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its a great change that is now being experienced within all of us,, the nobody is a rethorical archytype, created deliberately as a joke and yet it is a now real life manifestation, sudo-created, by the energy of those participating,,
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Viruses gonna virus.
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ohyeah
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shrike,, if the virus be known, it edits, seruptitiously, and consisely ,with obvious partentional motive,,


thank you ss, the smile was an agreement to your kind words,,oh and clappa guy,, lol,

clarity, should be clear,, lest we bend the light,,

no offence shrike,,

much love,,
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The seed of truth.
We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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The seed of truth.
 Quoting: John Goz


John Goz, good to see you here.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Thanks,

It all starts somewhere and moves.

We can work to uncover the tracks.
We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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would anyone require an address?

this sight im viewing is,, nor ever was,, yet was looped, like the rabbit choosing the snare,,

could an enlightened soul, be so foolish, yet the truths still echo,,?,,

fear is anothers paradigm,, yet here he resides,, the fool,,

blind in full site,,

deliberate participation,, the end in sight,,

a majigtian born,, of necessity,,

much love,,
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would anyone require an address?

this sight im viewing is,, nor ever was,, yet was looped, like the rabbit choosing the snare,,

could an enlightened soul, be so foolish, yet the truths still echo,,?,,

fear is anothers paradigm,, yet here he resides,, the fool,,

blind in full site,,

deliberate participation,, the end in sight,,

a majigtian born,, of necessity,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 16273255


Explain that a bit. There are many gaps in your post.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Hey SS, are you Bahai?
I'm Down, Are You?
Swinging on Spirals (OP)

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Hey SS, are you Bahai?
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No. I don't consider myself of any faith or religion, or in any form of specific spiritualism, or any specific form of philosophy. Though, others may see patterns of all of the above in my words.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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would anyone require an address?

this sight im viewing is,, nor ever was,, yet was looped, like the rabbit choosing the snare,,

could an enlightened soul, be so foolish, yet the truths still echo,,?,,

fear is anothers paradigm,, yet here he resides,, the fool,,

blind in full site,,

deliberate participation,, the end in sight,,

a majigtian born,, of necessity,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 16273255


Reality gives birth to the rightous.
We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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we should talk amongst ourselves,, we would not wish the true net to no any truths,,

thats why im here,, to talk privately,,

im sure your aware,,

,, fire away,,

i know all truths by design,,

its what i do,,

lets be frank,,
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you do know thats why im going along with this masquerade,,

dont you,,?

i wish to talk with you,,

much love
John Goz

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The language of change is the one spoken through time.
We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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lol,, yea the gym could be good,,

yet i know all about you ,,

every detail,,
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lol,, yea the gym could be good,,

yet i know all about you ,,

every detail,,
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really?.....how so?
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use you imagination,,
it aint rocket science,,

you have much fear,,
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Ride the wave and be not knocked off by fear.
We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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does anybody here know anything or heard of anything involving right brain left brain switch that may be associated with a transformation or a trigger or portal for a transformation to take place involved with or created by this archetype???
SS or anybody else here know of anything like this?
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the term lame comes from a earliest acient record in hebrew/ latin term,, from the word simular sounding to strathupelous, meaning, stopping/slow,

,, im neither of those terminoligies,,

are you attacking me?

im aware of this masquarade,, shall i just continue?

much love,,
Swinging on Spirals (OP)

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does anybody here know anything or heard of anything involving right brain left brain switch that may be associated with a transformation or a trigger or portal for a transformation to take place involved with or created by this archetype???
SS or anybody else here know of anything like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16298624


Yes. It has to do with merging the duality aspects. Male/female, yin/yang, etc.

Apollo would call this becoming a hermaphrodite of spirit.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Nobody/Moshiach/Kalki etc, will be obvious to all and not by his claims but his deeds. Sun Tzu was said to claim he could tell which commander would win a battle based not on weaponry or tactics but who had the higher moral authority. Initiates were aware of the oneness of the universe; in duels participants believed that Creation itself would side with whomever was in the right. The universe expects the good to win. Why was Alexander invincible? Was it only superior tactics and arms or was his desire to raise the consciousness of the world truly pure? Why was Musashi considered "peerless"? Hmmm...
 Quoting: Mr Poopra


Because they fought as one unassailable unit without thought for personal safety. No thought of failure was invited.
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Esoterically speaking, Alexander could not be defeated because no human commander he faced held higher moral authority. His mission was divine. During the Siege of Tyre, the oracles had the statue of Apollo (patron saint of Tyre) chained to it's base as they had visions of the God leaving the city and joining Alexander.
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so he did his job.. just like hitler... everyone plays a role, good or bad
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does anybody here know anything or heard of anything involving right brain left brain switch that may be associated with a transformation or a trigger or portal for a transformation to take place involved with or created by this archetype???
SS or anybody else here know of anything like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16298624


Yes. It has to do with merging the duality aspects. Male/female, yin/yang, etc.

Apollo would call this becoming a hermaphrodite of spirit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals

ok thnx
but that sounds more internal.
what I was told in a vague way is that there will be a sort of external switch on a mass scale but temporary.
very hard to explain really, but the only thing I can relate it to is how illusionists work for instance.
I know it sounds silly or stupid & science fiction like but its the way it was sort of explained to me.
like someone spinning you around & distorting everything while changes are made so you dont notice then return your normalcy or equilibrium back when complete, Im not saying thats exactly it, but thats how it seemed when explained to me. I was just hoping to get more info on it or find out if anyone here has heard of the same thing
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does anybody here know anything or heard of anything involving right brain left brain switch that may be associated with a transformation or a trigger or portal for a transformation to take place involved with or created by this archetype???
SS or anybody else here know of anything like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16298624


Yes. It has to do with merging the duality aspects. Male/female, yin/yang, etc.

Apollo would call this becoming a hermaphrodite of spirit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals

ok thnx
but that sounds more internal.
what I was told in a vague way is that there will be a sort of external switch on a mass scale but temporary.
very hard to explain really, but the only thing I can relate it to is how illusionists work for instance.
I know it sounds silly or stupid & science fiction like but its the way it was sort of explained to me.
like someone spinning you around & distorting everything while changes are made so you dont notice then return your normalcy or equilibrium back when complete, Im not saying thats exactly it, but thats how it seemed when explained to me. I was just hoping to get more info on it or find out if anyone here has heard of the same thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16298624


I understand you. These are the areas that we are unsure about. We can equate this with a simple thing, such as losing the power of the grid. If all electricity went down world-wide, it would make the 'meek' inherit the earth. It would render the superficial construct of materiality non-existent. It would make those that are closer to their 'spirits' (not religion), better able to cope.

I am not saying this is the end game, though I have researched it extensively. In m mind now, there is much more to such a transition.

Here is a good way to understand things.

Imagine walking down a road, that is level. In front of you are obstacles. You cannot see the obstacles, except for the on e in front of you. This is the path of humans for a long time.

Now...rise above. Move and think laterally. We begin to see all the obstructions that have plagued us for so long. Damn, they are so easy to see from a different vantage point. But, when within that straight level line, they were always blocked from sight.

Walk the straight, level line and remain in the box...or rise above, move laterally, and the box dissolves, and its illusion...never was.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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for purpose of this masquerade i just made this up,,


all realities, are about to bleed into each other,,

the realms of your own , will have physical essence in this place,, but the limitations age grounded in truths,,,

the work youve achieved thus far will be negliable, in essence,,

sides will become un-important, moreso thoughts of such triumphs,, when dimensions bleed, as these shall,, a common goal is all that can, and must be achieved,,

those more evolved must give their knowledge over to those less evolved,

yet not with hidden agenda, as has been done thus far,,

those of less humble spiritual belieifs must see this,, though, as before they remain masucline and blind,,

their desstiny lies within one human, whom forgives them,, sounds like ,, hmm star wars huh,,

yet he is the witness,, for him to forgive, is the only way for them and humanity in it self, lest all be destroyed,, tarnished with the same brush,,

simple huh,, like my reality, thus stupendiously created,,


i enjoyed that fabrication,,


much love,,
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Thnx OP
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I don't know S on S if this helps your cause or not but here goes:

To be nobody is to be.
It is the epitome of being.
The essence of.


One cannot define what is undefinable in oneself just like one can not define the divine because in essence we are all part of the divine.

One must realize they are no one, no one thing, nobody, no body. This is the or close to the threshold event during the dark night of the soul. The key is to practice being this nobody before (humble human BEing) before AND after.

Trying to define the unidentifiable is akin to trying to pick next weeks lottery numbers. Its futile. It serves no real purpose in the end other than to keep one enslaved to that which one really isn't. We are all co-divine just like we co-create. We are not singularly God (which is what ego deludes many to think on some level) but a part of a greater all that is. Our problem is self. We identify with ourselves too much to our detriment and to all things detriment as a result. This is as a result of belief and fear and it's manifestations. We THINK we know. We BELIEVE we know. Do we really???? How do we prove ANYTHING really? With numbers, patterns, words, symbols, feelings??? I wish... All can be wrong. We know nothing really, the rest is speculation. And if there was something to know could we properly explain it in human terms?? We can try.

Perhaps there are things that are truths that ring true to our soul being. Perhaps there are some things we can safely theorize with our mathematics. Perhaps there are some patterns we can discern. Perhaps there are some feelings we share that can be described. In the end though there is God and love and the rest is illusion it has been said. The fear and the beliefs we hold are products of our thinking ego mind. Eliminate self thru fully emptying the vessel so we are nobody. The inner work and outer practices are what are used to achieve this.

Our ego thinking mind is NOT divine per se. In the absence of this ego thinker is the divine mind. To continually access the divine mind one must REMAIN the nobody. When one thinks he knows he surely does not for only the divine mind knows the truth. One must continually die to oneself over and over again. "The cup must remain empty. Many are overflowing." The divine is both matter and spirit and an all encompassing spirit at that. When awakened to the spirit or when having a spiritual experience whether transient or more permanent notice the unknown, undefinable nature of the divine.

We are all one and all divine. Be the nobody always. Do not think you are somebody. Once you do you are trapped in ego. One is nameless because the divine is nameless. The divine is no body, nothing named but an undefinable all encompassing eternal infinite everything.

Look at soul groups and monads. We are all linked. We are not individual bodies but interlinked spirits on various levels.


Food for THOUGHT S on S? Is that what you were THINKING? Perhaps a "Mr. Nobody Wizard" will come along with huge energy and lift the veil ... Or perhaps they will come in the interstellar cloud or the cloud or sun will transform us... too... For myself I AM not waiting around to experience the loving blissful sovereign state of being that is our birthright. Got to empty that cup...

This is my "theory" and attempt to explain the unknowable of it all. At the moment of my awakening I realized I really knew nothing, that I was a nothing in the scheme of things, that as I went into the dark abyss I was nobody, there was no me, I was nothing (very weird feeling and yes scary to an extent but more so when I first decided to give up all I was to the almighty.) I had surrendered myself completely and utterly. Identity wiped - and then in came the higher self to breathe (literally and figuratively) new life into me. The cosmic reset button was hit and every aspect of my being had changed - life became heaven on earth (do the inner work and outer practice continually is my advice to get there and STAY there.)

I hope this helps.

P.S.
Best advice I received when I asked a Buddhist Teacher what I needed to do to reach the enlightened no mind state again - "LOVE…just BE LOVE."

Best advice from spirit at the moment of my awakening. "Do not WORRY what other people THINK about you." Think about that for a second - how destructive is thinking and fear - that is the epitome of it right there...

Sorry for the long post S on S. Thanks for shedding light on this archetype. I really think it needs exploring.
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Nice......Very simple if you think about it......Yet some would find this state of mind impossible.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Blue Skies,

I am curious WHY you think they would find this state of mind impossible?

Yes there are those who are believed to potentially be born (incarnated) as unable to tell the truth but this is the minute minority. Almost every human being on this planet can do this work and have heaven on earth here. We don't have to stay in some cave meditating 20 hours a day. We can function in today's society as awakened beings. We have to be more diligent in maintaining our boundaries and energies but it is still s funtional state. The problem I and others see is the necessity to keep the energies in alignment (think chakras here folks) thru diligent use of the outer practices and continuing the inner work.

What happens to be many seekers (including this one) is we become ungrounded. The level of energies obviously are increased and though initially one is grounded due to the level of humility necessary (nobodyness - got rub it in AE :)) it seems too many become ungrounded.
The solution would seem to lie in not only the humility aspect (inner work) but also in using grounding practices.

These grounding practices are necessary in todays world for everyone due to our physical selves not in contact with the earth itself. Put simply we don't touch the ground. Walking barefoot on the ground daily is the solution in many cases but obviously not always feasible. This leaves us with guided meditations, use of sound, possibly color and grounding mats we can sleep on, and crystals or other stones as some possibilities.

In addition utilizing breathwork, yogic exercises (the tibetans, etc.), dietary practices, bodywork (rolfing, etc.) to keep the energy centers and body in alignment would appear to be great aids to maintain this state. Too often we miss the importance of maintenance of our physical vehicle in spiritual matters. If the body or its energy centers are impacted negatively then this impacts the spirit. BODY, MIND, SPIRIT. In essence one could say this is all one. I think its so easy for us to forget we have a physical body when we are working on emotions, the mind or traveling around the dimensions. Our home and our work is here on this planet too. For many of us it is our responsibility to bring the light to the EARTH plane so to speak.

It's easy to be in denial about our bodies and the planet. We are ashamed here. We don't have to be if we are being the solution.

We can effectively have heaven on earth here. Many have shown us the way. Personally I used the 12 steps of AA and the no mind process like Buddhism in combination. Many paths can work. It is all our choice.

I hope this helps.
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you do know thats why im going along with this masquerade,,

dont you,,?

i wish to talk with you,,

much love
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"The man is on fire" (...)
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I don't want to go thru 7 pages of thick text. But this thread seems like it can explain me what is the nobody.
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I don't want to go thru 7 pages of thick text. But this thread seems like it can explain me what is the nobody.
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I could explain some to you.
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.

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