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US and Israel created Stuxnet virus to take down IRAN ---if IRAN did same to US Then They would have labeled As ACT OF WAR

 
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US and Israel created Stuxnet virus to take down IRAN ---if IRAN did same to US Then They would have labeled As ACT OF WAR
Confirmed: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
Stuxnet was never meant to propagate in the wild.

by Nate Anderson - June 1 2012, 3:00am PDT
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The new account is unlikely to alter Iran's view of the US, seen here in a mural on the old US embassy in Tehran
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In 2011, the US government rolled out its "International Strategy for Cyberspace," which reminded us that "interconnected networks link nations more closely, so an attack on one nation’s networks may have impact far beyond its borders." An in-depth report today from the New York Times confirms the truth of that statement as it finally lays bare the history and development of the Stuxnet virus—and how it accidentally escaped from the Iranian nuclear facility that was its target.

The article is adapted from journalist David Sanger's forthcoming book, Confront and Conceal: Obama’s Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power, and it confirms that both the US and Israeli governments developed and deployed Stuxnet. The goal of the worm was to break Iranian nuclear centrifuge equipment by issuing specific commands to the industrial control hardware responsible for their spin rate. By doing so, both governments hoped to set back the Iranian research program—and the US hoped to keep Israel from launching a pre-emptive military attack.

The code was only supposed to work within Iran's Natanz refining facility, which was air-gapped from outside networks and thus difficult to penetrate. But computers and memory cards could be carried between the public Internet and the private Natanz network, and a preliminary bit of "beacon" code was used to map out all the network connections within the plant and report them back to the NSA.

That program, first authorized by George W. Bush, worked well enough to provide a digital map of Natanz and its industrial control hardware. Soon, US national labs were testing different bits of the plan to sabotage Natanz (apparently without knowing what the work was for) using similar centrifuges that had come from Libya's Qadaffi regime. When the coders found the right sets of commands to literally shake the centrifuges apart, they knew that Stuxnet could work.

When ready, Stuxnet was introduced to Natanz, perhaps by a double agent.

Getting the worm into Natanz, however, was no easy trick. The United States and Israel would have to rely on engineers, maintenance workers and others—both spies and unwitting accomplices—with physical access to the plant. “That was our holy grail,” one of the architects of the plan said. “It turns out there is always an idiot around who doesn’t think much about the thumb drive in their hand.”

In fact, thumb drives turned out to be critical in spreading the first variants of the computer worm; later, more sophisticated methods were developed to deliver the malicious code.
When Barack Obama came to office, he continued the program—called "Olympic Games"—which unpredictably disabled bits of the Natanz plant even as it told controllers that everything was normal. But in 2010, Stuxnet escaped Natanz, probably on someone's laptop; once connected to the outside Internet, it did what it was designed not to do: spread in public. The blame game began about who had slipped up in the coding.

“We think there was a modification done by the Israelis,” one of the briefers told the president, “and we don’t know if we were part of that activity.”

Mr. Obama, according to officials in the room, asked a series of questions, fearful that the code could do damage outside the plant. The answers came back in hedged terms. Mr. Biden fumed. “It’s got to be the Israelis,” he said. “They went too far.”
Once released more widely, the Stuxnet code was found and then disassembled by security researchers.

Please don't follow our example

As the International Strategy for Cyberspace notes, these sorts of electronic attacks are serious business. The US in fact reserves the right to use even military force to respond to similar attacks. "All states possess an inherent right to self-defense, and we recognize that certain hostile acts conducted through cyberspace could compel actions under the commitments we have with our military treaty partners," says the report. "We reserve the right to use all necessary means—diplomatic, informational, military, and economic—as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law."

Yet the US had just gone on the cyber-attack, and everyone knew it. Speculation has long swirled around government-backed hackers from nations like China and Russia, especially, who have been suspected of involvement in espionage, industrial trade secret theft, and much else. Would something like Stuxnet damage US credibility when it complained about such attacks? (China has long adopted the "you do it too!" defense on Internet issues, especially when it comes to censoring and filtering of Internet content.)

Obama was at least aware of the likely answer—yes—but pressed ahead, even accelerating the Olympic Games program.

[Obama] repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons—even under the most careful and limited circumstances—could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks. “We discussed the irony, more than once,” one of his aides said.
Stuxnet is old news by now. Even the newly discovered "Flame" malware was developed some time ago. While details about these two targeted attack packages are finally emerging, the next generation of attack tools has no doubt been developed and likely deployed.
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War war war war war war war war war war. Crazy were still here with stuff like this. Why wouldn't the other be grrrrrrrrrrrr. Tell them to leave us alone, it's pretty interesting the "what comes around goes around ying yang " back at you effect of everything, interesting to watch it come to be. Sick actually but still interesting.
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War war war war war war war war war war. Crazy were still here with stuff like this. Why wouldn't the other be grrrrrrrrrrrr. Tell them to leave us alone, it's pretty interesting the "what comes around goes around ying yang " back at you effect of everything, interesting to watch it come to be. Sick actually but still interesting.
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It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.

And you're tied to the tracks in between the two oncoming trains.

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the UN wouldnt even condemn the shooting down of an iranian air passenger jet carrying 260 passengers including 66 kids, the usa refused to apologise........so why would you expect them to give a flying fuck about a cyber attack
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It is an act of war, but Iran wont do anything about it, so in effect it means very little.
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Why is Israel trying to set up the US as the originator of this virus?

We all know who did it, and the new propaganda spin blame game is not going to change anything, nor is it going to sway public opinion in favor of Israel, so just forget it.
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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
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What goes around, comes around.
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I'd surmise that the reason Israel is doing this, is so that they will have no culpability when it is proven that Fukushima was attacked by Stuxnet, ironically only a few days after Japan supported Palestinian statehood at the UN.
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It was an act of war but Iran won't do dick about it.
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It was an act of war but Iran won't do dick about it.
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They don't have to.

As the virus makes it's way around the world, Israel and the United States will be more affected by it than Iran will.

How many nuclear power plants are there in the US?
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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
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What goes around, comes around.
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What you made, that and receive.
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It was an act of war but Iran won't do dick about it.
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They don't have to.

As the virus makes it's way around the world, Israel and the United States will be more affected by it than Iran will.

How many nuclear power plants are there in the US?
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Why wouldn't Iran do something about it? They have American-educated programmers there who could do something similar.
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What can you tell me about the izzie shills on here who last week blamed OBAMA for flame AND stuxnet?

We know all about fukushima, and why its control systems were infected---FOR JAPAN'S SUPPORT FOR PALESTINIAN STATEHOOD AT THE UN.

IF the US had deployed stuxnet, then by that action they would have committed suicide.

It's not us, contrary to what msm says.
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No Republican wants to investigate Leaks
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Now Mossad taking credit of Hacking ----Cyber war
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Why wouldn't Iran do something about it? They have American-educated programmers there who could do something similar.
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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
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What goes around, comes around.
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By all means; but there's another side of the story.

I'm not impressed by Obama and even less by Bush. But from what I learned; Bush approved the development of the virus and Obama it use to make the planned Israeli military attack on the plant needless - it's consequences would have been even worse. STUXNET was a lesser evil.

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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16267115

What goes around, comes around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17203701

By all means; but there's another side of the story.

I'm not impressed by Obama and even less by Bush. But from what I learned; Bush approved the development of the virus and Obama it use to make the planned Israeli military attack on the plant needless - it's consequences would have been even worse. STUXNET was a lesser evil.

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Obama is same as bush
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Iran not need made virus like it. Israel and USA lost control virus. And virus return in Israel and USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16267115

What goes around, comes around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17203701

By all means; but there's another side of the story.

I'm not impressed by Obama and even less by Bush. But from what I learned; Bush approved the development of the virus and Obama it use to make the planned Israeli military attack on the plant needless - it's consequences would have been even worse. STUXNET was a lesser evil.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17653242

Obama is same as bush
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Close but no cigars; Obama at least didn't start any war, but - more or less - finished the US engagement in one.

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I totally agree with the OP

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