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Message Subject The Developing Archetype - No Music Vids
Poster Handle Blue Skies
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I don't know S on S if this helps your cause or not but here goes:

To be nobody is to be.
It is the epitome of being.
The essence of.


One cannot define what is undefinable in oneself just like one can not define the divine because in essence we are all part of the divine.

One must realize they are no one, no one thing, nobody, no body. This is the or close to the threshold event during the dark night of the soul. The key is to practice being this nobody before (humble human BEing) before AND after.

Trying to define the unidentifiable is akin to trying to pick next weeks lottery numbers. Its futile. It serves no real purpose in the end other than to keep one enslaved to that which one really isn't. We are all co-divine just like we co-create. We are not singularly God (which is what ego deludes many to think on some level) but a part of a greater all that is. Our problem is self. We identify with ourselves too much to our detriment and to all things detriment as a result. This is as a result of belief and fear and it's manifestations. We THINK we know. We BELIEVE we know. Do we really???? How do we prove ANYTHING really? With numbers, patterns, words, symbols, feelings??? I wish... All can be wrong. We know nothing really, the rest is speculation. And if there was something to know could we properly explain it in human terms?? We can try.

Perhaps there are things that are truths that ring true to our soul being. Perhaps there are some things we can safely theorize with our mathematics. Perhaps there are some patterns we can discern. Perhaps there are some feelings we share that can be described. In the end though there is God and love and the rest is illusion it has been said. The fear and the beliefs we hold are products of our thinking ego mind. Eliminate self thru fully emptying the vessel so we are nobody. The inner work and outer practices are what are used to achieve this.

Our ego thinking mind is NOT divine per se. In the absence of this ego thinker is the divine mind. To continually access the divine mind one must REMAIN the nobody. When one thinks he knows he surely does not for only the divine mind knows the truth. One must continually die to oneself over and over again. "The cup must remain empty. Many are overflowing." The divine is both matter and spirit and an all encompassing spirit at that. When awakened to the spirit or when having a spiritual experience whether transient or more permanent notice the unknown, undefinable nature of the divine.

We are all one and all divine. Be the nobody always. Do not think you are somebody. Once you do you are trapped in ego. One is nameless because the divine is nameless. The divine is no body, nothing named but an undefinable all encompassing eternal infinite everything.

Look at soul groups and monads. We are all linked. We are not individual bodies but interlinked spirits on various levels.


Food for THOUGHT S on S? Is that what you were THINKING? Perhaps a "Mr. Nobody Wizard" will come along with huge energy and lift the veil ... Or perhaps they will come in the interstellar cloud or the cloud or sun will transform us... too... For myself I AM not waiting around to experience the loving blissful sovereign state of being that is our birthright. Got to empty that cup...

This is my "theory" and attempt to explain the unknowable of it all. At the moment of my awakening I realized I really knew nothing, that I was a nothing in the scheme of things, that as I went into the dark abyss I was nobody, there was no me, I was nothing (very weird feeling and yes scary to an extent but more so when I first decided to give up all I was to the almighty.) I had surrendered myself completely and utterly. Identity wiped - and then in came the higher self to breathe (literally and figuratively) new life into me. The cosmic reset button was hit and every aspect of my being had changed - life became heaven on earth (do the inner work and outer practice continually is my advice to get there and STAY there.)

I hope this helps.

P.S.
Best advice I received when I asked a Buddhist Teacher what I needed to do to reach the enlightened no mind state again - "LOVE…just BE LOVE."

Best advice from spirit at the moment of my awakening. "Do not WORRY what other people THINK about you." Think about that for a second - how destructive is thinking and fear - that is the epitome of it right there...

Sorry for the long post S on S. Thanks for shedding light on this archetype. I really think it needs exploring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8362036

Nice......Very simple if you think about it......Yet some would find this state of mind impossible.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Blue Skies,

I am curious WHY you think they would find this state of mind impossible?

Yes there are those who are believed to potentially be born (incarnated) as unable to tell the truth but this is the minute minority. Almost every human being on this planet can do this work and have heaven on earth here. We don't have to stay in some cave meditating 20 hours a day. We can function in today's society as awakened beings. We have to be more diligent in maintaining our boundaries and energies but it is still s funtional state. The problem I and others see is the necessity to keep the energies in alignment (think chakras here folks) thru diligent use of the outer practices and continuing the inner work.

What happens to be many seekers (including this one) is we become ungrounded. The level of energies obviously are increased and though initially one is grounded due to the level of humility necessary (nobodyness - got rub it in AE :)) it seems too many become ungrounded.
The solution would seem to lie in not only the humility aspect (inner work) but also in using grounding practices.

These grounding practices are necessary in todays world for everyone due to our physical selves not in contact with the earth itself. Put simply we don't touch the ground. Walking barefoot on the ground daily is the solution in many cases but obviously not always feasible. This leaves us with guided meditations, use of sound, possibly color and grounding mats we can sleep on, and crystals or other stones as some possibilities.

In addition utilizing breathwork, yogic exercises (the tibetans, etc.), dietary practices, bodywork (rolfing, etc.) to keep the energy centers and body in alignment would appear to be great aids to maintain this state. Too often we miss the importance of maintenance of our physical vehicle in spiritual matters. If the body or its energy centers are impacted negatively then this impacts the spirit. BODY, MIND, SPIRIT. In essence one could say this is all one. I think its so easy for us to forget we have a physical body when we are working on emotions, the mind or traveling around the dimensions. Our home and our work is here on this planet too. For many of us it is our responsibility to bring the light to the EARTH plane so to speak.

It's easy to be in denial about our bodies and the planet. We are ashamed here. We don't have to be if we are being the solution.

We can effectively have heaven on earth here. Many have shown us the way. Personally I used the 12 steps of AA and the no mind process like Buddhism in combination. Many paths can work. It is all our choice.

I hope this helps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1668110


I guess I think some are filled with such anger and hatred for the way they live or are treated. That it would be very hard for them to change. 1dunno1
 
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