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Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened

 
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I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".

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Maybe I should put "ZOMBIE" in thread title? chuckle
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I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Friend..sadly humans have been regionally born and enslaved to comply to a whole host of fake, corrupt and delusional hierarchies and their artificially polarising divide and rule doctrines and empire agendas for many millenia.

Their actions and cycles are all very similar predictable..but still the masses crave to believe, serve and bow down to them...and so the familar cycles of boom, bust and wars will continue...sadly most people see it and know it and either fight it, remain on their knees or arse lick and hope to benefit.

But when you realise that one percent of humanity continues to own and control of 60% of global resources and assets..you realise the notions and ideals of humanity is all a criminal bullshit ponzi scheme really
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Friend..sadly humans have been regionally born and enslaved to comply to a whole host of fake, corrupt and delusional hierarchies and their artificially polarising divide and rule doctrines and empire agendas for many millenia.

Their actions and cycles are all very similar predictable..but still the masses crave to believe, serve and bow down to them...and so the familar cycles of boom, bust and wars will continue...sadly most people see it and know it and either fight it, remain on their knees or arse lick and hope to benefit.

But when you realise that one percent of humanity continues to own and control of 60% of global resources and assets..you realise the notions and ideals of humanity is all a criminal bullshit ponzi scheme really
 Quoting: humanitech 17102451


Friend, you with your artificial bipolar hierarchies are growing to be more entertaining than that new jerusalem guy with his calendar!
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Interesting...
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Interesting...
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Yup.
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What is the title of the book?
The Orignal.
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Vatican Royal insider?
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What is the title of the book?
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Russia's Policy and the Danubian Principalities
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We are so controlled it's amazing,Anything we find out they want us to know
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I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Friend..sadly humans have been regionally born and enslaved to comply to a whole host of fake, corrupt and delusional hierarchies and their artificially polarising divide and rule doctrines and empire agendas for many millenia.

Their actions and cycles are all very similar predictable..but still the masses crave to believe, serve and bow down to them...and so the familar cycles of boom, bust and wars will continue...sadly most people see it and know it and either fight it, remain on their knees or arse lick and hope to benefit.

But when you realise that one percent of humanity continues to own and control of 60% of global resources and assets..you realise the notions and ideals of humanity is all a criminal bullshit ponzi scheme really
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arse?
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Re: Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened
I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
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+1000000000
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Re: Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened
I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
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I really don't think that quote say's anything important as we in the WEST are far from emancipated and a lot short on "LIBERTY" these days. Was that in the plan also?
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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you made the conection with rothchild yourself? Wouldnt it be more realistic that there are more central figures than only rothchild? Or you believe we should actually just call this planet rothchilds playground?
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
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The average life expectancy during the time he lived was probably around 30 to 40. That's 50% of how old he got.
I think it's quite strange, kinda comparable to a man becoming 150 years old right now.
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238775


The average life expectancy during the time he lived was probably around 30 to 40. That's 50% of how old he got.
I think it's quite strange, kinda comparable to a man becoming 150 years old right now.
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That fact was told to you or was read somewhere. It may not be factual.

The Old Testament says some people lived to be 700 yrs old.

There are two truths in this life.......ones you are taught and ones that you know from inside. The ones we're taught are suspect to be false at times.

The ONLY source of indestructible truth is inside us all.
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238775


The average life expectancy during the time he lived was probably around 30 to 40. That's 50% of how old he got.
I think it's quite strange, kinda comparable to a man becoming 150 years old right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


The key word is "average" lots of people make that mistake.
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I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Friend..sadly humans have been regionally born and enslaved to comply to a whole host of fake, corrupt and delusional hierarchies and their artificially polarising divide and rule doctrines and empire agendas for many millenia.

Their actions and cycles are all very similar predictable..but still the masses crave to believe, serve and bow down to them...and so the familar cycles of boom, bust and wars will continue...sadly most people see it and know it and either fight it, remain on their knees or arse lick and hope to benefit.

But when you realise that one percent of humanity continues to own and control of 60% of global resources and assets..you realise the notions and ideals of humanity is all a criminal bullshit ponzi scheme really
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The Mayan's say we are going to evolve from the era of POWER to ETHICS in 2012. The only problem is I don't know if it will be in our same bodies. We may have to come back with a new model.
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
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Hm.. so drinking Austrian blood makes one live longer?
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Nice bit of research OP.

I would suggest that people dig through google newspaper archives [link to news.google.co.uk] There's a whole lot of stuff in there - much of which I've not seen mention of before. It's a very underused resource.
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I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Friend..sadly humans have been regionally born and enslaved to comply to a whole host of fake, corrupt and delusional hierarchies and their artificially polarising divide and rule doctrines and empire agendas for many millenia.

Their actions and cycles are all very similar predictable..but still the masses crave to believe, serve and bow down to them...and so the familar cycles of boom, bust and wars will continue...sadly most people see it and know it and either fight it, remain on their knees or arse lick and hope to benefit.

But when you realise that one percent of humanity continues to own and control of 60% of global resources and assets..you realise the notions and ideals of humanity is all a criminal bullshit ponzi scheme really
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If you took all of the wealth of the planet
and distributed it equally amidst every human being
on the planet,
it wouldn't take a decade before all the poor, stupid
people had lost everything,
("a fool and his money are soon parted"),
and the cream (and the scum) would rise to the top.

This isn't some devious conspiracy.
It natural selection at work.
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
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Hm.. so drinking Austrian blood makes one live longer?
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Re: 19th Century Bible has Rothschild parody poem pasted in back
I got this German Bible (made in America) at an estate sale. I found a clipping from a newspaper posted in the back. The owner must have felt strongly to paste it in his/her Bible!

Bible is from about 1888. The parody prayer I've only found once in a newspaper archive from Iowa dated 1886.

Here is the text and the pics of my book are linked below.

JAY GOULD'S PRAYER

Our father, who art in England;
Rothschilds be thy name, thy financial
kingdom come in tho United States
as it is in England. Give us this
day our bonds in gold, but not silver;
give us plenty of laboring men's
votes to keep monopoly in power
and their friends in office. We
know, father, that we have done
many things that were wrong; we
have robbed tho honest poor, and
brought distress to many a door; we
know it was wrong to refund the
bonds and make them payable in
coin; We know it was wrong to
demonetize silver; We know it was
wrong to water all our railroad
stocks; but thou knowest we made
money by that. Now, our father
thou knowest we are above politics.
It is the same to us, whether the
Republicans or Democrats rule, for
thou knowest we are able to sway
all political jobs in our favor. Lend
us not into the way of strikers, but
deliver us from insane Knights of
Labor. Thus shall we have the
kingdom, bonds, interest, power and
gold till the republic shall end-
Amen.—Ex.
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He was Born about 15 miles from me up here. I am very appreciative of this "poem"


Jay Gould
Born: 27-May-1836 [1]
Birthplace: Roxbury, NY
Died: 2-Dec-1892
Location of death: New York City
Cause of death: Tuberculosis
Remains: Buried, Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx, NY

Gender: Male
Religion: Presbyterian
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Business
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Railroad baron owned Union Pacific

The American financier Jay Gould was born in Roxbury, Delaware county, New York, on the 27th of May 1836. He was brought up on his father's farm, studied at Hobart Academy, and though he left school in his sixteenth year, devoted himself assiduously thereafter to private study, chiefly of mathematics and surveying, at the same time keeping books for a blacksmith for his board. For a short time he worked for his father in the hardware business; in 1852-6 he worked as a surveyor in preparing maps of Ulster, Albany and Delaware counties in New York, of Lake and Geauga counties in Ohio, and of Oakland county in Michigan, and of a projected railway line between Newburgh and Syracuse, New York. An ardent anti-renter in his boyhood and youth, he wrote A History of Delaware County and the Border Wars of New York, containing a Sketch of the Early Settlements in the County, and A History of the Late Anti-Rent Difficulties in Delaware (Roxbury, 1856). He then engaged in the lumber and tanning business in western New York, and in banking at Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. In 1863 he married Miss Helen Day Miller, and through her father, Daniel S. Miller, he was appointed manager of the Rensselaer & Saratoga railway, which he bought up when it was in a very bad condition, and skilfully reorganized; in the same way he bought and reorganized the Rutland & Washington railway, from which he ultimately realized a large profit. In 1859 he removed to New York City, where he became a broker in railway stocks, and in 1868 he was elected president of the Erie railway, of which by shrewd strategy he and Jim Fisk had gained control in July of that year. The management of the road under his control, and especially the sale of $5M of fraudulent stock in 1868-70, led to litigation begun by English bondholders, and Gould was forced out of the company in March 1872 and compelled to restore securities valued at about $7.5 million. It was during his control of the Erie that he and Fisk entered into a league with the Tweed Ring, they admitted Tweed to the directorate of the Erie, and Tweed in turn arranged favorable legislation for them at Albany. With Tweed, Gould was cartooned by Thomas Nast in 1869. In October 1871 Gould was the chief bondsman of Tweed when the latter was held in $1 million bail. With Fisk in August 1869 he began to buy gold in a daring attempt to "corner" the market, his hope being that, with the advance in price of gold, wheat would advance to such a price that western farmers would sell, and there would be a consequent great movement of breadstuffs from West to East, which would result in increased freight business for the Erie road. His speculations in gold, during which he attempted through President Ulysses S. Grant's brother-in-law, A. H. Corbin, to influence the President and his secretary General Horace Porter, culminated in the panic of "Black Friday", on the 24th of September 1869, when the price of gold fell from 162 to 135 dollars.

Gould gained control of the Union Pacific, from which in 1883 he withdrew after realizing a large profit. Buying up the stock of the Missouri Pacific he built up, by means of consolidations, reorganizations, and the construction of branch lines, the "Gould System" of railways in the Southwestern states. In 1880 he was in virtual control of 10,000 miles of railway, about one-ninth of the railway mileage of the United States at that time. Besides, he obtained a controlling interest in the Western Union Telegraph Company, and after 1881 in the elevated railways in New York City, and was intimately connected with many of the largest railway financial operations in the United States for the twenty years following 1868. Hedied of consumption and of mental strain on the 2nd of December 1892, his fortune at that time being estimated at $72 million; all of this he left to his own family.

His eldest son, George Jay Gould (b. 1864), was prominent also as an owner and manager of railways, and became president of the Little Rock & Fort Smith railway (1888), the St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern railway (1893), the International & Great Northern railway (1893), the Missouri Pacific railway (1893), the Texas & Pacific railway (1893), and the Manhattan Railway Company (1892); he was also vice-president and director of the Western Union Telegraph Company. It was under his control that the Wabash system became transcontinental and secured an Atlantic port at Baltimore; and it was he who brought about a friendly alliance between the Gould and the Rockefeller interests.

The eldest daughter, Hellen Miller Gould (b. 1868), became widely known as a philanthropist, and particularly for her generous gifts to American army hospitals in the war with Spain in 1898 and for her many contributions to New York University, to which she gave $250,000 for a library in 1895 and $100,000 for a Hall of Fame in 1900.
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Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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austrian blood rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238775


The average life expectancy during the time he lived was probably around 30 to 40. That's 50% of how old he got.
I think it's quite strange, kinda comparable to a man becoming 150 years old right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


The key word is "average" lots of people make that mistake.
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Yeah, but it's still impressive:

For most of human history, the average lifespan was considerably less than 50 years. It began to rise markedly in the 19th century, hitting 49 in the United States in 1900, and then took off in the 20th century.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

In many parts of the world even today for a man to reach 80 is considered impressive. Let alone the mid-1800s.
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Re: Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened
You need to go further back in history to Byzantium and read from there.

Here's a good place to start:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened
I'm currently reading a book written by Karl Ludwig Count von Ficquelmont in 1854.

Who was Count von Ficquelmont?

He was part of the elite in the 1800s. His biography is here:

[link to www.ohio.edu]

As you can see he was 77 years old when he wrote the book.

What his brief biography doesn't say however is that while stationed in Naples Ficquelmont acted on behalf of Rothschild interests as ordered by Metternich. He met Rothschild himself numerous times.

On page 32 of that book I found this:

"How is it that, suddenly, Russia has grown to the point it is an empire stronger than the rest of the world? Russia, they say, can, when she pleases, invade the greatest part of Asia, turning at the same time against Europe, conquering the Sound, rolling back the Turkish Empire, establishing herself at Constantinople, breaking through the Dardanelles and turning the Mediterranean into a Russian lake. Then marching through Central Europe she will soon be able to conquer it all.

And as we see her already touching the United States of America through North Asia, we will establish this immense struggle between the Old World and the New World, each of the two worlds represented by a single power and each of these two powers representing the principle of despotism and the principle of liberty respectively. And it's through this struggle, whose outcome cannot be in doubt, that the human race will come to its emancipation".
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YES!
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Re: Rothschild insider disclosed plans for Cold War 90 years before it happened
Count Karl Ludwig von Ficquelmont died at the age of 80. How was it possible for someone who lived from 1777 to 1857 to get that old?
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Noble bloodline, many ancestors that lived the prosperous lifestyle of the elite are factors that probably had a big role to play in that:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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