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Whats the differences between sumerian sun god, and babylonian sun god symbols!???

When I google it, it says sumerian sun god, and then I'll see the same one, and it says babylonian! Are they the same symbol!?


Any help would be great Thanks!
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
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putin Thanks for not helping!
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Whatever JAMIE,

I doubt you looked it up. Judging by your response time, Putin, you could not have possible followed any of the leads. I doubt you have been to Egypt, Babylon, or the Mayan sites. I doubt you studied this professionally. I am actually giving you what you don't want to hear... the truth. Continue in your delusion, but don't act like you were not told. Why are you seeking this stuff out, anyway?

Here is another clue for you, budddy. How do you say "sunny" or "sun" in Arabic? The truth is staring you in the facerant
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Whatever JAMIE,

I doubt you looked it up. Judging by your response time, Putin, you could not have possible followed any of the leads. I doubt you have been to Egypt, Babylon, or the Mayan sites. I doubt you studied this professionally. I am actually giving you what you don't want to hear... the truth. Continue in your delusion, but don't act like you were not told. Why are you seeking this stuff out, anyway?

Here is another clue for you, budddy. How do you say "sunny" or "sun" in Arabic? The truth is staring you in the facerant
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Dumbass this has nothing to do with what I believe, Im trying to see what they look like for my son's report!

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When they begin to worship the Sun, the end is near.
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Whatever JAMIE,

I doubt you looked it up. Judging by your response time, Putin, you could not have possible followed any of the leads. I doubt you have been to Egypt, Babylon, or the Mayan sites. I doubt you studied this professionally. I am actually giving you what you don't want to hear... the truth. Continue in your delusion, but don't act like you were not told. Why are you seeking this stuff out, anyway?

Here is another clue for you, budddy. How do you say "sunny" or "sun" in Arabic? The truth is staring you in the facerant
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Delusional religious fucktard....
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Dumbass?,

Really? Why don't you go to Wiki and read, oh-say, the first 3 lines on the page for Shamash. You are the smart guy for asking on a conspiracy site. Most people here give more than the sheeple-tard answer for things. If you want that, go to PBS kids, cad. It is obvious you do not want more than that. Lemme break it down for, T H E Y A R E T H E S A M E just with a different name. I imagine this report is not an honors class at your local public school. I feel for your children. I guess ignorance is bliss.
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Dumbass?,

Really? Why don't you go to Wiki and read, oh-say, the first 3 lines on the page for Shamash. You are the smart guy for asking on a conspiracy site. Most people here give more than the sheeple-tard answer for things. If you want that, go to PBS kids, cad. It is obvious you do not want more than that. Lemme break it down for, T H E Y A R E T H E S A M E just with a different name. I imagine this report is not an honors class at your local public school. I feel for your children. I guess ignorance is bliss.
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Go fuck yourself!!!
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Wait? So did you get the answer? Seems like you are trolling your own thread?
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all ancient civilizations worhipped the solar logos....

the sun is symbolic for light....

the sun is life....

that is why they worshipped the sun....

nothing complicated about that...
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all ancient civilizations worhipped the solar logos....

the sun is symbolic for light....

the sun is life....

that is why they worshipped the sun....

nothing complicated about that...
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True.

Many say the Sun is the Son of God that brings life to the earth. Some call it Jesus. As Jesus aka the Sun moves through the sky along with the 12 disciples. The Sun will always be known as the bringer of life. Without it nothing lives.

People have been brainwashed by the Vatican. The teach only a literal meaning of the bible. The Bible is much more complex.

Peace
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
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Yes, everything you don't understand in life is either 'demonic' or 'Satan's doing'.

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Ancient Egypt wasn't evil!!!
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan.
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As far as I know there is no difference.

The Gods of Babylon and Sumer are they same, they're just revered by different names. It's a sumerian symbol adopted by a later civilization.

I hope this helps a little.
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Ancient Egypt wasn't evil!!!
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Ancient Egypt along with many early Christian religions were destroyed and had their books burned, simply because they knew the path to God. The Native Americans were done the same way.

The Vatican spreads lies to scare the masses. They only teach a literal or material version of the Bible when it is MUCH more.

Peace
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here it is..
[link to www.goroadachi.com]
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btw, the FCC and Higher Court said no big deal.. not obscene
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
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Yes, everything you don't understand in life is either 'demonic' or 'Satan's doing'.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Actually,

I understand it quite well. From history studies ON SITE( Egypt, Iraq,Kurdistan, Mexico etc.) to witnessing people (in and around my family) practice these crafts. Don't talk about what you don't know. Again, I implore you all to do the research. Just a quick look up of these will show you that the Sumerian and Babylonian sun god are one in the same. Even had time to study a bit with yazidis on the Syrian and Iraqi border. Melek Tawoos sounds so much like shaytan it is amazing. If you don't know who they are, or what they believe, I ask you to take a look. Once you see the root and know the root, you can identify the tree from its branches.

I encourage you to listen to this guy speak his secular knowledge from a Templar/Masonic standpoint. It is not some Christian viewpoint. I know if I address it in that manner, many of you will run away b/c of years of false prophets, wack-o's, synagogue of satan snake oil salesmen pushing a lie for their personal gain. If you follow the link, you will find he tells on himself in more than one way (Think Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma). From islam to the green movement you are about to see a world religion emerge that only hints at what I have been saying. ( [link to www.yeziditruth.org] )

These gods are all different manifestations or descriptions of satan, the devil, or whatever you want to dub him. Again, ask yourself why the so called star of David is the same for Chiun/ Remphan ( [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

I hope you will actually do the scholarly thing and conduct your own research before blindly condemning someone trying to shed a little light on the situation. What if this viewpoint is proven false? You have only gained in strengthening your own beliefs. I believe once you research what I have proposed, you will be confronted with the truth.

Take a look at 1 Kings 11:33 (I know, I see the significance of the numbers) and Amos 5:25-27. Then look up exactly what those gods represent, and what were the practices of those who followed them bump

God Bless
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
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Yes, everything you don't understand in life is either 'demonic' or 'Satan's doing'.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Actually,

I understand it quite well. From history studies ON SITE( Egypt, Iraq,Kurdistan, Mexico etc.) to witnessing people (in and around my family) practice these crafts. Don't talk about what you don't know. Again, I implore you all to do the research. Just a quick look up of these will show you that the Sumerian and Babylonian sun god are one in the same. Even had time to study a bit with yazidis on the Syrian and Iraqi border. Melek Tawoos sounds so much like shaytan it is amazing. If you don't know who they are, or what they believe, I ask you to take a look. Once you see the root and know the root, you can identify the tree from its branches.

I encourage you to listen to this guy speak his secular knowledge from a Templar/Masonic standpoint. It is not some Christian viewpoint. I know if I address it in that manner, many of you will run away b/c of years of false prophets, wack-o's, synagogue of satan snake oil salesmen pushing a lie for their personal gain. If you follow the link, you will find he tells on himself in more than one way (Think Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma). From islam to the green movement you are about to see a world religion emerge that only hints at what I have been saying. ( [link to www.yeziditruth.org] )

These gods are all different manifestations or descriptions of satan, the devil, or whatever you want to dub him. Again, ask yourself why the so called star of David is the same for Chiun/ Remphan ( [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

I hope you will actually do the scholarly thing and conduct your own research before blindly condemning someone trying to shed a little light on the situation. What if this viewpoint is proven false? You have only gained in strengthening your own beliefs. I believe once you research what I have proposed, you will be confronted with the truth.

Take a look at 1 Kings 11:33 (I know, I see the significance of the numbers) and Amos 5:25-27. Then look up exactly what those gods represent, and what were the practices of those who followed them bump

God Bless
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Me thinks this is partially, but not entirely correct.

If you are looking for the devil, you need to look in the direction of Pashupati & Cernunnos.

Even fallen angels can gain redemption, in time.

peace
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btw, the FCC and Higher Court said no big deal.. not obscene
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No surprise coming from a Super Bowl half-time show with a Disney abused MK handler of sex kittens (Timberlake) and a known unrepentant pedophile's wife (Jackson). Definite 8 rayed sun god. It is like a gang... they always have to throw up their little signs everywhere.
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Sumerian is 'older' (more ancient) than Babylonian, which came later.

Thusly -- the first poster was right, they are pretty much the same thing. Although not for the satanic mumbo-jumbo reasons he gave you.
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As far as I know there is no difference.

The Gods of Babylon and Sumer are they same, they're just revered by different names. It's a sumerian symbol adopted by a later civilization.

I hope this helps a little.
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Yes, what girl says. See my similar post above.
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Sumerian is 'older' (more ancient) than Babylonian, which came later.

Thusly -- the first poster was right, they are pretty much the same thing. Although not for the satanic mumbo-jumbo reasons he gave you.
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Like I said, please research it. I did and found out that they are indeed related. You have partially proven this by saying they are (Sumerian and Babylonian) basically the same. Is it too far of a stretch to say that these are all interwoven?
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Jamie,

They are pretty much the same. The devil is the same no matter how you look it up. It is sun worship whether the Egyptians, or the Greeks, or Romans, or the Druids (look at their major holidays and the shape it makes). All ties into synagogue of satan and the six pointed star too. Look up Remphan or Chiun or Kiwan to see the deception being played out on mankind. In the KJV of the Bible, Amos Ch 5 (specifically vs 25-27) and Acts Ch 7:43 talk about the same things. This star (see the star on the Israeli flag, or the Wal-mart or Masonic compass and square) and other symbols are all linked together at the top of the pyramidIdol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16874230


Yes, everything you don't understand in life is either 'demonic' or 'Satan's doing'.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Actually,

I understand it quite well. From history studies ON SITE( Egypt, Iraq,Kurdistan, Mexico etc.) to witnessing people (in and around my family) practice these crafts. Don't talk about what you don't know. Again, I implore you all to do the research. Just a quick look up of these will show you that the Sumerian and Babylonian sun god are one in the same. Even had time to study a bit with yazidis on the Syrian and Iraqi border. Melek Tawoos sounds so much like shaytan it is amazing. If you don't know who they are, or what they believe, I ask you to take a look. Once you see the root and know the root, you can identify the tree from its branches.

I encourage you to listen to this guy speak his secular knowledge from a Templar/Masonic standpoint. It is not some Christian viewpoint. I know if I address it in that manner, many of you will run away b/c of years of false prophets, wack-o's, synagogue of satan snake oil salesmen pushing a lie for their personal gain. If you follow the link, you will find he tells on himself in more than one way (Think Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma). From islam to the green movement you are about to see a world religion emerge that only hints at what I have been saying. ( [link to www.yeziditruth.org] )

These gods are all different manifestations or descriptions of satan, the devil, or whatever you want to dub him. Again, ask yourself why the so called star of David is the same for Chiun/ Remphan ( [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

I hope you will actually do the scholarly thing and conduct your own research before blindly condemning someone trying to shed a little light on the situation. What if this viewpoint is proven false? You have only gained in strengthening your own beliefs. I believe once you research what I have proposed, you will be confronted with the truth.

Take a look at 1 Kings 11:33 (I know, I see the significance of the numbers) and Amos 5:25-27. Then look up exactly what those gods represent, and what were the practices of those who followed them bump

God Bless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16969193


Me thinks this is partially, but not entirely correct.

If you are looking for the devil, you need to look in the direction of Pashupati & Cernunnos.

Even fallen angels can gain redemption, in time.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271187


Know of Cernunnos, the druids, the men of the oak, worshippers in covens/ groves, special trees (Judges Ch 6) (rock out sign in Holy Wood and Heller Keller's mystic/ theosophic ASL "I love you- how clever). I am also aware of shiva, or pashu, you speak of. Notice many pieces of art showing him/her throwing up the same "rock out" hand sign. In one of his bedrooms, MY own father had a $500 + hand painted piece depicting him/her as such. Nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes). They are all tied in, I am telling you. Believe me when I say I have studied this stuff from a scholarly standpoint. I was truly amazed when I found such things written in plain sight in the Bible.

whoa Chris Brown! Fallen angels getting there redemption? Not so sure of that. Please inform me as to how. I am always interested in learning
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Fallen angel reference to Chris Brown [link to www.youtube.com]
or Led Zep, or anyone else on that whole Holy Wood scene. In plain sight
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Yes, everything you don't understand in life is either 'demonic' or 'Satan's doing'.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Actually,

I understand it quite well. From history studies ON SITE( Egypt, Iraq,Kurdistan, Mexico etc.) to witnessing people (in and around my family) practice these crafts. Don't talk about what you don't know. Again, I implore you all to do the research. Just a quick look up of these will show you that the Sumerian and Babylonian sun god are one in the same. Even had time to study a bit with yazidis on the Syrian and Iraqi border. Melek Tawoos sounds so much like shaytan it is amazing. If you don't know who they are, or what they believe, I ask you to take a look. Once you see the root and know the root, you can identify the tree from its branches.

I encourage you to listen to this guy speak his secular knowledge from a Templar/Masonic standpoint. It is not some Christian viewpoint. I know if I address it in that manner, many of you will run away b/c of years of false prophets, wack-o's, synagogue of satan snake oil salesmen pushing a lie for their personal gain. If you follow the link, you will find he tells on himself in more than one way (Think Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma). From islam to the green movement you are about to see a world religion emerge that only hints at what I have been saying. ( [link to www.yeziditruth.org] )

These gods are all different manifestations or descriptions of satan, the devil, or whatever you want to dub him. Again, ask yourself why the so called star of David is the same for Chiun/ Remphan ( [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

I hope you will actually do the scholarly thing and conduct your own research before blindly condemning someone trying to shed a little light on the situation. What if this viewpoint is proven false? You have only gained in strengthening your own beliefs. I believe once you research what I have proposed, you will be confronted with the truth.

Take a look at 1 Kings 11:33 (I know, I see the significance of the numbers) and Amos 5:25-27. Then look up exactly what those gods represent, and what were the practices of those who followed them bump

God Bless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16969193


Me thinks this is partially, but not entirely correct.

If you are looking for the devil, you need to look in the direction of Pashupati & Cernunnos.

Even fallen angels can gain redemption, in time.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271187


Know of Cernunnos, the druids, the men of the oak, worshippers in covens/ groves, special trees (Judges Ch 6) (rock out sign in Holy Wood and Heller Keller's mystic/ theosophic ASL "I love you- how clever). I am also aware of shiva, or pashu, you speak of. Notice many pieces of art showing him/her throwing up the same "rock out" hand sign. In one of his bedrooms, MY own father had a $500 + hand painted piece depicting him/her as such. Nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes). They are all tied in, I am telling you. Believe me when I say I have studied this stuff from a scholarly standpoint. I was truly amazed when I found such things written in plain sight in the Bible.

whoa Chris Brown! Fallen angels getting there redemption? Not so sure of that. Please inform me as to how. I am always interested in learning
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...Can someone please show me where it has been said that Angels have been given Free Will? I've never known it, I think this is a big misconception and a gross distortion of the Truth...

I guess it comes from the notion that Lucifer/Satan is an Angel...(as well as the other fallen ones)???

In the Book of Enoch reference is made to: 'Ones who fell to Earth' or 'Came from the Sky' (...'Who had made a Pact to each take for themselves wives from amongst mankind')...However, incorrect assumption or translation has been made with regards the interpretation of 'The Ones Who Came From The Sky'... As is clear when you understand the Nature of Angels, this cannot be in reference to them!

Unless of course, an Apple can suddenly decide it wants to become an Elephant!
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Actually,

I understand it quite well. From history studies ON SITE( Egypt, Iraq,Kurdistan, Mexico etc.) to witnessing people (in and around my family) practice these crafts. Don't talk about what you don't know. Again, I implore you all to do the research. Just a quick look up of these will show you that the Sumerian and Babylonian sun god are one in the same. Even had time to study a bit with yazidis on the Syrian and Iraqi border. Melek Tawoos sounds so much like shaytan it is amazing. If you don't know who they are, or what they believe, I ask you to take a look. Once you see the root and know the root, you can identify the tree from its branches.

I encourage you to listen to this guy speak his secular knowledge from a Templar/Masonic standpoint. It is not some Christian viewpoint. I know if I address it in that manner, many of you will run away b/c of years of false prophets, wack-o's, synagogue of satan snake oil salesmen pushing a lie for their personal gain. If you follow the link, you will find he tells on himself in more than one way (Think Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma). From islam to the green movement you are about to see a world religion emerge that only hints at what I have been saying. ( [link to www.yeziditruth.org] )

These gods are all different manifestations or descriptions of satan, the devil, or whatever you want to dub him. Again, ask yourself why the so called star of David is the same for Chiun/ Remphan ( [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

I hope you will actually do the scholarly thing and conduct your own research before blindly condemning someone trying to shed a little light on the situation. What if this viewpoint is proven false? You have only gained in strengthening your own beliefs. I believe once you research what I have proposed, you will be confronted with the truth.

Take a look at 1 Kings 11:33 (I know, I see the significance of the numbers) and Amos 5:25-27. Then look up exactly what those gods represent, and what were the practices of those who followed them bump

God Bless
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Me thinks this is partially, but not entirely correct.

If you are looking for the devil, you need to look in the direction of Pashupati & Cernunnos.

Even fallen angels can gain redemption, in time.

peace
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Know of Cernunnos, the druids, the men of the oak, worshippers in covens/ groves, special trees (Judges Ch 6) (rock out sign in Holy Wood and Heller Keller's mystic/ theosophic ASL "I love you- how clever). I am also aware of shiva, or pashu, you speak of. Notice many pieces of art showing him/her throwing up the same "rock out" hand sign. In one of his bedrooms, MY own father had a $500 + hand painted piece depicting him/her as such. Nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes). They are all tied in, I am telling you. Believe me when I say I have studied this stuff from a scholarly standpoint. I was truly amazed when I found such things written in plain sight in the Bible.

whoa Chris Brown! Fallen angels getting there redemption? Not so sure of that. Please inform me as to how. I am always interested in learning
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...Can someone please show me where it has been said that Angels have been given Free Will? I've never known it, I think this is a big misconception and a gross distortion of the Truth...

I guess it comes from the notion that Lucifer/Satan is an Angel...(as well as the other fallen ones)???

In the Book of Enoch reference is made to: 'Ones who fell to Earth' or 'Came from the Sky' (...'Who had made a Pact to each take for themselves wives from amongst mankind')...However, incorrect assumption or translation has been made with regards the interpretation of 'The Ones Who Came From The Sky'... As is clear when you understand the Nature of Angels, this cannot be in reference to them!

Unless of course, an Apple can suddenly decide it wants to become an Elephant!
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Nemesis (If I may),

I only have a few judeo christian references to satan and his fallen angels (fallen b/c left their first estate). You are probably well aware of them:

Genesis 1 (let Us make...)
Genesis 6 (spec., vs 2 whom they CHOSE, not forced to do)
Genesis 11 (let Us at Bab El)
Job Ch 1 (supposedly predates most of the Old Testament. Spec., vs 6-12) satan with others accusing, which is part of his modus operandi
and finally
Isaiah 14 (spec., v 12)
Revelation 12
Jude Chapter 1 (it is only ONE chapter, but spec., vs 6)Left their FIRST estate

The last one says they willingly did this,and were indeed fallen angels. Again, from a judeo-christian perspective.

I give the whole chapter b/c I hate it when "ministers" take things out of context. Plus it is good to study for yourself. (Acts 17;11 and II Titus 2:15)

Hope that helpshf
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Me thinks this is partially, but not entirely correct.

If you are looking for the devil, you need to look in the direction of Pashupati & Cernunnos.

Even fallen angels can gain redemption, in time.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271187


Know of Cernunnos, the druids, the men of the oak, worshippers in covens/ groves, special trees (Judges Ch 6) (rock out sign in Holy Wood and Heller Keller's mystic/ theosophic ASL "I love you- how clever). I am also aware of shiva, or pashu, you speak of. Notice many pieces of art showing him/her throwing up the same "rock out" hand sign. In one of his bedrooms, MY own father had a $500 + hand painted piece depicting him/her as such. Nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes). They are all tied in, I am telling you. Believe me when I say I have studied this stuff from a scholarly standpoint. I was truly amazed when I found such things written in plain sight in the Bible.

whoa Chris Brown! Fallen angels getting there redemption? Not so sure of that. Please inform me as to how. I am always interested in learning
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...Can someone please show me where it has been said that Angels have been given Free Will? I've never known it, I think this is a big misconception and a gross distortion of the Truth...

I guess it comes from the notion that Lucifer/Satan is an Angel...(as well as the other fallen ones)???

In the Book of Enoch reference is made to: 'Ones who fell to Earth' or 'Came from the Sky' (...'Who had made a Pact to each take for themselves wives from amongst mankind')...However, incorrect assumption or translation has been made with regards the interpretation of 'The Ones Who Came From The Sky'... As is clear when you understand the Nature of Angels, this cannot be in reference to them!

Unless of course, an Apple can suddenly decide it wants to become an Elephant!
 Quoting: Nemesis-incognitO


Nemesis (If I may),

I only have a few judeo christian references to satan and his fallen angels (fallen b/c left their first estate). You are probably well aware of them:

Genesis 1 (let Us make...)
Genesis 6 (spec., vs 2 whom they CHOSE, not forced to do)
Genesis 11 (let Us at Bab El)
Job Ch 1 (supposedly predates most of the Old Testament. Spec., vs 6-12) satan with others accusing, which is part of his modus operandi
and finally
Isaiah 14 (spec., v 12)
Revelation 12
Jude Chapter 1 (it is only ONE chapter, but spec., vs 6)Left their FIRST estate

The last one says they willingly did this,and were indeed fallen angels. Again, from a judeo-christian perspective.

I give the whole chapter b/c I hate it when "ministers" take things out of context. Plus it is good to study for yourself. (Acts 17;11 and II Titus 2:15)

Hope that helpshf
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Thank you for this ~ I am rather tired right now so shall respond to this as necessary after I've rested...Goodnight X
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all ancient civilizations worhipped the solar logos....

the sun is symbolic for light....

the sun is life....

that is why they worshipped the sun....

nothing complicated about that...
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True.

Many say the Sun is the Son of God that brings life to the earth. Some call it Jesus. As Jesus aka the Sun moves through the sky along with the 12 disciples. The Sun will always be known as the bringer of life. Without it nothing lives.

People have been brainwashed by the Vatican. The teach only a literal meaning of the bible. The Bible is much more complex.

Peace
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Amy, I too have felt that there is such a deeper meaning to the Bible than most will agree to.
I also felt that Sun/Son is the symbolic representation of the truth concerning the SONS/SUNS of God and how they are portrayed in a cosmic story for us to try to figure out.
This info has been kept secret under strict orders so as to not allow us to become too awaken to the truth happening both now and in the past. There is so much more for us to learn. We are ready to begin our next step in the evolution of our coming of age through exposing truth.
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.

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