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CYBERWAR -- Obama ordered Stuxnet attack on Iran!!!

 
thehitchhiker
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Not surprised but... Holy shit mans.

From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran’s main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America’s first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.

Told it was unclear how much the Iranians knew about the code, and offered evidence that it was still causing havoc, Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed.

American cyberattacks are not limited to Iran, but the focus of attention, as one administration official put it, “has been overwhelmingly on one country.” There is no reason to believe that will remain the case for long. Some officials question why the same techniques have not been used more aggressively against North Korea. Others see chances to disrupt Chinese military plans, forces in Syria on the way to suppress the uprising there, and Qaeda operations around the world. “We’ve considered a lot more attacks than we have gone ahead with,” one former intelligence official said.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

As the International Strategy for Cyberspace notes, these sorts of electronic attacks are serious business. The US in fact reserves the right to use even military force to respond to similar attacks. "All states possess an inherent right to self-defense, and we recognize that certain hostile acts conducted through cyberspace could compel actions under the commitments we have with our military treaty partners," says the report. "We reserve the right to use all necessary means—diplomatic, informational, military, and economic—as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law."

[link to arstechnica.com]

While there were concerns within the both the Bush and Obama administrations about the use of uncertain technology and tactics, officials made the calculation that "Olympic Games" was worth trying, if only to prevent the Israelis from launching a dangerous military strike on Iran. According to Sanger, Rather than shut down the program after it became more widely known, the president ordered it to continue, launching the first computer attack that ended in physical damage to the Iranian plant.

[link to www.theatlanticwire.com]

The United States government only recently acknowledged developing cyberweapons, and it has never admitted using them. There have been reports of one-time attacks against personal computers used by members of al-Qaida, and of contemplated attacks against the computers that run air defense systems, including during the NATO-led air attack on Libya last year. But Olympic Games was of an entirely different type and sophistication.

[link to economictimes.indiatimes.com]

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Why is this shin not pizzled yet?
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Why is this shin not pizzled yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7546264


Dunno.. updated the title a little. hehe

Crazy shit though eh?

Read the article?
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Stories with people who cannot be named?

Sorcha Fail working for the nyt now?
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From the NYT-article:

It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country’s infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives.

Isn't this as much as admitting to an act of war?

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From the NYT-article:

It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country’s infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives.

Isn't this as much as committing to an act of war?
 Quoting: Ravan


I would think. Actually remember reading some stuff about that this year.

The hypocrisy in the US government is far and wide though.
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So there won't be much we can say when somebody does the same thing to us then.
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Haha everyone is claiming to be l33t on this one.
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From the NYT-article:

It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country’s infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives.

Isn't this as much as admitting to an act of war?
 Quoting: Ravan


The wheels of due process in regards to international military protocols, fell off a long time ago.
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Not surprised but... Holy shit mans.

From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran’s main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America’s first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.

Told it was unclear how much the Iranians knew about the code, and offered evidence that it was still causing havoc, Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed.

American cyberattacks are not limited to Iran, but the focus of attention, as one administration official put it, “has been overwhelmingly on one country.” There is no reason to believe that will remain the case for long. Some officials question why the same techniques have not been used more aggressively against North Korea. Others see chances to disrupt Chinese military plans, forces in Syria on the way to suppress the uprising there, and Qaeda operations around the world. “We’ve considered a lot more attacks than we have gone ahead with,” one former intelligence official said.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

As the International Strategy for Cyberspace notes, these sorts of electronic attacks are serious business. The US in fact reserves the right to use even military force to respond to similar attacks. "All states possess an inherent right to self-defense, and we recognize that certain hostile acts conducted through cyberspace could compel actions under the commitments we have with our military treaty partners," says the report. "We reserve the right to use all necessary means—diplomatic, informational, military, and economic—as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law."

[link to arstechnica.com]

While there were concerns within the both the Bush and Obama administrations about the use of uncertain technology and tactics, officials made the calculation that "Olympic Games" was worth trying, if only to prevent the Israelis from launching a dangerous military strike on Iran. According to Sanger, Rather than shut down the program after it became more widely known, the president ordered it to continue, launching the first computer attack that ended in physical damage to the Iranian plant.

[link to www.theatlanticwire.com]

The United States government only recently acknowledged developing cyberweapons, and it has never admitted using them. There have been reports of one-time attacks against personal computers used by members of al-Qaida, and of contemplated attacks against the computers that run air defense systems, including during the NATO-led air attack on Libya last year. But Olympic Games was of an entirely different type and sophistication.

[link to economictimes.indiatimes.com]
 Quoting: thehitchhiker



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but stuxnet did not behave as anticipated by darth
obama and spread far and wide.

eventually, it spread to the automated systems that
regulated the activities in japan's nuclear power plants.

waiting, waiting, waiting.

until a harmonically induced megaquake, caused by
nibiru's proximity, triggered backup safety protocols
to mishandle at the tsunami crippled fukushima complex.

and so, the great god yahoveh punished the illuminists
with their own weapons and completely eviscerated
a critical pacific ally as a warning and foreshadow.

but the illuminists and darth obama repented not of
their murders and thefts, and continued their
evils and to bow down to idols and to curse the
name of yahoveh...

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Israel asked him for this favour.
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Israel asked him for this favour.
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The massuh doesn't ASK the slave to do something.
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CNN just reported on it as well!

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Come on people!, we all knew that before the news!! even the blind can see it!!
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Thats funny. I heard that Israel did it.

"Israel hints it may be behind 'Flame' super-virus targeting Iran"


A top Israeli minister yesterday fed speculation that the Jewish state could be responsible for a powerful new virus said to have been used in a fresh attack on computers in Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East.

Moshe Yaalon, Israel's Vice Prime Minister and Strategic Affairs Minister, told the country's Army Radio: "Anyone who sees the Iranian threat as a significant threat – it's reasonable [to assume] that he will take various steps, including these, to harm it."

Mr Yaalon, a former military Chief of Staff, added: "Israel was blessed as being a country rich with high-tech. These tools that we take pride in open up all kinds of opportunities for us."

He stopped short of directly claiming responsibility, but Israel has long been in the forefront of opposition to Iran's nuclear programme, currently the subject of difficult negotiations between Tehran and six world powers.

Although many viruses can already steal large amounts of data, few have been as comprehensive as Flame, or steal in so many different ways. The security industry is still in the early stages of examining what exactly Flame can do, but examples already given include hijacking a computer's microphone to record conversations, taking screen shots during chats through instant messenger and even stealing data from devices that are attached to an infected computer through a Bluetooth connection.



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Stux has been around LONG before Obama was a citizen.
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Stux has been around LONG before Obama was a citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7510834


^^ THIS ^^

What kind of shameless Obama campaigning is this by the NY Times?
What a bunch of bunk.
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Soooo ordering the OK to a virus that virtually makes a nuclear plant melt down is a good thing right....
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Thats funny. I heard that Israel did it.


 Quoting: AtheistRepublican


They do what they are told by the US so they probably did do it with the order from lord Obama. In a nutshell: Israel is our bitch.
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Soooo ordering the OK to a virus that virtually makes a nuclear plant melt down and kills all the people in the northern hemisphere is a good thing right....
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FIFY


No.
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Thats funny. I heard that Israel did it.


 Quoting: AtheistRepublican


They do what they are told by the US so they probably did do it with the order from lord Obama. In a nutshell: Israel is our bitch.
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


We have a Zionist occupied government and country, so how can we be Israel's bitch?

Can you diagram this for me?
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Code name Olympic Games hiding
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this is so 5 years ago.
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Israel did it, not Obama
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From the NYT-article:

It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country’s infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives.

Isn't this as much as admitting to an act of war?
 Quoting: Ravan


China has been doing this to the USA for YEARS.

...even some of it hard coded into microchips they sell us for military use.
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What proof is there?

None.

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