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What really is the OZONE layer?

 
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What really is the OZONE layer?
Simply put...





Ozone layer is a part of earth's atmosphere where the elements in the atmosphere react with the suns radiation diminishing the radiation as it uses up the energy to split atomic bonds apart.

the ozone layer itself is the result of the protection not what actually protects.



ozone is formed AFTER the radiation has met the molecules of oxygen (o2) in the atmosphere as the radiation splits it into single atoms of oxygen which then recombine with o2 to make o3 etc.

an absence of ozone or a hole in the ozone indicates one or both of the following

1there is not any atmosphere or 2 there is no radiation where the hole exists



what the mainstream media would have you believe is there is a layor of single oxygen atoms in the high atmosphere that protect earth from radiation from the sun.

this is simply not the case.
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the entire atmoshere protects earth fom the suns radiation and ozone is the byproduct of this protection.
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and as you can see no amount of cfc's can allow more radiation through as the cfc's themselves will absorb the radiation just like the atmoshere does already.

a lack of ozone would not be an indication of radiation being allowed through, but simply an indication of a change (addition) in the composition of the atmoshere.
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when you couple the ban of cfc's with the same time that a certain company's patent ran out for them, you get the whole reason behind the ozone layer depletion scam.

and the precedent for all other global warming/cooling co2 carbon and all that other tax.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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Sort of like the "Oh Noes" layer, but a no parking zone...whatever
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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yes i can

its where there is no radiation from the sun reaching that part of the earth

or

it is where there is a lack of oxygen.

now if there is any relation to ozone and radiation getting through this would be obvious when correlating the map of the ozone layer with the map of ground radiation.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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I don't think that they are supposed to protect the ozone layer. Can you sight this "scam" anywhere?
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it is not heaven. heaven is around 2/3rds that height. roughly where they chemtrail... hmm.
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www.oar.noaa.gov/climate/t_ozonelayer.html

states Ozone is a gas that occurs naturally in our atmosphere. Most of it is concentrated in the ozone layer.

ever wondered why ozone is concentrated in the ozone layer??


becuase thats where it is made!
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A made up load of shit they use to mind control people.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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I don't think that they are supposed to protect the ozone layer. Can you sight this "scam" anywhere?
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i think you missed some vital nugget of info there mate, im telling you the cats are used to extract precious metals from crude, they are not made from precious metals.
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www.oar.noaa.gov/climate/t_ozonelayer.html

states Ozone is a gas that occurs naturally in our atmosphere. Most of it is concentrated in the ozone layer.

ever wondered why ozone is concentrated in the ozone layer??


becuase thats where it is made!
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You realise this "layer" is constantly changing right?
I mean it changes so much, how could you ever really call it a "layer", or even attempt to accurately measure anything in this layer?
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www.oar.noaa.gov/climate/t_ozonelayer.html

states Ozone is a gas that occurs naturally in our atmosphere. Most of it is concentrated in the ozone layer.

ever wondered why ozone is concentrated in the ozone layer??


becuase thats where it is made!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


You realise this "layer" is constantly changing right?
I mean it changes so much, how could you ever really call it a "layer", or even attempt to accurately measure anything in this layer?
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its there in a layer because it doesnt live very long so it doesnt dissipate elsewhere it bonds with somethign else and is no longer ozone.

ozone is created then it combines with something else, this is constantly happening in the atmosphere

where oxygen meets suns radiation

there are many other layers of other elements there too.
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www.oar.noaa.gov/climate/t_ozonelayer.html

states Ozone is a gas that occurs naturally in our atmosphere. Most of it is concentrated in the ozone layer.

ever wondered why ozone is concentrated in the ozone layer??


becuase thats where it is made!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


You realise this "layer" is constantly changing right?
I mean it changes so much, how could you ever really call it a "layer", or even attempt to accurately measure anything in this layer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16735882


its there in a layer because it doesnt live very long so it doesnt dissipate elsewhere it bonds with somethign else and is no longer ozone.

ozone is created then it combines with something else, this is constantly happening in the atmosphere

where oxygen meets suns radiation

there are many other layers of other elements there too.
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Yes but they're all over the place there is not a single layer of it constantly, its not a constant its a process.
They make it sound like its a gas in a bag that they can test to see how much is there.
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www.oar.noaa.gov/climate/t_ozonelayer.html

states Ozone is a gas that occurs naturally in our atmosphere. Most of it is concentrated in the ozone layer.

ever wondered why ozone is concentrated in the ozone layer??


becuase thats where it is made!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


You realise this "layer" is constantly changing right?
I mean it changes so much, how could you ever really call it a "layer", or even attempt to accurately measure anything in this layer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16735882


its there in a layer because it doesnt live very long so it doesnt dissipate elsewhere it bonds with somethign else and is no longer ozone.

ozone is created then it combines with something else, this is constantly happening in the atmosphere

where oxygen meets suns radiation

there are many other layers of other elements there too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491

Yes but they're all over the place there is not a single layer of it constantly, its not a constant its a process.
They make it sound like its a gas in a bag that they can test to see how much is there.
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yes absolutley

the amount of ozone is an indication of the amount of oxygen or an indication of the radioation in that part of the atmosphere
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A dry run for the global warming scam?
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A dry run for the global warming scam?
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you think this thread is pro un natural global warming/cooling??

its showing that

greenhouse gasses and hole in the ozone layer is BS and in no way justification of the actions because of.
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
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It's not an actual hole. It just has an abnormally low concentration of O3 in the atmosphere between 25,000 feet and 100,000.

This is caused during the wintertime over Antarctica because of a large area of cold air which allows o3 molecules to bond to chlorine molecules. Chlorine and O-Zone can only bond at very low temperatures. At the end of wintertime the "hole" disappears because o3 and chlorine "thaw" and go their separate ways. The O3 does not absorb radiation while it is bonded to chlorine.


Does that make sense? Of course scientists think the public is stupid and tries to simplify it but what I said above is how it works. We tried it in a lab in college.
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The magnetosphere (left) is a complex structure that changes with the solar wind. Major features include the polar cusp where the magnetic field lines are almost vertical and leave the Earth's poles exposed to space, and a neutral plasma sheet which extends outward from around the magnetic equator..


Polar fountains fill magnetosphere with ions

[link to science.nasa.gov]


The earth Is creating the hole. The earth has fountains at the poles that create the hole.

Clip..
To Chappell's surprise, the real find was around the north pole where RIMS measured gases flowing upward from the ionosphere into space as DE-1 arced to about 4.6 Earth radii above the pole (the orbit was 464 x 23,370 km [288 x 14,490 mi]).
"The more we measured it," he said, "the more we realized that this was a big source of material." RIMS measured ions of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, and nitrogen rising at different speeds and on different trajectories.
Apparently, the particles that slammed into the ionosphere to paint the aurora borealis also energized enough atoms to head spaceward. (The same is true of the south pole where DE-1 made similar observations.) The acceleration mechanism is not fully understood, though. Giles said that very low frequency (VLF) radio waves, emitted in the magnetosphere, may contribute energy.



Cool huh!!!!!
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another scam relating to the atmosphere is the catalytic converters in cars


they dont protect the atmosphere they simply extract precious metals from crude oil.
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


It's not an actual hole. It just has an abnormally low concentration of O3 in the atmosphere between 25,000 feet and 100,000.

This is caused during the wintertime over Antarctica because of a large area of cold air which allows o3 molecules to bond to chlorine molecules. Chlorine and O-Zone can only bond at very low temperatures. At the end of wintertime the "hole" disappears because o3 and chlorine "thaw" and go their separate ways. The O3 does not absorb radiation while it is bonded to chlorine.


Does that make sense? Of course scientists think the public is stupid and tries to simplify it but what I said above is how it works. We tried it in a lab in college.
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the point your missing is it doesnt matter if there is enough energy to separate the atoms, what matters is the radiation will always 'try' and be absorbed.

the entire point (OP) i am making is that its not ozone that protects us from radiation, its that ozone is the byproduct of the protection already occuring.

it doesnt matter if the atoms of o2 split apart or not, it doesnt matter if ozone is created or not as a result.

all that matters is there is an element in the atmosphere that absorbs the energy of the UV radiation!
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The magnetosphere (left) is a complex structure that changes with the solar wind. Major features include the polar cusp where the magnetic field lines are almost vertical and leave the Earth's poles exposed to space, and a neutral plasma sheet which extends outward from around the magnetic equator..


Polar fountains fill magnetosphere with ions

[link to science.nasa.gov]


The earth Is creating the hole. The earth has fountains at the poles that create the hole.

Clip..
To Chappell's surprise, the real find was around the north pole where RIMS measured gases flowing upward from the ionosphere into space as DE-1 arced to about 4.6 Earth radii above the pole (the orbit was 464 x 23,370 km [288 x 14,490 mi]).
"The more we measured it," he said, "the more we realized that this was a big source of material." RIMS measured ions of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, and nitrogen rising at different speeds and on different trajectories.
Apparently, the particles that slammed into the ionosphere to paint the aurora borealis also energized enough atoms to head spaceward. (The same is true of the south pole where DE-1 made similar observations.) The acceleration mechanism is not fully understood, though. Giles said that very low frequency (VLF) radio waves, emitted in the magnetosphere, may contribute energy.



Cool huh!!!!!
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like i said earlier, lack of ozone equals one of two things.. lack of oxygen(highly unlikely) or lack of radiation (which is caused by the magnetosphere)
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Can you explain what the antartic ozone hole may be ?
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


It's not an actual hole. It just has an abnormally low concentration of O3 in the atmosphere between 25,000 feet and 100,000.

This is caused during the wintertime over Antarctica because of a large area of cold air which allows o3 molecules to bond to chlorine molecules. Chlorine and O-Zone can only bond at very low temperatures. At the end of wintertime the "hole" disappears because o3 and chlorine "thaw" and go their separate ways. The O3 does not absorb radiation while it is bonded to chlorine.


Does that make sense? Of course scientists think the public is stupid and tries to simplify it but what I said above is how it works. We tried it in a lab in college.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17177008


the point your missing is it doesnt matter if there is enough energy to separate the atoms, what matters is the radiation will always 'try' and be absorbed.

the entire point (OP) i am making is that its not ozone that protects us from radiation, its that ozone is the byproduct of the protection already occuring.

it doesnt matter if the atoms of o2 split apart or not, it doesnt matter if ozone is created or not as a result.

all that matters is there is an element in the atmosphere that absorbs the energy of the UV radiation!
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Because that's not how it works. So what happens is when you have 3 o2 molecules. UV rays hits one of them splits it causing the O atoms to bond to each of the other two molecules leaving you with 2 o3 molecules.

Well the reverse is also true. When a UV ray hits an O3 molecule it can take an o atom off and cause it to bond to o2 molecules. Get it?
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


It's not an actual hole. It just has an abnormally low concentration of O3 in the atmosphere between 25,000 feet and 100,000.

This is caused during the wintertime over Antarctica because of a large area of cold air which allows o3 molecules to bond to chlorine molecules. Chlorine and O-Zone can only bond at very low temperatures. At the end of wintertime the "hole" disappears because o3 and chlorine "thaw" and go their separate ways. The O3 does not absorb radiation while it is bonded to chlorine.


Does that make sense? Of course scientists think the public is stupid and tries to simplify it but what I said above is how it works. We tried it in a lab in college.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17177008


the point your missing is it doesnt matter if there is enough energy to separate the atoms, what matters is the radiation will always 'try' and be absorbed.

the entire point (OP) i am making is that its not ozone that protects us from radiation, its that ozone is the byproduct of the protection already occuring.

it doesnt matter if the atoms of o2 split apart or not, it doesnt matter if ozone is created or not as a result.

all that matters is there is an element in the atmosphere that absorbs the energy of the UV radiation!
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Because that's not how it works. So what happens is when you have 3 o2 molecules. UV rays hits one of them splits it causing the O atoms to bond to each of the other two molecules leaving you with 2 o3 molecules.

Well the reverse is also true. When a UV ray hits an O3 molecule it can take an o atom off and cause it to bond to o2 molecules. Get it?
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It's a cycle.

o2+o2+o2+UV=o3+o3

Likewise

o3+o3+UV=o2+o2+o2
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There's no zone like Ozone!
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it doesnt matter if there is a hole in the ozone, as anything that is there will be dissasociated and absorb the radiation.

but i guarantee you this, that hole is not a vaccum of empty space

something is where the ozone has a hole in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17099491


It's not an actual hole. It just has an abnormally low concentration of O3 in the atmosphere between 25,000 feet and 100,000.

This is caused during the wintertime over Antarctica because of a large area of cold air which allows o3 molecules to bond to chlorine molecules. Chlorine and O-Zone can only bond at very low temperatures. At the end of wintertime the "hole" disappears because o3 and chlorine "thaw" and go their separate ways. The O3 does not absorb radiation while it is bonded to chlorine.


Does that make sense? Of course scientists think the public is stupid and tries to simplify it but what I said above is how it works. We tried it in a lab in college.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17177008


the point your missing is it doesnt matter if there is enough energy to separate the atoms, what matters is the radiation will always 'try' and be absorbed.

the entire point (OP) i am making is that its not ozone that protects us from radiation, its that ozone is the byproduct of the protection already occuring.

it doesnt matter if the atoms of o2 split apart or not, it doesnt matter if ozone is created or not as a result.

all that matters is there is an element in the atmosphere that absorbs the energy of the UV radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17570631


Because that's not how it works. So what happens is when you have 3 o2 molecules. UV rays hits one of them splits it causing the O atoms to bond to each of the other two molecules leaving you with 2 o3 molecules.

Well the reverse is also true. When a UV ray hits an O3 molecule it can take an o atom off and cause it to bond to o2 molecules. Get it?
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i get it completely, what your not getting is the point.

it doest matter which element is absorbing the uv radiation. it doesnt matter if there is an ozone layer, as the ozone is the result of radiation meeting oxygen.
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