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Funny enough that is the concept of NUN in a Nut shell.
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NUN......What do you mean????


Not sure either. Maybe referring to Nut and Geb.
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Funny enough that is the concept of NUN in a Nut shell.
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NUN......What do you mean????
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Not sure either. Maybe referring to Nut and Geb.


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To the AC that goes by "nobody"

I can't read your posts (:
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To the AC that goes by "nobody"

I can't read your posts (:
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That's strange. Why not?
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To the AC that goes by "nobody"

I can't read your posts (:
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That's strange. Why not?
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Not quite sure. I kind of have a feeling of what I should do and what I shouldn't do. Or what I need and what I don't need to do...
Everytime I come across one of his posts I don't feel like reading it. I've read some... but I really have to force myself to do it.. It's not exactly a bad thing though. It's like I already know what he is saying.. and the way he says it isn't pleasant to my mind...

Anyways, good morning/evening everyone! (:
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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
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To the AC that goes by "nobody"

I can't read your posts (:
 Quoting: 1908247


That's strange. Why not?
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Not quite sure. I kind of have a feeling of what I should do and what I shouldn't do. Or what I need and what I don't need to do...
Everytime I come across one of his posts I don't feel like reading it. I've read some... but I really have to force myself to do it.. It's not exactly a bad thing though. It's like I already know what he is saying.. and the way he says it isn't pleasant to my mind...

Anyways, good morning/evening everyone! (:
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Not pleasant. He always seems pleasant to me????
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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
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Thanks Dion :)
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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
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I recommend everyone read Steve Brust's "To Reign in Hell". One of the most amazing writings I have ever read. He calls primeval chaos: the cacoastrum.


It deals with the revolt of angels in Heaven from a point of view that casts Satan as a sympathetic protagonist. The novel appears to be heavily influenced by John Milton's Paradise Lost.

The story begins by detailing the creation story of Heaven. There is a substance of raw chaos: cacoastrum; and stuff of order: illiaster. From the illiaster came consciousness that resulted in the firstborn angels: Yaweh, Satan, Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, Leviathan and Belial. The firstborn create Heaven in order to protect themselves from the cacoastrum, which threatens to destroy them. This event is later referred to as the 'First Wave.' The walls of heaven have collapsed two times since then, resulting in the Second and Third Waves, creating, respectively, the archangels and angels.

After the third wave Heaven has been divided into four regencies named for the cardinal points of the compass. Belial, half-mad and trapped in the form of a dragon, rules the Northern Regency. Leviathan, a kindly woman in the shape of a sea serpent, oversees the Western Regency. Satan rules the South with his loyal servant Beelzebub, trapped in the body of a golden retriever. Lucifer rules the East, with his consort Lilith, who had previously been briefly involved with Satan. Yaweh oversees all of Heaven from the center, aided by his healer Raphael and warrior Michael.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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hello, brazil,,

reading that this ones posts are in any way abhorent towards your goodself,, and therefore unreadable,, came as a suprise to say the least,,

never is any intention deliberatly directed in such a manner,, as too receive this kind of response,,

gut feelings are often correct,, however,, one hopes in this instance,, your mind is simply jaded for whatever emotional reason,,

too be perceived,, as an un-palatable constuct,, serves too retract from any goodwill offered,, by way of intelligent discussion,,

a tainting of an honest good intention,, possibly through a un-waranted passive suggestive motive,,

yet one understands deeply,, and respects all positions of mind,,

please accept an anpolgy on this behalf,, should your mind retain the strength to allow you too read this post,,

by contrast,, your posts are always read and enjoyed,,

please continue,, learning all,, is understanding all,,

as all colours and shapes and sounds,, are witnessed with a childs openess,, and loved as such,,


much love,,
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hello, brazil,,

reading that this ones posts are in any way abhorent towards your goodself,, and therefore unreadable,, came as a suprise to say the least,,

never is any intention deliberatly directed in such a manner,, as too receive this kind of response,,

gut feelings are often correct,, however,, one hopes in this instance,, your mind is simply jaded for whatever emotional reason,,

too be perceived,, as an un-palatable constuct,, serves too retract from any goodwill offered,, by way of intelligent discussion,,

a tainting of an honest good intention,, possibly through a un-waranted passive suggestive motive,,

yet one understands deeply,, and respects all positions of mind,,

please accept an anpolgy on this behalf,, should your mind retain the strength to allow you too read this post,,

by contrast,, your posts are always read and enjoyed,,

please continue,, learning all,, is understanding all,,

as all colours and shapes and sounds,, are witnessed with a childs openess,, and loved as such,,


much love,,
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I never heard the word abhorrent o.o
It seems to have a wrong meaning here.. I just feel something in your posts and don't feel the need to read them. But there's nothing wrong about them, actually it's quite the contrary!
- ? Nus.

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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


I recommend everyone read Steve Brust's "To Reign in Hell". One of the most amazing writings I have ever read. He calls primeval chaos: the cacoastrum.


It deals with the revolt of angels in Heaven from a point of view that casts Satan as a sympathetic protagonist. The novel appears to be heavily influenced by John Milton's Paradise Lost.

The story begins by detailing the creation story of Heaven. There is a substance of raw chaos: cacoastrum; and stuff of order: illiaster. From the illiaster came consciousness that resulted in the firstborn angels: Yaweh, Satan, Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, Leviathan and Belial. The firstborn create Heaven in order to protect themselves from the cacoastrum, which threatens to destroy them. This event is later referred to as the 'First Wave.' The walls of heaven have collapsed two times since then, resulting in the Second and Third Waves, creating, respectively, the archangels and angels.

After the third wave Heaven has been divided into four regencies named for the cardinal points of the compass. Belial, half-mad and trapped in the form of a dragon, rules the Northern Regency. Leviathan, a kindly woman in the shape of a sea serpent, oversees the Western Regency. Satan rules the South with his loyal servant Beelzebub, trapped in the body of a golden retriever. Lucifer rules the East, with his consort Lilith, who had previously been briefly involved with Satan. Yaweh oversees all of Heaven from the center, aided by his healer Raphael and warrior Michael.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The unconcious mind surfs the waves elegantly. The Ideas it creates may not like the break.

Did he postulate how and why the primary forces agreed on death and dominion to exemplify superior strategem or more balanced derivation of their Ideas as dominant form?

As immaterial form is as materially moving as arguing on the internet. ;)

Was the fight of persuasion one of propaganda and seizing other minds or were the vapors of chaos more substantial?
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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


I recommend everyone read Steve Brust's "To Reign in Hell". One of the most amazing writings I have ever read. He calls primeval chaos: the cacoastrum.


It deals with the revolt of angels in Heaven from a point of view that casts Satan as a sympathetic protagonist. The novel appears to be heavily influenced by John Milton's Paradise Lost.

The story begins by detailing the creation story of Heaven. There is a substance of raw chaos: cacoastrum; and stuff of order: illiaster. From the illiaster came consciousness that resulted in the firstborn angels: Yaweh, Satan, Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, Leviathan and Belial. The firstborn create Heaven in order to protect themselves from the cacoastrum, which threatens to destroy them. This event is later referred to as the 'First Wave.' The walls of heaven have collapsed two times since then, resulting in the Second and Third Waves, creating, respectively, the archangels and angels.

After the third wave Heaven has been divided into four regencies named for the cardinal points of the compass. Belial, half-mad and trapped in the form of a dragon, rules the Northern Regency. Leviathan, a kindly woman in the shape of a sea serpent, oversees the Western Regency. Satan rules the South with his loyal servant Beelzebub, trapped in the body of a golden retriever. Lucifer rules the East, with his consort Lilith, who had previously been briefly involved with Satan. Yaweh oversees all of Heaven from the center, aided by his healer Raphael and warrior Michael.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The unconcious mind surfs the waves elegantly. The Ideas it creates may not like the break.

Did he postulate how and why the primary forces agreed on death and dominion to exemplify superior strategem or more balanced derivation of their Ideas as dominant form?

As immaterial form is as materially moving as arguing on the internet. ;)

Was the fight of persuasion one of propaganda and seizing other minds or were the vapors of chaos more substantial?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


I read it a while ago. I want to read it again. My reading list is vast. sigh

Yes, he did postulate that. Yaweh wanted to build a wall around heaven to keep the 4th wave from changing heaven. This Forth Wall is the creation of Earth.

He tells Satan to persuade the angels to construct 'the wall', knowing that at least 1000 angels will perish. Satan finds himself wondering if they have the ethical right to coerce anyone into participating.

Abdiel plays Yaweh and Satan against each other telling them that the other has no interest in discussing matters further. Yaweh wants the wall built, period. Satan feels it is up to the angels if they want to build it, since they will be the ones risking their 'existence'. And now, because of Abdiel, neither are talking about it anymore.

Yaweh's righteousness gets the best of him. He proclaims himself God, and even his supporters are taken aback at the proclamation, but soon they begin worshipping him, giving him more 'energy'. Using the energy of his newfound worshipers, he creates a new angel, Yeshuah, who he proclaims his son and heir.

The lines are drawn and sides taken, mostly because of Abdiel's machinations, and fuck ups.

Satan will not acknowledge Yaweh's dishonest claim to Godhood, and neither will Yaweh abandon it, so the conflict continues.

Abdiel, now on the run from both sides, begins digging a hole in the wall of Heaven, but Mephistopheles finds and strangles him before he can finish the work. Satan's hosts gain the ascendency in the battle. Seeing that defeat is inevitable, Yaweh decides to destroy Heaven by expanding the hole that Abdiel had been deepening. Yet when the wall of Heaven is breached, flooding Heaven with cacoastrum, Yaweh finds that he cannot allow himself to be destroyed by the cacoastrum; it is not in his nature.

Yeshuah, seeing an opportunity to triumph over Satan's forces, sacrifices his life by leaping into the breach and directing the rupture towards the hosts of Satan, devastating them. Meanwhile, as the rebels fight for Heaven, Satan is captured but with the help of Beelzebub and Mephistopheles leaves Heaven; his followers join him in the abyss and create a third stronghold: Hell.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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NUN: The seas of primeval chaos.
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I recommend everyone read Steve Brust's "To Reign in Hell". One of the most amazing writings I have ever read. He calls primeval chaos: the cacoastrum.


It deals with the revolt of angels in Heaven from a point of view that casts Satan as a sympathetic protagonist. The novel appears to be heavily influenced by John Milton's Paradise Lost.

The story begins by detailing the creation story of Heaven. There is a substance of raw chaos: cacoastrum; and stuff of order: illiaster. From the illiaster came consciousness that resulted in the firstborn angels: Yaweh, Satan, Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, Leviathan and Belial. The firstborn create Heaven in order to protect themselves from the cacoastrum, which threatens to destroy them. This event is later referred to as the 'First Wave.' The walls of heaven have collapsed two times since then, resulting in the Second and Third Waves, creating, respectively, the archangels and angels.

After the third wave Heaven has been divided into four regencies named for the cardinal points of the compass. Belial, half-mad and trapped in the form of a dragon, rules the Northern Regency. Leviathan, a kindly woman in the shape of a sea serpent, oversees the Western Regency. Satan rules the South with his loyal servant Beelzebub, trapped in the body of a golden retriever. Lucifer rules the East, with his consort Lilith, who had previously been briefly involved with Satan. Yaweh oversees all of Heaven from the center, aided by his healer Raphael and warrior Michael.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The unconcious mind surfs the waves elegantly. The Ideas it creates may not like the break.

Did he postulate how and why the primary forces agreed on death and dominion to exemplify superior strategem or more balanced derivation of their Ideas as dominant form?

As immaterial form is as materially moving as arguing on the internet. ;)

Was the fight of persuasion one of propaganda and seizing other minds or were the vapors of chaos more substantial?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


I read it a while ago. I want to read it again. My reading list is vast. sigh

Yes, he did postulate that. Yaweh wanted to build a wall around heaven to keep the 4th wave from changing heaven. This Forth Wall is the creation of Earth.

He tells Satan to persuade the angels to construct 'the wall', knowing that at least 1000 angels will perish. Satan finds himself wondering if they have the ethical right to coerce anyone into participating.

Abdiel plays Yaweh and Satan against each other telling them that the other has no interest in discussing matters further. Yaweh wants the wall built, period. Satan feels it is up to the angels if they want to build it, since they will be the ones risking their 'existence'. And now, because of Abdiel, neither are talking about it anymore.

Yaweh's righteousness gets the best of him. He proclaims himself God, and even his supporters are taken aback at the proclamation, but soon they begin worshipping him, giving him more 'energy'. Using the energy of his newfound worshipers, he creates a new angel, Yeshuah, who he proclaims his son and heir.

The lines are drawn and sides taken, mostly because of Abdiel's machinations, and fuck ups.

Satan will not acknowledge Yaweh's dishonest claim to Godhood, and neither will Yaweh abandon it, so the conflict continues.

Abdiel, now on the run from both sides, begins digging a hole in the wall of Heaven, but Mephistopheles finds and strangles him before he can finish the work. Satan's hosts gain the ascendency in the battle. Seeing that defeat is inevitable, Yaweh decides to destroy Heaven by expanding the hole that Abdiel had been deepening. Yet when the wall of Heaven is breached, flooding Heaven with cacoastrum, Yaweh finds that he cannot allow himself to be destroyed by the cacoastrum; it is not in his nature.

Yeshuah, seeing an opportunity to triumph over Satan's forces, sacrifices his life by leaping into the breach and directing the rupture towards the hosts of Satan, devastating them. Meanwhile, as the rebels fight for Heaven, Satan is captured but with the help of Beelzebub and Mephistopheles leaves Heaven; his followers join him in the abyss and create a third stronghold: Hell.

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


It's funny that when something unpleasant is supposed to happen; it is supposed that the personality type cannot be found that seeks it. The greater a challenge; The greater the personality that is attached/compelled to/by it.

Somewhere along the line of time it has been inferred that dissolution of self is the greatest fear instead of the greatest gift.

But that's my five cents. For all I know my heroes are brutally stupid and my assumptions are in error.

And now the time to build the fifth stronghold 5 d reality.

Cheers
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thankyou brazil for your honesty,,

maybe the reason your mind draws you toward ignorative behaviour,, is because the posts shared are already known too you,, as your spiritual advancement currently already precedes others,,

positions held in mind,, as known truths,, sometimes within many collective minds,, as are apparent in this forum,, feel repetative in essence,, when viewed as an already foregone conclusion,,


and therefore the resulting happenstance,, is not dissimular too learning a lesson twice,, which in itself is annoying,, and leads one too a passive blas'ey skiptive reading experience,,

this too,, is an experience with many posts,, for this ac,,

however,, somtimes it proves more prudent too simply,, measure twice,, and cut once,,

should the delightful result of desired perfection be sought,,

as such a truth by learning in humbleness,, may exist within all men,,

much love,,
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afternoon dion,,

a question was put by your goodself earlier,, pertaining too this ones thoughts,, regarding the speeding up,, or faster etheral feeling many may,, or may not,, be experiencing,,

one would have too agree with those on the fast route,, a quickening of sorts is seemingly apparent,,

though time is perceived as linear,, this basic concept only exists for the purpose of simple understanding,,

for instance the gregorian calender,, is soley designed for wage payment ect,, and day to day living,,

a linear mathematical ruler for time,, is controlled by the increments,, obvious in essence by straight forward design,,

the perception of time,, however,, and people feeling as though they are going faster,, is ironically,, simply a mirror echoed speeding up,, in the spiritual awareness of all,,

because our perception is only of the linear nature of time,, we concivably just confuse the two,,

time within this life experience is controlled,, yet outside of this experience,, time does not exist,, all is now tommorrow and yesterday,,

yet organic shells die,, so the owenus,, is relatively perceived primarily as linear,, birth,, age death,,

the spiritual quickening being felt by many,, makes this organic linear time experience seem as though we are speeding up,,

so,, the response is,, yes we are and no we are not,,

simultaniously,,

(thats not intended fence sitting,, lol)

much love,,
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thankyou brazil for your honesty,,

maybe the reason your mind draws you toward ignorative behaviour,, is because the posts shared are already known too you,, as your spiritual advancement currently already precedes others,,

positions held in mind,, as known truths,, sometimes within many collective minds,, as are apparent in this forum,, feel repetative in essence,, when viewed as an already foregone conclusion,,


and therefore the resulting happenstance,, is not dissimular too learning a lesson twice,, which in itself is annoying,, and leads one too a passive blas'ey skiptive reading experience,,

this too,, is an experience with many posts,, for this ac,,

however,, somtimes it proves more prudent too simply,, measure twice,, and cut once,,

should the delightful result of desired perfection be sought,,

as such a truth by learning in humbleness,, may exist within all men,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 20528682


Shine on, friend! hf
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Everybody got a little no body in em.
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That's right,everybody can relate to what is being said on many levels on this forum or else the message would not be planting as many fruitful seeds as it has been accomplishing...good call

MJ engedi en`eng`ko
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GD2BALIVE is now a Sovereign
The update that I am sure some were waiting to hear...

As of the 6th day of the 7th month, A.D. 2012 gd2balive is a Sovereign once again and now WE move in forward motion,to be,to bear,bring forth,to carry,come,+ let HER drive,to be driven,to endure,go on,lay the ground work,to lead,to move in a forward motion,reaching and rushing to uphold all the Nations,Kindreds,Tongues and the Peoples who desperately call out for help from the bondage that they have had enforced upon them...

Its a good Time to turn away before its too late,notice has been given and WE are in forward motion...

Notification of the Seal Ring is hereby given: A ring engraved with a Seal; A signet Ring

Signet means; A Seal,especially that used by a Sovereign in Sealing Documents under sign-manual...

I am Marty en`eng`ko engedi,the root and offspring of David and I am the seed of Jesse...

Rev 5:5

WE WILL be seeing each other soon when the appointed Time comes,count on it and hope WE are more Merciful than you have been to the Nations,the Kindreds,the Tongues and all the Peoples who YOU have enslaved with your wanton greed of Power and Money...

WE say this; when those who are given to rule over the Nations are no longer in love with power and they once again are in Love with Love itself,than WE WILL know peace,period...

There will be some subject matter that WE will discuss that won't be easy butt if you are humble and not haughty it may go better for you than expected...

Grace,Peace and ALWAYS Mercy,

Love,

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...
In my dream I just had a man came across a huge bridge...I swam out to bridge and the man gave me a yellow note which had the words "Lost Lords" on it; the was some other words but it looked like high pressure writing that passed through the paper.
...

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~~night of 7/20, hopeful dream fragment sync~~

There was a quality of light as if underwater on a sunny day. A young boy was singing in the most ethereal voice, and as he sang the words were impressed upon yellow paper - like Post-It notes but larger. I remember only one line of his song:

I know that God is good because I can be good too.
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This is really interesting.

I wonder How many others have had ther yellow note pad?
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the road back into Memory
is paved with yellow notes
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In my dream I just had a man came across a huge bridge...I swam out to bridge and the man gave me a yellow note which had the words "Lost Lords" on it; the was some other words but it looked like high pressure writing that passed through the paper.
...

 Quoting: Æ 20249713


~~night of 7/20, hopeful dream fragment sync~~

There was a quality of light as if underwater on a sunny day. A young boy was singing in the most ethereal voice, and as he sang the words were impressed upon yellow paper - like Post-It notes but larger. I remember only one line of his song:

I know that God is good because I can be good too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20272547


This is really interesting.

I wonder How many others have had ther yellow note pad?
 Quoting: Dark Stranger 3003754


the road back into Memory
is paved with yellow notes
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I wonder How many others have had ther yellow note pad?

Probably only one person would be the answer to your question...

I have one in my possession butt its not like normal paper,ITS LIKE CLOTH PAPER TAPESTRY and its regular school sized around 8" x 11"...on it there is a Red Star,a Yellow Star,a green globe that resembles a planet like Terra Nova{earth} and enscripted on it is a saying...

I in Red

Luv in Pink I think

EDEN in blue

ALWAYS ND 4Eva in purple, the color of AGAPE LOVE,Everlasting Love...

I also have one more and the cloth paper tapestry is not the same size as the other,this one is smaller and the color of Purple /Red similar to AGAPE LOVE color and on it are two words that begin with an H in the color of Silver

And I have figured out what the meaning of the symbols are butt I have to admit that I have had some helps in figuring it out,mostly by a very beautiful Soul with Blue Green eyes who has an AGAPE LOVE within her whole being

Marty en`eng`ko engedi

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argue for your limitions and they will be yours. fight for your write to be right. or be left all you like

what is all encompansing has no west, no north, no south no east.

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Sorry, Inclinations of conciousness are given ordinate and sub-ordinate position and as conciousness entangles it furthers to co-ordinal and simultaneous or constrained orders (inline). Thus, there is very much direction. May one wish to ascribe it to perfect unconcious balance or imperfect concious awareness.

You may see it as you wish, but with no order or direction there is no need to communicate. All is silent and positionless.

I get more sage from a dehydrated packet than I smell in your proclamations.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


Not in the least. I am citing base communication theorems which arise when the silence has been lifted and the zoetrope spins with the one conciousness looking out through the myriad holes. Pulling concious through and from and enwrapping it in the fall.

There are no "you"-shaped holes in Heaven.

To know illusions you must realize the basis of communication, both intra and interpersonally. Organs of sentience are the rules of the game in their inhibitions and their qualities.

Interpretation.. as atonomy is establishes its seperation of the all encompansing mind.
What is creating limitation is the disconnect in awareness that has arisen between internal and external sensorium. It is the mandate giving shape to being and understanding the silence.

True. with the exception of mandatate. Illusion to percieved shape.
When I am no more than the choices I make, I only exist in those reflections and those that others make and echo and perhaps extend.

Conciousness is in itself defined as a communication of position. Silent and positionless is the mere infinity that the whole is construed before the foot needs to be set tapping again and the madness I so love ensues.



Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


does what is all encompassing have a position? a place, a where? Word association. It's not inspired. Just twisted. A tool of the ego (mine) being used here to point beyond yours. "The foot that is set trapping."

you're asking for validation of your observations. You're asking me to judge you, because you value the investment you've made in developing your views. You identify with them. And when I declare them invalid, you take it personally.
You are not your opinions. Your validity isn't conditioned on theirs. And their validity is suspect when you take offense to having them questioned.

This world is NOT ruled by symbols. It's ruled by BELIEF in them!

When illusions vanish, what remains is what was hidden by them.

The Truth is beyond being symbolized.

look at your name
dion
just the letter g short of
doing

Do you want me to confirm your conclusions? Conform to your conclusions? Conform to your confusions? Comfort your confessions? Or confront your obsessions?

i do apprecaite your words and the time you took to write them.. however, i will not argue for with you for your limitations but only apeal that you move past them.


Not all mental activity is thought. Some of our conversations would likely promote reflex instead.

Where there is light, not all eyes will open. Nor will some minds open to thought which isn't their own.

Those who thirst will find someone to draw water for them. But some will merely use it to rinse their mouths out, and spit it back out.

however, i do not think you are as one of theose who uses scope. (pun, for a scope sees closely, but it gives one tunnel vision.)

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Sorry, Inclinations of conciousness are given ordinate and sub-ordinate position and as conciousness entangles it furthers to co-ordinal and simultaneous or constrained orders (inline). Thus, there is very much direction. May one wish to ascribe it to perfect unconcious balance or imperfect concious awareness.

You may see it as you wish, but with no order or direction there is no need to communicate. All is silent and positionless.

I get more sage from a dehydrated packet than I smell in your proclamations.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


Not in the least. I am citing base communication theorems which arise when the silence has been lifted and the zoetrope spins with the one conciousness looking out through the myriad holes. Pulling concious through and from and enwrapping it in the fall.

There are no "you"-shaped holes in Heaven.

To know illusions you must realize the basis of communication, both intra and interpersonally. Organs of sentience are the rules of the game in their inhibitions and their qualities.

Interpretation.. as atonomy is establishes its seperation of the all encompansing mind.
What is creating limitation is the disconnect in awareness that has arisen between internal and external sensorium. It is the mandate giving shape to being and understanding the silence.

True. with the exception of mandatate. Illusion to percieved shape.
When I am no more than the choices I make, I only exist in those reflections and those that others make and echo and perhaps extend.

Conciousness is in itself defined as a communication of position. Silent and positionless is the mere infinity that the whole is construed before the foot needs to be set tapping again and the madness I so love ensues.



Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


does what is all encompassing have a position? a place, a where? Word association. It's not inspired. Just twisted. A tool of the ego (mine) being used here to point beyond yours. "The foot that is set trapping."

you're asking for validation of your observations. You're asking me to judge you, because you value the investment you've made in developing your views. You identify with them. And when I declare them invalid, you take it personally.
You are not your opinions. Your validity isn't conditioned on theirs. And their validity is suspect when you take offense to having them questioned.

This world is NOT ruled by symbols. It's ruled by BELIEF in them!

When illusions vanish, what remains is what was hidden by them.

The Truth is beyond being symbolized.

look at your name
dion
just the letter g short of
doing

Do you want me to confirm your conclusions? Conform to your conclusions? Conform to your confusions? Comfort your confessions? Or confront your obsessions?

i do apprecaite your words and the time you took to write them.. however, i will not argue for with you for your limitations but only apeal that you move past them.


Not all mental activity is thought. Some of our conversations would likely promote reflex instead.

Where there is light, not all eyes will open. Nor will some minds open to thought which isn't their own.

Those who thirst will find someone to draw water for them. But some will merely use it to rinse their mouths out, and spit it back out.

however, i do not think you are as one of theose who uses scope. (pun, for a scope sees closely, but it gives one tunnel vision.)

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Not in the least. Do as you would.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


After a few futile months of this, you'll just give up and go back to killing them and harvesting their souls. It's more fulfilling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20524457


not at all, what is the first condition of love.
love is patient.

love is a doctor.

you have me confused with someone else.. it is a common mis conception.

You do not yet grasp the immensity of the concept, so I will spell it out for you.

There is only One Creator, United with One Creation, perfectly Whole and Undivided, impossible to change or damage. If it were possible to change or damage Creation, it would be possible to damage God.

In the absence of Creation — that is, if God were Alone — there would be nothing unlike God. That's a tautology. If there's nothing unlike God, then anything Created would have to be created to be Like God. Perfection doesn't create its opposite. Unity doesn't create division. Innocence doesn't create guilt.

yet, what is created can dream of speration and division. that is this place is.
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The feeling that comes when I read your post, is that of familiarity, beyond that of words. I think what we are beginning to remember is not just the past or the present but the future. You may ask "how does one remember the future?"Quite simple really, it is a concept, it doesn't exist.The observer is rather all that is. There is no distinction between the observer and the observed, except when out mind begins to label things one or the other.

I can feel it, at this very moment. The power this concept holds.
Thank you greatly for posting this thread.
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The mind remembers an imagined past.
The mind also forgets an imagined present, and has to recreate it, moment-by-moment. both creating and for getting instantly. the now is a still shot cycled with the mind of the observer as it creates through image in nation what it wants to reflect back to it. labeling its images as it dictates to precieve motion. creating the simulation of past present and future through stimulated reflex.

whala virtual reality.
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A small portion of my lucidity the other night.

07/04/2012

Dark skies, heavy, and thick. Like most of my dreams, the environment is darker, no sun, but everything is easy to see. There is no unfocused view. Everything is crisp and clear and vibrant, the ultimate in high definition.

I can bring the sun, though it does tend to disrupt the entire environment at times. When I try, it usually results in vast storm fronts that clean out the darkness. Heavy winds scour the dark; a cleansing through punishing the landscape.

Looking up into the greyness of the cloud covered sky, I sigh in boredom. Twitch my finger without raising my arm, then draw a spinning circle pattern and the deep massive clouds begin their rotation. It is becoming so easy. Perfectly timed spinning circle pattern of my finger with an intention of vortex sends the cloudscape spiraling, a massive swirling, churning construct. A hole forms in the center, vast in distance, and when looking up through it, the inner cloud walls of the tunnel reach through infinitely.

A shudder in the sky, upper left. Gateway slams open and a bearded figure appears. "Stop this immediately!" he bellows down at me. Through my intention, the cloud vortex increases in strength.

Rage causes the figure standing amongst a backdrop of slate grey high in the clouds - far from my vortex - to rain a violent shredded sphere of flashing lights in my direction. I don't bother stopping it. Instead, I make the space between draw downwards, heavy, and the sphere plunges down to smash against the hard surface ground.

Frustrated, he blasts a different shape and color down, again a pulsing push of strong energies. I repeat, and once again the energy slams into the space between us. The man is furious. A stream of blue flickers to life, many hand-spans wide. Instead of making the air heavy, I pull the air (space) back on itself and invert the blue stream which crashes back into the figure.

It 'froze' him in time.

perhaps 30 minutes later, 3 women come up to me, and ask me to release the elderly man. He is still suspended in the sky, locked within his own gate. Though the three do not look like 'witches', it is obvious that they are. Emotional feelings flow off of each, embodying promises of threats and damage to my being if I do not do as they say.

I smile, and release the man with a thought. Dark figures immediately begin pulling themselves from the earth. Corpses, though with no sign of decomposition. I bend down to one, a child of perhaps 11, and hug him fiercely. Rest and love and release are the feelings embodied in my intentions. He weeps in love and lays down to rest. I continue with the others. When I am done, there is no sign of the old man in the sky.

The three witches follow me, harassing, continuing the threats of eternal harm. My relaxed composure confuses the young women, and they quiet down. I stand my ground, as their threats mean absolutely nothing to me. It is obvious they are not used to this.

They turn their backs to me, and walk off into the darkness, though everything can be seen.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 07/27/2012 12:39 PM
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


Not in the least. I am citing base communication theorems which arise when the silence has been lifted and the zoetrope spins with the one conciousness looking out through the myriad holes. Pulling concious through and from and enwrapping it in the fall.

There are no "you"-shaped holes in Heaven.

To know illusions you must realize the basis of communication, both intra and interpersonally. Organs of sentience are the rules of the game in their inhibitions and their qualities.

Interpretation.. as atonomy is establishes its seperation of the all encompansing mind.
What is creating limitation is the disconnect in awareness that has arisen between internal and external sensorium. It is the mandate giving shape to being and understanding the silence.

True. with the exception of mandatate. Illusion to percieved shape.
When I am no more than the choices I make, I only exist in those reflections and those that others make and echo and perhaps extend.

Conciousness is in itself defined as a communication of position. Silent and positionless is the mere infinity that the whole is construed before the foot needs to be set tapping again and the madness I so love ensues.



Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


does what is all encompassing have a position? a place, a where? Word association. It's not inspired. Just twisted. A tool of the ego (mine) being used here to point beyond yours. "The foot that is set trapping."

you're asking for validation of your observations. You're asking me to judge you, because you value the investment you've made in developing your views. You identify with them. And when I declare them invalid, you take it personally.
You are not your opinions. Your validity isn't conditioned on theirs. And their validity is suspect when you take offense to having them questioned.

This world is NOT ruled by symbols. It's ruled by BELIEF in them!

When illusions vanish, what remains is what was hidden by them.

The Truth is beyond being symbolized.

look at your name
dion
just the letter g short of
doing

Do you want me to confirm your conclusions? Conform to your conclusions? Conform to your confusions? Comfort your confessions? Or confront your obsessions?

i do apprecaite your words and the time you took to write them.. however, i will not argue for with you for your limitations but only apeal that you move past them.


Not all mental activity is thought. Some of our conversations would likely promote reflex instead.

Where there is light, not all eyes will open. Nor will some minds open to thought which isn't their own.

Those who thirst will find someone to draw water for them. But some will merely use it to rinse their mouths out, and spit it back out.

however, i do not think you are as one of theose who uses scope. (pun, for a scope sees closely, but it gives one tunnel vision.)

( )
 Quoting: G 1105951


Not in the least. Do as you would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


be who you are. limitless! all encompassing.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


After a few futile months of this, you'll just give up and go back to killing them and harvesting their souls. It's more fulfilling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20524457


not at all, what is the first condition of love.
love is patient.

love is a doctor.

you have me confused with someone else.. it is a common mis conception.

You do not yet grasp the immensity of the concept, so I will spell it out for you.

There is only One Creator, United with One Creation, perfectly Whole and Undivided, impossible to change or damage. If it were possible to change or damage Creation, it would be possible to damage God.

In the absence of Creation — that is, if God were Alone — there would be nothing unlike God. That's a tautology. If there's nothing unlike God, then anything Created would have to be created to be Like God. Perfection doesn't create its opposite. Unity doesn't create division. Innocence doesn't create guilt.

yet, what is created can dream of speration and division. that is this place is.
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It's all about questions, as they lead to choice. Don't assume eternity to be anything but a second with all perception/awareness focused upon it.

Without this (In the form of outside or apart (which materially cannot exist)), there is no perfection, innocence, hatred or motivation.

There are no wrong answers.


And yes, Perfection compels it's opposite. Otherwise there would be pristine silence eternal.
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Not in the least. I am citing base communication theorems which arise when the silence has been lifted and the zoetrope spins with the one conciousness looking out through the myriad holes. Pulling concious through and from and enwrapping it in the fall.

There are no "you"-shaped holes in Heaven.

To know illusions you must realize the basis of communication, both intra and interpersonally. Organs of sentience are the rules of the game in their inhibitions and their qualities.

Interpretation.. as atonomy is establishes its seperation of the all encompansing mind.
What is creating limitation is the disconnect in awareness that has arisen between internal and external sensorium. It is the mandate giving shape to being and understanding the silence.

True. with the exception of mandatate. Illusion to percieved shape.
When I am no more than the choices I make, I only exist in those reflections and those that others make and echo and perhaps extend.

Conciousness is in itself defined as a communication of position. Silent and positionless is the mere infinity that the whole is construed before the foot needs to be set tapping again and the madness I so love ensues.



Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


does what is all encompassing have a position? a place, a where? Word association. It's not inspired. Just twisted. A tool of the ego (mine) being used here to point beyond yours. "The foot that is set trapping."

you're asking for validation of your observations. You're asking me to judge you, because you value the investment you've made in developing your views. You identify with them. And when I declare them invalid, you take it personally.
You are not your opinions. Your validity isn't conditioned on theirs. And their validity is suspect when you take offense to having them questioned.

This world is NOT ruled by symbols. It's ruled by BELIEF in them!

When illusions vanish, what remains is what was hidden by them.

The Truth is beyond being symbolized.

look at your name
dion
just the letter g short of
doing

Do you want me to confirm your conclusions? Conform to your conclusions? Conform to your confusions? Comfort your confessions? Or confront your obsessions?

i do apprecaite your words and the time you took to write them.. however, i will not argue for with you for your limitations but only apeal that you move past them.


Not all mental activity is thought. Some of our conversations would likely promote reflex instead.

Where there is light, not all eyes will open. Nor will some minds open to thought which isn't their own.

Those who thirst will find someone to draw water for them. But some will merely use it to rinse their mouths out, and spit it back out.

however, i do not think you are as one of theose who uses scope. (pun, for a scope sees closely, but it gives one tunnel vision.)

( )
 Quoting: G 1105951


Not in the least. Do as you would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


be who you are. limitless! all encompassing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


I would rather eternally chase with the wind in my face and creating visions from the scents I imagine to be in the air.

I would just prefer others imaginations to throw away visions of artificial competition and join in the pointless chase. Wherever their imaginations may lead them.
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that is because you are dependent on the senses of your body. i am not.

you percieve me as being special. or having the idea that i am special. i am not.

i am no different then you and you are no different then me. these are all variations are asimilies found with the construct of mind that views seperation and atonomy. are you not jacked into this dream called "life" as much as i am? yet reason fails you because you depend on what is represented with the data collected by a body you claim as you.

however you are no the body in which you posses.

and you argument is in valid.

you view black and white, usa and canada. you still are of the perception that numbers hold weight as universal calculations. that the universal language is math. which it is not. its mere structure is laughable. it is constructed by symbols that validate or forumulate to assimilate meaning from other symbols. all inventions of man by man for man.

you still view this place as a place. yet it is not.

i used the word faster, because the illusion of limitation desolving restores what is. having the appearance of being faster. yet it is not.

do you not know your own words dion???

All is silent and positionless.

feel, wish, do, think, reflect, reflex. it STILL doesn't defer, your true value. only your percieved value of yourself in a seperated atonomous state... keeping you limited.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


After a few futile months of this, you'll just give up and go back to killing them and harvesting their souls. It's more fulfilling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20524457


not at all, what is the first condition of love.
love is patient.

love is a doctor.

you have me confused with someone else.. it is a common mis conception.

You do not yet grasp the immensity of the concept, so I will spell it out for you.

There is only One Creator, United with One Creation, perfectly Whole and Undivided, impossible to change or damage. If it were possible to change or damage Creation, it would be possible to damage God.

In the absence of Creation — that is, if God were Alone — there would be nothing unlike God. That's a tautology. If there's nothing unlike God, then anything Created would have to be created to be Like God. Perfection doesn't create its opposite. Unity doesn't create division. Innocence doesn't create guilt.

yet, what is created can dream of speration and division. that is this place is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


It's all about questions, as they lead to choice. Don't assume eternity to be anything but a second with all perception/awareness focused upon it.

Without this (In the form of outside or apart (which materially cannot exist)), there is no perfection, innocence, hatred or motivation.

There are no wrong answers.


And yes, Perfection compels it's opposite. Otherwise there would be pristine silence eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10790883


The opposite of perfection of course being questioning or seeking or whatever active verbiage you would put upon it. In this motivating activity even innocence is lost as the definition of perfection is harmed by the questing glance (first flickerings of awareness).

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