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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4594667 United States 05/31/2012 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YawNn ....this flesh body is gettn beat up....where can we trade these bitchZ in? Quoting: kcdub0184 I know, Huh? Cheap Ass Jerks. I'm gonna complain about the other parts of this crappy design as well. Take the teeth; WTH? Who's idea where those? Shouldn't they be similar to Sharks teeth in that stupid things just continue to be replaced every ten or twelve years? Sheeze, a little more attention to detail would have gone a long ways. |
soulsurvivor User ID: 17026159 United States 05/31/2012 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been confronted by people lately on this forum who keep telling me that "it is a fact" that you either dissipate (one guy's word) or simply cease to exist after you die. Quoting: Sandi_T When I was young, I died several times and was resuscitated. I will speak of one specific incident, because it speaks most to this erroneous "fact" of what happens after our body dies. While I was clinically dead; this meaning no activity of any kind within my body, and no brain activity at all; I followed my foster family down a hallway, through a set of double doors, and around a corner. There, I listened to them argue with the nurse and doctor. When I CHOSE to go back and re-integrate with my body, I told them about the conversation. It took place nowhere near my body. I could not have overheard it with my physical ears. This is because the human body is an INTERFACE with this world. Your awareness does not cease when your brain activity ceases. You cannot interact with the world without it, but you do NOT dissipate and you do NOT lose all awareness... you do not lose self awareness, you do not lose awareness of or interest in your loved ones... just because your avatar/interface has ceased to function. So there you have it, a statement based upon experience of body death, not upon assumption. good way to put it for the young or dumb. Frankly, I'm on another board where most people wouldn't know what "interface" means. Sometimes it's hard to realize what people know or don't know. That's why Jesus taught in parables. I don't know if rolling one's eyes was common back then, but I'm sure he supressed a lot of it. LOL! That's exactly what was happening in The Gospel of Thomas. I often think of him as a George Carlin of his day and time. |
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kcdub0184 User ID: 11813158 United States 05/31/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YawNn ....this flesh body is gettn beat up....where can we trade these bitchZ in? Quoting: kcdub0184 I know, Huh? Cheap Ass Jerks. I'm gonna complain about the other parts of this crappy design as well. Take the teeth; WTH? Who's idea where those? Shouldn't they be similar to Sharks teeth in that stupid things just continue to be replaced every ten or twelve years? Sheeze, a little more attention to detail would have gone a long ways. Lol @sharkteeth...agreed!. Rubbs my cheek, damn toothache. On the other hand, considering the upcoming zombie attacks, shark teeth may be bad idea ;P ~the secret to life is to AwakeN before death~(realizing there is no death)~ ~How would you approach life if you knew your every thought/emotion dictated every aspect of your projected physical reality?~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 05/31/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been confronted by people lately on this forum who keep telling me that "it is a fact" that you either dissipate (one guy's word) or simply cease to exist after you die. Quoting: Sandi_T When I was young, I died several times and was resuscitated. I will speak of one specific incident, because it speaks most to this erroneous "fact" of what happens after our body dies. While I was clinically dead; this meaning no activity of any kind within my body, and no brain activity at all; I followed my foster family down a hallway, through a set of double doors, and around a corner. There, I listened to them argue with the nurse and doctor. When I CHOSE to go back and re-integrate with my body, I told them about the conversation. It took place nowhere near my body. I could not have overheard it with my physical ears. This is because the human body is an INTERFACE with this world. Your awareness does not cease when your brain activity ceases. You cannot interact with the world without it, but you do NOT dissipate and you do NOT lose all awareness... you do not lose self awareness, you do not lose awareness of or interest in your loved ones... just because your avatar/interface has ceased to function. So there you have it, a statement based upon experience of body death, not upon assumption. i appreciate what you are saying. it just seems, so.... mechanical. where is the heart? where is love? seems a bit sterile, perfunctory, and impersonal. jmho |
Sandi_T (OP) User ID: 15828781 United States 05/31/2012 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sandi, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915 If you were outside your body how did you "see" you were in a hall without eyes? How did you "hear" a conversation without ears? Great question! Being in the 'other' dimension so to speak, I guess.. I learned a few things. We think that we only see because we have eyes, or hear because we have ears. But in truth, these things are actually limiters/conduits. While in your body, your 'vision' is channeled through eyes, which actually LIMIT you to three colors. You have red, blue, and yellow rods/cones (don't remember offhand which is rods and which cones). On the other side, however, there are colors that WE CAN'T SEE and don't even have names for. also, our ability to hear while in a body is also curtailed. Science has already proven that there are multitudes of frequencies we are not able to hear. This is not the case when you are in spirit form. So it would seem that these conduits are intended as limiters. They are not our exclusive route to hearing or seeing or feeling, etc. But instead they are intended to limit our hearing, seeing, feeling, etc. Because we have skin and neurons, we experience pain, for example. Without them, we still experience sensations, but not pain. Great question! No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Sandi_T (OP) User ID: 15828781 United States 05/31/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i appreciate what you are saying. it just seems, so.... mechanical. where is the heart? where is love? seems a bit sterile, perfunctory, and impersonal. jmho Quoting: Salt I'm not sure what you're getting at. Does having an interface with the world suddenly mean you are incapable of love? Has that been your personal experience? No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 05/31/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i appreciate what you are saying. it just seems, so.... mechanical. where is the heart? where is love? seems a bit sterile, perfunctory, and impersonal. jmho Quoting: Salt I'm not sure what you're getting at. Does having an interface with the world suddenly mean you are incapable of love? Has that been your personal experience? i have never experienced near-death, or died and then was revived. so, i don't have first-hand experience that way. i have had significant experiences in life, however. not sure if that applies, but i was given some glimpses into who we become after we die. of course, i don't think anybody has died yet - there are no dead people. but, maybe that is another topic for discussion at another time. i don't have a problem with the interface analogy, but the term seems a bit mechanical and sterile. i think we are much, much more than that. interfacing might be a portion of "who" we are, or what we are. but there are multiple layers and dimensions to the definition of the spirit. again, jmho it is wonderful to know that there is no fear in death. great freedom here. |
Sandi_T (OP) User ID: 15828781 United States 05/31/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i appreciate what you are saying. it just seems, so.... mechanical. where is the heart? where is love? seems a bit sterile, perfunctory, and impersonal. jmho Quoting: Salt I'm not sure what you're getting at. Does having an interface with the world suddenly mean you are incapable of love? Has that been your personal experience? i have never experienced near-death, or died and then was revived. so, i don't have first-hand experience that way. i have had significant experiences in life, however. not sure if that applies, but i was given some glimpses into who we become after we die. of course, i don't think anybody has died yet - there are no dead people. but, maybe that is another topic for discussion at another time. i don't have a problem with the interface analogy, but the term seems a bit mechanical and sterile. i think we are much, much more than that. interfacing might be a portion of "who" we are, or what we are. but there are multiple layers and dimensions to the definition of the spirit. again, jmho it is wonderful to know that there is no fear in death. great freedom here. Well, I was talking about a person's body, not about a person. The whole point is that we are not our bodies. If we were our bodies, we'd be gone when it died. If you identify AS your body, then I guess it would seem 'sterile'. However, in that case, you've missed the point of the thread entirely. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14459915 United States 05/31/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sandi, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14459915 If you were outside your body how did you "see" you were in a hall without eyes? How did you "hear" a conversation without ears? Great question! Being in the 'other' dimension so to speak, I guess.. I learned a few things. We think that we only see because we have eyes, or hear because we have ears. But in truth, these things are actually limiters/conduits. While in your body, your 'vision' is channeled through eyes, which actually LIMIT you to three colors. You have red, blue, and yellow rods/cones (don't remember offhand which is rods and which cones). On the other side, however, there are colors that WE CAN'T SEE and don't even have names for. also, our ability to hear while in a body is also curtailed. Science has already proven that there are multitudes of frequencies we are not able to hear. This is not the case when you are in spirit form. So it would seem that these conduits are intended as limiters. They are not our exclusive route to hearing or seeing or feeling, etc. But instead they are intended to limit our hearing, seeing, feeling, etc. Because we have skin and neurons, we experience pain, for example. Without them, we still experience sensations, but not pain. Great question! Thanks for the answer! I don't find any fault with what you have written. I know others have mentioned the movie "Avatar" and certainly this body could be an interface. Another possiblity is from the movie "Total Recall". Our consciousness and thinking could be in a non-physical entity and we are only dreaming this existence. When we die we start to "wake up" and are able to see the full experience we once used to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 05/31/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i appreciate what you are saying. it just seems, so.... mechanical. where is the heart? where is love? seems a bit sterile, perfunctory, and impersonal. jmho Quoting: Salt I'm not sure what you're getting at. Does having an interface with the world suddenly mean you are incapable of love? Has that been your personal experience? i have never experienced near-death, or died and then was revived. so, i don't have first-hand experience that way. i have had significant experiences in life, however. not sure if that applies, but i was given some glimpses into who we become after we die. of course, i don't think anybody has died yet - there are no dead people. but, maybe that is another topic for discussion at another time. i don't have a problem with the interface analogy, but the term seems a bit mechanical and sterile. i think we are much, much more than that. interfacing might be a portion of "who" we are, or what we are. but there are multiple layers and dimensions to the definition of the spirit. again, jmho it is wonderful to know that there is no fear in death. great freedom here. Well, I was talking about a person's body, not about a person. The whole point is that we are not our bodies. If we were our bodies, we'd be gone when it died. If you identify AS your body, then I guess it would seem 'sterile'. However, in that case, you've missed the point of the thread entirely. the body is nothing more than the "earth-suit" and anyone who knows me here is familiar with my stance in the matter. i have posted numerous threads on the subject. and, i think i understand what you mean by the body is an interface, which by definition means the interconnection between "systems." i picked up on the lack of warmth and heart in your description. the body is the temporary vessel which is necessary while we are in this place. i would be interested to know more about what you think the body interfaces. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11717466 United States 05/31/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the One research voodoo zombie and soul harvesting. if a voodoo priest can capture a soul in a bottle, than the entities above them can do much more. crystal locks, mirrors, water are all portals and other things within the fields of illusion |
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Sandi_T (OP) User ID: 15828781 United States 05/31/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the body is nothing more than the "earth-suit" and anyone who knows me here is familiar with my stance in the matter. i have posted numerous threads on the subject. and, i think i understand what you mean by the body is an interface, which by definition means the interconnection between "systems." Quoting: Salt i picked up on the lack of warmth and heart in your description. the body is the temporary vessel which is necessary while we are in this place. i would be interested to know more about what you think the body interfaces. I suppose my personal view of my own body bled through. I am not overly fond of my body because I have lived my entire life with significant pain. The body interfaces the soul with limitation. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Sandi_T (OP) User ID: 15828781 United States 05/31/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread Sandi... I love hearing people`s true experiences and you have a great way of putting it into words.. Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> Thank you, my dear. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 05/31/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the body is nothing more than the "earth-suit" and anyone who knows me here is familiar with my stance in the matter. i have posted numerous threads on the subject. and, i think i understand what you mean by the body is an interface, which by definition means the interconnection between "systems." Quoting: Salt i picked up on the lack of warmth and heart in your description. the body is the temporary vessel which is necessary while we are in this place. i would be interested to know more about what you think the body interfaces. I suppose my personal view of my own body bled through. I am not overly fond of my body because I have lived my entire life with significant pain. The body interfaces the soul with limitation. ah, physical pain. i understand. nothing helps the mind comprehend the separation of spirit and body better than a physical illness. i have muscular dystrophy (adult onset) and it is really a blessing in disguise as far as this is concerned. |
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Cranberry24 User ID: 17031254 Belgium 05/31/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in the process of reading a couple of Buddhist books and the information is simply incredible, confirming many things related to NDE, feelings I've been having lately, seeing in my environment,... It's one of the few true religions imo, it doesn't preach anything believe it or not, nobody gives a flying shit. Having that out of the way, one of the most useful things I've learned so far is to ask non-believers this question: Name me ONE, just ONE thing on this planet that turns from "something" into "nothing" and thus disappears, much like how they want us to believe a human "disappears" after they die. There is not a single thing on this planet that simply goes from "something" into "nothing", nor is there something that comes from "nothing" and turns into "something". Why is this? Because everything we see has always been here just like it ALWAYS WILL BE. Think about your body, where was it before it became what it is today? It was part semen, part ovary, they both came from cells in the human body, those cells were created over the years, thanks to external energies (food etc), but even those humans (your parents) went through that same cycle, and this for a million years. When you die, your PHYSICAL body vanishes indeed, whether you're cremated or buried, the ashes will spread out, feeding the plants that made it possible for you to be born, when you're buried, something similar will happen. CB24SD! |
EnkyTJ User ID: 16290462 Mexico 05/31/2012 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Sandi T I find this thread very interesting due to all the experiences and consequences you all describe! These only reflect the veracity of what I’m about to tell you. First off don’t take me for a religion tard or whatever, I don’t believe in religions I don’t believe in hell nor demons, but one of the posters were absolutely right about some mischievous entities but they are not demons for sure. I’ll start by saying I do believe in God and I do believe a man came in his name and He was a God too, but religions are only men’s invention to control masses. That man who came left a message that was misinterpreted but he had more than 12 apostles there were several followers who succeed to keep the message intact but despite this might sound farfetched believe me it’s true. I’m going to try to explain what’s the real deal with our lives and what we are, I think you would understand it perfectly because you are in the right way to find this truth. Here’s the “story”. There’s only one and unique God that started all, the visible and invisible, you all are well aware of the visible part but believe me the invisible came first. This God has a lot of God’s sons! Creators of universes and realms! Our physical limiters can’t help us understand nor try to sense all those realities but they all exist right now. One of their creations was this universe, well in fact all this universes of physical matter, and they found this physical matter interesting to experience so how can you experience something of a lower density? Well you have to be a part of that lower density and to achieve that you need a physical form (here comes the interface as you said) but the deal was to experience this matter existence so plentifully that there should be nothing to interfere with this experience so God decide to let any one of their sons who wants to become a creator God experience this realm by born in to matter but almost disconnected from the spiritual world so you can focus on material but God’s plan was to share this experience with you, hidden inside you he descended in a tiny little form and set in to start this adventure. When do this happened? When you took your first moral decision he descended in to you this is when the spark of awareness lights on. Due to all this we often believe there’s no God and no afterlife but for those who experience NDE’s realize we are spiritual beings cohabiting in a physical vessel and this vessel is limited to matter but once you left this body your true self wakes up from this ride! This is why you don’t feel afraid to die anymore, this is only a “game” were your true self can not die, just live and enjoy everything in life because you won’t return again, it’s a one time offer, a one life game, a one ride ticket! Why? Well it’s hard to explain but if you want to know more about this story let me know and I’ll keep posting. There’s too much to absorb that can not be written in one post but this is the general idea, if you want more detail throw me a question. lehaim |
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WeAreOne User ID: 17012184 United Kingdom 05/31/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are two times in your life when your brain produces huge amounts of DMT; At birth and on death. There is a reason why a chemical your brain naturally produces every single night is illegal; it opens you up and lets you see/experience what's waiting. Geometry, colours, light, waves, sound... beauty like no other. Last Edited by WeAreOne on 05/31/2012 02:00 PM Be the change you want the World to be. Be |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526634 United States 05/31/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think all the stories of consciousness remaining after death can be dismissed. But the scary thing I just read, I was reading an interview with Al Jourgensen in Rue Morgue Magazine. He's been a raging junkie/hedonist for years and has died three times. He said the first time, sure enough, he was floating above his body looking down at the scene. Second time, same thing. But the third time, nothing. He just woke up from oblivion. So, what, you only get three strikes and you're out?! |
WretchedHollywood User ID: 3324945 United States 05/31/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE PROJECTION ARGUMENT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16083263 The soul is a manifestation of a physical body. Therefore, when people almost die, the manifestation can wonder about, still being produced by the disabled, but still alive body. Upon returning to consciousness, they have memories of wondering about. This does not rule out the possibility that when a person dies and is not resuscitated, that this projection, deteriorates with the body. So while astral projection is cool. It does not prove the existence of an afterlife. +1 People who've had NDE's and OBE's, it does not prove the existence of an afterlife, infact it just creates more questions than it answers. The denial by those people of this point just proves it creates another set of believers.. amazing how manipulative emotion can be. I've had numerous spontaneous OBEs...I am fascinated by the accounts of others, whether OBE or NDE. One thing is for sure (for me) the experiences show me just how limited religion is. It made me run in the other direction. Whether or not there is an afterlife-my gut tells me there is, however, I don't know. I hope so. "doesn't it make you feel better?" |