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There are certain phenomenon that are substantially backed by obvious evidence, which are not explained by popular physics, such as the fact that massive celestial bodies periodically expand greatly, from the inside out, material created from "nothing".

My dad backs this observation and he is a sr. USGS geologist. We used to talk about expanding earth evidence decades ago and up to about a decade ago when he stopped talking geology.


Where is the youngest crust on the Pacific Plate?

[link to commons.wikimedia.org]

Where are the supposed subduction zones?
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A good Expanding Earth Theory Introduction

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The issue of the "Pacific Subduction Zones" (there are none, there are only zones of rising material) is the bold faced lie cornerstone.

This obvious lie is damming up a series of other science theories accepted as fact, right up to Einstein.

Geologists were among the first group of scientists that got the "cone of silence" placed by the government, from knowledge which became apparent in the 70's.

They hold the most obvious piece of evidence that the whole popular structure of astrophysics from the evolution of stars etc is based on, is seriously lacking.
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How can anyone who looks at this map,

[link to commons.wikimedia.org]


make it in any way make sense with this "theory" which is claimed as fact?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Answer, you can't.

How can the youngest rock of all be in the supposed "subduction" zones?


The idea that the earth has not expanded rapidly from the inside-out, but the common idea that the earth only gains slight mass from meteors, etc., is the Flat Earth idea of the modern age.
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It should be noted that along with gaining sea-floor from this unknown mechanism, the planet is also gaining water.

It might generally be speculated then that when the sun grows through this same process, that it gains hydrogen, and that as Mars grows it will acquire oceans.

(and as Jupiter grows, well, go figure)
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Here is an interesting source I just found, Nikola Tesla's own words in 1935. I have not had time to read it or think about it yet.

[link to en.wikisource.org]

"Condensation of the primary substance is going on continuously, this being in a measure proved, for I have established by experiments which admit of no doubt that the sun and other celestial bodies steadily increase in mass and energy and ultimately must explode, reverting to the primary substance....."
Nikola Tesla

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The Location and Formation of Mountain Chains is as Predicted by Expanding Earth


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A demonstration of the Expansion Process on the Moon


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Paleontological Evidence of Expanding Earth



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Very interesting OP, 5*
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HOW NEUTRINOS ARE CONVERTED INTO HYDROGEN IN MASSIVE CELESTIAL BODIES.

Here Dr. Konstantin Meyl explains how the core of the earth, the Sun, and all large standard planetary bodies is and must be solid metallic hydrogen;

He explains why the core of the earth forms a neutrino shadow;

How the moon forms a neutrino lens to cause faster growth of Earth on a periodic basis, and the relation to ebbs and flows in neutrino flux and earthquakes and expansion cycles;

He also states in so many words, but not directly how crossing the galactic plain could cause a growth cycle if it means crossing neutrino flux;

He states how the Global Warming theory is worthless because neutrino flux is not being taken into account.



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Very interesting OP, 5*
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In the expanding earth model, New Zealand and California are connected land masses way back before oceans

I just discovered that, but funny on an intuitive level I always felt that too.
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NIKOLA TESLA "DISCOVERED" NEUTRINOS, BUT DID NOT NAME THEM AS SUCH, AND STATED THE CERTAINTY OF AN EXPANDING EARTH BASED ON THAT KNOWLEDGE

Here Dr. Konstantin Meyl explains how Nikola Tesla was the true discoverer of Neutrinos and explained their role in causing massive celestial bodies to slowly expand, yet how "Pauly" got credit for the discovery decades later and coined the name Neutrinos.

Meyl explains Tesla's methods of coming to his conclusions, and just about begins to take apart the myth of subduction zones, which he does in the following video.

Meyl explains how the fresh evidence coming from the neutrino detectors threatens popular physical theory.



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So it sounds like according to Konstantin's theory,

*Neutrinos penetrate the earth, but only half come out the other side. The other half get converted to neutrons and become hydrogen atoms.

*The core of the earth is made of solid metallic hydrogen, which has about the same mass and magnetic moment as iron would have under those conditions.

*The outer core is made of nickel mostly.

*Hydrocarbons, water, and other materials are constantly being produced in the upper layers.
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Now let's do some math.

If as according to the dates of the ocean rocks, that between 65,000,000 years ago and now the earth gained 70% of its current surface area;

if we take the earths diameter as 25,000 miles, and multiply by 70% we get 17,500 miles of growth.

17,500 miles divided by 65,000,000 years is .000269 of a mile.

Multiply that by 2580 feet in a mile and that is .69 feet, or about 8 1/2 inches average earth growth in circumference per year.

Since the process is accelerating as more mass is gained lets round that up to one foot of growth in circumference per year.

This may not sound like very rapid expansion, but in geologic terms it is tremendous, far more than a celestial body would gain in this region of space from ordinary material falling in from space.


As noted by Dr. Konstantin, if the source of the added material is neutrinos, then emissions from black holes would play a significant part.

Neutrinos may be the "primary substance" that Tesla intuited and seemed to be speaking of, or play that role.

I'm still sketchy on if the geological evidence indicates periodic growth rather than a constant, but I believe that some overall periodic patterns are evident. It's something I'm not real researched but my dad and other geologist friends have always spoken of periodic patterns.

However the heaviest and most powerful black hole by far in the galaxy is the super-massive black hole at the center, which is spinning at an enormous velocity, and throws out at its plain of spin a thin flat disk that marks the center of the galactic plain.

This disk is shrouded in clouds of material where a great deal of "star birth" also takes place, not to mention it is what gives the whole galaxy its basic shape, like a fried egg.

It is strongly suggested that a thin but powerful flat plain of material, neutrinos I believe, extend out from the super massive black hole out to several times the diameter of the visible galaxy.

If the solar system is passing up and down through this plain of neutrinos in a periodic motion, that could be the most regular periodic source of change in expansion velocity.


The issue of if the solar system is actually about to cross this galactic plain soon, is not something I had investigated back before the issue became so buried in emotion and hyperbole on both sides as we approach 2012, so for the moment I am undecided if that is the case, but in any case 2012 is already upon us.

Haven't heard from my dad in several years to talk about it but those close to him say he has been acting crazy at times.

If the earth were to expand more rapidly in circumference, like several feet in a year, and perhaps more importantly, if the Sun were to expand even more rapidly than the earth in circumference, well that could possibly lead to some noticeable changes within a lifetime.

I obviously am still learning about the subject so your input is welcome.

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Growing a foot a year? 100 ft in 100 years. Would we have noticed?

Everything we thought we knew seems to be in doubt.

Good thread, OP.
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Growing a foot a year? 100 ft in 100 years. Would we have noticed?

Everything we thought we knew seems to be in doubt.

Good thread, OP.
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The amount of proposed growth over short human-like periods of time is small enough to be uncertain or obscured in the politics of science.

The amount of growth is so small per year that it is easy for the average person to think that some strange exotic force, neutrinos turning into neutrons, could account for a "slight" change. It's nothing nearly enough to notice on maps or satellite photos over the years. It would be much more slight than that.


However it would also assume that 65,000,000 years ago, the age of dinosaurs, that the earth was 1/2 of its present mass and gravity, and similar things to be said for all stars and celestial bodies, and THIS would overturn much of modern science in many fields, and most scientist would be forced to go back to the drawing board with their most basic presumptions.

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Makes you wonder why dinosaurs were a billion feet tall.

Stories of giants? (Lower gravity)
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Now the question is, if we entertain this theory. Growth seems to happens slowly. BUT, are there any rapid growth periods?

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Now the question is, if we entertain this theory. Growth seems to happens slowly. BUT, are there any rapid growth periods?
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If there were rapid growth periods, then outside of an odd hit from a neutrino beam from a nearby common black hole, then crossing the galactic plane might be the most likely candidate strong source of neutrinos.

(Don't come back at me on this thread though with "we are" or "we aren't" about to cross the galactic plain, without also bringing as much supportive evidence as possible too to the board, please.)


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Now the question is, if we entertain this theory. Growth seems to happens slowly. BUT, are there any rapid growth periods?
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If there were rapid growth periods, then outside of an odd hit from a neutrino beam from a nearby common black hole, then crossing the galactic plane might be the most likely candidate strong source of neutrinos.

(Don't come back at me on this thread though with "we are" or "we aren't" about to cross the galactic plain, without also bringing as much supportive evidence as possible too to the board, please.)

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... but more direct evidence would be geological.

However I know that if I speak to any of my geologist contacts they will say that sure, there were clear growth spurts in places, that's what earthquakes are after all. It is more a question of overall expansion, and a good 50% of that expansion for the earth appears to now come from the boundry between the American western coastline and the Pacific plates.

This is why the issue of the Pacific-American Subduction Zones truth or myth that these are subduction zones, should underlie this issue more than anything.

As I had heard, the geologist are already back-peddling, changing the California from previous subduction to strike-slip. However I would not be surprised if precise meters placed at both sides show spreading of several inches per year, not strike-slip and certainly not subduction.

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Now look again at this map please, made from data from the 70's through the 80's.

It shows the age of the rock. It shows a history. It reveals motion and direction. Do you generally see spreading or subduction on the Pacific coast?

[link to commons.wikimedia.org]
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To throw a wrench into the works of this theory there are online resources which measure the Schumann resonance real time and it has not changed other than the regular variations that happen day to night and season to season.

If the planet were expanding in any fashion it would be shown by reading the Schumann resonance.
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...So the other main issue to nail down in terms of of circumstantial geologic evidence for Expanding Earth Theory, would be the supposed subduction zones on the western side of the Pacific, near the Asian and Australian continents.

Is there really subduction there? It seems to me that there is a little subduction there in the form trenches, but more of a backing up of material, not at all a circular flow of rock like proposed by the Continental drift theory.

However I would expect to see considerably less or no subduction on the Asian side, than there is spreading on the American side, if the Expanding Earth theory "holds water".
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To throw a wrench into the works of this theory there are online resources which measure the Schumann resonance real time and it has not changed other than the regular variations that happen day to night and season to season.

If the planet were expanding in any fashion it would be shown by reading the Schumann resonance.
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The change of the Schumann resonance with Expanding Earth theory would be so slight as to be unmeasurable, unless you could find out what that resonance was a million years ago, and even a million years would not change the Schumann resonance more than very slightly.
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However the Expanding Earth Theory does throw a monkey wrench into the new-age dogmas of those who like to say that the Earth is or is about to increase in frequency.

According to Tesla and Expanding Earth, the Earth will only continue to decrease in frequency, but the rate of decrease will be so slow as to be unmeasurable.

Expanding Earth is politically incorrect with David Wilcox and those types, let's say...

Never-the-less, this theory if adopted, overturns many apple-carts of popular science ideas.

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To throw a wrench into the works of this theory there are online resources which measure the Schumann resonance real time and it has not changed other than the regular variations that happen day to night and season to season.

If the planet were expanding in any fashion it would be shown by reading the Schumann resonance.
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The change of the Schumann resonance with Expanding Earth theory would be so slight as to be unmeasurable, unless you could find out what that resonance was a million years ago, and even a million years would not change the Schumann resonance more than very slightly.
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Do you understand how it is calculated and what math it is based on?

It is quite accurate and can be even more so if the time is taken to carry the formulas out to further points of precision.

And contrary to the old new age books if your theory were correct it would be decreasing rather than increasing in frequency.

There are many radio transmission schemes and timings that exploit the regularity of the Schumann resonance and at some of the frequencies involved your "slight" variation would be immediately apparent.

That is yet another thing that would be extremely difficult to "cover up" or censor.
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To throw a wrench into the works of this theory there are online resources which measure the Schumann resonance real time and it has not changed other than the regular variations that happen day to night and season to season.

If the planet were expanding in any fashion it would be shown by reading the Schumann resonance.
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The change of the Schumann resonance with Expanding Earth theory would be so slight as to be unmeasurable, unless you could find out what that resonance was a million years ago, and even a million years would not change the Schumann resonance more than very slightly.
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Do you understand how it is calculated and what math it is based on?

It is quite accurate and can be even more so if the time is taken to carry the formulas out to further points of precision.

And contrary to the old new age books if your theory were correct it would be decreasing rather than increasing in frequency.

There are many radio transmission schemes and timings that exploit the regularity of the Schumann resonance and at some of the frequencies involved your "slight" variation would be immediately apparent.

That is yet another thing that would be extremely difficult to "cover up" or censor.
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Uh, no, do YOU understand the math involved? I've got to duck out for a while now, but let me give you a starter.

If 65,000,000 years ago the earth were half it's present mass then it would have a Schumann frequency of one octave lower than it is right now. That is 8,112,500 years to change one note of scale.

For any intents and purposes and means of measurement (The Schumann scale is calculated and tested, but it is not really measured directly), the change due to Expanding Earth over years or decades would be very much unmeasurable.

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Nope, forget about the Schumann scale for evidence, pure bunk.

The most direct evidence for or against expanding earth would be in the measured movements of the Pacific plates in cm and direction, and all averaged out.

If there is any fabrication of date taking place, that is where it would be and the other issues are distraction from the "energy is rising" and govt. disinfo groups.

Got to go now, really...

(Not that frequency cannot be rising for people or a society in different ways with all due respect for people of those views, but not from the Schumann earth frequency, unless the earth is losing more mass than it is gaining, which seems scientifically to be the least probable.)

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Now the question is, if we entertain this theory. Growth seems to happens slowly. BUT, are there any rapid growth periods?
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If there were rapid growth periods, then outside of an odd hit from a neutrino beam from a nearby common black hole, then crossing the galactic plane might be the most likely candidate strong source of neutrinos.

(Don't come back at me on this thread though with "we are" or "we aren't" about to cross the galactic plain, without also bringing as much supportive evidence as possible too to the board, please.)

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I remember posing this question in middle school. I was dumb founded at the idea of our planet being just a rock.

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This is an important video, not directly about Expanding Earth, but how the myth of fossil fuels was started by John D. Rockefeller with no science or evidence basis but using only a twist of semantics to create the myth that petrolium comes from living matter, a ludicrous proposition when simple parameters are considered. Rockefeller did this for purely financial-political motives. The myth of Fossil Fuels has become accepted among schools like religion, with no basis in geological evidence.

I have known a number of professional geologists, most of them directly related somehow to the petroleum industry, and they all have shared the opinion that it is a myth and politically promoted lie that hydrocarbons came from living materials. You could substitute my dad, a top government geologist, for this guy, and he would say the same thing in the same way.

Expanding earth theory apparently explains how these hydrocarbons are continuously formed along with water from the action of neutrinos, and these substances slowly seep to the surface as part of the expansion material.



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But back to the comment about the measurement of the Schumann resonance frequency.

Maybe you know more about this than I, so please give us some references about that test that you say was done.

As far as I know the Schumann resonance frequency is known to a precision one or two decimal places, and even that number is under debate.

Without even running the numbers out on paper I can assure you that the Schumann frequency would need to be measured directly over many years and analyzed at least up to ten decimal places.

If it is possible then it would not be "extremely difficult to "cover up" or censor", but it is plausible to me at the moment that a large organization like HARRP just might be capable of performing such a measurement, although there are a number of factors that still might render such an analysis not capable of generating useful data.

Do this homework for me first.

The Schumann frequency 7.83hz, and others say 7.84hz.

By calculating how the expected Schumann frequency would change a whole octave over the course of 65,000,000 years, an approximation could be made of how much the frequency would change over an extended period of time, maybe ten years for example. This will be a very small amount with many decimal places. (assuming that the earth is in a phase where it is going through at least an average amount of expansion during that ten years, because it may or may not be.)

To conduct an experiment one would first need to measure this frequency directly from the earth, directly and probably uninterruptedly, and all measured with the same ultra precise atomic clock as a reference.

Then an extended run of the waveform from the from the beginning year could be laid on top of the waveform of the latest year, and one could look for a slight shift that would occur of the two waveforms slightly falling out of alignment as evidence.

But from what I know there are far too many other subtle variables and noise in the real measured or deduced Schumann frequency (I am pretty sure it is a deduced number more than directly measured) to yield the very small change predicted by expanding earth, and that would be assuming that the earth is expanding steadily at all times.

The signal is very complex because each layer of the earth, the ocean, and the atmosphere has it's own frequency, all the various forms, materials and shapes on the planet each have their own frequency, even changes in ocean levels far outweigh what the predicted changes of Schumann frequency would be due to Expanding Earth.



In fact the evidence for Expanding Earth is much more obvious for the common person to figure out than getting into Schumann frequency.

The clearest data of all we already have, the maps of the geological ages of the sea-floor and continents.

Where the Expanding Earth theory really finds definition and probability over the Continental Drift theory, is in the map formed by the ages of the rock samples taken from the Pacific, and how all the outer Pacific related continents also fit together perfectly, (but only on a smaller sphere).

In my opinion this Neal Adams video still offers up the clearest and most self-evident evidence of all, even though the evidence supporting Expanding Earth comes from a very broad base of disciplines.

Subduction Zones do not Exist. The false subduction zones of which there has never been a measurement to show subduction, are the cornerstone of the popular scientific lie.

The clearest followup data may or may not be in the hands of the Navy or government oceanography community, it would be in the form of the slight movements of perhaps only centimeters from sensors placed miles apart under the oceans in deep water that take place between the two sides of undersea trenches, especially along the Pacific rim, and especially along those trenches proclaimed as subduction zones, despite the fact that they are formed of the youngest rock on earth.

The evidence is so obvious that it often jumps out at geology students from the incongruity seen in the data of their own text books.

The government may already have the data for the slight movements seen in the Pacific "Subduction" zones but as far as I can ferret out, the real data is being held as classified and few even in the geological community have access to it unless that is their direct occupation. Such sensors exist above the water using lasers, but I am not sure if such technology and precision is even possible under water.

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In as much as Expanding Earth theory is proven to be correct, it may be better to call it "The Expanding Sun theory", because it is likely that the effect that this would have on the sun might affect us on earth more directly and rapidly, in a negative way, than any of the small effects that would take place on the Earth.

According to the theory the change to the Sun (and to Jupiter) would be much more in terms of percentage of mass and energy gained over a given time period, than that of the earth.

If there is a doom scenario in this theory for us in the near term on this planet, then it would probably be that of solar doom. (and might turn out to be similar to the types of doom that Anonymous Astrophysicist was predicting... FWIW)

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