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Culpeper officer indicted

 
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Don't run from the police mmmkay?
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Briefstain, I missed you!

Still up to your same old shenanigans I see.
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Yeah, not running from the police, obeying traffic laws, not doing illegal drugs...boring eh?
 Quoting: BRIEF


his mother admitted his guilt by deleting info from his personnel file, mmmmkay?
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She is trying to protect him, of course she is breaking the law doing it...
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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well the facts seem to show she was fleeing a murderer. but time will tell.
the fact that his mother was arrested for purging his record and the oddness ofg a cop with an AKA does not help the case.

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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
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Opps...Pursuit I mean and possibly a few other typo's as well. Damn these clumsy hands.
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
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We are living in the age of stupidity, running from the police is stupid. Yes, there are too many laws, but that's where personal responsibility comes in to play...stupid people make stupid decisions...Like running from the police.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Briefstain, I missed you!

Still up to your same old shenanigans I see.
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Yeah, not running from the police, obeying traffic laws, not doing illegal drugs...boring eh?
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his mother admitted his guilt by deleting info from his personnel file, mmmmkay?
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She is trying to protect him, of course she is breaking the law doing it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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So you like pre-emptive murder, commie?
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Don't run from the police mmmkay?
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Brief, if you were a man, you would admit that you were wrong, and would learn from the error of your ways.
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I'm not wrong, don't run from the police...here, learn something:




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what if the cop is trying to murder you? you could be wrong....
not all cop are good these days!

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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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well the facts seem to show she was fleeing a murder. but time will tell.
the fact that his mother was arrested for purging his record and the oddness ofg a cop with an AKA does not help the case.
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Yes, and if you are a known felon then fleeing from an officer is cause for the use of deadly force.

However, the officer must know the suspect is a fleeing felon. Making people felons by fleeing is something altogether different.
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Yeah, not running from the police, obeying traffic laws, not doing illegal drugs...boring eh?
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his mother admitted his guilt by deleting info from his personnel file, mmmmkay?
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She is trying to protect him, of course she is breaking the law doing it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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Witnessed by a cop hater? Yeah he's toast...
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Don't run from the police mmmkay?
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Brief, if you were a man, you would admit that you were wrong, and would learn from the error of your ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


I'm not wrong, don't run from the police...here, learn something:




 Quoting: BRIEF


what if the cop is trying to murder you? you could be wrong....
not all cop are good these days!
 Quoting: psyoptics


Someone calls the police because of a suspicious acting person, so Captain Murder says he'll take this one and shows up to shoot her in the face?
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his mother admitted his guilt by deleting info from his personnel file, mmmmkay?
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She is trying to protect him, of course she is breaking the law doing it...
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he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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Witnessed by a cop hater? Yeah he's toast...
 Quoting: BRIEF


45 cop haters?

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

people don't hate cops. they hate bad cops.
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She is trying to protect him, of course she is breaking the law doing it...
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he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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Witnessed by a cop hater? Yeah he's toast...
 Quoting: BRIEF


45 cop haters?

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

people don't hate cops. they hate bad cops.
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LOL, why not 10,000 witnesses...45 is an absurd number...yeah, cop haters...
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the cops is a capital offense enforced immediately without due process in Amerika
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667


We are living in the age of stupidity, running from the police is stupid. Yes, there are too many laws, but that's where personal responsibility comes in to play...stupid people make stupid decisions...Like running from the police.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, that's your right to ignore the police. The police must have probable cause. You must fit a known description or act in such a way to provide an officer probable cause to prevent you from going about your business.

This is know as the the "Terry Stop Rule." You are under no obligation to answer or even acknowledge an officer unless they provide a cause (explain to you that cause) for interfering in your affairs.

The laws states that an Officer must know his actions are lawful. After all, he is supposed to uphold the law isn't he/she?

Now fleeing from the police for no reason is perfectly legal if they have no probable cause to detain or identify you. However, if you run and have something illegal on you, or you have just done a crime and the cops capture you, then, that fleeing is felony evasion/eluding. Any illegal contraband is also evidence since you did flee.

However, if you don't flee and have illegal crap on you, and the cops don't have probable cause to search you then the evidence, say drugs most likely, becomes unlaw search.

It's a catch 22. This is how I understand the rule of a Terry Stop. Naturally I'm not a lawyer so it isn't legal advice.
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Brief, if you were a man, you would admit that you were wrong, and would learn from the error of your ways.
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I'm not wrong, don't run from the police...here, learn something:




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what if the cop is trying to murder you? you could be wrong....
not all cop are good these days!
 Quoting: psyoptics


Someone calls the police because of a suspicious acting person, so Captain Murder says he'll take this one and shows up to shoot her in the face?
 Quoting: BRIEF

well that seems to what what happened...
now we wait for the trial.
we should be defending what is left of our good police officers. let the courts take the bad ones down.
brief why defend this one?
there is even a busted coverup involved here. let this one rest.
i know there are still many good officers working...trying to do the best they can. stepping up everyday and risking their lives.
but sometimes the cop is wrong. this seems to be one of those times. even his mother thought she needed to BREAK the law to help him and know she is in trouble.
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he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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Witnessed by a cop hater? Yeah he's toast...
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45 cop haters?

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

people don't hate cops. they hate bad cops.
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LOL, why not 10,000 witnesses...45 is an absurd number...yeah, cop haters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


not true. we love cops that shoot zombies. can i get a witness? who will stand up for zombie-shooting cops?
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Come on now guys, if you support running from the police you are supporting the criminals...how many people would she have killed if she lead a high speed chase? We all know how those end...
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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667


We are living in the age of stupidity, running from the police is stupid. Yes, there are too many laws, but that's where personal responsibility comes in to play...stupid people make stupid decisions...Like running from the police.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, that's your right to ignore the police. The police must have probable cause. You must fit a known description or act in such a way to provide an officer probable cause to prevent you from going about your business.

This is know as the the "Terry Stop Rule." You are under no obligation to answer or even acknowledge an officer unless they provide a cause (explain to you that cause) for interfering in your affairs.

The laws states that an Officer must know his actions are lawful. After all, he is supposed to uphold the law isn't he/she?

Now fleeing from the police for no reason is perfectly legal if they have no probable cause to detain or identify you. However, if you run and have something illegal on you, or you have just done a crime and the cops capture you, then, that fleeing is felony evasion/eluding. Any illegal contraband is also evidence since you did flee.

However, if you don't flee and have illegal crap on you, and the cops don't have probable cause to search you then the evidence, say drugs most likely, becomes unlaw search.

It's a catch 22. This is how I understand the rule of a Terry Stop. Naturally I'm not a lawyer so it isn't legal advice.
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Well, when I'm stopped I just talk to the guy and usually get out of it with no problems...never occurred to me to be an idiot and run...
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he was witnessed against. his ass is indicted.
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Witnessed by a cop hater? Yeah he's toast...
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45 cop haters?

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

people don't hate cops. they hate bad cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14708718


LOL, why not 10,000 witnesses...45 is an absurd number...yeah, cop haters...
 Quoting: BRIEF

from the article....
“Without commenting on the particulars of the investigation, over the course of the month of May, this special investigative grand jury heard from more than 45 witnesses, received more than 100 separate exhibits and was presented with reams of documentary evidence,” Fisher said in a news release.
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bump for the special prosecutor for this case, he ruled with integrity




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Running from the police has never been legal, but it is only in recent history that fleeing from the police has become a felony.

That's bullshit and that's all there is to that. People should be free to make mistakes. Police always have the descrition to break off a persuit.

Freedom does not come with more laws, nor more draconian laws, only totalitarianism can come from that and this is what we are receiving by supporting such extremes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4594667


We are living in the age of stupidity, running from the police is stupid. Yes, there are too many laws, but that's where personal responsibility comes in to play...stupid people make stupid decisions...Like running from the police.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, that's your right to ignore the police. The police must have probable cause. You must fit a known description or act in such a way to provide an officer probable cause to prevent you from going about your business.

This is know as the the "Terry Stop Rule." You are under no obligation to answer or even acknowledge an officer unless they provide a cause (explain to you that cause) for interfering in your affairs.

The laws states that an Officer must know his actions are lawful. After all, he is supposed to uphold the law isn't he/she?

Now fleeing from the police for no reason is perfectly legal if they have no probable cause to detain or identify you. However, if you run and have something illegal on you, or you have just done a crime and the cops capture you, then, that fleeing is felony evasion/eluding. Any illegal contraband is also evidence since you did flee.

However, if you don't flee and have illegal crap on you, and the cops don't have probable cause to search you then the evidence, say drugs most likely, becomes unlaw search.

It's a catch 22. This is how I understand the rule of a Terry Stop. Naturally I'm not a lawyer so it isn't legal advice.
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Well, when I'm stopped I just talk to the guy and usually get out of it with no problems...never occurred to me to be an idiot and run...
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That's fine Brief. However, having been around cops most of my life and having worked alongside them in various capacities, I nevertheless am very demanding upon any who approach me. They had better know what they are doing or else I'll see that their superiors know of the incompetence.

That is your duty as a citizen to uphold the law and demand professionalism from any public servant. If it's too hot then get out of the kitchen. A police officer has as much power as they need and sometimes more. We need make no more laws that cave in to the supposed needs of security. You and I are the people whom are supposed to have been the backbone of that security. The Sheriff can call upon any man or woman for assistance and you must render that aid.
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Brief,

Should Cara Knott have run from CHP officer Craig Peyer?

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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Just remember there's a difference between supporting liberty and supporting totalitarianism.
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Brief,

Should Cara Knott have run from CHP officer Craig Peyer?

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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When she was close enough to read the sign around his neck that said "murderer" then probably...but that may not have ended any better...therefore you think all women should run from the police?
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No, but I do think that anyone should be able to slowly drive to a more public location without the fear of being shot.
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Brief running the comedy show this morning!!!
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No, but I do think that anyone should be able to slowly drive to a more public location without the fear of being shot.
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Apparently there were thousands of witnesses so it couldn't have been too secluded...
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No, but I do think that anyone should be able to slowly drive to a more public location without the fear of being shot.
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Apparently there were thousands of witnesses so it couldn't have been too secluded...
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why change the number to 1,000 that was what you posted.
the fact....from the hearing was 45.

really why breif why defend this guy?

by grouping him with all cops this will put a burden on all officers.
like i said most still hold our laws well. follow the rules. protect and serve....us the people.
remember if a cop or cops do wrong...who is on the line for the payout....the cop?
no usually the city or state.
this is money that should have gone elsewhere. and for some cities now they are laying much of their police force off. this is not good. even if the cities cut back on hours.

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Brief,

Should Cara Knott have run from CHP officer Craig Peyer?

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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When she was close enough to read the sign around his neck that said "murderer" then probably...but that may not have ended any better...therefore you think all women should run from the police?
 Quoting: BRIEF


So here we have it, Brief is okay with police officers being serial killers ! He must be disappointed that Craig Peyer was denied parole again ...
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this is money that should have gone elsewhere. and for some cities now they are laying much of their police force off. this is not good. even if the cities cut back on hours.
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It IS good that cities are laying off cops. Cops spend about 20% of their time going after real criminals and the rest is spent harassing average citizens over chickenshit ordinances. Or shooting their dogs, running down pedestrians while speeding, etc.

Fuck the police!
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No, but I do think that anyone should be able to slowly drive to a more public location without the fear of being shot.
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Apparently there were thousands of witnesses so it couldn't have been too secluded...
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why change the number to 1,000 that was what you posted.
the fact....from the hearing was 45.

really why breif why defend this guy?

by grouping him with all cops this will put a burden on all officers.
like i said most still hold our laws well. follow the rules. protect and serve....us the people.
remember if a cop or cops do wrong...who is on the line for the payout....the cop?
no usually the city or state.
this is money that should have gone elsewhere. and for some cities now they are laying much of their police force off. this is not good. even if the cities cut back on hours.
 Quoting: psyoptics


I don't want you guys encouraging the idiots to run from the cops thinking it's the smart thing to do...because it usually results in someone getting hurt...
With freedom comes responsibility.

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