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In the early 1980’s the search was on for what astronomers called Nemesis, a gravity draw beyond the solar system out in the direction of the constellation Orion. This gravity draw had been noted for centuries to be perturbing the outer planets. This search was reported in Astronomy magazine, the New York Times, Newsweek, and US News World Report. The search resulted in a front page article on the Washington Post on December 31, 1983, announcing a discovery. Planet X, aka Nibiru, had been sighted, inbound, by a US government infrared balloon lofted above the atmosphere.

Astronomy: Search for the Tenth Planet
Dec 1981
The pull exerted by its gravity would account for a wobble in Uranus' orbit that was first detected in 1821. Astronomers at the U.S. Naval Observatory (USNO) are using a powerful computer to identify the best target zones, and a telescopic search will follow soon after. Van Flandern thinks the tenth planet may have between two and five Earth masses and lie 50 to 100 astronomical units from the Sun.

New York Times
June 19, 1982
Scientists at the space agency's Ames Research Center said the two spacecraft, Pioneer 10 and 11, which are already farther into space than any other man-made object, might add to knowledge of a mysterious object believed to be beyond the solar system's outermost known planets.

Newsweek: Does the Sun Have a Dark Companion?
June 28 1982
When scientists noticed that Uranus wasn't following its predicted orbit for example, they didn't question their theories. Instead they blamed the anomalies on an as yet unseen planet and, sure enough, Neptune was discovered in 1846. Now astronomers are using the same strategy to explain quirks in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune.

Washington Post: Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered
31-Dec-1983
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A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through. So close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky.

US News World Report: Planet X - Is It Really Out There?
Sept 10, 1984
Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation.


At that time, in the early 1980’s there was some openness about the search for Nemesis, a diagram that appeared in the 1987 New Science and Invention Encyclopedia published by H.S. Stuttman, Westport, Connecticut, USA even showing the path of the Pioneer 10 and 11 probes in relationship to the mystery body they were sent to probe.

IMAGE: [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Then the cover-up over Planet X dropped like a cloak of darkness. It never happened! There were no perturbations, just mathematical errors! Now in May, 2012 Nemesis is being revived! Brought back from the dead! But notice they do not mention the search in the early 1980’s and the discovery of Planet X in 1983! And they certainly do not mention the body showing up regularly on SOHO and Stereo images, and being photographed by people all over the world using the red filter inserts from old floppy discs, or what showed up during the last lunar eclipse on May 20-21, 2012. Per the Zetas, the establishment is formulating an explanation for the day when (horrors!) the populace notices Planet X and its many Moon Swirls in the sky above them, and it is not yet time for the elite to dash to their bunkers or declare martial law! What to do! Quick, pretend it just arrived! Is that why the 1980’s Nemesis search is being omitted, so the establishment is not constrained by direction? Remember, for centuries, the outer planets were perturbed toward Orion, and this is where it came from in 2003. Accept no substitutes!


Is 'Planet X 2.0' Lurking Beyond Pluto's Orbit?
May 23, 2012
[link to news.discovery.com]
Before the doomsayers hijacked "Planet X" and used it as a phantom (a.k.a. "Nibiru") to scare people into believing the 2012 doomsday hype, the hunt for Planet X was an exciting astronomical quest to find a hypothetical world in the outermost reaches of the solar system in the early 20th century. Although the presence of a massive planet may explain the extreme orbits, there is little else that suggests Planet X 2.0 really is out there. But the method of seeking out other worlds while looking for their gravitational influence on the orbits of other celestial bodies has been done before, with historic success.

Astronomer Insists there is a Planet X Four Times the Size of Earth Lurking at the Edge of our Solar System
May 23, 2012
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer. An astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.


ZetaTalk Explanation 6/2/2012: NASA’s history of discovery on wandering rogue planets that seem to travel through space independent of a central Sun is not a pretty one. Similar to the Flat Earth theory, they clung to their theories righteously, angrily attacking the facts and any messenger bringing them those facts as though their egos were a holy place and the truth were the enemy. When ZetaTalk presented concepts that explained the behavior of such rogue or traveling planets, their failure to follow a circular orbit around a sun and the speed at which they can move through space, Nancy and ourselves were ridiculed for not understanding “the laws” of nature as purported by their God Newton.

Little by little, inch by inch, they have admitted our facts, always in the context of a human discovery, such is their arrogance. If one revisits the history, one sees that only since the start of the ZetaTalk saga have humans proposed theories and pursued discovery that remarkably parallel our explanations. Now wandering planets, previously denied entirely as even possible, are readily admitted. Previously NASA’s pet theory of “escape velocity” was asserted as a law, where now traveling planets that can escape the gravity draw of a sun, are admitted.

Since NASA et al were so very busy defending their egos and precious theories, why have we begun to see articles in print wherein astronomers have discovered wandering planets? Why, after the search in the 1980’s for what was called “nemesis”, a gravity body in the direction of the constellation of Orion that was causing perturbations in the outer planets, is this theory now being reactivated? When Planet X was discovered there in 1983, all such talk of a gravity force there was forbidden, as JPL and NASA did indeed find Planet X with their infrared cameras. Is there some benefit to be gained by admitting that traveling planets exist, and encouraging the public to think that such a planet may exist just on the outskirts of the solar system?

When it became obvious that Planet X was zooming into the solar system, at the speed we had predicted, the establishment realized they would likely have to invent an excuse in case the passage was not swift. What if a body were visible, for months or years, so the public became restless and rebellious? While frantically ridiculing Nancy and ourselves, they had their cover-up minions purport that Planet X was “out past Jupiter”, and spread rumors of spots that Google Sky would not display. All the while, of course, Planet X and its Moon Swirls were showing up on SOHO and Stereo images, seen naked eye, and recently made a nice appearance during the May 20-21 lunar eclipse. Should Planet X itself suddenly become visible to all, they will announce that the suspected nemesis body at the fringes of the solar system moved to explain its rapid arrival!

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then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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Do we need to kill our pets already?

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And not only have they dredged up an ALTERNATIVE for what is being seen in SOHO and Stereo images, and photo'd by the public using only the red plastic inside old floppy discs as filters
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
they are ALSO trying to dredge up an excuse for:
1. the twisting magnetosphere
2. the Earth wobble

Hoohaa! They are, per the Zetas, creating a Frankenstein Monster in their attempts to discredit the ACCURACY of ZetaTalk, and keep the sheeply dumb and in their jobs until it is too late! Zetas RIGHT Again and Again and Again. Yes!

The following article appeared in Mainich Shinbune, a major newspaper in Japan, on April 20, 2012
[link to mainichi.jp]
The article suggests the Sun's magnetic structure is changing from a dipole (N. Pole – S. Pole) to a "quadrupole structure" where the arctic and antarctic poles each contain two poles, all with North Pole characteristics, while the Sun's equator region contains the associated South Pole characteristics, as illustrated above.  The article further suggests this phenomena may result in cooling of the Earth, or "temporary suppression of global warming".

SOZT
The cover-up over the presence of Planet X struggles with several phenomena that point directly to the monster planet riding just inside the orbit of Venus. It is visible on their SOHO and Stereo images, in personal photos taken by the public using the Red Filter technique, and the complex is seen naked eye on occasion when the Moon Swirl tubes turn to focus their funneled light directly toward the Earth. On this, NASA falls silent or makes inane claims such as dust on the lens or lens flares or atmospheric effects. Until the complex becomes visible to all, worldwide, in an undeniable fashion, the cover-up will continue to stonewall. Their ultimate defense will be to claim that a newly discovered planet
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
has zoomed in from space, and they have already begun laying the groundwork for this.

Earthquakes and volcanic activity are on the increase, due to Earth’s core roiling and the Earth wobble slaming the globe back and forth daily. This has been handled, or so the cover-up hopes, by suppressing media chatter and by dropping quakes from the databases and most particularly by radically reducing
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
the official magnitude of quakes. Attempts to relate the increase in earthquakes and volcanic activity to Global Warming (weight of the seas) or solar activity have not succeeded, in the public eye. Fracking, as an excuse, is being pushed in the media, but likewise lacks a firm nexus with quake location and timing. Since great earthquakes and volcanic eruptions have occurred in the Earth’s past, pointing to such instances will continue be used to explain the current increase. That our 7 of 10 predictions are unfolding as predicted will be ignore, as the cover-up hopes for continued media suppression on ZetaTalk.

The Earth’s magnetosphere has been greatly disturbed by the near presence of Planet X, as Planet X is a bully magnet and is pointing its N Pole increasingly in the direction of Earth. At first this registered as a drift in the N Pole of Earth, with occasional blackouts or brownouts in the electrical grid. But the magnetic dance between the Earth and Planet X was most dramatically displayed on the Magnetic Simulator, which was finally taken down
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
by the cover-up, an embarrassment they could not explain. Attempts to relate this to solar activity
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
failed as the Sun refused to cooperate. What the cover-up wants is a way to EXPLAIN the magnetic twisting, as too many examples of the Magnetic Simulator graphs are alive on the Internet, raising questions that refuse to go away.

The Earth wobble is the most troubling aspect of the near presence of Planet X. The public notices the Sun rising and setting in the wrong place, even when they have never heard of Planet X or the Pole Shift warnings. As the wobble gets worse, these questions become more pressing, and where stone walling may avoid a confrontation, it tends to suggest that NASA and other scientists are hiding something. What to do? The cover-up artists have decided to INVENT a reason the Earth’s magnetosphere was so twisted, and a reason for the Earth wobble, in one imaginary aspect of the Sun – the quad poles. Ah, it is the SUN, as they have so long claimed, that is creating magnetic confusion, and when one of the Sun’s N Poles points toward Earth, voile it creates a wobble by pushing the Earth’s N Pole away!

Will this succeed? Only those members of the public so emotionally dependent upon a parent figure that they will cling to anything the establishment tells them will believe the Frankenstein Monster the cover-up is producing.
- After years, more than a decade, of belittling Nancy and ourselves over our statements that Planet X had arrived in the inner solar system in 2003, they are now planning to wisk a NEW planet in from beyond Neptune as a substitute. We have photos and images, they have nothing, but they hope to replace our evidence with their lies. They FAIL as the increasing visibility of the Planet X complex PRECEDED their new story.
- After almost a decade of twisting Magnetic Simulator graphs, and after taking the simulator DOWN on some flimsy budgetary excuse, they are now going to claim they have the answer! Since all this happened after 2003, when Planet X arrived, per our statements, they are late with their explanations. We have the images and they do NOT relate to activity in the Sun. FAIL, once again, as too many years have passed while they ignored the phenomena.
- The Earth wobble has likewise been in place only since Planet X arrived in the inner solar system in 2003. Why has NASA failed to MENTION this, while also ignoring the Moon’s errant orbit. NASA points out into space, attempting to wow the public with Hubble images, and can’t be bothered with anything involving Mother Earth? FAIL, as the increasing visibility of the Planet X complex, obvious NOW, will be seen as the obvious cause.
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They are building all those underground bunkers for something! I do believe there is a planetX but I no longer follow ZetaTalk. Once Nancy started talking about "walk ins" then I knew she was full of it! What happened to PlanetX back in 2004?
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Then the cover-up over Planet X dropped like a cloak of darkness. It never happened! There were no perturbations, just mathematical errors!
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Actually the problem was an inaccurate figure for the mass of Neptune. That's not a cover-up; if it were, Harrington's Planet X model of the solar system should either still be consistent with the revised-mass model of the solar system, or the revised-mass model of the solar system should show new perturbations in the positions of the planets predicted and explained by the Planet X model of the solar system. Neither of those are true.
Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist
Now in May, 2012 Nemesis is being revived! Brought back from the dead! But notice they do not mention the search in the early 1980’s and the discovery of Planet X in 1983!
 Quoting: Nancy

That's because current hypothetical planets have nothing to do with planet X from the 80's and before; it is not the same hypothesis, nor is it needed to explain perturbations in the positions of the planets. Matese's Tyche theory and Gomes' new hypothetical planet are not a direct continuation of the old planet X theory; that died when Miles Standish properly explained and eliminated the perturbations using telemetry from Voyager.

The new theories are simply one set of hypotheses about why the solar system is the way it is, not to explain perturbations in the orbits of the planets, and indeed could equally be explained by close encounters with other stars earlier in the solar systems history. Even Gomes' own previous research seems to indicate that early gas giant migration in the solar system could have caused the scattering of kuiper belt objects into eccentric orbits.
And they certainly do not mention the body showing up regularly on SOHO and Stereo images,
 Quoting: Nancy

That's because there isn't some mysterious planet showing up on either of those, you simply claim that blooming cosmic ray hits are planets... even though they're not.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and being photographed by people all over the world using the red filter inserts from old floppy discs,
 Quoting: Nancy

Filter flares. There's nothing really there at all.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
or what showed up during the last lunar eclipse on May 20-21, 2012.
 Quoting: Nancy

Oh, you mean like the sunspots? Or the glare on the photos you stole without permission from marketselloff?
NASA’s history of discovery on wandering rogue planets that seem to travel through space independent of a central Sun is not a pretty one. Similar to the Flat Earth theory, they clung to their theories righteously, angrily attacking the facts and any messenger bringing them those facts as though their egos were a holy place and the truth were the enemy.
 Quoting: Nancy

What the hell are you talking about? NASA has long suspected that rogue planets exist ( [link to hubblesite.org] - though it later turned out to be an unrelated star, NASA had no opposition to the idea that it could be a rogue planet ejected from its parent star), but a rogue planet by definition does not orbit a star. Your planet X crap along with every other nibiru theory is supposedly orbiting the sun. Apples and oranges.
Why, after the search in the 1980’s for what was called “nemesis”, a gravity body in the direction of the constellation of Orion that was causing perturbations in the outer planets,
 Quoting: Nancy

It's amazing how confused you are. Nemesis!=Planet X!=Orion
Planet X, in particular, was not thought to be anywhere near Orion. And those unidentified point sources detected by IRAS...

IRAS did not discover any planets. It did find some initially unidentified point-like sources. The 1983 article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. In fact, it initially found 9 unidentified point-like sources of infrared light, listed here:
0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732+239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

Here are the papers that identified these objects:
Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.


is this theory now being reactivated?
 Quoting: Nancy

No.
When Planet X was discovered there in 1983,
 Quoting: Nancy

It wasn't.
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there may be another planet out there, but you can in NO way claim that you knew or did anything to find it.

The only thing I've seen you do is ride the coat tails of actual scientists doing the work and bamboozle the easily fooled.

Regardless if a planet is found, you're still a fraud and you'll have to live your whole life knowing that.
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Then the cover-up over Planet X dropped like a cloak of darkness. It never happened! There were no perturbations, just mathematical errors!
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Actually the problem was an inaccurate figure for the mass of Neptune. That's not a cover-up; if it were, Harrington's Planet X model of the solar system should either still be consistent with the revised-mass model of the solar system, or the revised-mass model of the solar system should show new perturbations in the positions of the planets predicted and explained by the Planet X model of the solar system. Neither of those are true.
Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist
Now in May, 2012 Nemesis is being revived! Brought back from the dead! But notice they do not mention the search in the early 1980’s and the discovery of Planet X in 1983!
 Quoting: Nancy

That's because current hypothetical planets have nothing to do with planet X from the 80's and before; it is not the same hypothesis, nor is it needed to explain perturbations in the positions of the planets. Matese's Tyche theory and Gomes' new hypothetical planet are not a direct continuation of the old planet X theory; that died when Miles Standish properly explained and eliminated the perturbations using telemetry from Voyager.

The new theories are simply one set of hypotheses about why the solar system is the way it is, not to explain perturbations in the orbits of the planets, and indeed could equally be explained by close encounters with other stars earlier in the solar systems history. Even Gomes' own previous research seems to indicate that early gas giant migration in the solar system could have caused the scattering of kuiper belt objects into eccentric orbits.
And they certainly do not mention the body showing up regularly on SOHO and Stereo images,
 Quoting: Nancy

That's because there isn't some mysterious planet showing up on either of those, you simply claim that blooming cosmic ray hits are planets... even though they're not.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and being photographed by people all over the world using the red filter inserts from old floppy discs,
 Quoting: Nancy

Filter flares. There's nothing really there at all.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
or what showed up during the last lunar eclipse on May 20-21, 2012.
 Quoting: Nancy

Oh, you mean like the sunspots? Or the glare on the photos you stole without permission from marketselloff?
NASA’s history of discovery on wandering rogue planets that seem to travel through space independent of a central Sun is not a pretty one. Similar to the Flat Earth theory, they clung to their theories righteously, angrily attacking the facts and any messenger bringing them those facts as though their egos were a holy place and the truth were the enemy.
 Quoting: Nancy

What the hell are you talking about? NASA has long suspected that rogue planets exist ( [link to hubblesite.org] - though it later turned out to be an unrelated star, NASA had no opposition to the idea that it could be a rogue planet ejected from its parent star), but a rogue planet by definition does not orbit a star. Your planet X crap along with every other nibiru theory is supposedly orbiting the sun. Apples and oranges.
Why, after the search in the 1980’s for what was called “nemesis”, a gravity body in the direction of the constellation of Orion that was causing perturbations in the outer planets,
 Quoting: Nancy

It's amazing how confused you are. Nemesis!=Planet X!=Orion
Planet X, in particular, was not thought to be anywhere near Orion. And those unidentified point sources detected by IRAS...

IRAS did not discover any planets. It did find some initially unidentified point-like sources. The 1983 article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. In fact, it initially found 9 unidentified point-like sources of infrared light, listed here:
0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732+239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

Here are the papers that identified these objects:
Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.


is this theory now being reactivated?
 Quoting: Nancy

No.
When Planet X was discovered there in 1983,
 Quoting: Nancy

It wasn't.
 Quoting: Astromut


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So when's the estimated time for the pole shift?
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They are building all those underground bunkers for something! I do believe there is a planetX but I no longer follow ZetaTalk. Once Nancy started talking about "walk ins" then I knew she was full of it! What happened to PlanetX back in 2004?
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don't forget the prez in chief is a star child here to save humanity just look at how many new communist executive orders he signed allowing drones over the US , starting invasion of libya and now working on creating chaos in syria, yemen, iran and southeast asia and the list goes on...while allowing his friends the bankers/wallstreeters to amass more wealth thru his fake shovel-ready jobs creation stimuli.
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So when's the estimated time for the pole shift?
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In the early 1980’s the search was on for what astronomers called Nemesis, a gravity draw beyond the solar system out in the direction of the constellation Orion. This gravity draw had been noted for centuries to be perturbing the outer planets. This search was reported in Astronomy magazine, the New York Times, Newsweek, and US News World Report. The search resulted in a front page article on the Washington Post on December 31, 1983, announcing a discovery. Planet X, aka Nibiru, had been sighted, inbound, by a US government infrared balloon lofted above the atmosphere.

Astronomy: Search for the Tenth Planet
Dec 1981
The pull exerted by its gravity would account for a wobble in Uranus' orbit that was first detected in 1821. Astronomers at the U.S. Naval Observatory (USNO) are using a powerful computer to identify the best target zones, and a telescopic search will follow soon after. Van Flandern thinks the tenth planet may have between two and five Earth masses and lie 50 to 100 astronomical units from the Sun.

New York Times
June 19, 1982
Scientists at the space agency's Ames Research Center said the two spacecraft, Pioneer 10 and 11, which are already farther into space than any other man-made object, might add to knowledge of a mysterious object believed to be beyond the solar system's outermost known planets.

Newsweek: Does the Sun Have a Dark Companion?
June 28 1982
When scientists noticed that Uranus wasn't following its predicted orbit for example, they didn't question their theories. Instead they blamed the anomalies on an as yet unseen planet and, sure enough, Neptune was discovered in 1846. Now astronomers are using the same strategy to explain quirks in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune.

Washington Post: Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered
31-Dec-1983
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A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through. So close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky.

US News World Report: Planet X - Is It Really Out There?
Sept 10, 1984
Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation.


At that time, in the early 1980’s there was some openness about the search for Nemesis, a diagram that appeared in the 1987 New Science and Invention Encyclopedia published by H.S. Stuttman, Westport, Connecticut, USA even showing the path of the Pioneer 10 and 11 probes in relationship to the mystery body they were sent to probe.

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Then the cover-up over Planet X dropped like a cloak of darkness. It never happened! There were no perturbations, just mathematical errors! Now in May, 2012 Nemesis is being revived! Brought back from the dead! But notice they do not mention the search in the early 1980’s and the discovery of Planet X in 1983! And they certainly do not mention the body showing up regularly on SOHO and Stereo images, and being photographed by people all over the world using the red filter inserts from old floppy discs, or what showed up during the last lunar eclipse on May 20-21, 2012. Per the Zetas, the establishment is formulating an explanation for the day when (horrors!) the populace notices Planet X and its many Moon Swirls in the sky above them, and it is not yet time for the elite to dash to their bunkers or declare martial law! What to do! Quick, pretend it just arrived! Is that why the 1980’s Nemesis search is being omitted, so the establishment is not constrained by direction? Remember, for centuries, the outer planets were perturbed toward Orion, and this is where it came from in 2003. Accept no substitutes!


Is 'Planet X 2.0' Lurking Beyond Pluto's Orbit?
May 23, 2012
[link to news.discovery.com]
Before the doomsayers hijacked "Planet X" and used it as a phantom (a.k.a. "Nibiru") to scare people into believing the 2012 doomsday hype, the hunt for Planet X was an exciting astronomical quest to find a hypothetical world in the outermost reaches of the solar system in the early 20th century. Although the presence of a massive planet may explain the extreme orbits, there is little else that suggests Planet X 2.0 really is out there. But the method of seeking out other worlds while looking for their gravitational influence on the orbits of other celestial bodies has been done before, with historic success.

Astronomer Insists there is a Planet X Four Times the Size of Earth Lurking at the Edge of our Solar System
May 23, 2012
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer. An astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.


ZetaTalk Explanation 6/2/2012: NASA’s history of discovery on wandering rogue planets that seem to travel through space independent of a central Sun is not a pretty one. Similar to the Flat Earth theory, they clung to their theories righteously, angrily attacking the facts and any messenger bringing them those facts as though their egos were a holy place and the truth were the enemy. When ZetaTalk presented concepts that explained the behavior of such rogue or traveling planets, their failure to follow a circular orbit around a sun and the speed at which they can move through space, Nancy and ourselves were ridiculed for not understanding “the laws” of nature as purported by their God Newton.

Little by little, inch by inch, they have admitted our facts, always in the context of a human discovery, such is their arrogance. If one revisits the history, one sees that only since the start of the ZetaTalk saga have humans proposed theories and pursued discovery that remarkably parallel our explanations. Now wandering planets, previously denied entirely as even possible, are readily admitted. Previously NASA’s pet theory of “escape velocity” was asserted as a law, where now traveling planets that can escape the gravity draw of a sun, are admitted.

Since NASA et al were so very busy defending their egos and precious theories, why have we begun to see articles in print wherein astronomers have discovered wandering planets? Why, after the search in the 1980’s for what was called “nemesis”, a gravity body in the direction of the constellation of Orion that was causing perturbations in the outer planets, is this theory now being reactivated? When Planet X was discovered there in 1983, all such talk of a gravity force there was forbidden, as JPL and NASA did indeed find Planet X with their infrared cameras. Is there some benefit to be gained by admitting that traveling planets exist, and encouraging the public to think that such a planet may exist just on the outskirts of the solar system?

When it became obvious that Planet X was zooming into the solar system, at the speed we had predicted, the establishment realized they would likely have to invent an excuse in case the passage was not swift. What if a body were visible, for months or years, so the public became restless and rebellious? While frantically ridiculing Nancy and ourselves, they had their cover-up minions purport that Planet X was “out past Jupiter”, and spread rumors of spots that Google Sky would not display. All the while, of course, Planet X and its Moon Swirls were showing up on SOHO and Stereo images, seen naked eye, and recently made a nice appearance during the May 20-21 lunar eclipse. Should Planet X itself suddenly become visible to all, they will announce that the suspected nemesis body at the fringes of the solar system moved to explain its rapid arrival!

 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


zetas right again!
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Finally some sanity returns to glp
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bumpROBOTdance
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hiding !ZETAS RIGHT AGAIN! NIBIRU IS COMING.hiding
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Go Astromut!!!Go!!!
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This has been an Official GLP Astromutt Debunking, please exit the building towards the left side, have a great evening folks! The more you know.......!
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So when's the estimated time for the pole shift?
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how can this person eat so much shit?
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Proctor, its time! Proceed with changing bulbs 77 and 115 on the Eastern holographic starboard and prepare for extreme lightwave magnification! Glasses on, over!
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Is it me or does the "naked eye visibility" date keep getting pushed back?
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the zetas were right !!!
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Yes folks, nibiru is here, nibirus is real, nibiru is bouncing around in our solar system.

Nobody can actually see it yet! But this is just an inconvenient delay.

Yknow, when 2012 has come and gone, they're just gonna invent a new deadline like always. They already have one as backup in fact. There is some confusion about the gregorian calendar, and whether we are actually in the year 2012 or not. I'm not sure on the exact dates, but the backup doomdate is something like 2018, so expect another 6 years of fear-porn at least.

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