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CONFIRMED: Secret backdoor codes found in China-made US Military chips!

 
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05/28/2012 12:27 AM
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Sounds like an act of war to me.
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Blame Canada,blame Canadaaa...
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05/28/2012 12:31 AM
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"All your chips are berong to us"
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fixed it
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05/28/2012 01:47 AM
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No shit!

How was Iran really able to get that drone?

Why were Chinese agents in Pakistan when the secret raid resulted in the crash of a prototype helicopter crashed during the raid on OBL's compound?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Why are the Chinese covertly aiding and funding terrorists and terror supporting regimes along with the Russians?

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As well as the Federal Reserve and Central Bank of Europe. I got info from a lawyer who spent 12 months with the Saudi Royal Family. Your government is fighting against something they are helping to pay for. Talk about Hypocritical
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05/28/2012 01:53 AM
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Sounds like an act of war to me.
 Quoting: JZX


Insurance. Dont think your Government is not involved in espionage.

Actually China is not hostile. But they are smart, and wise is combat.

Since the US has all the nuclear capability to destroy the World many times over using them, and then condems others who try to obtain them(until of course a nation obtains them), why woulnt another Country with the ability do this?

Fist rule of War is to meet your enemy on a level battlefield.

Westpoint teaches these basics, and they also still teach "the art of War". Who do you think they learned that from?

So I presume you expect them then to just lay there, let the "aggressor" advance, without securing your Countries interest?

Would you ask the same from Canada, as a Canadian Citizen?

If China already has control of US nuclear weapons by a backdoor, and had hostile intent towards the US, China would have disabled our nukes and the other countries along with China launched their own nukes, and taken us out already.

And you wouldnt have any lights on either in Canada.

China depends on the US for buying its shit. They care about their Society first above all other things.

And Colonizing is not an aspect of Chinese History. That is why their culture remains intact. When a culture and Society colonizes, they bring their slaves back, which eventually mix with their own culture and race, thus dismantling the culture and Society. We dont see that with the Chinese Society now, which is one of many proofs Historically they did not colonize.
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05/28/2012 01:59 AM
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Re: CONFIRMED: Secret backdoor codes found in China-made US Military chips!
f you use this key you can disable the chip or reprogram it at will, even if locked by the user with their own key. This particular chip is prevalent in many systems from weapons, nuclear power plants to public transport. In other words, this backdoor access could be turned into an advanced Stuxnet weapon to attack potentially millions of systems.

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 Quoting: cc nli 16543593


You can do that even with American made chips, the Chinese just copied the already inherently insecure chips that used to be made in the US, now we can blame China for our own incompetence.

A lot of these chips and PLC systems were designed way before the internet and new designs just piled on more crap over the other crap without correcting the flaws. Saying China did this on purpose is kind of wrong in the first place when all they did was copy the flaws in the chips.
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That's a good point, engineers have been putting back doors in things since the beginning, it's kinda like their trademark at this point.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Some of these back doors were put in by engineers just to reset the chip if they get locked out themselves. A lot of these flaws are purely accidental and then complete ignorance over time.

Then we sell these chips to China to be manufactured there, and they just reproduce the same chips with the same flaws. And considering that China uses these same chips, they're just as vulnerable. As a previous Wired report mentioned that a good huge chunk of the Chinese the industry and military is seriously insecure and seriously vulnerable because of this, not just the US.

So in the end, we end up with a big pile of shit until we can create something completely new from scratch.

At least in the US, people are aware of these flaws and able to counter them, in China, they're completely clueless about these flaws and insecurities, and lack the experience and expertize that US or European engineers have to deal with it.
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I wouldn't blame the Chinese. FPGAs are reprogrammable-reconfigurable chips, with JTAG being an interface used from programming/debugging FPGAs and microcontrollers. I am sure these backdoors are designed by the companies in order to be able to keep control of their products when asked by higher authorities in case that they are locked (for example having an on-chip FLASH memory locked and unreadable from the common programmer devices). So these backdoors are there in order that your government (CIA etc) can steal the firmware of the otherwise "locked" devices. Many products of the enemies of the USA are made by using FPGAs and microcontrollers from American companies, so I think it's the other way. It is not random that China made their own series of x86 compatible processors and microcontrollers (FYI they don't have to copy any design, they just have to know the machine language which is freely available in most cases in order to implement the behaviour with a HDL language). They don't want to be victims of industrial espionage.
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Sounds like an act of war to me.
 Quoting: JZX


Insurance. Dont think your Government is not involved in espionage.

Actually China is not hostile. But they are smart, and wise is combat.

Since the US has all the nuclear capability to destroy the World many times over using them, and then condems others who try to obtain them(until of course a nation obtains them), why woulnt another Country with the ability do this?

Fist rule of War is to meet your enemy on a level battlefield.

Westpoint teaches these basics, and they also still teach "the art of War". Who do you think they learned that from?

So I presume you expect them then to just lay there, let the "aggressor" advance, without securing your Countries interest?

Would you ask the same from Canada, as a Canadian Citizen?

If China already has control of US nuclear weapons by a backdoor, and had hostile intent towards the US, China would have disabled our nukes and the other countries along with China launched their own nukes, and taken us out already.

And you wouldnt have any lights on either in Canada.

China depends on the US for buying its shit. They care about their Society first above all other things.

And Colonizing is not an aspect of Chinese History. That is why their culture remains intact. When a culture and Society colonizes, they bring their slaves back, which eventually mix with their own culture and race, thus dismantling the culture and Society. We dont see that with the Chinese Society now, which is one of many proofs Historically they did not colonize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7709473


Moreover. Throughout History we see that arrogant hostile and aggressive empire, nations, and kingdoms, are the ones that dont stand anymore.

Chinese culture and Society has been around since at least 7000 B.C.

They have proven, flaws and all, that they can maintain harmony in the World, while remaining intact as a Culture and Society.

I doubt in a few years, that either Canada, or the US, will be able to say such things, after a mere few hundred years. Same with all the Western empires. Just like they have always been. Fire flies in the night, and come morning disappear.
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Sounds like an act of war to me.
 Quoting: JZX


Insurance. Dont think your Government is not involved in espionage.

Actually China is not hostile. But they are smart, and wise is combat.

Since the US has all the nuclear capability to destroy the World many times over using them, and then condems others who try to obtain them(until of course a nation obtains them), why woulnt another Country with the ability do this?

Fist rule of War is to meet your enemy on a level battlefield.

Westpoint teaches these basics, and they also still teach "the art of War". Who do you think they learned that from?

So I presume you expect them then to just lay there, let the "aggressor" advance, without securing your Countries interest?

Would you ask the same from Canada, as a Canadian Citizen?

If China already has control of US nuclear weapons by a backdoor, and had hostile intent towards the US, China would have disabled our nukes and the other countries along with China launched their own nukes, and taken us out already.

And you wouldnt have any lights on either in Canada.

China depends on the US for buying its shit. They care about their Society first above all other things.

And Colonizing is not an aspect of Chinese History. That is why their culture remains intact. When a culture and Society colonizes, they bring their slaves back, which eventually mix with their own culture and race, thus dismantling the culture and Society. We dont see that with the Chinese Society now, which is one of many proofs Historically they did not colonize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7709473


Moreover. Throughout History we see that arrogant hostile and aggressive empire, nations, and kingdoms, are the ones that dont stand anymore.

Chinese culture and Society has been around since at least 7000 B.C.

They have proven, flaws and all, that they can maintain harmony in the World, while remaining intact as a Culture and Society.

I doubt in a few years, that either Canada, or the US, will be able to say such things, after a mere few hundred years. Same with all the Western empires. Just like they have always been. Fire flies in the night, and come morning disappear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7709473


Not exactly true. China has been raped time and time again, either by their own people or by foreign invaders. Chinese culture has changed a lot numerous times. Keep in mind also the China you see today was not at all what it was a thousand years ago. And the China you see today may change yet again considering how strong the muslim influence is on it, and how strong the western influence is on South-eastern China.
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world domination? and who would they sell all their shit to if they destroyed america and europe?
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To Russia, India, Indonesia or any of the other 6.6 billion people on the planet!

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