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Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???

 
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bc the DHS r hiding the fact that there real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or they wouldnt of blocked the site
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I don't care if any of this is real or not. All I want to know is if only 5% of the sea creatures have been discovered, then 95% have not.....how would you know that? until you know what 100% is, you can't know what 5% is. For all we know, they could find 5 more animals in the sea and that's it.
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Makes you think what else is the government hiding
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It must be true then.
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can someone answer this please. is this a sick joke or what?

[link to www.believeinmermaids.com]
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the seizer doesnt seem to be fake. but check it out for yourself. its listed on here. look carefully.



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As others previously stated, the website being "seized"is a fake. When you go to the website, the top of the tab still have the "name". If you go to bodog.com, torrent-finder.com, firstrowsports.tv, the tabs state "this has been seized by ICE"
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very strange indeed!
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The seizure page looks bogus...
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Um no, its the same one they always use Noob.
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Um yes, its fake you fucking moron. Look at the source code before acting like a tool.
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'media/img/mermaids_web.jpg'

That is NOT how the DOJ names their graphics. THey redirect to THEIR OWN servers. God you people are fucking sheep.
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did u see the show they had so much evidence and photage how can u not believe that mermaids dont exsist
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Here's why the D.O.J. and D.H.S. seized the site. hope it clears up some of your rather uninformed arguments.

[link to www.irs.gov]

9.1.3.4.6 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §286 - Conspiracy to Defraud the Government with Respect to Claims

Title 18 USC §286 makes it a crime to enter into an agreement, combination or conspiracy to defraud the United States or any Federal agency by obtaining or aiding to obtain the payment or allowance of any false, fictitious or fraudulent claim.

In a prosecution under 18 USC §286, the government must prove that the defendants agreed to engage in a scheme to defraud the government and knew that the objective of the scheme was illegal. The government must also prove that the conspirators agreed to defraud the government by obtaining the payment of false claims against the government. The government need not establish an overt act undertaken in furtherance of the conspiracy in order to prove a violation of 18 USC §286 because, unlike 18 USC §371 (discussed below), a 18 USC §286 conspiracy does not require an overt act. However, as a practical matter, the elements of proof in 18 USC §286 investigations generally do not differ from proof in 18 USC §371 tax investigations, because in most false claims conspiracy investigations the existence of the agreement will be proven by acts that were undertaken in furthering the conspiracy or in consummating the attempt to obtain payment of the claim.

9.1.3.4.7 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §287- False, Fictitious or Fraudulent Claims

Title 18 USC §287 prohibits making or presenting to a Federal employee, officer or agency any claim against the United States or any Federal agency with the knowledge that such claim is false, fictitious or fraudulent.

9.1.3.4.7.1 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §287- Elements of the Offense

The elements of the offense under 18 USC §287 are:

the defendant presented a claim against the Federal government the claim was false, fictitious, or fraudulent

the defendant knew that the claim was false, fictitious, or fraudulent

Courts have defined both the terms "false" and "fictitious" within the meaning of 18 USC §287 as "untrue when made, and then known to be untrue by the person making it or causing it to be made." The term "fraudulent" in this context has been defined to mean "known to be untrue, and made or caused to be made with the intent to deceive[.]

9.1.3.4.8 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §371- Conspiracy to Commit Offense or to Defraud the United States

Title 18 USC §371, the general Federal conspiracy statute, defines the crime of conspiracy as follows: "If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be [guilty of a felony].… If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor."

The criminal statutes in Title 26 of the USC do not include the crime of conspiracy. Therefore, tax-related conspiracies are generally prosecuted under 18 USC §371.
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
Amazing enough in the video above of the Mermaids in a large fish tank at a US Naval facility has the video end with a URL: www.believeinmermaids.com. Going to that website reveals the website has been seized by the DOJ and Homeland Security Investigations unit. The site looks like this:

Mermaids Website Seized by DOJ & Homeland Security

However, with further investigation and by looking at the Source Code of the website in question we can see this is more of a publicity stunt done by Discovery Channel and Animal Planet. The website’s tagging and descriptions on the source code reveal that is more for entertainment than an actual Department of Homeland Security or DOJ confiscation of a website. Things like the title, “Mermaids are Real � Real Evidence from Dr. Paul Robertson, NOAA researcher” and the title of the main DOJ Image, “Mermaid Legends-Mermaid Sightings-water creature” and the alt text of the image, “Mermaid legend is true, and there is proof of real live mermaids” make you believe that this site was keyworded to go along with the Mermaid’s Body Found series on Animal Planet.

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The body found



I too have had some strange happenings myself.After visiting or better yet trying to visit the site "believeinmermaids.com" I too got the message of seizure by the govt. but what happene next left me with a shutter about big brother.I then tried going to Youtube and proceeded to type in the website again in hopes for an explanation. When all of a sudden my computer started acting funky and giving me an error message before i could fully type in the link.....?It said windows explorer had a occured a problem and must shut down.. So basically some thing or some one was turning my internet off? Creepy right? So I even tried again the next day and the same thing happened.... but only on youtube and only when trying to type in the website "believe in mermaids.com". Has anyone else had this problem? I"m truly in disbelief that this happened and is still happeneing.
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07/16/2012 11:10 PM
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CRAZY
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gotta be a joke...

Probably a stunt by Animal Planet to get more followers for their TV show...

Last Edited by FBHO on 07/16/2012 11:55 PM
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1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

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can someone answer this please. is this a sick joke or what?

[link to www.believeinmermaids.com]
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....if these mermaids do exist, and after watching the show. we are technically killing our selfs. its just another race of human, that have evolved to their environment. like how every other race of human is. it to kill them, there is no point. i feel as though we should do something to save them. that's my opinion. and for the government to block this page. its because they had real evidence on this life form, why didnt they block a big foot page.? or something on the lines of that.? because they have no evidence, and it doesnt involve government. not saying bigfoot is real. and i dont know how the navy got away with killing hundreds of whales. the bull crap.
im not sure how i could save them. but i want to. nothing deserves to be mercifully and forcefully killed.
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The fbi didnt take it down.

[link to www.believeinmermaids.com]

Its an image being served by the webserver itself.

If the fbi seized it, it would have been a dns redirect.

poop
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Yep this person is correct. The FBI did not shut this down. The owner of the website simply used an image and put it as their webpage.
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Look at the title tag.... Why would DHS keep the title tags the same?

This is fake as hell and probably a publicity stunt,
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Did anyone stop to think that is what they wanted? For this to look as fake as possible. To have evidence supporting the fact that it was fake. What purpose would making something like this up serve?
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can someone answer this please. is this a sick joke or what?

[link to www.believeinmermaids.com]
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yes, it's a sick joke.
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I actually have the answer. The government and navy have been trying to keep this secret for a long time and what they want to keep secret stays secret. They have found bodies all over the world and have done autopsies on them but all we know is the government doesn't want us to know about this
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The seizure page looks bogus...
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Um no, its the same one they always use Noob.
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Um yes, its fake you fucking moron. Look at the source code before acting like a tool.
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Exactly, Discovery channel owns it.
This is are story.
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
Here's why the D.O.J. and D.H.S. seized the site. hope it clears up some of your rather uninformed arguments.

[link to www.irs.gov]

9.1.3.4.6 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §286 - Conspiracy to Defraud the Government with Respect to Claims

Title 18 USC §286 makes it a crime to enter into an agreement, combination or conspiracy to defraud the United States or any Federal agency by obtaining or aiding to obtain the payment or allowance of any false, fictitious or fraudulent claim.

In a prosecution under 18 USC §286, the government must prove that the defendants agreed to engage in a scheme to defraud the government and knew that the objective of the scheme was illegal. The government must also prove that the conspirators agreed to defraud the government by obtaining the payment of false claims against the government. The government need not establish an overt act undertaken in furtherance of the conspiracy in order to prove a violation of 18 USC §286 because, unlike 18 USC §371 (discussed below), a 18 USC §286 conspiracy does not require an overt act. However, as a practical matter, the elements of proof in 18 USC §286 investigations generally do not differ from proof in 18 USC §371 tax investigations, because in most false claims conspiracy investigations the existence of the agreement will be proven by acts that were undertaken in furthering the conspiracy or in consummating the attempt to obtain payment of the claim.

9.1.3.4.7 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §287- False, Fictitious or Fraudulent Claims

Title 18 USC §287 prohibits making or presenting to a Federal employee, officer or agency any claim against the United States or any Federal agency with the knowledge that such claim is false, fictitious or fraudulent.

9.1.3.4.7.1 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §287- Elements of the Offense

The elements of the offense under 18 USC §287 are:

the defendant presented a claim against the Federal government the claim was false, fictitious, or fraudulent

the defendant knew that the claim was false, fictitious, or fraudulent

Courts have defined both the terms "false" and "fictitious" within the meaning of 18 USC §287 as "untrue when made, and then known to be untrue by the person making it or causing it to be made." The term "fraudulent" in this context has been defined to mean "known to be untrue, and made or caused to be made with the intent to deceive[.]

9.1.3.4.8 (05-15-2008)
18 USC §371- Conspiracy to Commit Offense or to Defraud the United States

Title 18 USC §371, the general Federal conspiracy statute, defines the crime of conspiracy as follows: "If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be [guilty of a felony].… If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor."

The criminal statutes in Title 26 of the USC do not include the crime of conspiracy. Therefore, tax-related conspiracies are generally prosecuted under 18 USC §371.
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putin

Look at the page's source code. This should be enough to let you know that the seizure was bogus. You fell for a viral marketing campaign.
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
i agree that it looks fraud and intended for hyping up the show but wouldnt it be illegal to pose as a government agency?
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
I think they're just trying to get everyone all worked up. I think they faked the website being seized to cause excitement. Has anybody been on this website before it was blocked off? Also, if they really wanted to get rid of it, we wouldn't be able to find it at all, it wouldn't show up that they seized it. However, I do think it is possible that some kind of aquatic humanoid could exist. Who knows?
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Mermaids are known terrorists.
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Well Yah, they friggin lead ships into shallow waters so they sink, they make men crazy etc etc etc...

That should be more than enough evidence for a seizure warrant under the current administration.

Semper Fi
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Why would the government try to hide mermaids? What purpose is there in that?
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
I think they're just trying to get everyone all worked up. I think they faked the website being seized to cause excitement. Has anybody been on this website before it was blocked off? Also, if they really wanted to get rid of it, we wouldn't be able to find it at all, it wouldn't show up that they seized it. However, I do think it is possible that some kind of aquatic humanoid could exist. Who knows?
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Actually, that is exactly what shows up when they seize a URL.
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did anyone watch this fucking show? at the end they say the ONLY REAL PART OF THE PROGRAM WAS THE NAVY SONAR TESTING which beached the whales, dolphins, etc.

you can "see" the mermaid "come back to life" = CGI.
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The Government can do what they want to when they want to and however they want to...
So It's possible they put the image there themselves and fooled everyone like they always do...
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That's the cheesiest looking DHS stamp....did you see the canvas behind the shields?

seized seized et et.

sockpuppet What the hell do they want with a mermaid site?
We're better than you think...really.
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07/19/2012 01:51 AM
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Re: Um, why is believeinmermaids.com seized by DHS???
It's possible that the website said negative things against the US Navy about the sonar testing. The Navy denied that the cause of the whales and dolphins breaching was due to the sonar testing. So, if this website blamed them or simply worded a sentence the wrong way, the government could seize the site for conspiracy to incriminate said government. It may not be because they're trying to "hide" that mermaids might exist, it may just be about the navy incident. I don't see why they would care about a mermaid website other than that, again, why hide mermaids to begin with? With regards to the show, Discovery channel made a statement explaining the show was mostly science fiction with some basing in science and all footage was fake besides the footage depicting the breached whales and such. I personally believe the seizing of the website was falsified and is nothing more than a public hoax to create hype for the show. (Exactly what it has done.) Then again, it could be due to what I said above. Who knows? Nevertheless, I found the show engaging and extremely intriguing. I enjoy a good delve into scientific theory.
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Take a look at the source code of the blieveinmermaids.com index page.
It has search engine optimization in it for mermaids, government conspiracy etc.
This is pathetic.

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