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ZetaTalk Victorious! The War is ON!

 
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That's because free thought is not allowed on the ning. You either believe whatever they tell you, or you'll find yourself banned.
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Quite a LECTURE there CB - from one who is calling for MY BANNING on another well-known GLP thread!!

oh_irony
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


After having read through 1000+ pages of your crap, from the debunker thread, I believe it's safe to say that you have zero credibility.
 Quoting: Wonkish


I'm a "Truth Coach" - not a "Credulous Coach".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Thanks Max you always did make me laugh hard!
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Nibiru is coming and we will see two suns but we just don't know the day and the time. It will happen when we least expect it. I think that those who make fun or laugh of what they don't know, are walking on the path idiocy. How many times Columbus, was the center of jokes because he said the world was round?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2990625


Right. And how many times has Nancy said "Planet X" was here? How many times has she said the "pole shift" was going to happen? There's a huge difference between Columbus and Nancy. Columbus set out to PROVE the world was round. Nancy has done nothing to prove her case except offer excuses.

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Nibiru is coming and we will see two suns but we just don't know the day and the time. It will happen when we least expect it. I think that those who make fun or laugh of what they don't know, are walking on the path idiocy. How many times Columbus, was the center of jokes because he said the world was round?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2990625


Actually the educated of society knew the world was round (and indeed they knew Columbus was severely underestimating its circumference), it was the uneducated idiots who thought it was flat.

David Woodward writes in Perspecta Vol. 25 1989 in an article titled "The Image of the Spherical Earth,"

"There is certainly evidence from ballads - which presumably reached the unlettered classes more effectively than the treatises of Sacrobosco and Robert Grosseteste - that if the question of the shape of the earth was raised at all in the common mind, it was simpler to write it off as flat."

Who was Sacrobosco? Johannes de Sacrobosco was the author of De sphaera mundi, meaning "On the Sphere of the World," written circa 1230 AD. Robert Grosseteste, a theologian as well as a scientist, wrote De sphera.
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Nibiru is coming and we will see two suns but we just don't know the day and the time. It will happen when we least expect it. I think that those who make fun or laugh of what they don't know, are walking on the path idiocy. How many times Columbus, was the center of jokes because he said the world was round?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2990625


Do you even know what you are babbling about?

The world knew that the world was round in the time of Columbus and only that eras equivalent of conspiracy nuts thought it was flat and you could "sail off the edge".

How were those dog burgers?

I love how idiots proclaim everyone with a brain idiots.
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The earth is being effected and changing, fast. peace
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What does that even mean, "affected"? Affected by what? How? Please be specific. Most of what people claim are some sort of bizarre "effects" are simply normal events they never heard about before or claimed "anomalies" which are no such thing, like that the sun and moon are out of place in the sky. It's just nonsense which people accept as factual.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


Every planet heating up in our solar system, 600% above average earthquakes and alot of them being censored or having their magitude reduced
(snip)

 Quoting: TOMMY B


We can stop right there because what you said means you have bought the nonsense Nancy Lieder is selling. It's just one more example of things people don't understand being spun into some sort of conspiracy. Other examples: cosmic ray hits on SOHO sensors; the sun and moon "out of place" in the sky. You're an ignoramus for believing such things. Yawn.
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The orbit of Uranus and Neptune being affected by something.
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My gawd... how out of touch ARE you? That idea is ssoooo old and defunct and explained/understood. Of course you prefer to get your "science" from the likes of Nancy Lieder, hmm? Pathetic... truly pathetic.
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As you see the debunkers are failing to answer the questions. What is going on with the magnetosphere. ? Why did it reverse on March 12?
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Why is the sun not in the right place.? Why is the weather so erratic.?
Why is northern italy being hammered by quakes?
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

After punch 2 the debunkers will hide in their bunkers.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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And soon Planet X wil be visible in the sky for all to see.
 Quoting: Gerard


Nancy shits a couple of times on the first page of this thread...and a few pages farther along her beloved lapdog Gerard appears.

As for those two magnetosphere simulation images...you don't know what you're looking at! The first image shows the Sun to the left and the second image shows the Sun to the right. Pity you don't know how to recognize the bow wave.
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long ago, when Nancy was first claiming to have images of her planet, Gerard (Obany)was, of course, defending her every word. Nancy was pointing at bits of image noise and calling them her planet. I asked him this simple question: "Do you think there is no such thing as noise in images?" He would never answer the question. Heh.
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The wording is all telling.

Nancy and her followers are now AT WAR.

The armies of the ignorant once again.

This is history repeating
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Everyone undates everytime you plug it into your computer, the big earthquakes that shifted the earths axis threw them all off, just like GPS, and automaticly recalibrated. So its possible.peace
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Sorry, that's not true. Earthquakes cause such tiny motions in the axis of the Earth that it takes fantastically precise equipment to measure them at all. GOTOs are precise, but don't need precision measured in thousandths of millimeters.

Also, there are thousands of GOTO scopes that have no way of updating without replacing the chips. They don't NEED updates, as the assumptions that the GOTO makes are constant, at least as far as the life of the telescope:

- The Earth revolves on its axis at a predictable rate.
- The axis constantly points toward the same point, very near Polaris.
- The Earth moves around the Sun at a predictable rate.
- Moons and planets move in their orbits at a predictable rate.

You'd only need updates if you want it to automatically track new objects; asteroids or comets or other newly discovered stuff.

Most don't have connections to the Internet, and most don't need them. And thus they have no way of adapting to an unpredictably moving Earth. That they track proves conclusively that the Earth's motions are behaving as predicted, even with scopes that haven't been updated in decades, or permanently mounted scopes that work on clockwork gears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

Yet no matter how many times that is explained, they will continue to claim that all GOTO scopes are constantly "updated".
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this is why she doesn't respond to posts, she uses GLP for advertisement, throws up her links and takes off to another site, she has no interest in discussion whatsoever just exposure (traffic)
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She doesn't like the trolls...Nancy tells us what the Zetas tell her, she makes her own observations from that info as well...
 Quoting: BRIEF


And by "troll" you mean someone who points out where she is wrong.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


If you read the rules in her opening posts, then yeah that's what I mean.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No one was wondering why Nancy banned people from her chats. Why are you explaining the obvious?
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she can't prove she does and i can't prove she doesn't ...NO i don't beleive aliens from zeta are talking to her maybe someone else. she has a passion for this and i respect that. do you beleive and why breif?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17133741


I believe she gets images in her mind...if she says it the Zetas then I'm cool with that...so far the only thing she's hurt is a mutt or two, so who cares?
 Quoting: BRIEF


Nancy's hoax has destroyed many lives, and is threatening a whole new flock of people who only know what she tells them on her ning and believe her.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


It's just for fun...if you don't consider all different sources of information on a particular subject you're probably retarded.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You consider what I just described as "just for fun"? I wasn't sure before now, but I think there is something wrong with you. Go yank somebody else's chain.
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She's entitled to ban any dissent from her site if she wants. But it's pointless to compare it with GLP which is an open battleground for anyone - that was my point.

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No, here when she did Zeta talk it was not for trying to prove her wrong, it was a question and answer session...that's why you got kicked out.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You mean it was only for questions which presume that whatever Nancy has previously said has been correct.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


There's a difference between asking a question, and telling her she's wrong...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Not really. There are lots of questions which expose her errors indirectly. Of course she wouldn't answer them and banned the asker.
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The wording is all telling.

Nancy and her followers are now AT WAR.

The armies of the ignorant once again.

This is history repeating
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17077072


It's just another step in the 'cultification' of Zetatalk. Cults have to have enemies and feel that they are being persecuted.
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The wording is all telling.

Nancy and her followers are now AT WAR.

The armies of the ignorant once again.

This is history repeating
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17077072


It's just another step in the 'cultification' of Zetatalk. Cults have to have enemies and feel that they are being persecuted.
 Quoting: Menow 17033478


Excellent point . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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I never said there was. I'm simply pointing out that the information you are requesting from this person has specifically been proven itself to be unreliable and incorrect. Why don't you ask her about how much dog meat one needs to consume in order to see "planet X" by eye.
 Quoting: Astromut



>> I'm simply pointing out that the information you are requesting from this person has specifically been proven itself to be unreliable and incorrect.


All fine and dandy. However, that is a reason to be skeptical, not dismissive! Always remember, in "the boy who cried wolf" fable, the wolf does eventually show up for real!

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


In this case the wolf would be showing signs of its presence in the positions of the planets long before it arrived. It's not there. You supposedly gave up on Nancy after her 2012 failure. Guess you really learned nothing by it and lied.
 Quoting: Astromut


>> and lied

Why are debunkers always trying to portray me as a LIAR???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Look who crawled out of the woodwork, minion.
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She doesn't like the trolls...Nancy tells us what the Zetas tell her, she makes her own observations from that info as well...
 Quoting: BRIEF


And by "troll" you mean someone who points out where she is wrong.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


If you read the rules in her opening posts, then yeah that's what I mean.
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No one was wondering why Nancy banned people from her chats. Why are you explaining the obvious?
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Start from the beginning, some WERE wondering.
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No, here when she did Zeta talk it was not for trying to prove her wrong, it was a question and answer session...that's why you got kicked out.
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You mean it was only for questions which presume that whatever Nancy has previously said has been correct.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


There's a difference between asking a question, and telling her she's wrong...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Not really. There are lots of questions which expose her errors indirectly. Of course she wouldn't answer them and banned the asker.
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You may not know the difference, given your limited intelligence, but a person can absolutely ask a question without being a dick.
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And by "troll" you mean someone who points out where she is wrong.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


If you read the rules in her opening posts, then yeah that's what I mean.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No one was wondering why Nancy banned people from her chats. Why are you explaining the obvious?
 Quoting: Menow 17033478


Start from the beginning, some WERE wondering.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Rhetorical.
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If you read the rules in her opening posts, then yeah that's what I mean.
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No one was wondering why Nancy banned people from her chats. Why are you explaining the obvious?
 Quoting: Menow 17033478


Start from the beginning, some WERE wondering.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Rhetorical.
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If I give information you don't need, then skip over it without making something over it...can you do that?
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No one was wondering why Nancy banned people from her chats. Why are you explaining the obvious?
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Start from the beginning, some WERE wondering.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Rhetorical.
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If I give information you don't need, then skip over it without making something over it...can you do that?
 Quoting: BRIEF


Just pointing out those questions were most likely rhetorical, most of us know why Nancy banned anyone who didn't suck up to her.
Bet you were never banned.
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I find it interesting that at the Earth Changes and Pole Shift blog, vicious and provoking comments to other posters is never heard.

Yet, here at GLP, everyone is fair game to be ridiculed, sliced and diced and left for the buzzards by those who have no manners or a true cause to believe in.
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That's because free thought is not allowed on the ning. You either believe whatever they tell you, or you'll find yourself banned.
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Quite a LECTURE there CB - from one who is calling for MY BANNING on another well-known GLP thread!!

:oh_irony:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


It was suggested you be banned after YOU admitted you were a liar, a troll, a shill, and that you run sock puppets. And apparently you WILL be banned....;-)

Perhaps is you did not lie, did not troll, did not shill, and did not try to run sock puppets you may have had a more enjoyable time.
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I find it interesting that at the Earth Changes and Pole Shift blog, vicious and provoking comments to other posters is never heard.

Yet, here at GLP, everyone is fair game to be ridiculed, sliced and diced and left for the buzzards by those who have no manners or a true cause to believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15420023


That's because free thought is not allowed on the ning. You either believe whatever they tell you, or you'll find yourself banned.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Quite a LECTURE there CB - from one who is calling for MY BANNING on another well-known GLP thread!!

:oh_irony:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


It was suggested you be banned after YOU admitted you were a liar, a troll, a shill, and that you run sock puppets. And apparently you WILL be banned....;-)

Perhaps is you did not lie, did not troll, did not shill, and did not try to run sock puppets you may have had a more enjoyable time.

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What do you expect from someone who names themself after a drug ?

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That's because free thought is not allowed on the ning. You either believe whatever they tell you, or you'll find yourself banned.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Quite a LECTURE there CB - from one who is calling for MY BANNING on another well-known GLP thread!!

:oh_irony:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


It was suggested you be banned after YOU admitted you were a liar, a troll, a shill, and that you run sock puppets. And apparently you WILL be banned....;-)

Perhaps is you did not lie, did not troll, did not shill, and did not try to run sock puppets you may have had a more enjoyable time.

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What do you expect from someone who names themself after a drug ?

Zetamax Retard
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Is that a drug he is on, or is he SUPPOSED to be on it? ;-)

Melfy was the one who admitted he was a liar a troll cry, and then he wonders after he confesses to being a liar why folks treat him as a liar? Not too bright, but perfect fodder for a delusional, senile, mean spirited psychotic like LIEDer.
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Nibiru is coming and we will see two suns but we just don't know the day and the time. It will happen when we least expect it. I think that those who make fun or laugh of what they don't know, are walking on the path idiocy. How many times Columbus, was the center of jokes because he said the world was round?
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only the x-tians zealots and the church insisted that the world was flat....
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Nibiru is coming and we will see two suns but we just don't know the day and the time. It will happen when we least expect it. I think that those who make fun or laugh of what they don't know, are walking on the path idiocy. How many times Columbus, was the center of jokes because he said the world was round?
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only the x-tians zealots and the church insisted that the world was flat....
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And I bet a high percentage of Nibiru believers are Christians, The doom monger Christians are not happy unless they are spreaing fear amongst their fellow man carrying a post around their necks 24/7 stating "the end is nigh" ... It's a cult thing.
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That's strange - I don't know any Christians going around saying the end is nigh. I was even raised Christian and never once heard the pastor saying the end of the world was near. I don't believe in organized religion for other reasons - namely, they're full of hypocrites.
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That's strange - I don't know any Christians going around saying the end is nigh. I was even raised Christian and never once heard the pastor saying the end of the world was near. I don't believe in organized religion for other reasons - namely, they're full of hypocrites.
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I said "I bet most Nibiru believers are Christians".
Now as you are not a Nibtard that doesn't apply to you.

I actually meant in GLP land. What I have found is MOST posters on here that believe the end is nigh with Nibiru/Ice Age/Asteroid/Elenin and any other scenario that creates a panic, are usually Christians quoting passages from the bible telling us it has all been written and we should make our peace with God.

I didn't say all Christians are as deluded as the extreme ELE believers are, but those who believe "the end is nigh" like to have or be part of a clique/cult following.
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So when's the estimated time for the pole shift?
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Accordingly to Nancy "...certainly sometime before 2012..."

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You mean it was only for questions which presume that whatever Nancy has previously said has been correct.
 Quoting: Menow 17086063


There's a difference between asking a question, and telling her she's wrong...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Not really. There are lots of questions which expose her errors indirectly. Of course she wouldn't answer them and banned the asker.
 Quoting: Menow 17033478


You may not know the difference, given your limited intelligence, but a person can absolutely ask a question without being a dick.
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How come I have yet to see you do it then?

Do you relish and take great satisfaction in being a dick?
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I think she used to be a mod years ago, but is not a moderator now.

If that is true, how can anyone blame Nancy Lieder is they are banned from GLP? Seems odd that people would blame her for something over which she has no control.

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