How does it feel, to die? I have been revived from flatline twice, No B.S. Ask me a question.

its really a lot more complex than i have stated, because as soon as you change the way you look at it then concepts dependant on this change also.

your explanation why you disagree leaves me without explanation, and you just reaffirmed what i said.. what you call the physical is the body, and the meta-physical the soul.

its all electro magnetic.

electro being the meta-physical and magnetic being the physical.

I'm gonna hafta agree with this. To a degree...
They're called NEAR death experiences for a reason. You didn't actually die. Your brain was functioning enough to be brought back. To be BRAIN dead is to be dead. Notbody has been or would be able to come back from that and tell you how it was.

At best, you'd be:

what I'm trying to say is that the spiritual isn't electro at all.

I can't believe you people are in a pissing match over whether it's a death or a near-death experience. who gives a crap what you call it. The thread was interesting until you started fighting over such nonsense.

can you show me how?

liek i have explained what was referenced in old books as the soul is referring to the electrical enegry a cell posseses.

id be glad to consider what you have to say.

i cant believe you dont see the wealth of the information presented regardless.

this is a little bit more than mere entertainment for some.

what makes you think meta-physical is electro? if it is then it is not meta-physical it is still physical. Electrical energy is still in the realm of physicality and therefore not meta-physical.

I was getting a wealth of information until you started fighting over whether it was death or near death. Then the thread got derailed and the wealth of information stopped.

OP....do you remember being shown anything of the future?
You spoke of ascension.....do you remember anything about that?

Thanks for sharing!
Peace

i think thats why the human body (you) experience the you in you(soul)leaving all at once, just be cause we percive it that way, doesnt mean it's at all a scale model of what really happens when it happens.

the idea of radiation makes sense, but just because it dissapates from the body does not mean it is destroyed, it goes on up through the cosmos. This i believe is what we meta-mentally percive as feeling like the soul just completely runs ff.

something physical is a collection of atoms aka matter.

now we get a bit into trouble because you called the opposite of physical as meta-physical which i went along with to help you understand what i was saying.

now i must clarify

meta physical is not the opposite of physical but simply the principle discussion of abstact physics.


the body is the physical part, the collection of the atoms that make up the cells of our body, which are the building blocks of our bodies.

the soul is the part of the cell which is its electrical potential, the energy source which animates the cell.

this is the soul.

the problem is, we have invented an idea based on misunderstanding that there is a seperate spiritual and physical type of existence of a conciousness, this is not true.

if the soul were to leave our bodies it would not be us as a consciouness leaving the body, that ceases to exist on death.

OP,

do you remember the pain? did you leave your body before the pain came? was there a guide? when you had your NDE was it like being in a dream? you mentioned 4th/5th dimensional what was that like? and when exactly did that occur?

Good question, Cosmic Traveler! Looking forwards to the answer.

consciousness is just the expression of the two, soul and body.

one of the parts on their own cannot express consciousness as there is no way for the soul to interact with the physical without a body. and no way for the body to animate without the soul.

im still waiting for my answer on hows the weather.. so dont hold your breath, but simply consider this thread hijacked for now.

Yes, but this is all providing there is no god or spiritual element? correct?

This is why I see it as separate, and perhaps unmeasurable. It is the untangible.

no no no, god is the electrical energy that is in the cell.

god is the collection of all the souls, and we have a part of god in the body.

thats what all the bible type books are trying to teach.

its only seperate when they are seperate.

but you just said the soul ceases to exist upon death, how then can god be a collection of souls? how then can god exist but there be no such thing as a soul merely electrical energy?

just incase that didnt explain effectively, ill try again.

god is the source, where the electrical potential (soul) comes from.

god is this electrical potential

so essentially the soul is a part of god.

yes that makes sense, god is a part of everything.

but what your saying is the part of us that is aware when we die ceases to exist but the energy goes back to god?

no thats not what i said,

the soul cannot cease to exist, what i think your referring to is me saying that conscioussness ceases to exist upon death.

like i said before, we as in our consciousnees are not our body alone or our soul alone but the combination of the both which allows expression in the physical universe.

the soul alone is not consciouss.

god is this electrical energy (a part of god is our soul). which may or may not reside in some kind of physical body.

bingo, but we can only get back to the source if we can escape the electric forcefield around this planet we call the electromagnetic field.

otherwise the soul inhabits other life on this planet that is being created as we die.

perhaps you are correct. Although I would like to believe the soul remains conscious and moves into a realm of pure consciousness where it has complete freedom of expression without the restraints of physical reality.

can you imagine this yet? am i getting there with the description?

Yeah I know what you mean, the soul is not conscious is what your saying. Who knows for sure eh?

its a nice thought isnt it.

but i dont see how the soul would have any reason to stay in one piece as it leaves the body.

and the definition of conscioussness is the interaction between our thoughts and specifically the physical world.

if theres no intereaction its not conscioussness.

so what your describing is not conscioussness.

i dont even know what to call it.

i dont think our language has a word for it.

not exactly

a soul can only be conscious if it has a body to interact with the physical world.

a soul without a body its like being paralysed.

but a soul is only our thoughts as far as part of our own soul is the electrical energy that occupied the parts of our brain that stored memories which make up our mind.

hope you enjoyed what iv said and i hope some will understand truly what im trying to say.