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$500,000 in stolen pathology equipment may have flesh eating substance in Florida

 
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05/28/2012 12:22 AM
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Not yet, no!

But my next post here:

Thread: Welcome to the beginning of the end

Will be the last.

Can't say when, not yet.
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I left you a question on that thread. Last post. Could you please answer for me on here or that thread. I live in AZ...I need some guidance to prepare. Thanks!
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I will keep my word in that thread, and answering here would be off topic.

AZ eh?

I am a few miles from the AZ line, in Utah now... lol

Don't be obsessed, In AZ there are a lot of safe places to escape to if needed.

Check the other thread occasionally, can't be exactly sure when that last post will happen.

Good luck.
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I understand. Just let me make sure I got this right...so escape and not bunker down at home...correct?
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As outlined in that thread, escape is the best option, when/if this all goes down.
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05/28/2012 12:23 AM
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Though few in number, some cases in which CJD was transmitted to patients from contaminated equipment have occurred. Florida Hospital workers were going through the process of properly disposing of the potentially contaminated equipment when it was stolen.

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05/28/2012 12:25 AM
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Check this shit out!

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05/28/2012 12:25 AM
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Dude, why is is always Florida?? Is there some sort of hidden doom vortex there?!
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scared I think you are on to something.
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05/28/2012 12:26 AM
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Has anyone read "Patient Zero" by Jonathan Maberry? In it the disease was a modified prion disease. No bueno.
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05/28/2012 12:28 AM
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This contaminant is LIKE mad cow disease...which eats the BRAIN, not the flesh...

However, flesh eating bacteria is a concern, brain-eating is a concern, humans eating flesh is a concern...

our grandparents did not have to deal with this, even our parents didn't have to be too concerned about this kind of thing either...

now people are so afraid kids can't even dig in the dirt...

I am trying to help start a garden at the preschool and some of the admin. are really afraid...about germs.

Keep your immune system up, keep your minerals up, keep your body detoxed as much as possible, less crap in...less crap to detox from....

we are being poisoned from our food, our water, our air which makes us suseptable to this diseases.

enough for now.
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05/28/2012 12:28 AM
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Re: $500,000 in stolen pathology equipment may have flesh eating substance in Florida
Why does it say "substance" when it could've been more specific and said "bacteria"?

Couldn't "a substance that could eat away at human skin" and "flesh-eating bacteria" be two different things?
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Yes actually. Maybe this is more radioactive waste inappropriately disposed of, but they don't want to alarm people that much (and implying it's flesh eating bacteria may seem less alarming).

The gov't is very careful to keep nuclear sentiment high.

Thanks so much for pointing that out. I'm very interested now in what this is.

Any confirmation it's bacteria after all?
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05/28/2012 12:30 AM
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they violated OSHA laws and several others


It is ambiohazard and should be disposed of as such...


Red Bag at the very minimum....but this being such a deadly disease it seems quite negligent


and is it purposeful?
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05/28/2012 12:30 AM
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I found a link that called it "mad cow testing equipment"

Aren't prions different? confused...


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05/28/2012 12:31 AM
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Why does it say "substance" when it could've been more specific and said "bacteria"?

Couldn't "a substance that could eat away at human skin" and "flesh-eating bacteria" be two different things?
 Quoting: KoFFee_


This is how that works...

They encountered an unknown novel infection, and after testing they realized the inherent dangers, their best option (in panic mode) was to get rid of that equipment... They didn't intend for it to get stolen, but it did...

The original news story is cover made up in large part to provide enough information to hopefully get someone to contact them.

The "substance" could be anything, without having to be specific...

Other reports attempt to add more to the "substance"

The truth is actually never going to be made public.
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I understand. Just let me make sure I got this right...so escape and not bunker down at home...correct?


As outlined in that thread, escape is the best option, when/if this all goes down.


Thank you. hf
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05/28/2012 12:38 AM
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Re: $500,000 in stolen pathology equipment may have flesh eating substance in Florida
Whoever stole some discarded equipment from outside a pathology lab may have gotten more than he or she bargained for.

Orlando police say the equipment, worth about $500,000, is contaminated with a substance that could eat away at human skin.

A pickup hauling a trailer pulled up to Florida Hospital Center for Diagnostic Pathology, 2855 N. Orange Ave., on May 3 and took the equipment from an enclosed area near a large garbage bin, police said. The theft was not reported until Friday, said St. Vince Ogburn, a police spokesman.

[link to articles.orlandosentinel.com]
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Virus don't give two shakes about what we think. they always find a way to survive.
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05/28/2012 12:40 AM
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"The majority of hospitals we consult with across the country elect to keep machinery and follow precautions when using it," said Clive Hamlin, lab director of the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center, at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, who consulted with Florida Hospital and oversaw the sample testing. "A few elect to go the disposable route. That is the most cautious approach."

Unless it falls into less-than-cautious hands.

The equipment thieves, Hamlin said, could be at risk of contracting the brain disease if they handle the equipment, then put their hands in their mouths, or if they get cut from a contaminated piece of the equipment.

[link to articles.orlandosentinel.com]
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05/28/2012 12:47 AM
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So let me get this straight...

They are putting equipment contaminated with flesh eating bacteria out back by the dumpster?

SERIOUSLY?

What the fuck?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


My first though too. Hopefully charges will be filed against the idiots responsible for putting the equipment out in the open without sterilizing it first.
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That's the thing though, they may have put the stuff out there, because the bio-hazard waste disposal is more expensive than regular disposal. But there is no way in HELL anyone would have admitted to that. To do so, would put them at HUGE liability.

This is some kind of coverup. Can anyone say Augie? I don't really follow that stuff. But my mind is entertaining some pretty weird shit right now.
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05/28/2012 12:48 AM

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WOAH!

REMEMBER THIS?



YEAH! LISTEN FROM 0:50 !!!

FLESH EATING !!!

JUST SAYIN ...

bump THANKS OP!
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This is a joke/hoax from the Onion website.... not real....
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I'm well aware of that, just saying how ironic...

Sorry, I should have made that more clear, cheers!
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Oh! LOL Just wanted to let you know, some people have seen this and didn't know it was fake. It was a good one though, I have to give them that~! Cheers to you too! hf
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05/28/2012 12:56 AM
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well shit. now what? stay away from Florida?zombieszombieszombies
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Why does it say "substance" when it could've been more specific and said "bacteria"?

Couldn't "a substance that could eat away at human skin" and "flesh-eating bacteria" be two different things?
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Hi Koffee! Crazy huh? I thought the same thing...
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05/28/2012 01:01 AM
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well shit. now what? stay away from Florida?zombieszombieszombies
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Well, the "isolated case" of mad cow in that dairy cow was in California

So I would say "stay away from US beef and cow milk products"

Which you really should be anyway after Fukushima.

Yes, I practice an abundance of caution...and yes, I'm very healthy as a result :) I recommend eating NZ lamb.
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Why does it say "substance" when it could've been more specific and said "bacteria"?

Couldn't "a substance that could eat away at human skin" and "flesh-eating bacteria" be two different things?
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Hi Koffee! Crazy huh? I thought the same thing...
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Hello starrynytes,

Now that the articles are pointing to Mad Cow Disease, I'm wondering if the flesh-eating bacteria would've been the lesser of two evils.
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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Hey you guys, I live in Tallahasee, FL. Thats about, 4 hours away from Orlando...i had some really weird things happen to me lately, the most recently of which is that someone dumped about 30 pairs of disposal gloves right in front of my house, and in the parking lot next to my car....

this was yesterday evening, while i was out...i returned home and saw all that, and kinda got freaked out cause of all the flesh eating bacteria stories lately actually....

reading THIS just kinda makes it even worse lol....so thanks for the paranoia fuel.
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05/28/2012 01:11 AM
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These are the symptoms of the disease on the equipment:

The first symptom of CJD is rapidly progressive dementia, leading to memory loss, personality changes and hallucination s. This is accompanie d by physical problems such as speech impairment, jerky movements (myoclonus), balance and coordination dysfunction (ataxia), changes in gait, rigid posture, and seizures. The duration of the disease varies greatly, but sporadic (non-inherited) CJD can be fatal within months or even weeks.....

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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05/28/2012 01:12 AM
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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05/28/2012 01:18 AM
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Hey you guys, I live in Tallahasee, FL. Thats about, 4 hours away from Orlando...i had some really weird things happen to me lately, the most recently of which is that someone dumped about 30 pairs of disposal gloves right in front of my house, and in the parking lot next to my car....

this was yesterday evening, while i was out...i returned home and saw all that, and kinda got freaked out cause of all the flesh eating bacteria stories lately actually....

reading THIS just kinda makes it even worse lol....so thanks for the paranoia fuel.

 Quoting: snillozikim


Just don't touch 'em.

Almost certainly entirely unrelated but you should never touch suspicious stuff, especially if it looks medical-ish.
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05/28/2012 01:18 AM
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Going to be amusing watching the karmic payback as their body parts start falling off.

Give it a few weeks....they will be on the nightly news.


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From what i've read, not all of it really works like that, goes inside not out.. as into vital organs.. you won't hear about it on the nightly news. Oh and add Alabama to the list. There could be no opened wound at all where the infection starts.. from what i understand, a person may have some very small open cut, or prier wound, even an ingrown toe nail, it enters there an could travel, then start spreading any where, unless proper medicines are given it spreads to the organs and eats them..does start right below the skin somewhere on the body, but can and does spread inward. amputation to stop the spread is also an option if it's not to late... Crazy freaky stuff~
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These are the symptoms of the disease on the equipment:

The first symptom of CJD is rapidly progressive dementia, leading to memory loss, personality changes and hallucination s. This is accompanie d by physical problems such as speech impairment, jerky movements (myoclonus), balance and coordination dysfunction (ataxia), changes in gait, rigid posture, and seizures. The duration of the disease varies greatly, but sporadic (non-inherited) CJD can be fatal within months or even weeks.....

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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dementia, personality changes and hallucinations?

So maybe that face-eating guy is related to this, after all.
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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I think they were scared to have it in their office.

I don't know if I believe that they were ever going to dispose of it properly.

THEY PUT IT IN A PUBLIC PLACE!

How messed up is that!!

So many scientists with NO ETHICS these days.

Why didn't just one person stand up and say, "hey, we can't put other people at risk like that" ???
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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prions can't be heated sterile.
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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prions can't be heated sterile.
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Yup, no amount of heat can kill them. But they should never have left it out there like they did.

Put it in "quarantine" like you would a contagious patient, at least.

Anyone know if ANYTHING is known to kill prions? What did they do with all those dead mad cows after the outbreak in UK/France?
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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prions can't be heated sterile.
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So, to elaborate, if incinerated the ash, steam going into the air is also infected. Happens with deer that have this. Incineration isn't smart.
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Why couldn't they incinerate some of the equipment or get it sterlized.
Yuck!
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prions can't be heated sterile.
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So, to elaborate, if incinerated the ash, steam going into the air is also infected. Happens with deer that have this. Incineration isn't smart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15359896


This thing/bacteria is alive.. burning it would really be the only way to kill it..for sure..





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