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Your Body is Just an Interface

 
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I keep asking myself why i picked THIS body and THIS life layout. I totally remember picking my parents and I knew they would kinda suck but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407980


Excellent question! You’ve just started to wake up!
When you were in spiritual form and decided to descend to this realm in physical form you accepted all the clauses, they were simple, just to experience life! Nothing else is important. Here you are free to believe in what you want, to do anything you want even if those decisions might affect others, you are expose to all the elements, to all kind of belief systems, to the laws of nature and to the laws of man. Only you decided to come here that’s why is futile to blame God or others for your life. When you return to spiritual self you’ll realize this was an amazing experience and you won’t feel hate, pain or any of those bad feelings and certainly you won’t even feel time because you’ll return to the No Time reality, were everything was is and will be at the same time.
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If consciousness exists for all of us now, then there is no reason to think it would cease when these bodies die. Whether or not we retain our memories and identities is another story.

All tards that believe in eternal hell and a boring heaven with their crappy Gods do the work of evil every time they share their moronic beliefs.

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I keep asking myself why i picked THIS body and THIS life layout. I totally remember picking my parents and I knew they would kinda suck but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407980


Excellent question! You’ve just started to wake up!
When you were in spiritual form and decided to descend to this realm in physical form you accepted all the clauses, they were simple, just to experience life! Nothing else is important. Here you are free to believe in what you want, to do anything you want even if those decisions might affect others, you are expose to all the elements, to all kind of belief systems, to the laws of nature and to the laws of man. Only you decided to come here that’s why is futile to blame God or others for your life. When you return to spiritual self you’ll realize this was an amazing experience and you won’t feel hate, pain or any of those bad feelings and certainly you won’t even feel time because you’ll return to the No Time reality, were everything was is and will be at the same time.
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Don't assume it was your decision. You might just be in a cosmic prison. Anything is possible.
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I don't think all the stories of consciousness remaining after death can be dismissed.

But the scary thing I just read, I was reading an interview with Al Jourgensen in Rue Morgue Magazine.
He's been a raging junkie/hedonist for years and has died three times.

He said the first time, sure enough, he was floating above his body looking down at the scene.

Second time, same thing.

But the third time, nothing. He just woke up from oblivion.

So, what, you only get three strikes and you're out?!
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No, it's just a question of what you remember afterwards. He didn't remember it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

There is no 'out'.
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I keep asking myself why i picked THIS body and THIS life layout. I totally remember picking my parents and I knew they would kinda suck but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407980


Excellent question! You’ve just started to wake up!
When you were in spiritual form and decided to descend to this realm in physical form you accepted all the clauses, they were simple, just to experience life! Nothing else is important. Here you are free to believe in what you want, to do anything you want even if those decisions might affect others, you are expose to all the elements, to all kind of belief systems, to the laws of nature and to the laws of man. Only you decided to come here that’s why is futile to blame God or others for your life. When you return to spiritual self you’ll realize this was an amazing experience and you won’t feel hate, pain or any of those bad feelings and certainly you won’t even feel time because you’ll return to the No Time reality, were everything was is and will be at the same time.
 Quoting: EnkyTJ 16290462


Don't assume it was your decision. You might just be in a cosmic prison. Anything is possible.
 Quoting: BossBattles


Believe me it's always our decision to come here, but here on earth we are subject to others decisions too that’s why you feel that it wasn’t your decision at all! When you are young, your adult parents or almost any adult takes decisions for you so you feel upset for not letting you take your own decisions and those decisions some adults takes molds your thinking, behavior and decisions as well. It’s a big chain of events that never will broke until you die
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Hello Sandi T I find this thread very interesting due to all the experiences and consequences you all describe! These only reflect the veracity of what I’m about to tell you. First off don’t take me for a religion tard or whatever, I don’t believe in religions I don’t believe in hell nor demons, but one of the posters were absolutely right about some mischievous entities but they are not demons for sure. I’ll start by saying I do believe in God and I do believe a man came in his name and He was a God too, but religions are only men’s invention to control masses. That man who came left a message that was misinterpreted but he had more than 12 apostles there were several followers who succeed to keep the message intact but despite this might sound farfetched believe me it’s true.

I’m going to try to explain what’s the real deal with our lives and what we are, I think you would understand it perfectly because you are in the right way to find this truth.
Here’s the “story”. There’s only one and unique God that started all, the visible and invisible, you all are well aware of the visible part but believe me the invisible came first. This God has a lot of God’s sons! Creators of universes and realms! Our physical limiters can’t help us understand nor try to sense all those realities but they all exist right now. One of their creations was this universe, well in fact all this universes of physical matter, and they found this physical matter interesting to experience so how can you experience something of a lower density? Well you have to be a part of that lower density and to achieve that you need a physical form (here comes the interface as you said) but the deal was to experience this matter existence so plentifully that there should be nothing to interfere with this experience so God decide to let any one of their sons who wants to become a creator God experience this realm by born in to matter but almost disconnected from the spiritual world so you can focus on material but God’s plan was to share this experience with you, hidden inside you he descended in a tiny little form and set in to start this adventure. When do this happened? When you took your first moral decision he descended in to you this is when the spark of awareness lights on.
Due to all this we often believe there’s no God and no afterlife but for those who experience NDE’s realize we are spiritual beings cohabiting in a physical vessel and this vessel is limited to matter but once you left this body your true self wakes up from this ride! This is why you don’t feel afraid to die anymore, this is only a “game” were your true self can not die, just live and enjoy everything in life because you won’t return again, it’s a one time offer, a one life game, a one ride ticket! Why? Well it’s hard to explain but if you want to know more about this story let me know and I’ll keep posting. There’s too much to absorb that can not be written in one post but this is the general idea, if you want more detail throw me a question.

lehaim
 Quoting: EnkyTJ 16290462


This is very close to what I was taught during NDE, though aspects are missing from your account.

But a lot of good stuff there. hf
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I keep asking myself why i picked THIS body and THIS life layout. I totally remember picking my parents and I knew they would kinda suck but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407980


I want to share something that few people know...

I had a guide that said she was my Mum's unborn child. For proof I asked her to tell me 20 things I would not know but my mum would.

When I asked my mum these questions they were ALL correct. The last question confused me. It was:

"You [my mum] are being protected again. Show a photo of your Dad and you will both see".

My Mum showed me the picture of her Dad and if you put us side by side you couldn't tell us apart. We are a spitting image of each other... there is just one, small, problem... I'm adopted!

I honestly believe we choose to be with people we have loved before. My Mum could not have children so this was the only way her Dad could get back into this family.

It isn't just about parents, it's much bigger. You are probably connected in a number of ways to a number of people within your family. There are sometimes limitations and you need to go through others to get where you wanted to be. I would imagine you are very close to others within the family, more so than your parents.

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If our consciousness lives on after we die, why isn't it aware when we are asleep (other than our dreams)?
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Hello Sandi T I find this thread very interesting due to all the experiences and consequences you all describe! These only reflect the veracity of what I’m about to tell you. First off don’t take me for a religion tard or whatever, I don’t believe in religions I don’t believe in hell nor demons, but one of the posters were absolutely right about some mischievous entities but they are not demons for sure. I’ll start by saying I do believe in God and I do believe a man came in his name and He was a God too, but religions are only men’s invention to control masses. That man who came left a message that was misinterpreted but he had more than 12 apostles there were several followers who succeed to keep the message intact but despite this might sound farfetched believe me it’s true.

I’m going to try to explain what’s the real deal with our lives and what we are, I think you would understand it perfectly because you are in the right way to find this truth.
Here’s the “story”. There’s only one and unique God that started all, the visible and invisible, you all are well aware of the visible part but believe me the invisible came first. This God has a lot of God’s sons! Creators of universes and realms! Our physical limiters can’t help us understand nor try to sense all those realities but they all exist right now. One of their creations was this universe, well in fact all this universes of physical matter, and they found this physical matter interesting to experience so how can you experience something of a lower density? Well you have to be a part of that lower density and to achieve that you need a physical form (here comes the interface as you said) but the deal was to experience this matter existence so plentifully that there should be nothing to interfere with this experience so God decide to let any one of their sons who wants to become a creator God experience this realm by born in to matter but almost disconnected from the spiritual world so you can focus on material but God’s plan was to share this experience with you, hidden inside you he descended in a tiny little form and set in to start this adventure. When do this happened? When you took your first moral decision he descended in to you this is when the spark of awareness lights on.
Due to all this we often believe there’s no God and no afterlife but for those who experience NDE’s realize we are spiritual beings cohabiting in a physical vessel and this vessel is limited to matter but once you left this body your true self wakes up from this ride! This is why you don’t feel afraid to die anymore, this is only a “game” were your true self can not die, just live and enjoy everything in life because you won’t return again, it’s a one time offer, a one life game, a one ride ticket! Why? Well it’s hard to explain but if you want to know more about this story let me know and I’ll keep posting. There’s too much to absorb that can not be written in one post but this is the general idea, if you want more detail throw me a question.

lehaim
 Quoting: EnkyTJ 16290462


This is very close to what I was taught during NDE, though aspects are missing from your account.

But a lot of good stuff there. hf
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Yes I know! I just write a long story short but I’ll try to fill the missing parts when the right time comes.rolleyes
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These body-suits are so limiting cool2
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Interface!
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Sandi,

If you were outside your body how did you "see" you were in a hall without eyes? How did you "hear" a conversation without ears?
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The Higher Ups, the ones who designed this Matrix/Womb and bodies.

They are like a computer programmer and they can only code what they know. I've heard some say, there is no Love because that is bio chemicals.

Really?

There are infinite colors, sounds, sights, experiences.

It only gets better.

All of it is soul thing, if anything the body suit limits what you see, hear, taste and experience, for each is on a frequency vibration and limit.
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And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

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Hello Sandi T I find this thread very interesting due to all the experiences and consequences you all describe! These only reflect the veracity of what I’m about to tell you. First off don’t take me for a religion tard or whatever, I don’t believe in religions I don’t believe in hell nor demons, but one of the posters were absolutely right about some mischievous entities but they are not demons for sure. I’ll start by saying I do believe in God and I do believe a man came in his name and He was a God too, but religions are only men’s invention to control masses. That man who came left a message that was misinterpreted but he had more than 12 apostles there were several followers who succeed to keep the message intact but despite this might sound farfetched believe me it’s true.

I’m going to try to explain what’s the real deal with our lives and what we are, I think you would understand it perfectly because you are in the right way to find this truth.
Here’s the “story”. There’s only one and unique God that started all, the visible and invisible, you all are well aware of the visible part but believe me the invisible came first. This God has a lot of God’s sons! Creators of universes and realms! Our physical limiters can’t help us understand nor try to sense all those realities but they all exist right now. One of their creations was this universe, well in fact all this universes of physical matter, and they found this physical matter interesting to experience so how can you experience something of a lower density? Well you have to be a part of that lower density and to achieve that you need a physical form (here comes the interface as you said) but the deal was to experience this matter existence so plentifully that there should be nothing to interfere with this experience so God decide to let any one of their sons who wants to become a creator God experience this realm by born in to matter but almost disconnected from the spiritual world so you can focus on material but God’s plan was to share this experience with you, hidden inside you he descended in a tiny little form and set in to start this adventure. When do this happened? When you took your first moral decision he descended in to you this is when the spark of awareness lights on.
Due to all this we often believe there’s no God and no afterlife but for those who experience NDE’s realize we are spiritual beings cohabiting in a physical vessel and this vessel is limited to matter but once you left this body your true self wakes up from this ride! This is why you don’t feel afraid to die anymore, this is only a “game” were your true self can not die, just live and enjoy everything in life because you won’t return again, it’s a one time offer, a one life game, a one ride ticket! Why? Well it’s hard to explain but if you want to know more about this story let me know and I’ll keep posting. There’s too much to absorb that can not be written in one post but this is the general idea, if you want more detail throw me a question.

lehaim
 Quoting: EnkyTJ 16290462


That is not quite correct...

You, the true you, your higher self/soul is an energy being exploring the universe... At some point in your explorations, you came across the various galaxies, the milky way and others...

It is an avenue, adventure you could opt to take for growth...Participation would temporarily cost you the memories of who you are, and the galaxy would be all you know, and you choose one of two paths, the hu-man or nature path...You agreed, chose your path, and here you are...

You are positioned in the galaxy at a high vibration, you extend a stream from yourself, at a lower vibrational rate, to animate a body at an even lower vibration rate...

The galaxy is such, that the nature of 3rd density is birth, growth, decay, and death... It is not possible to gain enough experiential experience, by animating one body, even if that body lived for 10,000 years... You extend the stream over and over again, with no limitations on the amount... You do what is necessary for your growth...

Most people on earth do not have a strong sense of their spirit self... There are several reasons for this - In part, it is due to the genetic alterations done to earthers in our ancient past (original 12 strand dna structure, reduced to 2, with the remaining 10 strands cut up, and classified as junk dna in the body)... In part, the aliens responsible for the genetic alterations, took advantage of the diminished spiritual awareness, and set up many dead ends in their religious hierarchy...

But, in large part - it is due to the path of your higher self/soul, and the role you play in the plan...

Earth is a very unique planet in this galaxy, a one at a time occurence, designed by the galaxy game creators...An opportunity for those higher self's who advanced to certain stages in their spiritual growth, to take a GIANT leap to a fast track, and complete the game...

This planet is the home of the "simultaneous" incarnating...
Not one stream at a time, upwards of 1500 may be operating simultaneously, in all astrological signs, in all races, in all time periods, in all social status, in both polarities, some very basic, some very advanced, some very religious, some not religious at all...

It is the combination of all experiences flowing simultaneously into the higher self, that produces the balanced, high vibrational cluster, that is needed to finish off the game, and graduate...

This planet is rapidly concluding it's purpose, for both the simultaneous, and nature path higher self operating on this planet... This planet will close, and another will open up...

Hope some of you are on the graduation path - it will be a phenomenal party!!!
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If our consciousness lives on after we die, why isn't it aware when we are asleep (other than our dreams)?
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Our spiritual self is always aware even if you are not aware, your dreams are results of your physical mind processing images and experiences. How do they form?

1. Your own experiences during the day
2. Experiences of others that were known by you and if they were impressive they stick in your mind
3. Memories and old experiences
4. Emotions and feelings yours and some other’s feelings
5. Imagination to try to bind all this altogether in one dream even if it’s nonsensical
6. Premonitions and foreseeing events

All this can form a dream, your mind is like a computer with a cleansing software that every night runs an auto diagnose to store information leftovers but logical mind tries to find an association of all this information and tries to bind it in one story, that’s why some dreams are really freaky and/or irrational. The magic of this is to find the pearl within your dreams, on number 6 I’m enumerating premonitions and foreseeing, this is a natural ability our mind has but it’s not controlled by our conscience mind so only in dreams can activate, you must clean your dream from the first 5 points to find the “pearl”.
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i think i have the joy stick thing figured out...
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Describe how you were 'clinically dead'.


What happened?
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I was strangled and they tried to resuscitate me. The ambulance came and they managed to keep my heart beating by compression. At the hospital, I was declared dead and had neither brain waves nor heart beat.

I chose to go back to my body when the being who was with me told me, "It's time. Will you go back?"

I said, "yes" and went back.
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You made up this story about being dead.
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You are lying.
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No.

I agree about the 'interface', to some extent.

But, you made up the story about dying yourself.
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I was strangled and they tried to resuscitate me. The ambulance came and they managed to keep my heart beating by compression. At the hospital, I was declared dead and had neither brain waves nor heart beat.

I chose to go back to my body when the being who was with me told me, "It's time. Will you go back?"

I said, "yes" and went back.
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You made up this story about being dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1417129


You are lying.
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No.

I agree about the 'interface', to some extent.

But, you made up the story about dying yourself.
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You are lying. Rather pointlessly, too.
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we are 3d holographic beings , the matrix is the wool pulled over your eyes , eyes that deceive you, mislead you and confuse you, the pineal is openning up in alot , the curtain is gonna fall, and then the show will begin. where,s the popcorn.????
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Hello Sandi T I find this thread very interesting due to all the experiences and consequences you all describe! These only reflect the veracity of what I’m about to tell you. First off don’t take me for a religion tard or whatever, I don’t believe in religions I don’t believe in hell nor demons, but one of the posters were absolutely right about some mischievous entities but they are not demons for sure. I’ll start by saying I do believe in God and I do believe a man came in his name and He was a God too, but religions are only men’s invention to control masses. That man who came left a message that was misinterpreted but he had more than 12 apostles there were several followers who succeed to keep the message intact but despite this might sound farfetched believe me it’s true.

I’m going to try to explain what’s the real deal with our lives and what we are, I think you would understand it perfectly because you are in the right way to find this truth.
Here’s the “story”. There’s only one and unique God that started all, the visible and invisible, you all are well aware of the visible part but believe me the invisible came first. This God has a lot of God’s sons! Creators of universes and realms! Our physical limiters can’t help us understand nor try to sense all those realities but they all exist right now. One of their creations was this universe, well in fact all this universes of physical matter, and they found this physical matter interesting to experience so how can you experience something of a lower density? Well you have to be a part of that lower density and to achieve that you need a physical form (here comes the interface as you said) but the deal was to experience this matter existence so plentifully that there should be nothing to interfere with this experience so God decide to let any one of their sons who wants to become a creator God experience this realm by born in to matter but almost disconnected from the spiritual world so you can focus on material but God’s plan was to share this experience with you, hidden inside you he descended in a tiny little form and set in to start this adventure. When do this happened? When you took your first moral decision he descended in to you this is when the spark of awareness lights on.
Due to all this we often believe there’s no God and no afterlife but for those who experience NDE’s realize we are spiritual beings cohabiting in a physical vessel and this vessel is limited to matter but once you left this body your true self wakes up from this ride! This is why you don’t feel afraid to die anymore, this is only a “game” were your true self can not die, just live and enjoy everything in life because you won’t return again, it’s a one time offer, a one life game, a one ride ticket! Why? Well it’s hard to explain but if you want to know more about this story let me know and I’ll keep posting. There’s too much to absorb that can not be written in one post but this is the general idea, if you want more detail throw me a question.

lehaim
 Quoting: EnkyTJ 16290462


That is not quite correct...

You, the true you, your higher self/soul is an energy being exploring the universe... At some point in your explorations, you came across the various galaxies, the milky way and others...

It is an avenue, adventure you could opt to take for growth...Participation would temporarily cost you the memories of who you are, and the galaxy would be all you know, and you choose one of two paths, the hu-man or nature path...You agreed, chose your path, and here you are...

You are positioned in the galaxy at a high vibration, you extend a stream from yourself, at a lower vibrational rate, to animate a body at an even lower vibration rate...

The galaxy is such, that the nature of 3rd density is birth, growth, decay, and death... It is not possible to gain enough experiential experience, by animating one body, even if that body lived for 10,000 years... You extend the stream over and over again, with no limitations on the amount... You do what is necessary for your growth...

Most people on earth do not have a strong sense of their spirit self... There are several reasons for this - In part, it is due to the genetic alterations done to earthers in our ancient past (original 12 strand dna structure, reduced to 2, with the remaining 10 strands cut up, and classified as junk dna in the body)... In part, the aliens responsible for the genetic alterations, took advantage of the diminished spiritual awareness, and set up many dead ends in their religious hierarchy...

But, in large part - it is due to the path of your higher self/soul, and the role you play in the plan...

Earth is a very unique planet in this galaxy, a one at a time occurence, designed by the galaxy game creators...An opportunity for those higher self's who advanced to certain stages in their spiritual growth, to take a GIANT leap to a fast track, and complete the game...

This planet is the home of the "simultaneous" incarnating...
Not one stream at a time, upwards of 1500 may be operating simultaneously, in all astrological signs, in all races, in all time periods, in all social status, in both polarities, some very basic, some very advanced, some very religious, some not religious at all...

It is the combination of all experiences flowing simultaneously into the higher self, that produces the balanced, high vibrational cluster, that is needed to finish off the game, and graduate...

This planet is rapidly concluding it's purpose, for both the simultaneous, and nature path higher self operating on this planet... This planet will close, and another will open up...

Hope some of you are on the graduation path - it will be a phenomenal party!!!
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This is closer to the true than your New Age story, I do believe in life in the universe, plenty of life and your right about the earth being a unique world but we will not return here because there’s a lot of planes of existences this is only the first step up on the stairway to God or Heaven if you will, but don’t misinterpret my words, I’m not talking about religitard heaven but God reality heaven it’s way so different! We don’t need to come back to earth because we are not living in just one universe! Our higher spiritual self is connected to all the parallel universes were another you is living thus experiencing different situations on each universe so no need to come back! Right now you are only aware of this body but your spiritual self is aware of all the bodies were you incarnate on parallel universes (this is why we believe we’ve lived in a past life but it’s not true, what really happens is that in some other universe you were living in different time frame than this and your life ended there so your higher conscience take notice of this), this is the big secret no religion has ever known, it is until now that science discovered the multi universe reality that we can understand this! So you see, there’s no need to reincarnation! This is one multi universe experience and after you die in all of them you step in to the next level to experience another plane of existence way different than this, so different that we can not even imagine that reality, there’s nothing in this reality that resembles the next so the only perpetual factor here is YOU
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When I was young, I died several times and was resuscitated.
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You did not die then. Death, in the context of 'life after' is a state from which no living thing 'returns'. Anything else is not death. It is 'near-death'

All you experienced were states of your traumatised mind.

Sorry to burst your little bubble.
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When I was young, I died several times and was resuscitated.
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You did not die then. Death, in the context of 'life after' is a state from which no living thing 'returns'. Anything else is not death. It is 'near-death'

All you experienced were states of your traumatised mind.

Sorry to burst your little bubble.
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You are wrong.

Near Death Experience is now considered any time that someone almost dies, or thinks they are going to die.

That was not my experience. I died. No brain activity, no bodily functions. Zero, zip, nada.

I went to the AFTERLIFE and returned.

You don't get to define things your way. Science clearly states that the end of brain function is death, not "but only if you never function again".

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The body-interface is a nice conceit. However, the full picture is a bit more colourful.

The key is the consciousness, and that fact is missing badly from this thread. You can think what you want, but the present consciousness of yours (and others, of course) will disappear after the death of the physical body (=the rough substance and the two dense etheric layers). The other parts (the remaining etheric, astral and mental bodies with the consciousness) will be broken up (dissolved) in 1-2 years. Some entities can extend the dissolvement of their consciousness for even many hundred years with disgusting activity, but they will also disappear, too.

The soul is immortal, there is no question about it. But you are not the soul. Your consciousness is not the sense of the immortal soul, I'm sorry to say.

Those, who are afraid of the death, and those, who are not, will disappear both. The soul will only store a small imprint of "us" but that is all.

Luckily, it is not the whole story. Those, who are succesfull in handing over their awareness to the Soul can became a drop of water in the Sea of Life. BUT, you should transform. The process of transformation has been taught for infinite ages by those, who already has managed to do the transformation earlier times.

My 2 cents: use your interface properly, since there is no automated salvation. Everybody should work for its own. Those, who are using their interface for watching/hearing fairy tails in the opressor's kindergarten, or consuming MMO and/or other physical drugs - well, they misuse their interface. There is free will in this planet, so they can do it. It is their right. But they do not HAVE TO. It is their chance.

You are a nice soul. Lets see each other in the Light. hf
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Life is just a "class" you take to prepare you for the next stage.
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after my husband died, the following day, he came to me. i know that sounds nuts, but it was such an amazing gift. he came right up to me, swirled around me a few times, and i could feel him - pure energy with all of his essence still there, only free, and electric, and pure. full of joy and excitement, almost like a child. his personality was still there, only supercharged. like a super free, pure energy, turbo charged electric smile. can't really explain. i was so overcome that i fell to my knees (it was in the middle of the street, btw). he gave me this awareness so i would know that he was ok, what he is like now, and to not fear dying. the experienced gave me everything i needed to know, a full comprehension of it, with one brief experience. a true and divine gift.
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Dear OP
The body-interface is a nice conceit. However, the full picture is a bit more colourful.

The key is the consciousness, and that fact is missing badly from this thread. You can think what you want, but the present consciousness of yours (and others, of course) will disappear after the death of the physical body (=the rough substance and the two dense etheric layers). The other parts (the remaining etheric, astral and mental bodies with the consciousness) will be broken up (dissolved) in 1-2 years. Some entities can extend the dissolvement of their consciousness for even many hundred years with disgusting activity, but they will also disappear, too.

The soul is immortal, there is no question about it. But you are not the soul. Your consciousness is not the sense of the immortal soul, I'm sorry to say.

Those, who are afraid of the death, and those, who are not, will disappear both. The soul will only store a small imprint of "us" but that is all.

Luckily, it is not the whole story. Those, who are succesfull in handing over their awareness to the Soul can became a drop of water in the Sea of Life. BUT, you should transform. The process of transformation has been taught for infinite ages by those, who already has managed to do the transformation earlier times.

My 2 cents: use your interface properly, since there is no automated salvation. Everybody should work for its own. Those, who are using their interface for watching/hearing fairy tails in the opressor's kindergarten, or consuming MMO and/or other physical drugs - well, they misuse their interface. There is free will in this planet, so they can do it. It is their right. But they do not HAVE TO. It is their chance.

You are a nice soul. Lets see each other in the Light. hf
Regards,
S.
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I'm not sure where you get this idea, but it is not at all what I was shown by the Great Intelligence that created everything.

Nor does it in any way resonate to me of truth.

I did enjoy reading it, however. hf
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When I was young, I died several times and was resuscitated.
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You did not die then. Death, in the context of 'life after' is a state from which no living thing 'returns'. Anything else is not death. It is 'near-death'

All you experienced were states of your traumatised mind.

Sorry to burst your little bubble.
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Maybe she indeed die! Sandi T told you she didn’t had any brain or physical activity so technically she was dead, what you don’t know is that death is a process that gradually decay your body but there’s a certain time span that you can resuscitate a person. Ancient belief systems had the knowledge that the “angel of death” touch the body of a dead after 36 hours so there’s no turning back from that time on. There’ll come a day when we be able to resuscitate some one that die as long as 6 hours ago and can come back. (or maybe this already happened by know but it’s top secret technology!)

Think outside the box and maybe you'll find some clues!
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You still think YOU exist.
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after my husband died, the following day, he came to me. i know that sounds nuts, but it was such an amazing gift. he came right up to me, swirled around me a few times, and i could feel him - pure energy with all of his essence still there, only free, and electric, and pure. full of joy and excitement, almost like a child. his personality was still there, only supercharged. like a super free, pure energy, turbo charged electric smile. can't really explain. i was so overcome that i fell to my knees (it was in the middle of the street, btw). he gave me this awareness so i would know that he was ok, what he is like now, and to not fear dying. the experienced gave me everything i needed to know, a full comprehension of it, with one brief experience. a true and divine gift.
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Ah, hi again. :)

That's beautiful, and speaks of truth to me.

Anyway, I think I understand what you meant earlier in the thread.

These discussions I was having with people were not about the more... shall we say, personal?... aspects of death. They were not discussions in which someone had lost a loved one, simply rather technical discussions during which things like 'life is meaningless anyway because all awareness ceases when you die' type things.

I approached this thread not from a 'comforting people' standpoint, but a technical discussion of whether or not the Awareness and sense of 'self' dissolves upon death.

So it wasn't really about comfort as much as just a discussion of whether or not the Awareness dissipates.

Hope that helps.

Nice to chat with you in such a pleasant manner/subject, by the way.

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