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Pastor using Snakes to prove faith in God gets bitten and die

 
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SO HE'S IN HELL OR HEAVEN NOW?
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I'll bet he's reincarnated as a snake....oh, the irony.
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Simply does'nt matter what YOU think about them.

Apparently (unlike most of YOU) they are in THEIR REALITY putting their life ON THE LINE for what they believe (or know).

Your damn RIGHT it involves RISK (!).

Somehow, they (consciously ?) cross a psychological threshold where their STATE changes to something else enabling a JOY that (may) transcend all DANGER.

Ya see, it's all about THAT (may).

(in these services) They are creating the pen-ultimate micro-scenario of the prime Human condition...

It's not the psychological before or after moment that matters (they are unreal) It's the critical burn PRESENT MOMENT that only matters...







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There's a difference between getting bit by accident and getting bit on purpose. That man was putting on a show, and boasting about his faith, which is a big no-no in God's eyes.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


Actually that is not what your Bible says regarding snake handling.

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It doesn't mention "putting on a show" regarding this. Sadly, does this mean you have changed from an atheist, to an agnostic to an excuse maker?

It seems this is another verse of the Bible that is untrue!
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SO HE'S IN HELL OR HEAVEN NOW?
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Probably hell since he was tempting God!
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There's a difference between getting bit by accident and getting bit on purpose. That man was putting on a show, and boasting about his faith, which is a big no-no in God's eyes.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


Actually that is not what your Bible says regarding snake handling.

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It doesn't mention "putting on a show" regarding this. Sadly, does this mean you have changed from an atheist, to an agnostic to an excuse maker?

It seems this is another verse of the Bible that is untrue!
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The snakes are of the two-legged variety. Ever heard of the term idiomatic language?
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06/01/2012 12:06 PM
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Isn't your "god" supposed to be a loving and understanding god? Instead he seems like a little vengeful bitch who likes to exert his power arbitrarily or whenever he feels like it. All I see going on in this world is chaos and turmoil...

Your "loving" god sure has a funny way of showing love and comprehension.
 Quoting: Clouds in the Sky


He is actually your God as well to because he created you !
There are many unanswered questions but I suppose that's what faith is all about.Faith that God is like you said loving ,like really if he wanted to exert his power you would dead by now.So lucky for you he has shown grace letting you live a little longer.Just something to think about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16471338


No, my mother and father on a drunken night decided to have sex in the bathtub. When my dad came, he ejaculated inside my mother and then, I won the race! Your "god" has not created me. I am a product of my parents' loins! Yep! I am also a descendant of apes! Too bad we evolved into humans though, we caused a lot less damage as apes.

Also, you're saying that if your "god" wanted to exert his power on me, I'd be dead? Really? Your loving "god" sure has a HELL (pun intended) of an anger management problem.
 Quoting: Clouds in the Sky


Seems to me that atheists/agnostics such as yourself tend to be that way because they're upset that god doesn't make every little part of their lives completely perfect, so they selfishly turn away from him.
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so does this mean there is no God...or does it just prove some people are stupid? 5a
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No...it simply means that there is a God who created everything...including poisonous snakes and stupid people.

hf
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LOL, what an idiot. He forgot the scripture that says 'ye shall not tempt the Lord thy God' !!!
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Hahaha oh this pagan so called Christians, they really need to read that book they supposedly follow.
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Hahaha oh this pagan so called Christians, they really need to read that book they supposedly follow.
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^^THIS^^
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so does this mean there is no God...or does it just prove some people are stupid? 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


It proves god does not like the arrogant.

cruise
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yah dont trust a snake, God gave us common sense for a reason! geesh
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Christians have got to stop being so stupid and do some textual research.

The entire section about handling snakes and drinking poison is a well known textual addition that occurs in only one gospel that does not occur in the earliest most reliable text

You christians need to get off the milk of religion and grow up and find a real relationship with the Creator.
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Matthew 4:7

Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
 Quoting: (noun)tard


^this^
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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its amazing no matter how stupid or terrible a situation is, god is always there and nothing can disprove him in christians eyes. 100% brain-washed retards. i might as well live in a country where people worship shoe strings. it would make just as much sense. why is it so hard for people to think for themselves? if you were taught by your parents to be the religion you are today, you're an idiot. the odds that you randomly were born in the only cult that was right about god is insanely stupid.
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Re: Pastor using Snakes to prove faith in God gets bitten and die
There's a difference between getting bit by accident and getting bit on purpose. That man was putting on a show, and boasting about his faith, which is a big no-no in God's eyes.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


Actually that is not what your Bible says regarding snake handling.

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It doesn't mention "putting on a show" regarding this. Sadly, does this mean you have changed from an atheist, to an agnostic to an excuse maker?

It seems this is another verse of the Bible that is untrue!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


The snakes are of the two-legged variety. Ever heard of the term idiomatic language?
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


Oh so you can guarantee this is idiomatic language?

It quite precisely suggests that Jesus said that people will do this in his name.

Whilst it doesn't precisely say "they won't get bitten" - It can be assumed that is what was meant as with the drinking of poison "it will not hurt them".

OOPS it did!

LOL, what an idiot. He forgot the scripture that says 'ye shall not tempt the Lord thy God' !!!
 Quoting: WhataMess


Actually your choice of verse is wrong here because they weren't tempting GOD they were worshipping him through this ritual, which is pretty much encouraged in Matthew 16:17-18.

Please stop making excuses.. the Bible is wrong here and these people who believe it literally are risking their lives.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Oh but you are correct that they are idiots for believing cause Jesus said

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Let's see how many who claim to have faith have the faith of a mustard seed OR is the bit "and nothing shall be impossible unto you." from the above tempting GOD also?

You can't have it both ways if you are honest - can you?
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its amazing no matter how stupid or terrible a situation is, god is always there and nothing can disprove him in christians eyes. 100% brain-washed retards. i might as well live in a country where people worship shoe strings. it would make just as much sense. why is it so hard for people to think for themselves? if you were taught by your parents to be the religion you are today, you're an idiot. the odds that you randomly were born in the only cult that was right about god is insanely stupid.
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth


God can reach any one in any cult they were born into, didn't you know that?
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they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.",they interpreting that wrong, snakes were placed,in beds and clothing to kill Christians back then . and they also tried to poison them. drinking strict9 or whatever it's called is foolish and saying there is no God because of this is foolish,because they refuse to believe in the truth;they will believe a lie and be condemned. the man of perdition is coming .
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There's a difference between getting bit by accident and getting bit on purpose. That man was putting on a show, and boasting about his faith, which is a big no-no in God's eyes.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


Actually that is not what your Bible says regarding snake handling.

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It doesn't mention "putting on a show" regarding this. Sadly, does this mean you have changed from an atheist, to an agnostic to an excuse maker?

It seems this is another verse of the Bible that is untrue!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Snake handlers base their actions on Mark 16:17, 18. Those verses include the words: “With their hands they will pick up serpents.” The King James Version and other older translations present those verses as if they were part of the original text. The New Revised Standard Version, The New American Standard Bible, and The New King James Version note that those verses do not appear in most of the oldest manuscripts of Mark’s Gospel.
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There's a difference between getting bit by accident and getting bit on purpose. That man was putting on a show, and boasting about his faith, which is a big no-no in God's eyes.
 Quoting: Fidokrab


Actually that is not what your Bible says regarding snake handling.

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It doesn't mention "putting on a show" regarding this. Sadly, does this mean you have changed from an atheist, to an agnostic to an excuse maker?

It seems this is another verse of the Bible that is untrue!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Snake handlers base their actions on Mark 16:17, 18. Those verses include the words: “With their hands they will pick up serpents.” The King James Version and other older translations present those verses as if they were part of the original text. The New Revised Standard Version, The New American Standard Bible, and The New King James Version note that those verses do not appear in most of the oldest manuscripts of Mark’s Gospel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447032


Snake handlers are wrong because they tempt God, we are told not to tempt Him. You don't just go and do something to see if God will do a miracle. When Jesus was on the pinnacle of the temple and Satan told him to jump cause the angels would help him. He said "It is written thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God". Snake handlers learn this from their parents, it is passed down from one generation to another. It's a lie of tempting God passed down from one generation to another. Religious people!
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...Snake handlers are wrong because they tempt God, we are told not to tempt Him. You don't just go and do something to see if God will do a miracle...
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PS Your judging them... (with a vengence)
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...Snake handlers are wrong because they tempt God, we are told not to tempt Him. You don't just go and do something to see if God will do a miracle...
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PS Your judging them... (with a vengence)
 Quoting: Being * gnieB


We are allowed to judge those in the church, go read your bible
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I guess Satan told him to STFU.
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a religitards in his highest skills...
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LMAO!
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We are allowed to judge those in the church, go read your bible
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If the serpent handlers did that, they'd be bitten immediately!

(Your assuming im a Christian...)

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...Snake handlers are wrong because they tempt God, we are told not to tempt Him. You don't just go and do something to see if God will do a miracle...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7390076


PS Your judging them... (with a vengence)
 Quoting: Being * gnieB


We are allowed to judge those in the church, go read your bible
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1 Corinthians 5:9-12 (Letter from Paul the Apostle, to the 1st Church of Corinth)

I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you"
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its amazing no matter how stupid or terrible a situation is, god is always there and nothing can disprove him in christians eyes. 100% brain-washed retards. i might as well live in a country where people worship shoe strings. it would make just as much sense. why is it so hard for people to think for themselves? if you were taught by your parents to be the religion you are today, you're an idiot. the odds that you randomly were born in the only cult that was right about god is insanely stupid.
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth


Then I guess I'm an even bigger idiot. I was raised as an atheist and became a Christian much to my parents' dismay.

The same with my brother. He got caught reading a New Testament that he'd been hiding in his closet when he was 12 and got grounded for the entire summer because of it.

Most kids sneak out of the house to party with their friends. We were sneaking out of the house to go to church.

Not every person is a Christian because they were raised that way. Some of us are even more "insanely stupid" and insist on following Christ even when it's forbidden.

I would never voluntarily handle a poisonous snake though.
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Seems again and again to come down to a WORDY mass of scripture (swirling around in one's head only)... And creating a (canceling-out effect in) severe duality.

What about a Marine who puts his body between a bullet and yours,

A fireman who risks everything to preserve a life,

Policeman sacrificing everything to 'help'?
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I like the saying: "Trust in God, but always carry a spare tyre."

I imagine that God, if he exists, probably gets pretty pissed off when red faced retards who molest snakes, beg for divine intervention to prevent their own suicide.
 Quoting: Monkeybiscuit


carry a spare tyre.. not a snake
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its amazing no matter how stupid or terrible a situation is, god is always there and nothing can disprove him in christians eyes. 100% brain-washed retards. i might as well live in a country where people worship shoe strings. it would make just as much sense. why is it so hard for people to think for themselves? if you were taught by your parents to be the religion you are today, you're an idiot. the odds that you randomly were born in the only cult that was right about god is insanely stupid.
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth


Then I guess I'm an even bigger idiot. I was raised as an atheist and became a Christian much to my parents' dismay.

The same with my brother. He got caught reading a New Testament that he'd been hiding in his closet when he was 12 and got grounded for the entire summer because of it.

Most kids sneak out of the house to party with their friends. We were sneaking out of the house to go to church.

Not every person is a Christian because they were raised that way. Some of us are even more "insanely stupid" and insist on following Christ even when it's forbidden.

I would never voluntarily handle a poisonous snake though.
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1 Corinthians 1:18-25

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. jewish people demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to jewish people and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both jewish people and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

Amen, my friend. It is no wonder those in the world find us foolish. Take heart, you know your Truth.

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