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Spice, K2, Bath Salts and Their Zombie Effects ...It Doesn't Matter, These Thing Screw Up Your Brain

 
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After seeing how this Spice crap affects people with my own eyes and resulting in a trip to the ER for someone I love dearly, the idea of Zombies and these drugs hit me last fall, I posted this link which connected the two in September, 2011. It looks like my theory wasn't too far off. Here are excerpts from my original post....take note of the last two paragraphs:


"There is something sinister about the fake pot scene. No one can put a finger on its chemical concoctions. There are no 'long-term" studies to offer evidence of safety or non-safety. Seems like the JWH, used as the prefix for numbers of chemicals that John Huffman created when he discovered them in the 90's, is nothing more than his own initials, and the sequence of numbers are assigned accordingly to his 'discoveries". So, just what the hell IS JWH - 018 and so on? Why the mystery?

I watch people I know smoke it and notice alarming changes in them. It seems as though they regress, their intellect drops to less than their shoe size. Everything is as if they are back in a child-like state. Sure, that must feel all warm and fuzzy to them, but to outsiders observing, it is quite unappealing and could pose serious problems from character judgments. Simply put, you are act stupider than you think, so you better just stay home if you want to smoke the stuff. Really.

And please don't tell me that it's not addictive. (I know pot isn't for sure). When you run out of Spice, you run out the door and spend your last ten bucks to get it and hope you get home on the fumes in your gas tank.


Here is another thought you might want to 'chew' on: Zombies. We all have noticed a great pre-occupation and interest in Zombies and a potential Zombie apocalypse in the last few years, right? Even the CDC has made a satirical article on the matter! Well, think about this: Those unidentifiable chemicals in fake pot just might lead to that sort of brain condition. No one knows what the long-term effects of them are. Just like mad-cow disease; no one knew until the symptoms appeared. And then it was too late.

Spice smokers very well could be the for-runners of the Zombie Apocalypse. In essence, they'd be creating the very thing they feared. Ever hear; "What you fear, you revere"? Chew on that awhile.
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Well, I've never smoked SPINCE....

Allow me:

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When somebody is really freaked out on drugs like these, they cannot hear or think things rationally...it is like theya re possessed.
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When somebody is really freaked out on drugs like these, they cannot hear or think things rationally...it is like theya re possessed.
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I wonder what laboratory this shit was spun up in?
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Well, I've never smoked SPINCE....

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LOL! Thanks for the 'heads up"! :) I fixed it.
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I smoked it for a couple months to stay clean for a "drug" test. I can honestly say that I didn't notice a difference in my brain function. There was no intervention from my friends. Nobody said that I was acting stupid.
I quit smoking it without any symptoms of addiction or desires to pick it up again.

OP, you're generalizing.

And you said it yourself...there are no long-term studies to show that there aren't any side-effects.
You know what that means right? There aren't studies to show that there ARE negative side-effects either.

Let me say this again since you seem so sure of it in your post...It was not addictive.

The reason people run right back out the door to get more is because it's legal. It's easier to get. You don't have to deal with sketchy dealers to have it.

That being said...traditional herb is much better. Less harsh to smoke and more relaxing.
Unless you have a "drug" test to pass, just stick to the real thing.
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I smoked it for a couple months to stay clean for a "drug" test. I can honestly say that I didn't notice a difference in my brain function. There was no intervention from my friends. Nobody said that I was acting stupid.
I quit smoking it without any symptoms of addiction or desires to pick it up again.

OP, you're generalizing.

And you said it yourself...there are no long-term studies to show that there aren't any side-effects.
You know what that means right? There aren't studies to show that there ARE negative side-effects either.

Let me say this again since you seem so sure of it in your post...It was not addictive.

The reason people run right back out the door to get more is because it's legal. It's easier to get. You don't have to deal with sketchy dealers to have it.

That being said...traditional herb is much better. Less harsh to smoke and more relaxing.
Unless you have a "drug" test to pass, just stick to the real thing.
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^^^THIS^^^
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Op is a government shill. He knows why.
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OP (I) is/am not a shill. God you idiots are such...well.....idiots.

I witnessed the stuff being smoked for MONTHs on end here in my world of contacts. For the most part everything was fine, no ill effects and yep, much like the good ol' happy weed we all love.

Over time I noticed that this stuff was affecting people different. If they were out, they wanted it....and NOW.

One day, somebody ended up in the ER.

I am not speculating. I am going by my own personal observations.

Go ahead and smoke the shit. There are no long term studies with evidence that it is indeed safe..because there ARE NO LONG TERM STUDIES to say it is. But you ask any staff member of your local ER about the cases that come in from smoking the shit. Or ask your local LEO. They know better.

Not trying to justify anything I am saying, I am simply stating observations and personal experience with people around me.
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I will say that it's a very differnt feeling than you'd get on ganj. It can make you alot more paranoid. It's an intense body high. It lasts a long time too.

I'd like to know what the docs said about your friend that went to the ER. Did he have anything physically wrong with him?
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Whatever happened to good ole fashioned cannabis & lysergic? Anybody who let's the legality of a substance dictate whether they ingest it or not shouldn't be ingesting anything.
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I will say that it's a very differnt feeling than you'd get on ganj. It can make you alot more paranoid. It's an intense body high. It lasts a long time too.

I'd like to know what the docs said about your friend that went to the ER. Did he have anything physically wrong with him?
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Other that projectile puking all over the living room, no.

He was not the person we all know and love. Anyomne here that witnessed all this can tell you. His eyes glazed over and he started grabbing at me like he wanted to rip skin off me. Another here had to restrain him while we called 911. He could not talk right. No actual words came out...just garbled jibbereish. Eyes filled with intense hate.

The doctors at the ER had seen it all before. Kids comes in OD's on some 'legal' fake pot stuff. There is nothing they can do except let it wear off and pass. So that is what we did. Several hours later, released.
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I smoked it for a couple months to stay clean for a "drug" test. I can honestly say that I didn't notice a difference in my brain function. There was no intervention from my friends. Nobody said that I was acting stupid.
I quit smoking it without any symptoms of addiction or desires to pick it up again.

OP, you're generalizing.

And you said it yourself...there are no long-term studies to show that there aren't any side-effects.
You know what that means right? There aren't studies to show that there ARE negative side-effects either.

Let me say this again since you seem so sure of it in your post...It was not addictive.

The reason people run right back out the door to get more is because it's legal. It's easier to get. You don't have to deal with sketchy dealers to have it.

That being said...traditional herb is much better. Less harsh to smoke and more relaxing.
Unless you have a "drug" test to pass, just stick to the real thing.
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IT just Depends on witch Drug They Put In the blend. If you get Crap Pharm Drugs in it, than your brain is being told to do the wrong thing. If you get the Rite Shit, Its Actually acting like a Pharma Drug, and attaching to the CB1 and CB2 Receptors.
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On my original thread in 2011, (link posted in first post here) there are alot of people having problems with these drugs.

I didn't make those stories up! :)
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these drugs are bad. moderation of street drugs is good. people having no self control is bad. blame the person for doing it in the first place, not the drug. If they can't therapeutically treat themselves with the drugs they shouldn't be taking them. To each his own and all things in moderation. penis. also i like to play with dogs on summer evenings. spring is here again. reproductive glands.
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OP, I agree. In the last year in my area there have been too many cases of fathers and mothers attacking and killing their own babies while using these "designer" drugs. My friends 7 year old niece stabbed to death by her step father (a male rn). He claimed she was evil and voices told him to do this to her. She was a sweet little angel who left a twin sister and brother to live in the trauma aftermath. Another father put his 1 year old baby on the ground in front of family and law enforcement and killed baby with shotgun. A mother killed her new baby and disembodied her three weeks ago. I feel uncomfortable writing these stats but it is happening and needs to be stopped NOW! This can't be taken lightly anymore, humanity can not afford to waste any more time looking the other way. There is a reason why they're labeled designer drugs/weed. They have been designed for ill intent, and if you don't believe it are you really willing to have something happen to you or loved one for you to finally believe? Go to ER's and ask around, you will change your mind about the safety of these poisons. They take rational people and turn them ill-rational. Wake up!
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When somebody is really freaked out on drugs like these, they cannot hear or think things rationally...it is like theya re possessed.
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I wonder what laboratory this shit was spun up in?
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And please don't tell me that it's not addictive. (I know pot isn't for sure). When you run out of Spice, you run out the door and spend your last ten bucks to get it and hope you get home on the fumes in your gas tank.



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its funny how you said that spend their last 10 bucks on it and get home on fumes... as my bestfriend i lived with did this everyday and would lie to get money from his mom for gas then come home on fumes and say there is a gas leak... always felt like i was killing myself or doing real harm when i smoked it but when i was trying to quit was when i lived with him and he always had me smoking more, or he would smoke it around me and i would give in, finally away from both and the damage feels permanent... i could smoke a whole OZ easily and could outsmoke all my friends... now i smoke a blunt and flip out, i get soo high i cant stand myself and have all kinds of mini freakouts and panic attacks ontop of all kinds of irrational thoughts, its the legal high all over again... its like i cant escape it sober or high, im just not the person i used to be... sad to say that cause im only 20 and already have so many problems... im ready to die, become a zombie, or killed in some martial law struggle, because my life isnt looking too bright or very lengthy... right now 27 seems like an achievement
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Well, I've never smoked SPINCE....

Allow me:

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I smoked some late last year with a friend. It made me feel extremely uneasy and paranoid. I thought my friends were mocking me and making fun of me. Then their voices started to go all weird and when they spoke to me it just sounded like gibberish.

When i sobered i asked them if they were making weird noises but they both swear they were trying to talk to me.

Never touched it again, but my friend smokes it like its going out of style, he also said that since smoking this artificial stuff, normal marijuana does not get him as high as it use too.
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And please don't tell me that it's not addictive. (I know pot isn't for sure). When you run out of Spice, you run out the door and spend your last ten bucks to get it and hope you get home on the fumes in your gas tank.



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its funny how you said that spend their last 10 bucks on it and get home on fumes... as my bestfriend i lived with did this everyday and would lie to get money from his mom for gas then come home on fumes and say there is a gas leak... always felt like i was killing myself or doing real harm when i smoked it but when i was trying to quit was when i lived with him and he always had me smoking more, or he would smoke it around me and i would give in, finally away from both and the damage feels permanent... i could smoke a whole OZ easily and could outsmoke all my friends... now i smoke a blunt and flip out, i get soo high i cant stand myself and have all kinds of mini freakouts and panic attacks ontop of all kinds of irrational thoughts, its the legal high all over again... its like i cant escape it sober or high, im just not the person i used to be... sad to say that cause im only 20 and already have so many problems... im ready to die, become a zombie, or killed in some martial law struggle, because my life isnt looking too bright or very lengthy... right now 27 seems like an achievement
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Umm well if you feel this way the why not stop smoking all together...why are you so depressed ?....maybe you need to talk to someone....I don't understand why the younger generation is so depressed....I cut hair and I see it on a daily basis plus I have a teenage daughter....I don't get it
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Ive tried Spice b4 with friends. Point blank: High came in like 20 seconds. Very intense. Panic attack very likely. Disturbing thoughts. Thought I was gonna die. I WILL NEVER TRY AGAIN. NEITHER WILL MY FRIENDS. DONT BELIEVE ME, ITS PRETTY CHEAP AT THE SMOKE SHOPS. TRY IT AND SEE
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I thought bath salts gave you more of a hyper high thought I saw it on some discover show
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the k2 and spice are made in china in bulk.its sprinkled on weeds.
bath salts are a chemical that creates flesh eating zombies.
dont compare the two.
too much water is bad also.
lets outlaw stupid people who generalize.
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And please don't tell me that it's not addictive. (I know pot isn't for sure). When you run out of Spice, you run out the door and spend your last ten bucks to get it and hope you get home on the fumes in your gas tank.



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its funny how you said that spend their last 10 bucks on it and get home on fumes... as my bestfriend i lived with did this everyday and would lie to get money from his mom for gas then come home on fumes and say there is a gas leak... always felt like i was killing myself or doing real harm when i smoked it but when i was trying to quit was when i lived with him and he always had me smoking more, or he would smoke it around me and i would give in, finally away from both and the damage feels permanent... i could smoke a whole OZ easily and could outsmoke all my friends... now i smoke a blunt and flip out, i get soo high i cant stand myself and have all kinds of mini freakouts and panic attacks ontop of all kinds of irrational thoughts, its the legal high all over again... its like i cant escape it sober or high, im just not the person i used to be... sad to say that cause im only 20 and already have so many problems... im ready to die, become a zombie, or killed in some martial law struggle, because my life isnt looking too bright or very lengthy... right now 27 seems like an achievement
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Bro I know exactly how you feel. I smoked k2 spice like 3 times and every time I smoked it i had a major panic attack. The third time I smoked it mixed with weed and I was in car wih friends in traffic and felt like I was gonna hop out the car and just go crazy, luckily I previously did drugs like shrooms and extacy so I was able to control the overwhelming feeling, but i tell you that k2 slice was engineered from the devil himself.


Like the other guy said if you don't believe the hype on k2 spice go buy a swisher and a package of k2, smoke it and come back and tell us your experience if your not locked up or sent to a mental institution by then.
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Cousin was addicted to spice, just quit a few days ago after having a heart attack.. and i might have smoked some the other day.. because it made my heart go crazy and i freaked out
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I smoked the K2 shit last summer for about a month...in my opinion it IS addicting and dangerous...

I will never touch that shit again...only good ole ganja for me...ofcourse medical...
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I smoked it for a couple months to stay clean for a "drug" test. I can honestly say that I didn't notice a difference in my brain function. There was no intervention from my friends. Nobody said that I was acting stupid.
I quit smoking it without any symptoms of addiction or desires to pick it up again.

OP, you're generalizing.

And you said it yourself...there are no long-term studies to show that there aren't any side-effects.
You know what that means right? There aren't studies to show that there ARE negative side-effects either.

Let me say this again since you seem so sure of it in your post...It was not addictive.

The reason people run right back out the door to get more is because it's legal. It's easier to get. You don't have to deal with sketchy dealers to have it.

That being said...traditional herb is much better. Less harsh to smoke and more relaxing.

Unless you have a "drug" test to pass, just stick to the real thing.
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^^^THIS^^^
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