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N.Y. Times: The President is intimately involved in who is and isnít targeted by the drone strikes, maintains his secret kill list

 
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New York Times reporter Scott Shane told PBS Newshour on Tuesday about the Presidentís involvement in U.S. drone strikes against suspected terrorists in Yemen and Pakistan.

Shane and fellow New York Times reporter Jo Becker revealed details about Obamaís so-called ďkill listsĒ in an article published Tuesday. The President is intimately involved in who is and isnít targeted by the drone strikes, according to the reporters.

ďWe were very interested to discover that President Obama deliberately took a very central role in this program,Ē he explained. ďHe insisted on reviewing names that were going to be named to the so-called kill or capture list. And he has approved all strikes outside Pakistan and many of the more riskier, complex strikes inside Pakistan since he became president. Instead of wanting deniability and wanting to keep at a distance from this lethal program, he actually wanted to be very much part of it.Ē

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The actual NY Times article in many ways contradict to the Raw Story ones.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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The actual NY Times article in many ways contradict to the Raw Story ones.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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BTW, what else do you do in the war than kill your enemies - with or without drones?

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Obama's 'kill list' revealed: How President uses Al Qaeda 'baseball cards' to decide who will live and who will die
By DANIEL BATES
PUBLISHED: 15:40 GMT, 29 May 2012 |

Barack Obama has insisted on personally approving a 'kill list' of Al Qaeda terrorists who should be hunted down and executed, according to reports.
The U.S. president requests that his advisers draw up 'baseball cards' with pictures and biographies that he pores over to see who should live and who should die.
As part of the bizarre Ďnominationí process he then retires for personal reflection to work out whether or not to order a drone strike to take them out.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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How much information about a terrorist can you fit on a basketball card? Does he have ADHD, or has the whitehouse run out of A4 paper?
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so, you want to play God...
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I highly recommend you guys watch the video all the way through..
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Obama's 'kill list' revealed: How President uses Al Qaeda 'baseball cards' to decide who will live and who will die
By DANIEL BATES
PUBLISHED: 15:40 GMT, 29 May 2012 |

Barack Obama has insisted on personally approving a 'kill list' of Al Qaeda terrorists who should be hunted down and executed, according to reports.
The U.S. president requests that his advisers draw up 'baseball cards' with pictures and biographies that he pores over to see who should live and who should die.
As part of the bizarre Ďnominationí process he then retires for personal reflection to work out whether or not to order a drone strike to take them out.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Thanks for the added info, AC

..and thanks for the pin, Mod's

The actual NY Times article in many ways contradict to the Raw Story ones.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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The video is the good material imho..its there clear as crystal from NY Times.

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The Times' report also reveals that President Obama "embraced" a broadening of the term "civilian", helping to limit any public controversy over "non-combatant" deaths.

as the drones start here,wait an see how long it is before they are fired at some bad guy in your home townhiding
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The Times' report also reveals that President Obama "embraced" a broadening of the term "civilian", helping to limit any public controversy over "non-combatant" deaths.

as the drones start here,wait an see how long it is before they are fired at some bad guy in your home townhiding
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Superbowl Security Drone Will Remain in Use Over Arlington - Contact City Council and Reps

Not only did they have drones flying over the Superbowl..they are keeping them in use in Arlington and it's coming into the norm now. Granted..they probably did not have "rockets" on them..but its only a matter of time before they put some kind of offensive weapons on them for the police state, regardless if they have "rockets" or not..this is stepping into a whole new level in America.

Watch the video below..




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yes baby.5a
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So which is worse waterboarding or killing?
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I agree,and it will happen someday soon, a crime will happen an the bad guy will be getting away an they will kill them with a drone,sadly some people will cheer they got the bad guy an how much safer we are, not to realize what is really happening.rant
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i may not be the smartest guy in the room , but isnt the president , the commander and chief , i would think that would somehow obligate him to be ,involved in this process.
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"unless they have concrete evidence to prove them innocent"

Guilty until proven innocent.... either way you're dead.

This is wrong.
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How much information about a terrorist can you fit on a basketball card? Does he have ADHD, or has the whitehouse run out of A4 paper?
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that is exactly what I was wondering

how can you get enough info on a freaking baseball card that can tell you whether someone should live or die?

Personally, I read thousands of pages about that martin/zimmerman thing before I was comfortable I got all the facts
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Obama is relishing every minute of this!

The 'Kill Lists' - Obama's Mother Did The Same Thing
in Indonesia, because both she and Obama's step-father, Mr. Sotoro, worked there for the CIA fingering thousands to die.

OBAMA'S MOTHER SHOWED HIM HOW!

See article by Wayne Madsen:

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"Obama's CIA 'MOMMY DEAREST'

-- Identifying Indonesians for Assassination, Obama's mother
employed by Tim Geitner's father at the Ford Foundation & CIA

Employing hit squads and drones is just something Obama grew up knowing was 'ok'. It was IN THE FAMILY.

So now he's given America the NDAA!




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i may not be the smartest guy in the room , but isnt the president , the commander and chief , i would think that would somehow obligate him to be ,involved in this process.
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No, actually you may be the smartest guy in the room. I would hope the president would be involved and not leave it up to the military or the CIA. Someone should be watching those guys. Besides, you know the saying the buck stops here. When they screw up, who gets blamed? The president.
Ever notice when someone in the government screws up the headlines always say Obama's cabinet member did this or that? Like he's responsible for everything that everyone in the government does. Actually, Bush had it right when he said he was the decider.
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New York Times reporter Scott Shane told PBS Newshour on Tuesday about the Presidentís involvement in U.S. drone strikes against suspected terrorists in Yemen and Pakistan.

Shane and fellow New York Times reporter Jo Becker revealed details about Obamaís so-called ďkill listsĒ in an article published Tuesday. The President is intimately involved in who is and isnít targeted by the drone strikes, according to the reporters.

ďWe were very interested to discover that President Obama deliberately took a very central role in this program,Ē he explained. ďHe insisted on reviewing names that were going to be named to the so-called kill or capture list. And he has approved all strikes outside Pakistan and many of the more riskier, complex strikes inside Pakistan since he became president. Instead of wanting deniability and wanting to keep at a distance from this lethal program, he actually wanted to be very much part of it.Ē

[link to www.rawstory.com]



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"Secret Kill List" is ILLEGAL and violates Geneva Convention.

It is ILLEGAL in the United States, violates Posse Commitatus and countless other laws and is a WAR CRIME to use drones and/or 'secret' assassination.
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Idol1

Right, Obama is breaking the law. His entire administration in DC is lawless.

They are all covering for one another, because they know they won't hang separately... they'll hang together.

But there will be no enforcement of the Geneva Convention or the U.S. Constitution, until the people, and the betrayed Armed Forces of America, stand together.
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"See that person in that country over there? Kill him."
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Whae happened to due process and the rule of law. Now it's ok to kill someone based on an accusation? The accuser could very well be a rival intending to eliminate the competition. This is so wrong on so many levels.
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so, you want to play God...
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It is NOT a game.

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Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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I think this kind of accountability is good.
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How much information about a terrorist can you fit on a basketball card? Does he have ADHD, or has the whitehouse run out of A4 paper?
 Quoting: Monkeybiscuit


that is exactly what I was wondering

how can you get enough info on a freaking baseball card that can tell you whether someone should live or die?

Personally, I read thousands of pages about that martin/zimmerman thing before I was comfortable I got all the facts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Oh, it's quite simple.

If you have a D after your name on the card; you're safe.

If you have a R, you've made the kill list
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so, you want to play God...
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It is NOT a game.

John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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but they make it a game. I truly believe, that deep down inside, they want to play god. the ultimate power trip.
the same fucked up god complex.
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No Shit
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i found the drone that i want to buy. dude finishes with an autorotation crash land...


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