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No Diamond Drill Bits No Aliens Cut The Holes In Ancient Hard Stone

 
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might as well post another thread instead of the mysteries going in to the nobody threads,lol...we have already discussed on GLP how stones were ground and recast into solid form again as statues,temples,and blocks that supposedly couldn't be moved...its because they were cast on site and the ones in the quarries and the paintings of hauling them were left to mislead from the ancient casting concrete process(wonder who done that,keep reading)...anyhoo,you cast stone rods,pour the liquid stone around them in the rubber tree rubber molds and before the stone re-hardens, you bow-saw the rods back out giving the illusion the holes were drilled from the outside in...no diamond drill bits and no ancient aliens,just chemistry from the plants that soften stone and crushed material reformed by those who pretend there are aliens and say humans dont have critical thinking skills...P.S. do you really think rubber balls were the only thing south american elders used rubber for before their science and navigational records were snatched by the Vatican's armored snake "gods"...PSS .the snake gods made it a habit of snatching any science/navigational records all over the globe...causing the civilizations to fall into ruins...and you wonder why pope caesar thinks he's representation of a messiah...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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...you mean angles dont ya,or this angel>please to meet you,hope you guess my name<,lol.dragon
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Yeah interesting theory I think has a lot going for it. I just finished reading a book called The Atlantis Enigma by Herbie Brennan, on page 44 is this:

Archaeologists excavating tumuli on New Caledonia and the Isle of Pines in the south-west Pacific, discovered more than 400 man-made cement cylinders, 40 to 75 inches in diameter and up to 100 inches long. These cylinders, the purpose of which is unknown, were speckled with silica and iron gravel. Carbon dating showed they could be as old as 13,000 years.

Annoyingly he doesn't give the source for this information but a few times in the book he has mentioned William R. Corliss so I'm guessing one of his books on archaeological anomalies (e.g. his Handbook of Puzzling Artifacts), which would have the primary source listed as Corliss was always careful to include that info.
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Yeah interesting theory I think has a lot going for it. I just finished reading a book called The Atlantis Enigma by Herbie Brennan, on page 44 is this:

Archaeologists excavating tumuli on New Caledonia and the Isle of Pines in the south-west Pacific, discovered more than 400 man-made cement cylinders, 40 to 75 inches in diameter and up to 100 inches long. These cylinders, the purpose of which is unknown, were speckled with silica and iron gravel. Carbon dating showed they could be as old as 13,000 years.

Annoyingly he doesn't give the source for this information but a few times in the book he has mentioned William R. Corliss so I'm guessing one of his books on archaeological anomalies (e.g. his Handbook of Puzzling Artifacts), which would have the primary source listed as Corliss was always careful to include that info.
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...they keep dropping the hints of threads i have already posted....thank you for confirmation on my threads.hf..P.S. you cant carbon date stone except when the original material was created,even if you could the material might be that old but the recasting back into solid wasn't that long ago.
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You make it sound like they were mixing something similar to concrete, but with crushed stone instead of sand?
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You make it sound like they were mixing something similar to concrete, but with crushed stone instead of sand?
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any crushed material would work with the plant chemical mixture...crystal skulls could be poured from crushed crystal and mixed with plants that soften stone and poured into molds and allowed to reharden solid again...Google "plants that soften stone south america" and read the story how a bird carries a plant to a rock cliff and uses it to soften the stone where it can peak out a hole for a nest...
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IF you think all those ancient stones were "Cut" you are a fool.


They were "Cast".


The Art of making stone is Alchemy.
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Unusual subject to use your disinformation skills on.

You have to ask yourself... why would this topic be subject to disinformation....

people are getting close to the answer.
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You make it sound like they were mixing something similar to concrete, but with crushed stone instead of sand?
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any crushed material would work with the plant chemical mixture...crystal skulls could be poured from crushed crystal and mixed with plants that soften stone and poured into molds and allowed to reharden solid again...Google "plants that soften stone south america" and read the story how a bird carries a plant to a rock cliff and uses it to soften the stone where it can peak out a hole for a nest...
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You don't understand the process of glass making do you? You can't use ground glass or chips, it has to be melted so it is clear, it you used chips it would look like ice, not clear.
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Not sure I agree with your theory, but I do agree "aliens" or at least what people believe they are sure didn't have anything to do with it..
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I figure the holes made in stone were done hydraulically. Take a reed and a water source above it, pour sand in and let the water flow through the reed and into the stone - sort of like a water jet cutter.
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I think the thing people fail to realize is that anything can be done if you want to take the time to do it. In our disposable, try 5 minutes and give up society no, you could never drill a hole in a rock with a piece of flintstone tied on the end of a stick.... in 5 minutes before you give up.

Maybe people wern't always like that. Maybe they didn't mind spending an entire year to drill a hole in a piece of stone if that's what it took. You can't necessarily apply our work ethic and concepts of time and time wasted to them.
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Crystal doesn't 'pour' it crystallizes.

The Few Crystal skulls are made out of quartz. Quarts isn't hat hard to cut and shape and no, you do not need titanium or diamond bits. yo just have to be able hit with good aim, then 'grind' away with lots of sand.

As for the massive stones. No need for sledges, no need for tens of thousands of workers. The Magic of Pivots and Fulcrums is all you need.

If you use a single pivot point and lay it under any stone, you will be able to use the stone's own weight to turn it and twist it about the axis point of the pivot. If you have two pivot points you can literally walk a stone, swinging it from pivot point to pivot point, moving those forward as you go.

There is no need to actually lift stones. You see-saw them up. Each side you stack blocks and raise the stone with shims at the center point, then you rock it back and forth, each time it tilts to a side, you slide in a shim at the gap, then let rock it back, the stone rises by the thickness of the shim and you can slide a new shim in. Two stacks of blocks on either end point to control how far down your ends lower.

Stones is real easy to mold and form.

Chipping is one way. Simply bounce a harder rock on a slightly softer rock. The harder rock with chip slightly, the softer rock will chip a bit more. You don't need to hammer, you bounce the tool stone. Gravity does most of the work.

As for facing two stone together, with a smooth meeting surface, spin one of the stones. As it turns where the two stones meet (Their faces) will slowly be ground down and they will become near perfectly smooth.

And if the rock is too big, then you just put a very long lever on it and have a team of animals pull the end of the lever. The longer the lever, the more work can be done.
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You make it sound like they were mixing something similar to concrete, but with crushed stone instead of sand?
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any crushed material would work with the plant chemical mixture...crystal skulls could be poured from crushed crystal and mixed with plants that soften stone and poured into molds and allowed to reharden solid again...Google "plants that soften stone south america" and read the story how a bird carries a plant to a rock cliff and uses it to soften the stone where it can peak out a hole for a nest...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


You don't understand the process of glass making do you? You can't use ground glass or chips, it has to be melted so it is clear, it you used chips it would look like ice, not clear.
 Quoting: 1nf1del
the plants that soften stone melts the crushed material,i thought that was oblivious,my bad..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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IF you think all those ancient stones were "Cut" you are a fool.


They were "Cast".


The Art of making stone is Alchemy.
 Quoting: Elchemist 15740069
...that's what i said...plant chemistry to soften aka melt the crushed materiel or chunks then recast and allowed to reharden back into solid form...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Highly pressurized water. What are the common elements about all archeological sites of religious significance. Yes, that's right, the water ways.
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Highly pressurized water. What are the common elements about all archeological sites of religious significance. Yes, that's right, the water ways.
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Google plants that soften stone south America and read how birds take the plants up high to the rock to soften it so they can peck holes out for nests...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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You make it sound like they were mixing something similar to concrete, but with crushed stone instead of sand?
 Quoting: CrissCross
any crushed material would work with the plant chemical mixture...crystal skulls could be poured from crushed crystal and mixed with plants that soften stone and poured into molds and allowed to reharden solid again...Google "plants that soften stone south america" and read the story how a bird carries a plant to a rock cliff and uses it to soften the stone where it can peak out a hole for a nest...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


You don't understand the process of glass making do you? You can't use ground glass or chips, it has to be melted so it is clear, it you used chips it would look like ice, not clear.
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you dont understand the old ways of doing it,hidden now from most..the Vatican has the records of the previous civilizations mysteries...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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What about granite statues/objects....

How did they do that?
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Crystal doesn't 'pour' it crystallizes.

The Few Crystal skulls are made out of quartz. Quarts isn't hat hard to cut and shape and no, you do not need titanium or diamond bits. yo just have to be able hit with good aim, then 'grind' away with lots of sand.

As for the massive stones. No need for sledges, no need for tens of thousands of workers. The Magic of Pivots and Fulcrums is all you need.

If you use a single pivot point and lay it under any stone, you will be able to use the stone's own weight to turn it and twist it about the axis point of the pivot. If you have two pivot points you can literally walk a stone, swinging it from pivot point to pivot point, moving those forward as you go.

There is no need to actually lift stones. You see-saw them up. Each side you stack blocks and raise the stone with shims at the center point, then you rock it back and forth, each time it tilts to a side, you slide in a shim at the gap, then let rock it back, the stone rises by the thickness of the shim and you can slide a new shim in. Two stacks of blocks on either end point to control how far down your ends lower.

Stones is real easy to mold and form.

Chipping is one way. Simply bounce a harder rock on a slightly softer rock. The harder rock with chip slightly, the softer rock will chip a bit more. You don't need to hammer, you bounce the tool stone. Gravity does most of the work.

As for facing two stone together, with a smooth meeting surface, spin one of the stones. As it turns where the two stones meet (Their faces) will slowly be ground down and they will become near perfectly smooth.

And if the rock is too big, then you just put a very long lever on it and have a team of animals pull the end of the lever. The longer the lever, the more work can be done.
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might as well post another thread instead of the mysteries going in to the nobody threads,lol...we have already discussed on GLP how stones were ground and recast into solid form again as statues,temples,and blocks that supposedly couldn't be moved...its because they were cast on site and the ones in the quarries and the paintings of hauling them were left to mislead from the ancient casting concrete process(wonder who done that,keep reading)...anyhoo,you cast stone rods,pour the liquid stone around them in the rubber tree rubber molds and before the stone re-hardens, you bow-saw the rods back out giving the illusion the holes were drilled from the outside in...no diamond drill bits and no ancient aliens,just chemistry from the plants that soften stone and crushed material reformed by those who pretend there are aliens and say humans dont have critical thinking skills...P.S. do you really think rubber balls were the only thing south american elders used rubber for before their science and navigational records were snatched by the Vatican's armored snake "gods"...PSS .the snake gods made it a habit of snatching any science/navigational records all over the globe...causing the civilizations to fall into ruins...and you wonder why pope caesar thinks he's representation of a messiah...
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Interesting information and good to know. As for why..

Probably the same reason one of those Islamic people were calling for the destruction of all books.

Hitler did it, ever hear of the Library in Alexandria?

It is to control the truth.
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I think the thing people fail to realize is that anything can be done if you want to take the time to do it. In our disposable, try 5 minutes and give up society no, you could never drill a hole in a rock with a piece of flintstone tied on the end of a stick.... in 5 minutes before you give up.

Maybe people wern't always like that. Maybe they didn't mind spending an entire year to drill a hole in a piece of stone if that's what it took. You can't necessarily apply our work ethic and concepts of time and time wasted to them.
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I think the thing people fail to realize is that anything can be done if you want to take the time to do it. In our disposable, try 5 minutes and give up society no, you could never drill a hole in a rock with a piece of flintstone tied on the end of a stick.... in 5 minutes before you give up.

Maybe people wern't always like that. Maybe they didn't mind spending an entire year to drill a hole in a piece of stone if that's what it took. You can't necessarily apply our work ethic and concepts of time and time wasted to them.
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clappa
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Highly doubt it. I am sure they were quite advanced around 12,000 years ago...

Granite stones are very hard to work on. [link to www.weltonrotz.com]

Take a closer look at what's inside Giza Pyramid and Ramses granite statues...

Provide one example that anyone did it with primitive tools... Exact replica of 18ft Ramses statue...
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Not the guy who thinks he's God. ffs
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Alright check it out, I got a local state park close by, within 20 miles.

There is a small waterfall at the beginning of the walking path.

At this waterfall, the big main rock, now I'm talking BIG -

Has three perfectly round, equally separated holes drilled into it.

No way water did it because it's on the flat surface, and the water cascades over top of it.

I will favorite this thread, and later on this week I will go out there and take a pic for you guys to see.


I've been going to this place for almost 4 years and never noticed it before, but the last time I went, we took some friends that had never been there before.

One of them pointed it out to me, and I was SHOCKED.

If I remember correctly, there were two on the bottom, and one at the top, forming a triangle shape, but individually, perfectly round, and cut DEEP into the rock.


You guys will have a pic by Friday, I'll make sure I personal pin this thread right now because you gotta see it to believe it, I know.
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I think the thing people fail to realize is that anything can be done if you want to take the time to do it. In our disposable, try 5 minutes and give up society no, you could never drill a hole in a rock with a piece of flintstone tied on the end of a stick.... in 5 minutes before you give up.

Maybe people wern't always like that. Maybe they didn't mind spending an entire year to drill a hole in a piece of stone if that's what it took. You can't necessarily apply our work ethic and concepts of time and time wasted to them.
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clappa
 Quoting: anonimalle


Highly doubt it. I am sure they were quite advanced around 12,000 years ago...

Granite stones are very hard to work on. [link to www.weltonrotz.com]

Take a closer look at what's inside Giza Pyramid and Ramses granite statues...

Provide one example that anyone did it with primitive tools... Exact replica of 18ft Ramses statue...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner
they found camel hairs in middle of the Giza blocks...any stone can be melted with enough acidic plants,then alkaloid plants poured in to start it freezing into solid again...the right mixture just softens them then refreezes them into a solid piece...dont we put on rubber gloves to deal with acids? i know i used to in the carpet dyeing industry...the carved wooden molds were rubber lined...

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It's impossible to melt or smelt granite of any size, and cast it back into a shape. What does one use as a cast, at those temperatures? Also alas, it wouldn't be granite any longer! Ho gosh, it has to be chemicals from plants, surely? Come on friend, wake up and smell the coffee.
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This simply isn't possible. Firstly granite is an igneous rock, while it's chemical formula is pretty much the same as most other rocks, its structure is much different. This structure requires extreme heat an pressure to form. Regardless, forget about that for a second and think about the chemical reaction. If you react SiO2 with an acid you would get a silicic acid. If you react that with a base you get a salt not SiO2, the oxygen gets converted into water in the first reaction and in the second it forms a hydroxide ion. Which means you would have to react your acid with say aluminum oxide to reform your SiO2. Of course then one wonders how the heck they are mining aluminum ore and why they didn't continue the refining process that they started to get pure aluminum. Regardless, that still leaves the whole heat and pressure problem. So unless chemistry and geology have changed dramatically in the last few thousand years...
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The absolute crazy thing is we know they had diamond an other gems,these are alot harder than stone.
Any that were left afterwards obviously were stolen as they are valuable.

They used diamond to cut stones not copper its blatantly obvious.

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