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Carbon Dating is only accurate if they don't know the Actual Age

 
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Carbon dating is only 1 method of 100 they use to verify these things.
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And they are all based on your favourite: ASSUMPTION

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how to prove the bible false in one word........


DINOSAURS
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How to destroy a idiocracy evotard:

Origins of the Word Dinosaur

Sir Richard Owen

What is the origin of the word dinosaur? I ask many people this question and surprisingly most people don't know. One of those little known dinosaur facts is that the word dinosaur is a relatively new word in the English language.

The word dinosaur literally means "terrible, powerful, wondrous lizards." The word became popular after biologist and paleontologist, Sir Richard Owen coined the term "Dinosauria" in 1841. The word dinosaur derives from two greek words (deinos) "terrible, powerful, wondrous" + (sauros) "lizard".

So what would a person prior to 1841 call a giant, powerful, wondrous lizard if they saw one? The answer to that question is really quite obvious especially if we look back into the historical record for evidence of giant, powerful, wondrous lizards. Can you Guess?

Another amazing dinosaur fact is that every culture had names for these giant, powerful, wondrous lizards.

Explorers described them, historians wrote about them, and they have been romanticized in many cultures throughout the world. Can you guess yet?
[link to forbidden-history.com]


D R A G O N
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Yeah Yeah.. again hovind knows and the bible knows too!!?? stop joking people!!..

Radio-carbon dating has flaws, we all know that..
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That's why its only 1 method they use to give a ball park figure.
Then they use other methods to narrow it down and confirm it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16735882


i do know that mate.. carbon half time of the isotope 14C is variable is dependend on the environment that the objects are found in, in the dessert a similar aged object would date different then one from the arctics and if the production rate of 14C in the atmosphere is not equal to the removal rate (mostly through decay), this ratio will change...
yet a combined dating method still shows many objects are much older then hovind claims..
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Its glad to see you have a brain and a free thought mind instead of a cultist follower mentality.
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cheers cheers mate... same to you as well..

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Carbon dating is only 1 method of 100 they use to verify these things.
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And they are all based on your favourite: ASSUMPTION

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Evotards are idiocracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17175507


No they are based on different things, carbon dating is just to find the basic era they came from.
My friend is an anthropologist and my cousin as an archaeologist and I can tell you it takes them many years to come to a determination on age.
And requires hundreds of peoples opinions and studies and methods.
You religious cult people just make yourself look stupid.
Im not saying don't believe in God or Jesus, but the Bible says nothing on the age of the Earth.
This is made up by cultists who seek to take your money and control your mind.
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quote from site:

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How long does it take coal to form?

We have been taught that it takes millions of years for coal to form. However, in a laboratory, researchers have made low-quality coal in less that one year. It takes eleven years to produce coal that is very close to "Natural" coal. For example, under the right conditions, diamonds can be made in days and opals in a few months to a few years.



How long does it take oil to form?

Popular education tells us that the dinosaurs, buried in sediment millions of years ago, have become the "fossil fuel" or oil that we use today.

An article in Chemical and Engineering News (May 29, 1972) describes the process for making oil.

The [cow] manure was heated at 716° F [380° C], at 2,000 to 5,000 pounds per square inch [900 to 2250 kilograms per square inch] for 20 minutes in the presence of carbon monoxide and steam. The product was a heavy oil of excellent heating quality. The yield was about three barrels of oil per ton of manure.


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quote from site:

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How long does it take coal to form?

We have been taught that it takes millions of years for coal to form. However, in a laboratory, researchers have made low-quality coal in less that one year. It takes eleven years to produce coal that is very close to "Natural" coal. For example, under the right conditions, diamonds can be made in days and opals in a few months to a few years.



How long does it take oil to form?

Popular education tells us that the dinosaurs, buried in sediment millions of years ago, have become the "fossil fuel" or oil that we use today.

An article in Chemical and Engineering News (May 29, 1972) describes the process for making oil.

The [cow] manure was heated at 716° F [380° C], at 2,000 to 5,000 pounds per square inch [900 to 2250 kilograms per square inch] for 20 minutes in the presence of carbon monoxide and steam. The product was a heavy oil of excellent heating quality. The yield was about three barrels of oil per ton of manure.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1139115


But it takes way longer to be made naturally, this is the problem with you lunatics.
To make it in a lab requires massive amounts of energy and cost to make it quick.
This is why its uneconomical.
But in nature it takes millions of years.
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how to prove the bible false in one word........


DINOSAURS
 Quoting: Zack18257


How to destroy a idiocracy evotard:

Origins of the Word Dinosaur

Sir Richard Owen

What is the origin of the word dinosaur? I ask many people this question and surprisingly most people don't know. One of those little known dinosaur facts is that the word dinosaur is a relatively new word in the English language.

The word dinosaur literally means "terrible, powerful, wondrous lizards." The word became popular after biologist and paleontologist, Sir Richard Owen coined the term "Dinosauria" in 1841. The word dinosaur derives from two greek words (deinos) "terrible, powerful, wondrous" + (sauros) "lizard".

So what would a person prior to 1841 call a giant, powerful, wondrous lizard if they saw one? The answer to that question is really quite obvious especially if we look back into the historical record for evidence of giant, powerful, wondrous lizards. Can you Guess?

Another amazing dinosaur fact is that every culture had names for these giant, powerful, wondrous lizards.

Explorers described them, historians wrote about them, and they have been romanticized in many cultures throughout the world. Can you guess yet?
[link to forbidden-history.com]


D R A G O N
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that is the most retarded website ive ever been to
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Radioactive Decay Rates Not Stable

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

For about a century, radioactive decay rates have been heralded as steady and stable processes that can be reliably used to help measure how old rocks are. They helped underpin belief in vast ages and had largely gone unchallenged. But certain decay rates apparently aren’t as stable as some would hope.

Several decades ago, strange fluctuations were observed in several radioactive decay systems. These systems have unstable nuclei that emit various particles and radiation until they stabilize. It was finally established that these seasonal fluctuations corresponded to the distance between the earth and the sun. When the earth is closest to the sun, solar neutrinos evidently accelerate nuclear decay.1
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This is a very interesting concept. I agree... the fact that they "CLAIM" to be able to know the age of something thousands and millions of years old... based on science that is barely 100 years old... is quite a claim.

I don't care what they say... if you really think about it.... it makes no sense whatsoever.
 Quoting: Six Six Six


Right on!

Much of what scientists "know" are only theories with a bunch of evidence that supports it.. while ignoring everything that doesn't. Anyone can make an educated guess.. but it takes brains to make the guess believable by everyone else LoL

Of course, there are some things easily proven... even then, our understanding of many things (how they work, came to be and all that hoopla) is still pretty limited.
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No one ever carbon dated something to the day.
Even you religious cultists give figures which are within the realm of error correction through other means.
No one ever said it was a date specific method.
This is what makes you people look so ridiculous cruise
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how to prove the bible false in one word........


DINOSAURS
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I'm sorry but if you would read the book of Job you would find that two dinosaurs are described Leviathan and Bohemoth is what they were called.
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how to prove the bible false in one word........


DINOSAURS
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I'm sorry but if you would read the book of Job you would find that two dinosaurs are described Leviathan and Bohemoth is what they were called.
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so the book of job is a fantasy story, so we really cant use that as a good example

just f y i

dinosaur bones and human bones havent been dug up together
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Yeah Yeah.. again hovind knows and the bible knows too!!?? stop joking people!!..

Radio-carbon dating has flaws, we all know that..

But how can people think 'god' knows all and knows all about science as well??
Example: When the Bible was written and compiled, things were different. People believed that we were in a geocentric universe (the earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around it), they thought the earth was flat, and other basic scientific phenomenon were unknown to these people.
Even as late as 1492, people were convinced that silly old Columbus was going to fall off of the earth.
^^^ god and the bible knows all and is correct? haha

But as we know today, the earth is a sphere, and there are no ends on a sphere. Just pick up a ball and find its ends. It's not flat nor a disk shaped thing.. Columbus had to prove that and what do you think?? he did!!

(religitards are crazyjak)
 Quoting: eclectic mind


LOL typical dum tard, this is so stupid and wrong in so many ways. The geocentric theory came from Aristotle, not the Bible, which became a dominant mode of thought during the Renaissance. And not all ancient people believed the the earth was flat, some surmised even thousands of years ago it was curved. Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth a couple of thousand years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15526347


[link to creationwiki.org]

[link to www.christiananswers.net]

[link to www.godlessgeeks.com]

Really look into these things dude before you go spouting some idiots nonsense.
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This is all promoted by religitardism.

No matter how muddy you make the waters, it doesn't make literal interpretation of the Bible any less RETARDED.
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clappa
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Yeah Yeah.. again hovind knows and the bible knows too!!?? stop joking people!!..

Radio-carbon dating has flaws, we all know that..

But how can people think 'god' knows all and knows all about science as well??
Example: When the Bible was written and compiled, things were different. People believed that we were in a geocentric universe (the earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around it), they thought the earth was flat, and other basic scientific phenomenon were unknown to these people.
Even as late as 1492, people were convinced that silly old Columbus was going to fall off of the earth.
^^^ god and the bible knows all and is correct? haha

But as we know today, the earth is a sphere, and there are no ends on a sphere. Just pick up a ball and find its ends. It's not flat nor a disk shaped thing.. Columbus had to prove that and what do you think?? he did!!

(religitards are crazyjak)
 Quoting: eclectic mind


LOL typical dum tard, this is so stupid and wrong in so many ways. The geocentric theory came from Aristotle, not the Bible, which became a dominant mode of thought during the Renaissance. And not all ancient people believed the the earth was flat, some surmised even thousands of years ago it was curved. Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth a couple of thousand years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15526347


hehehe who is the indoctrinated dumbtard here? why would things be wrongfully writen down in your 'story book'?dumbtard!!
just some examples?...
[link to biblebabble.curbjaw.com]
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This is what I really meant to qoute cause Im talking to eclectic (retard)mind
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Science = Some "smart " guys best guess.
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Science = Some "smart " guys best guess.
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^^ THIS.

HOW ARROGANT HUMANITY HAS BECOME.

50 years of modern day science and you think you know it all. Go build a fucking pyramid to perfection like they did in Egypt... then come talk to me Scitards. Oh that's right... YOU CAN'T!

fks
Biko
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Tell me this scientists... how do you know the half-life of carbon has remained a constant variable throughout time?
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They don't but really stupid people will believe anything that someone tells them is scientific!
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Living snails that carbon-date to 2,300 years old, a living seal that was carbon-dated at 1,300 years old, and 8,000-year-old living penguins.




Tell me this scientists... how do you know the half-life of carbon has remained a constant variable throughout time?
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Carbon dating is BS...
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Tell me this scientists... how do you know the half-life of carbon has remained a constant variable throughout time?
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They don't but really stupid people will believe anything that someone tells them is scientific!
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really stupid people believe really stupid things the bible and their church tell them
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Yeah Yeah.. again hovind knows and the bible knows too!!?? stop joking people!!..

Radio-carbon dating has flaws, we all know that..

But how can people think 'god' knows all and knows all about science as well??
Example: When the Bible was written and compiled, things were different. People believed that we were in a geocentric universe (the earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around it), they thought the earth was flat, and other basic scientific phenomenon were unknown to these people.
Even as late as 1492, people were convinced that silly old Columbus was going to fall off of the earth.
^^^ god and the bible knows all and is correct? haha

But as we know today, the earth is a sphere, and there are no ends on a sphere. Just pick up a ball and find its ends. It's not flat nor a disk shaped thing.. Columbus had to prove that and what do you think?? he did!!

(religitards are crazyjak)
 Quoting: eclectic mind


LOL typical dum tard, this is so stupid and wrong in so many ways. The geocentric theory came from Aristotle, not the Bible, which became a dominant mode of thought during the Renaissance. And not all ancient people believed the the earth was flat, some surmised even thousands of years ago it was curved. Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth a couple of thousand years ago.
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hehehe who is the indoctrinated dumbtard here? why would things be wrongfully writen down in your 'story book'?dumbtard!!
just some examples?...
[link to biblebabble.curbjaw.com]
 Quoting: eclectic mind



This is what I really meant to qoute cause Im talking to eclectic (retard)mind
 Quoting: Phoenix 16813311


poor you phoenix dumbtard.. just keep reading your creationism books and story book (sorry bible) and stay as dumb and numb as you really are.. i actually don't care, it just keeps amazing how rediculous your ideas are to me..
there is evidence for many things through the scientific community, yet not for the existance of a creator god or any of that bs only a story book..

keep dreaming story book tard.. hahaha

creationwiki as reliable as wiki itself?? bwahahaha
cristiansanswers of course a cristian spin to it all..
godlessgeeks also a religitard spin on things..
just keep changing the way you explain and read the bible over and over again.. till you get it right..

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Living snails that carbon-date to 2,300 years old, a living seal that was carbon-dated at 1,300 years old, and 8,000-year-old living penguins.




Tell me this scientists... how do you know the half-life of carbon has remained a constant variable throughout time?
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O-KAY...

It sounds like someone has a problem with carbon dating.
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Science = Some "smart " guys best guess.
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^^ THIS.

HOW ARROGANT HUMANITY HAS BECOME.

50 years of modern day science and you think you know it all. Go build a fucking pyramid to perfection like they did in Egypt... then come talk to me Scitards. Oh that's right... YOU CAN'T!

fks
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huh, now the ancient egyptian civilization is also based on the 'knowledge' from the bible??
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LOL typical dum tard, this is so stupid and wrong in so many ways. The geocentric theory came from Aristotle, not the Bible, which became a dominant mode of thought during the Renaissance. And not all ancient people believed the the earth was flat, some surmised even thousands of years ago it was curved. Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth a couple of thousand years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15526347


hehehe who is the indoctrinated dumbtard here? why would things be wrongfully writen down in your 'story book'?dumbtard!!
just some examples?...
[link to biblebabble.curbjaw.com]
 Quoting: eclectic mind



This is what I really meant to qoute cause Im talking to eclectic (retard)mind
 Quoting: Phoenix 16813311


poor you phoenix dumbtard.. just keep reading your creationism books and story book (sorry bible) and stay as dumb and numb as you really are.. i actually don't care, it just keeps amazing how rediculous your ideas are to me..
there is evidence for many things through the scientific community, yet not for the existance of a creator god or any of that bs only a story book..

keep dreaming story book tard.. hahaha

creationwiki as reliable as wiki itself?? bwahahaha
cristiansanswers of course a cristian spin to it all..
godlessgeeks also a religitard spin on things..
just keep changing the way you explain and read the bible over and over again.. till you get it right..
 Quoting: eclectic mind


For starters lets start with saying you probably didnt even take the time to read what any of it said. While I actually did take the time to read that nonsense link you posted. Everything I posted quotes scripture which you can look up and read for yourself. Not info that they pull out of their bums to twist around to fit what they think it means.

Your argument second off was that the bible claims that the earth is flat not wether God exists or not. The proff I placed in front of you shows you that they themeselves way back then believed the earth was round placed in space.

Third the last link also talks about many of the things that where known about back then but werent really accepted or "discovered by science" until the past millenium or so.

Lastly by saying you dont care shows how ignorantly closed mind you truely are and how easily you can fall for a lie cause it seems "more logical". While you say there is no God where is your proof just because science claims there isnt a God to "fit in with THEIR equations".

In the end your just an ignorant fool with his head up his ass. Who will always push away proof and turn a blind eye cause he knows he might be proven wrong.

When you confront God after your death I hope God shows me what happened in the talk between you two if you die before me. Espicially if He points back to this moment.

God Bless your soul and shine truth upon you.
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they had it on MythBusters a while back. 2 dead pigs. 1 dated to thousands of years and the other was just a few months. They burried both on the same day in the same conditions.
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Is there a link to that episode online? I'd love to see it.
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how to prove the bible false in one word........


DINOSAURS
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you're a perfect example of morons discussing topics wayyyy above their IQ level.
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The only people that ever whine about carbon dating and science in general are Christians.

The trouble is, because of your biased agenda....no one listens.

People only listen to open minded folk that solve a problem with evidence. No one cares about close minded bigots that have made a decision before looking at the evidence.
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The only people that ever whine about carbon dating and science in general are Christians.

The trouble is, because of your biased agenda....no one listens.

People only listen to open minded folk that solve a problem with evidence. No one cares about close minded bigots that have made a decision before looking at the evidence.
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lol talk about indoctrination by the NWO, Christians and Christianity is the only reason you enjoy any notion of freedom today you wanker.
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The only people that ever whine about carbon dating and science in general are Christians.

The trouble is, because of your biased agenda....no one listens.

People only listen to open minded folk that solve a problem with evidence. No one cares about close minded bigots that have made a decision before looking at the evidence.
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^^^^^^^^^^^ rockon
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The only people that ever whine about carbon dating and science in general are Christians.

The trouble is, because of your biased agenda....no one listens.

People only listen to open minded folk that solve a problem with evidence. No one cares about close minded bigots that have made a decision before looking at the evidence.
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lol talk about indoctrination by the NWO, Christians and Christianity is the only reason you enjoy any notion of freedom today you wanker.
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are you really that dumb? freedom because of cristianity??? wtf????!!!!





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