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The Zombie Drug - Walker attack in Miami, FL possible overdose of Angel's Trumpet/Datura/Scopolamine?!

 
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The Zombie Drug - Walker attack in Miami, FL possible overdose of Angel's Trumpet/Datura/Scopolamine?!
The past week the interwebz has been buzzing with the Zombie Attack in Miami:



This crazed lunatic was literally ripping chunks off the victim's face, ate an eyeball, and took multiple gunshot's without hesitation before finally getting killed by Miami PD.

The victim is still in critical condition at the time of this posting and is unlikely to make any substantial recovery.

There has been much speculation though as to WHAT drug the man has consumed...ranging from PCP, Cocaine, LSD, or new designer drugs like Bath Salts.

While browsing through Erowid I came across a few user experiences of Scopolamine AKA Angel's Trumpet. There are different ways to find/consume it and Brugmansia grows wildly all over Florida! There are even several deaths recorded every year by a certain strain in FL it is that toxic!

What is Scopolamine?

It is among the secondary metabolites of plants from Solanaceae (nightshade) family of plants, such as henbane, jimson weed and Angel's Trumpets (Datura or Brugmansia), and corkwood (Duboisia).

Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in very minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Like LSD and PCP Mixed with Insanity


"It was 12:00 am the second night, the watch commander opened the cell to check on me at change of shift. I leapt from flat on my back like a cat and bit him so bad he had to go on work comp then retire. After that, they called me the biter. All the time I was in the padded cell I thought I saw pills all over the floor. I kept eating the pills hoping to come down. I thought there was a bowl of valiums in the middle. It was really the crap hole in the rubber room. Gross.

They took me upstairs the 3rd day to a medical unit. I thought I had a long sword stuck down my pant leg. I was walking with a stiff leg and the cops kept asking why I was walking funny. Over the next 12 hours my toilet was singing do-wop, my towel was Popeye’s kid Sweetpea swinging around the bars, and I was stuck in a standoff between the Hells Angeles and the Black Panthers. I must have killed a dozen men with my sword.

The third night I was afraid to move because I would set off a war and I was right in the line of fire. I lay frozen for at least 10 hours. The Black Panthers kept throwing dead cats into my cell."

[link to www.erowid.org]


The Zombie-Drug


"+3 hours: The walls are breathing, objects are swirling about and taking on living forms, making for a generally nightmarish scenario. Subject has NO INSIGHT WHATSOEVER; these are REAL HALLUCINATIONS, unlike the fanciful visions and distortions that one obtains on indoleamine psychelic drugs. Terrifying.

+4 hours and onwards: Muscles are so weak that even lifting a finger seems to take superhuman strength. Subject feels an oppressive force pinning him down on the bed, paralyzing him. Visual field is completely obscured by various living forms and blurry splotches. Throat is parched; tongue feels sandy. Subject does not know where he is; does not know whether he is even awake or dreaming, does not konw who he is; does not know why he feels so shitty; etc. Subject pledges his soul to the demon who is sittig on him in exchange for a refreshing drink of water. The demon takes his soul, doesn't provide the agreed-upon water. Subject resigns himself to eternal damnation."

[link to www.erowid.org]

3 Weeks In Its Reality

"I grabbed a fly spray bottle and began spraying flea infested areas. The interesting thing was that individual fleas dropped to the floor and died after coming into contact with the spray. I could fully interact with every hallucination. I lay in bed for a while watching white doves swoop back and forth, pecking one another (I’m not sure if they were fighting or playing). They morphed into huge spiders, then again into insects, then, I noticed a red dog tearing a chickens head off a few feet in front of me. I reached out to touch them but my hand went straight through.

Deep into the trip I become aware that I could move inanimate objects without the use of physical contact. Telekinesis seemed perfectly normal in Brug reality. With only a pointed finger I could shift (real) dog toys from one side of the hallway to the other. Each toy had a colourful trail as it drifted across the carpet. 14 hours after ingestion I go to sleep in the living room (there were too many insects in the bedroom)."

[link to www.erowid.org]

Went to Jail and the Hospital

"I ended going down to the Psych Ward at.. I think it was about 4:00am. I stayed in there for 4 days tripping my fucking balls off. I awoke from my sleep the next morning to see bugs crawling out of the light above me; I didnt mind and I just laid there. I then thought I was in my room at my house and my friend was sitting on the foot of the bed staring at me, I then relised I was smoking a cigarette and when I noticed this it and my friend disappeared into thin air! this happend about 3 or 4 times sometimes i could make the cigarette and my friend disappear like a magic trick. I have to say that 4 months before this experience i had to go to rehab in Hilo.

I Have to say I have used shrooms,acid, salvia, LSA plenty of other drugs in my lifetime. Id say this was the strongest trip of my life and I will remember this forever. I would have to agree with everyone else i am not going to use this again and I WARN YOU that this is serious shit, assassins used this and Datura alike for a poison to KILL PEOPLE"

[link to www.erowid.org]

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People are so quick to point the finger at designer drugs and even drugs like marijuana which are proven safer than Alcohol.

Little do they know it is a common garden plant which is very hardy and can grow most places. It grows wild all over North America...please watch the video below to identify what this is and how to avoid it.

All parts of Datura plants contain dangerous levels of poison and may be fatal if ingested by humans or other animals, including livestock and pets.

THE DEVIL'S WEED



The best tactic to take in handling something like this if it starts attacking, is to gather two or more people with a bed sheet or blanket and like a fly swatter, try and wrap this sheet around that person and take them to the floor.

Their physical body temperature will begin to soar, so you might have to pour some cold water on them or briefly ice them to keep their core temperature down to a reasonable level so they do not throw a stroke.

Avoid getting anywhere near their mouths, as they have teeth and will use these to bite you.

As a matter of fact they probably could take your fingers right off.

Your own bodies autoimmune system has destroyed this. All that person is left with is a basic very animal-like mental structure that is hardly even aware of it's surroundings like the person they once were.

They're nothing more now than a low level ape and a very low level one at that, as at least a chimp or a gorilla has some life long skill learning use.

Oh yeah, then you probably want to call 911 or something.

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Last Edited by Vukodlak on 05/30/2012 11:46 AM
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Nice find OP, I think this is the most accurate/possible description of what caused this I have seen.

Weird that no one has even mentioned this as a possibility yet....................

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So you can literally just eat this flowers AND they grow all over FL?? Crazy shit!
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So you can literally just eat this flowers AND they grow all over FL?? Crazy shit!
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Yeah some people make a tea from it and others I guess just ingest the flowers of the plant.

Extremely disturbing results it seems.
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So you can literally just eat this flowers AND they grow all over FL?? Crazy shit!
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Yeah some people make a tea from it and others I guess just ingest the flowers of the plant.

Extremely disturbing results it seems.
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Jimson weed grows all around here in Indiana,if people knew what kind of a high they could get off of it.....eating peoples faces would be normal.
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So you can literally just eat this flowers AND they grow all over FL?? Crazy shit!
 Quoting: Walker Redux 14858001


Yeah some people make a tea from it and others I guess just ingest the flowers of the plant.

Extremely disturbing results it seems.
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Jimson weed grows all around here in Indiana,if people knew what kind of a high they could get off of it.....eating peoples faces would be normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290057


Hopefully stories like the ones I posted above will deter people from doing that, though some idiots will try anything once.
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Photos of different species:

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Very scarey stuffs

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Re: The Zombie Drug - Walker attack in Miami, FL possible overdose of Angel's Trumpet/Datura/Scopolamine?!
I call shenanigans. Yes Jimson Weed (Datura Stramonium) grows all over the country. Yes it is a mild hallucinogen. I drank the tea, smoked it, and ate the seeds ( I dont recommend that). No crazy ass shit happened. No face eating etc.

Datura is a poison! It can effect you adversely, especially your eyesight. I would not recommend that anyone play with it, however I never saw anything like this wacky shit!

Like most drugs .....if you are crazy to begin with, it will bring out the worst in you.
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I call shenanigans. Yes Jimson Weed (Datura Stramonium) grows all over the country. Yes it is a mild hallucinogen. I drank the tea, smoked it, and ate the seeds ( I dont recommend that). No crazy ass shit happened. No face eating etc.

Datura is a poison! It can effect you adversely, especially your eyesight. I would not recommend that anyone play with it, however I never saw anything like this wacky shit!

Like most drugs .....if you are crazy to begin with, it will bring out the worst in you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548467


I think you only took a mild dose of it, when you overdose it has effects beyond that of multiple LSD hits, is more toxic and highly dangerous.

Remember this movie?



It is based on true accounts.

Basically Voodoo priests in Haiti would mix the poison of the Puffer Fish with Datura and give this toxic cocktail to people.

Then they would be buried for a couple days and "resurrected" as virtual zombies by the priests as proof of their "power".

Everything in moderation they say...some more than others.
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Just wanted to post as I fully believe that this theory has strong merit, especially with the last post stating the use of this by voodooish priests and the aforementioned ''ressurection'' rituals.

His girlfriend and multiple other people stated he had made a decision to try and achieve a more religious and ''holy'' lifestyle as of late and was trying to give up weed. The notion that he either a) was susceptible to being given instructions per: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] or b) he sook out someone that performed this ritual whilst searching for some kind of new found religious rebirth of himself, and then just ended up in a delluded drugged out state actually believing his was undead afterwards.

The fact the victim was also homeless makes sense as in this drugged out state he could have been wandering the streets etc.

I mean it's a wild theory which is what makes it so interesting and unlikely for police to look into. So much easier to just say it was a black man on drugs rather than looking into it further.

Also claiming that the drug he was on appears to be like lsd but they haven't pinpointed the exact drug as there is no reason such an underused substance would be on initial drug screens.

Interesting event regardless, which makes me believe theories like this that are even more out there just haven't been looked into as it's already so over the top.
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Just wanted to post as I fully believe that this theory has strong merit, especially with the last post stating the use of this by voodooish priests and the aforementioned ''ressurection'' rituals.

His girlfriend and multiple other people stated he had made a decision to try and achieve a more religious and ''holy'' lifestyle as of late and was trying to give up weed. The notion that he either a) was susceptible to being given instructions per: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] or b) he sook out someone that performed this ritual whilst searching for some kind of new found religious rebirth of himself, and then just ended up in a delluded drugged out state actually believing his was undead afterwards.

The fact the victim was also homeless makes sense as in this drugged out state he could have been wandering the streets etc.

I mean it's a wild theory which is what makes it so interesting and unlikely for police to look into. So much easier to just say it was a black man on drugs rather than looking into it further.

Also claiming that the drug he was on appears to be like lsd but they haven't pinpointed the exact drug as there is no reason such an underused substance would be on initial drug screens.

Interesting event regardless, which makes me believe theories like this that are even more out there just haven't been looked into as it's already so over the top.
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I call shenanigans. Yes Jimson Weed (Datura Stramonium) grows all over the country. Yes it is a mild hallucinogen. I drank the tea, smoked it, and ate the seeds ( I dont recommend that). No crazy ass shit happened. No face eating etc.

Datura is a poison! It can effect you adversely, especially your eyesight. I would not recommend that anyone play with it, however I never saw anything like this wacky shit!

Like most drugs .....if you are crazy to begin with, it will bring out the worst in you.
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Nobody said the drug makes you do crazy stuff, but it does make you very open to suggestion, which in turn could be used to make you do stuff you wouldn't normally do.


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