage 3.

As the EU collapses, the U.S, dollar WILL follow in short order.

Then, like KNIGHTS riding great BEASTS the same Psychopaths that started this debacle will provide (by force?) the soloution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16546691

great post...hf
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05/27/2012 02:32 PM
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God help us all
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05/27/2012 02:33 PM
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This is EXACTLY what's going on. Already I'm hearing the odd political voice saying that a full fiscal and political union is the only solution. Far from breaking up, this thing will pull us all closer together. But I don't think 'force' will be necessary. We are just getting into the process. Finally when people are going hungry in country after country, when civil strife peaks, the threat of war looms - people will be only too happy to accept political union - which will be put forward as our salvation - with weasel words about protecting sovereignty.
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This is EXACTLY what's going on. Already I'm hearing the odd political voice saying that a full fiscal and political union is the only solution. Far from breaking up, this thing will pull us all closer together. But I don't think 'force' will be necessary. We are just getting into the process. Finally when people are going hungry in country after country, when civil strife peaks, the threat of war looms - people will be only too happy to accept political union - which will be put forward as our salvation - with weasel words about protecting sovereignty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


I don't think they will accept political union. People here are angry and they're getting angrier each day. Angry people will need to divert that anger eventually and we'll simply end up in war. After the war jobs will be created to rebuild everything and people will be so horrified at their personal losses, during the war, they'll forget the financial crisis ever existed. Just look back at history and the writing is on the wall.
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This is EXACTLY what's going on. Already I'm hearing the odd political voice saying that a full fiscal and political union is the only solution. Far from breaking up, this thing will pull us all closer together. But I don't think 'force' will be necessary. We are just getting into the process. Finally when people are going hungry in country after country, when civil strife peaks, the threat of war looms - people will be only too happy to accept political union - which will be put forward as our salvation - with weasel words about protecting sovereignty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


I don't think they will accept political union. People here are angry and they're getting angrier each day. Angry people will need to divert that anger eventually and we'll simply end up in war. After the war jobs will be created to rebuild everything and people will be so horrified at their personal losses, during the war, they'll forget the financial crisis ever existed. Just look back at history and the writing is on the wall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16768646


I also don´t think there is going to be a political union anytime soon.

But no war either. Maybe tensions, borders closing, protectionism and so on. But not an outright military confrontation. That is in no one´s interest, nor is it practical. It also wouldn´t make any sense. What would the Greeks fight for? For the money they borrowed and wasted? Who´s fault is that??

If they think printing money is a solution, they can print drachmas. If we print euros that way, the euro will be just like the drachma anyway. We are all broke and we did it ourselves.

What is possible, instead, is that people will want to thank their own politicians in their own countries, since the decisions were just taken by a handful of people. No one asked the Germans to have the euro, nor the Italians, nor anyone else, as far as I know.
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05/27/2012 03:07 PM
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Exciting!!! I am 100% certain that it will not affect me either!! Cause I got gold, god and a gun!
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If you have God, you will not need gold and guns.
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LOL. Even Jesus told his apostles to go out and trade their cloak for a sword because He was going away and they would have to defend themselves. God helps those who help themselves, get the tools you need and the preparations you should make and let God take care of the rest.
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611 BANKER RESIGNATIONS


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This is EXACTLY what's going on. Already I'm hearing the odd political voice saying that a full fiscal and political union is the only solution. Far from breaking up, this thing will pull us all closer together. But I don't think 'force' will be necessary. We are just getting into the process. Finally when people are going hungry in country after country, when civil strife peaks, the threat of war looms - people will be only too happy to accept political union - which will be put forward as our salvation - with weasel words about protecting sovereignty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


Greece is tiny in comparison to Spain and/or Italy. All the southern eurozone countries are in over their head. The region of Catalonia has reported it can't pay it's bills and has asked the Spanish government for a 'bailout'. Other regions will follow because if there's money for one they'll expect money for all and then austerity is out of the window. How will the people react to Bankia being given €19 Billion, by the government, when they're being told there's nothing in the kitty for their regions and more cuts must be made? It won't end well, that's for sure!

I don't think they will accept political union. People here are angry and they're getting angrier each day. Angry people will need to divert that anger eventually and we'll simply end up in war. After the war jobs will be created to rebuild everything and people will be so horrified at their personal losses, during the war, they'll forget the financial crisis ever existed. Just look back at history and the writing is on the wall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16768646


I also don´t think there is going to be a political union anytime soon.

But no war either. Maybe tensions, borders closing, protectionism and so on. But not an outright military confrontation. That is in no one´s interest, nor is it practical. It also wouldn´t make any sense. What would the Greeks fight for? For the money they borrowed and wasted? Who´s fault is that??

If they think printing money is a solution, they can print drachmas. If we print euros that way, the euro will be just like the drachma anyway. We are all broke and we did it ourselves.

What is possible, instead, is that people will want to thank their own politicians in their own countries, since the decisions were just taken by a handful of people. No one asked the Germans to have the euro, nor the Italians, nor anyone else, as far as I know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4015910
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