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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/08/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good evening dion,, how are the improvements coming along?,, Quoting: nobody 19318998 new projects are always insperational,, thus seems to be your'e vocation,, by a non-yet-natural desire to be a do'er of things that need doing,, much love,, Much Improved. I'm just making a bustle in a hedgerow of myself. Nothing like red cedar Tar for aromatics. Just deciding on what direction to head in next. |
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nobody User ID: 19318998 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | were,, the weather,, ever to be great enough here,, outside would be a choice of prevalence,, however the perpetual rain is disconcerting at best,, so the fresh cut grass aromatic pungence,, as delightful as it is,, is merely now a fragrant memory,, paitence,, and other previous,, yet deliberately alluded mundane chores,, are now the indoor path of choice,, yet never by direct choice,,lol,, as being outside,, is always the prefered option,, however,, its always good too have a challenge,, in or out,, regardless,, much love,, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/08/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | were,, the weather,, ever to be great enough here,, outside would be a choice of prevalence,, however the perpetual rain is disconcerting at best,, so the fresh cut grass aromatic pungence,, as delightful as it is,, is merely now a fragrant memory,, Quoting: nobody 19318998 paitence,, and other previous,, yet deliberately alluded mundane chores,, are now the indoor path of choice,, yet never by direct choice,,lol,, as being outside,, is always the prefered option,, however,, its always good too have a challenge,, in or out,, regardless,, much love,, ahhhh poor you, I think of the proliferation of choice gourmand fungii and depressive leanings that indulge wild intellectual flights and the peaty goodness imbued to libations. To the public house with thee......bedlam, bedlam I do declare ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/08/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting how a stilleto in the shadows of a darkened alley can have so many vagaries of interpretation. Heels seeking a high, or height of heel, the outcome is sure to eventuate a whoaman. Or at natures most treacherous; A whoa man, The world's largest freestanding transvestite. ;) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19369721 United States 07/08/2012 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just reading a seemingly unrelated article about Lyran origins of all things and came across a random snippet that in its own way summed up some of this thread..with all the catch words:wildcard, mirror, catalyst, beings becoming self aware, etc. ;) (probably old news to a majority of you but I felt I should share in case anyone might find it interesting ----apologize for wall of text---- How Miracles Originate People worship a god, or pray to a god, whether it's the image of a god or it's a Buddha or even back then...they tap in and get results. The god is just something that they made. So are those gods just like connectors to an energy that one was able to tap into? When one prays to a god and - let's say the prayer is answered. The person needs that figure because at that time in their lives they do not realize that what they are praying to is a mirror. They are only looking at themselves. So it serves a function for them to do that. But the evolutionary process is such that eventually there will be a recognition that you're only looking in the mirror and seeing yourself. Here's an interesting thought: Let's say that someone makes up a god and they call it Bob, the god of Bob. And enough people begin believing in Bob. Because of the belief in Bob, Bob is created. Bob has the choice of becoming self-aware, but he doesn't have to. He can exist only as a projection of the people who believe in him, in which case it is like a two-dimensional image. To the people who believe in him, Bob is very real, and you could prove the existence of Bob. Evolution always has wild cards. This is a case where you may actually be able to watch the birth of a new entity, because through the natural evolution of Bob's existence Bob may become self-aware. If that is the case, he becomes a true being and not just a projection of those who believe in him. So for all intents and purposes those who believe in Bob will know that Bob exists, because Bob will be very real for them. And there really is no difference that he is a projection. Do you follow? Well, actually, we're all projections of some sort of another aren't we? We were talking about the dimensional infusion. Sometimes people ask, "What happened before that?" Before the dimensional infusion you can liken that to your being one big Bob. Bob became self-aware, and the self-awareness was so exciting and so igniting that in his excitement he burst and fragmented. That's one way of looking at it. But that is how the creation of an entity can occur. But then you can go one step further and ask, where did Bob come from? He came from itself. Well, it's like the devil then, too. The devil has a lot of power because he's been given it. That's the only reason why. So your church is being very real when they say the devil exists. But does the devil have an existence outside of it? Well, I would say that he has power over those that believe in his power. They give it to him. They put their power in his hands. How does that relate to miracles such as the waters of Lourdes, St. Therese, St. Francis of Assisi and Bernadette? Miracles are self-generating. Miracles occur because the seeker believes they need something and can't allow themselves to give them what they need. Therefore the miracle will come in the form that is most comfortable. For the individuals of a certain religion, miracles come in the form they're comfortable with. For some of the more fundamentalist Christians, it comes in the form of faith healing. It's what you believe in. Miracles do not happen outside of you. You are the generator of them. It's up to you whether you want to create it so it look like you have nothing to do with it. Let's say that Bernadette or St. Francis had nothing to do with working any of these miracles outside of the fact they are the mirror... They're the mirror. They are also the channel through which the energy may flow. Those whom you have deified may actually be the channel for energy to flow through for other people rather than themselves. But if you're just a sick person and you have a miracle, it's for you rather than your channeling for others. Do you see what we mean? Well, I healed myself in a very interesting situation and when I asked about it, I was told that it was my soul energy that healed me. *Evidently your soul energy heals you when your ego is looking in the other direction, because the ego doesn't believe in that sort of thing.* So if we take full responsibility for, let's say, fragments of Bob and we want to be the catalyst to do this thing, then the process is for us to get rid of our egos so that we can then put out the fires in Kuwait and help the people of Bangladesh and stop crack babies from being born addicted - all of that. There's some sort of process about getting the ego out of the way and allowing ourselves to be the channel for healing on this level. To sort of somehow focus all these people who do have serious beliefs in miracles so that their energy can flow and join ours and create some kind of... Exactly. There's nothing wrong in believe in miracles. You can coexist totally harmoniously with fundamentalist Christians who believe in miracles if you both allow the ego to step out of the way. They will create the miracles seemingly outside of them and you will create the miracles for yourself. And you both accept each other. It's not a matter of belief; it's a matter of allowing. That's the whole key. There is enough space for a coexistence to take place for all energies, all races. |
!nf!n!9on User ID: 19407442 South Africa 07/09/2012 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just reading a seemingly unrelated article about Lyran origins of all things and came across a random snippet that in its own way summed up some of this thread..with all the catch words:wildcard, mirror, catalyst, beings becoming self aware, etc. ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19369721 (probably old news to a majority of you but I felt I should share in case anyone might find it interesting ----apologize for wall of text---- How Miracles Originate People worship a god, or pray to a god, whether it's the image of a god or it's a Buddha or even back then...they tap in and get results. The god is just something that they made. So are those gods just like connectors to an energy that one was able to tap into? When one prays to a god and - let's say the prayer is answered. The person needs that figure because at that time in their lives they do not realize that what they are praying to is a mirror. They are only looking at themselves. So it serves a function for them to do that. But the evolutionary process is such that eventually there will be a recognition that you're only looking in the mirror and seeing yourself. Here's an interesting thought: Let's say that someone makes up a god and they call it Bob, the god of Bob. And enough people begin believing in Bob. Because of the belief in Bob, Bob is created. Bob has the choice of becoming self-aware, but he doesn't have to. He can exist only as a projection of the people who believe in him, in which case it is like a two-dimensional image. To the people who believe in him, Bob is very real, and you could prove the existence of Bob. Evolution always has wild cards. This is a case where you may actually be able to watch the birth of a new entity, because through the natural evolution of Bob's existence Bob may become self-aware. If that is the case, he becomes a true being and not just a projection of those who believe in him. So for all intents and purposes those who believe in Bob will know that Bob exists, because Bob will be very real for them. And there really is no difference that he is a projection. Do you follow? Well, actually, we're all projections of some sort of another aren't we? We were talking about the dimensional infusion. Sometimes people ask, "What happened before that?" Before the dimensional infusion you can liken that to your being one big Bob. Bob became self-aware, and the self-awareness was so exciting and so igniting that in his excitement he burst and fragmented. That's one way of looking at it. But that is how the creation of an entity can occur. But then you can go one step further and ask, where did Bob come from? He came from itself. Well, it's like the devil then, too. The devil has a lot of power because he's been given it. That's the only reason why. So your church is being very real when they say the devil exists. But does the devil have an existence outside of it? Well, I would say that he has power over those that believe in his power. They give it to him. They put their power in his hands. How does that relate to miracles such as the waters of Lourdes, St. Therese, St. Francis of Assisi and Bernadette? Miracles are self-generating. Miracles occur because the seeker believes they need something and can't allow themselves to give them what they need. Therefore the miracle will come in the form that is most comfortable. For the individuals of a certain religion, miracles come in the form they're comfortable with. For some of the more fundamentalist Christians, it comes in the form of faith healing. It's what you believe in. Miracles do not happen outside of you. You are the generator of them. It's up to you whether you want to create it so it look like you have nothing to do with it. Let's say that Bernadette or St. Francis had nothing to do with working any of these miracles outside of the fact they are the mirror... They're the mirror. They are also the channel through which the energy may flow. Those whom you have deified may actually be the channel for energy to flow through for other people rather than themselves. But if you're just a sick person and you have a miracle, it's for you rather than your channeling for others. Do you see what we mean? Well, I healed myself in a very interesting situation and when I asked about it, I was told that it was my soul energy that healed me. *Evidently your soul energy heals you when your ego is looking in the other direction, because the ego doesn't believe in that sort of thing.* So if we take full responsibility for, let's say, fragments of Bob and we want to be the catalyst to do this thing, then the process is for us to get rid of our egos so that we can then put out the fires in Kuwait and help the people of Bangladesh and stop crack babies from being born addicted - all of that. There's some sort of process about getting the ego out of the way and allowing ourselves to be the channel for healing on this level. To sort of somehow focus all these people who do have serious beliefs in miracles so that their energy can flow and join ours and create some kind of... Exactly. There's nothing wrong in believe in miracles. You can coexist totally harmoniously with fundamentalist Christians who believe in miracles if you both allow the ego to step out of the way. They will create the miracles seemingly outside of them and you will create the miracles for yourself. And you both accept each other. It's not a matter of belief; it's a matter of allowing. That's the whole key. There is enough space for a coexistence to take place for all energies, all races. you observe in the mirror for too long, you realize objects in the mirror are uglier/more attractive(ego) than they appear and you decide to do something about it or not the mirror is a kind of 'fourth wall' which keeps you trapped on the 'stage' [link to en.wikipedia.org] i once heard something interesting: the reason men loose moral and become men with low moral fiber is because someone once told them that all the world's a stage |
nobody User ID: 19318998 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | within 9 months all truth will be perceived,, by all,, for all,, the event so obvious,, the event,, oh the event,, a grotest truth born within and as a result hiden by lies,, a gradual awakening of even the most deeply sleeping sheep,, the shepards not of the caring love required for a flock,, exposed,, in true light,, the shadows fading,, whom appointed these shepards through falsehoods?,, whom indeed,, the mirror of truth their reflection alone,, they the builders of falsehood,, shown as above so below,, hiding below,, yet from true reflection impossible,, lest truth be a lie,, nor will the stains of the bleeding heart wash from the whore within her tower,, the chequered board stained with the blood of selfish falsehood,, no part to play has the fool,, yet never a fool needed to point towards the path greator by love alone,, a boy,, a man,, a sinner,, a truth of flesh regarded as a fool,, though the dog upon his heel barks at the fool,, his harmonics sweet as a future based on truth,, 9 months the maji-ition be born,, the birth of a truth,, when will you view my house? source,, much love,, |
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nobody User ID: 19318998 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | indeed,, what will the event be?,, only a guess from within would defer such a guess toward another altering outome,, and therefore towards the regard of paitience as a virtue,, a blind man cannot see,, yet feel,, he can,, many know,, for its already happened,, this is felt,, when one feels the truth it can be seen,, as an event-uality,, please excuse the cryptive answer,, some things just simply have to happen before they can be believed,, as irritating as that may be,, lest the outcome be prevented,, by thought of knowledge alone,, the event not of a palatable nature,, need occur,,though alone preferred not,, for the birth of truth,, the exposure by the smoking gun held,, a neccessity of chance,, though not through the want of good,, yet the greed of those of falsehood,, the event orchistrated by their own hand will be their end,, their condemnation by their own deed,, then the truth be born,, much love,, |
song light User ID: 10214481 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | indeed,, what will the event be?,, Quoting: nobody 19318998 only a guess from within would defer such a guess toward another altering outome,, and therefore towards the regard of paitience as a virtue,, a blind man cannot see,, yet feel,, he can,, many know,, for its already happened,, this is felt,, when one feels the truth it can be seen,, as an event-uality,, please excuse the cryptive answer,, some things just simply have to happen before they can be believed,, as irritating as that may be,, lest the outcome be prevented,, by thought of knowledge alone,, the event not of a palatable nature,, need occur,,though alone preferred not,, for the birth of truth,, the exposure by the smoking gun held,, a neccessity of chance,, though not through the want of good,, yet the greed of those of falsehood,, the event orchistrated by their own hand will be their end,, their condemnation by their own deed,, then the truth be born,, much love,, Wow that gave me a vision! A new sun rising, it was a different kind of light that reached the flowers, and they slowly unfolded. song light (((+&-))) |
12DnAHelix User ID: 204556 United States 07/09/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does ''AETHER'' know about the 12 Aethers ??? In my notation it says there are 4 elemental groupings under color classifications: black (earth), white (air), red (fire), yellow (water) 4 elements Everyone thinks of ''Aether'' as the 5th element, this isn't quite correct; and in my notation the classification which aethers belong to is in the ''green'' wavelength. Essentially, ''Aether'' of which there appear to be 12 around a central conduit; are transmutative elementals. Does that make sense to anyone ?? And that 'aether' is what is inside a vacuum, that which a quanta is; as a filamentary tubule - essentially a container within which aether operates. My notes say not to trust the 12 aethers, trust not one singly; only trust their central commander. Central Commander: Uraeus Zuul Eph Maliemnh |
piser User ID: 11447095 United States 07/09/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last several pages of this thread brings this point to clarity. In most things we say and do, we understand it can be taken several ways even to our own way of understanding and thinking. Everyone is bringing something to this table, even the skeptics and the mockers. This discussion is a microcosm of our own thought process expanded to include all. If one does not participate, the the whole is found lacking or incomplete. Missing elements almost always concludes in faulty analysis and projections. The dynamics involved in exploring or searching is at best a very intuitive process coupled with sound intelligence and reasoning. Each brings their own strengths and weaknesses to the table, the sorting process is needed to cull what is the best course of thoughts and actions in pursue of bettering not only ourselves but the whole. Understanding the process necessitate the elimination of personal ego. Questioning and sharing comments is not being done to detract but to retain what is best for the whole and extract what will serve no purpose in proceeding. The manner in which one goes about this is strictly personal to themselves. Some are upfront and contesting, other feel more comfortable with subtlities, each serves a purpose. In the end, we most likely will not agree on everthing, but what is important is that all agree that the intent to create a free, dynamic, flexible archetype capable of incorporating and expanding all of the human potential is the greater goal. It is creating purpose, with intent. What purpose? Humanity. What intent? Avoidance of self destruction via ignorance, stupidity, greed, corruption etc...... |
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born backwards User ID: 11447095 United States 07/09/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what you see thus know ac is that human belief, following 5000 years + of recorded development, formed it`s entire development upon beliefs that are wrong Quoting: aether put simple, the universe they believed exists does not I think I can see where you are going. From my vantage I see knowing as static, in that knowing is static to a timeframe. At any particular time knowing can be accessed but is limited to the context. You probably are better equipped at describing thinking then myself, but thinking for me is an ongoing discovery and arranging of ones environment in order to proceed toward a sound if not only a partial conclusion. Cheers |
born backwards for a reason User ID: 11447095 United States 07/09/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC 11447095, this pertains to our discussion on Friday. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Consciousness is the spiritual awareness of Being, of all-knowing, all-power and all-presence. Thinking is electric. God's thinking is expressed by two-way moving wave extensions from consciousness, like a lever swinging up on a fixed fulcrum, or like waves extending from the calm sea. Thought expression is dynamic. Thinking belongs to the electrically sensed and conditioned vibrating universe of motion. The Self of man belongs to the static , invisible, conscious, unconditional universe of KNOWING. We express knowing in the dynamic, visible, electrically conditioned universe of sensation. Sensation is the electrical awareness of motion simulating the spiritual QUALITIES of the One Idea by creating image QUANTITIES of separate forms which seem to have substance. Consciousness is real. Sensation simulates reality through motion of interchanging lights, but the mirage of a city is not the city it reflects. ~Walter Russell, The Secret of Light sorry, qouted the wrong message. I think I can see where you are going. From my vantage I see knowing as static, in that knowing is static to a timeframe. At any particular time knowing can be accessed but is limited to the context. You probably are better equipped at describing thinking then myself, but thinking for me is an ongoing discovery and arranging of ones environment in order to proceed toward a sound if not only a partial conclusion. Cheers |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 07/09/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC 11447095, this pertains to our discussion on Friday. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Consciousness is the spiritual awareness of Being, of all-knowing, all-power and all-presence. Thinking is electric. God's thinking is expressed by two-way moving wave extensions from consciousness, like a lever swinging up on a fixed fulcrum, or like waves extending from the calm sea. Thought expression is dynamic. Thinking belongs to the electrically sensed and conditioned vibrating universe of motion. The Self of man belongs to the static , invisible, conscious, unconditional universe of KNOWING. We express knowing in the dynamic, visible, electrically conditioned universe of sensation. Sensation is the electrical awareness of motion simulating the spiritual QUALITIES of the One Idea by creating image QUANTITIES of separate forms which seem to have substance. Consciousness is real. Sensation simulates reality through motion of interchanging lights, but the mirage of a city is not the city it reflects. ~Walter Russell, The Secret of Light sorry, qouted the wrong message. I think I can see where you are going. From my vantage I see knowing as static, in that knowing is static to a timeframe. At any particular time knowing can be accessed but is limited to the context. You probably are better equipped at describing thinking then myself, but thinking for me is an ongoing discovery and arranging of ones environment in order to proceed toward a sound if not only a partial conclusion. Cheers A few years ago, I may have disagreed with knowledge or knowing being static. But, I have learned that this is, in all likelihood, most accurate. It is when our thoughts reflect on the information or knowing, or attempt expression of it, that it becomes locked within the 'timeframe' of linearity, and thus becomes part of dimension/movement/time. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 07/09/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks nobody, as are your impressions. My father used to kid me and tell me " ...... if you had half a brain, you'd be dangerous". I was never quite sure how to take that! "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
nobody User ID: 19318998 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all can be understood,, personalites echo,, regardless of their hiding,, such skill,, an attributted inditement,, to their dedication towards,, the cause,, one feels in complete ore and is tainted with redundancey to their dimensionless obviousness via and thoughout this facade,, many experienced,, as a puppet master,, can shed a light,, as a 'thumbs up' to a recognised truth,, when one knows all about another,, is one not expected too think the same of himself?,, yet some situations are deliberate,, past and present,, 'too kill a mocking bird',, or to catch it?,, only the end of the animal farm literacy could serve to rectify this example,, as a reality,, if only dion were here,, he'd know what to say,, only he alone could articulate without such obvious slight of mind,, tempered with the genious of an artist-mind,, dark cederwood,, ambiquious in flavour,, combined with the color born by instituted turkey umber,, with a dash red oaker,, pictures painted through the great mind of bernahrd,, in sence we trust,, excuse these musings as a stance requires apparent maintaining,, sarcasm the lowest form of wit,, much love,, |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does ''AETHER'' know about the 12 Aethers ??? Quoting: 12DnAHelix 204556 In my notation it says there are 4 elemental groupings under color classifications: black (earth), white (air), red (fire), yellow (water) 4 elements Everyone thinks of ''Aether'' as the 5th element, this isn't quite correct; and in my notation the classification which aethers belong to is in the ''green'' wavelength. Essentially, ''Aether'' of which there appear to be 12 around a central conduit; are transmutative elementals. Does that make sense to anyone ?? And that 'aether' is what is inside a vacuum, that which a quanta is; as a filamentary tubule - essentially a container within which aether operates. My notes say not to trust the 12 aethers, trust not one singly; only trust their central commander. Central Commander: Uraeus Zuul Eph Maliemnh that`s interesting, fells like a number of things interconnected 12 around 1 springs to mind in the form of the 12 "known/utilized" aethers/dimensions forming "around/from" the singular effect of 2 charge dimensions/2 magnetic fields the green wavelength feels like: For example, green is a color defined by a photon which has rotated exactly at a cubic 90 degrees. This this angle produces exactly a wave interference ‘shadow’ which is opposite to phase conjugate, and why every living plant (photosynthesis ) spits out / does not eat the green photon Quoting: observationso green is the visible effect of part of a proccess so this says: My notes say not to trust the 12 aethers, trust not one singly; only trust their central commander. Quoting: Helixwithout knowing the 2 (cause of cause) no sense can be made of the others is how your post feels Last Edited by aether on 07/09/2012 05:32 PM |