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Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993  United States02/09/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "As Above, So Below" Quoting: Pinocchia 34014301 is a FUNDAMENTAL VIOLATION OF THE "PRIME OBJECTIVE" OF non-Interference of Subjective Entities in the matters of the Physical inhabitants on any planet. It is UN-lawful! They have finite time to achieve their goals and objectives before their punishment. The violations will be addressed. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | none of this symbolism is of God...and all this does is make me want to avoid any and all religious gatherings of any judeo-christian element as my parents pretty much did ... just sticking to "we believe in God" and living moral lives. Quoting: moxnix 29391465 this symbolism is man-made. not divine. our human minds are not capable of understanding God unless God wants us to do so....God is infinite and that in and of itself is not something which the human brain can comprehend without God's intervention. Correct. The bible even provides all of this information beforehand. Exodus 20:4 You shall not make unto yourself any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Sound familiar? I can't find the other verse I'm looking for where it goes on about not creating or using symbols. Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says YHWH. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| TheDude99 User ID: 26324660  Canada02/09/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard all this before, and I ask again, what does it matter? It doesn't mean anything unless you can use this knowledge in some meaningful way, no? Quoting: TheDude99 it matters because the way to a better world is to understand that every thought word and action has resonance , power and consequence that your own thoughts words and actions can harm or heal-yourself and others - your choice (your responsibility) and that harm or heal is non local - as it were - we all feel it and it has influence whether we are aware of that or not it matters to know that none of us know everything we all need each other -we are a collective it matters to become self aware enough to put that knowledge into practice as often as possible in as many situations as possible and not to beat yourself up for falling short- you're human but dust yourself down and try again -again ,very human it matters because generating a better light on an individual basis so as to suppliment the collective is something very real and very powerful a shining light doesn't have to bully or abuse one to draw them close , it just has to shine in the dark because you don't fight the dark with dark -fools game but with light -much tidier self made , untainted light- the stuff of above which is seeded in us and finding it's way home that way it isn't a fight at all- it's a passive switching on- so no karmic kickback for doing things grubby old style - hurrah but you are right - all the knowledge in the world isn't worth buggery and won't change anything if it isn't applied True enough. I understand and appreciate what you are saying, but many have come to this realization without such symbology or things that are so esoteric and cryptic. Do we really need to build pyramids and temples in line with the constellation of Orion's Belt to understand what you just described, AC? Do we really need some crazy dude posing with his elbows like that? Do we really need the "secret handshake? The very fact that the information is cryptic and not public domain shows that it is not benevolent in nature but only caters to a select few, which is opposite of the sense of "connection" and selflessness that you purport it to represent. If it were a light of love, it would spread like a plant flowers and blooms, not hiding in the dark with symbols, afraid of being recognized. If all this is to teach one to be a better person and work with the more positive light within us and not go down the dark path, then why is it not simply stating that? Why is it left up to interpretation? It is because it is not clear, and that is the one thing that everybody can agree upon. So I have to say that I don't agree with you when you claim that that is what it is about. Pyramids, masons, constellations, checkerboards, serpents representing the infinite? Seems to me that there is more to this than meets the eye, and is all embedded in different schools of thought from ancient times. But, again, I pose the question, how can this knowledge be truly used, other than being as meaningful as a stop sign or a green light on a road? They have more meaning and actually do affect the world around them. Much more so than the words "as above so below". It is nothing more than shorthand for a ying/yang symbol. I get the whole checkerboard floor of the masons representing "base consciousness" and how that is the animal mind, the base frequency, the easily controlled simpleton, and the masses at large. I get the idea of raising consciousness, the pillars of Jachin and Boaz, and the rites to ascend to illumination. But once you understand this, it is just insight, not super powers. And, by rights, everyone should have this insight, not a few old white dudes in lodges. Then, that raises the question, if there aren't any super powers to be derived from such knowledge, then how exactly is it "used for evil"? I'm challenging you guys here, come on, hit me with something more. "Enlighten me" here... Am I going to levitate if I put a pyramid symbol on the bottom of my shoes? No. Can I read your thoughts using my pineal gland? C'mon guys, but this is a lot of symbols that people want to remain cryptic so they can go "oooo, look at me and how secretive I am!", and "I must know something special that nobody else does and I'm not going to let you forget that!" Pure egoic garbage, and the antithesis of love, community, growth, and unity. Until you can shed any "light" on this, I'm going to have to say this is a modern BS interpretation of something nobody here truly understands the meaning of, much less the "super powers" behind it, if any even exist. I'm looking for some evidence here... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States02/09/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you digg to deep into what "they" are and do , "they" will give you a warning ! Turn back or else ! Quoting: antwan YUPs they will :) [link to imageshack.us] [link to imageshack.us] But keep on digging ! the key to open everything is inside you. It's vital to enter the rabbit hole rather than to ignore it. As you get deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, more and more disturbing answers to the questions you seek will be found. Look behind the veil of construction and you will learn about the world at the center of our Time. "As Above, So Below" I never wanted to believe, I always wanted to know :) Antwan, that is a beautiful response, the above bold. It does take courage, and it does take perseverance. If it is told, it will never be known. If it is given, it will never be understood. The difference between belief, knowledge and wisdom, is beyond belief and experiencing knowledge. - SikScent |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/09/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone kindly upgraded my account, so as I said, breakdown time.  To start, we are dealing with Olympian Elohiym. On the far left Hephaestus can be seen with his forge, while his wife Aphrodite is seen at center with Ares. The bed symbolizing love, lust, or desire as Ares stares at Aphrodite. Eros seen near Hephaestus, appears to be blowing a horn. Orpheus pictured playing a composition for the muses, which are normally associated with springs or fountains (seen far right and left). Hermes with his caduceus staff and pegasus along side. It all seems to be a celebration moreover for Ares and Aphrodite union. Eros (Aphrodite's son) mocking Aphrodite's husband while he slaves away in his cave forging, as Ares steals his wife away. The muses on each end seem to have their hands conjoined indicating either sexual relations or union. Fun image! Some additions... On Ares' side of the bush (behind Ares and Aphrodite) there are many fruits, while on her side there is but one. You can see this better in the link BTW. What this is saying is that the 'Seed' (fruit) comes from the man's side. It is representative of DNA. This is further emphasized by the Phallus Ares is holding (rod). Further still... if you look at the top portion of the rod, you see two fruits that look like testicles. Lol. The 'throne' is Red/White/Blue or Red/White/Black... basic Alchemy symbology. Of course The United States is Red/White/Blue because this is the Prophesied Nation with the Masonic 'Pre-Destiny' of birthing "The One". Gold is a nice touch. I don't know if that cherub (eros) represents the 'Man Child' or not. Puer aeternus "Puer aeternus is Latin for eternal boy, used in mythology to designate a child-god who is forever young; psychologically it is an older man whose emotional life has remained at an adolescent level. " [link to en.wikipedia.org] Finally, we see that the Royal Couple is in fact standing on a 'Royal Arch'... and they are the 'Capstone'... maybe Cancer? If you compare the Masonic symbolism to the painting, you see that Capricorn (the casket) is shown in the painting as a 'Pit' or 'Crack' in the Earth at the bottom. It looks like there is water there, so yes... this is the 'Beast Rising Out of the Sea' (Capricorn).  Anyone who is really good at Astrology could probably link all of the muses etc to their respective signs. This painting reminds me of the 'Sun and Moon Union' image of the KJV Bible...   Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 02/09/2013 11:01 PM |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh boy, did anybody come up with anything other than more symbolism? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 ??? OPie can you summarize what it means please? . There is no quick explanation. Only through study and discernment will anything be learned. It takes time and devotion to unravel what has been passed down for thousands of years. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone kindly upgraded my account, so as I said, breakdown time. To start, we are dealing with Olympian Elohiym. On the far left Hephaestus can be seen with his forge, while his wife Aphrodite is seen at center with Ares. The bed symbolizing love, lust, or desire as Ares stares at Aphrodite. Eros seen near Hephaestus, appears to be blowing a horn. Orpheus pictured playing a composition for the muses, which are normally associated with springs or fountains (seen far right and left). Hermes with his caduceus staff and pegasus along side. It all seems to be a celebration moreover for Ares and Aphrodite union. Eros (Aphrodite's son) mocking Aphrodite's husband while he slaves away in his cave forging, as Ares steals his wife away. The muses on each end seem to have their hands conjoined indicating either sexual relations or union. Fun image! Some additions... On Ares' side of the bush (behind Ares and Aphrodite) there are many fruits, while on her side there is but one. You can see this better in the link BTW. What this is saying is that the 'Seed' (fruit) comes from the man's side. It is representative of DNA. This is further emphasized by the Phallus Ares is holding (rod). Further still... if you look at the top portion of the rod, you see two fruits that look like testicles. Lol. The 'throne' is Red/White/Blue or Red/White/Black... basic Alchemy symbology. Of course The United States is Red/White/Blue because this is the Prophesied Nation with the Masonic 'Pre-Destiny' of birthing "The One". Gold is a nice touch. I don't know if that cherub (eros) represents the 'Man Child' or not. Puer aeternus "Puer aeternus is Latin for eternal boy, used in mythology to designate a child-god who is forever young; psychologically it is an older man whose emotional life has remained at an adolescent level. " [link to en.wikipedia.org] Finally, we see that the Royal Couple is in fact standing on a 'Royal Arch'... and they are the 'Capstone'... maybe Cancer? If you compare the Masonic symbolism to the painting, you see that Capricorn (the casket) is shown in the painting as a 'Pit' or 'Crack' in the Earth at the bottom. It looks like there is water there, so yes... this is the 'Beast Rising Out of the Sea' (Capricorn). Anyone who is really good at Astrology could probably link all of the muses etc to their respective signs. This painting reminds me of the 'Sun and Moon Union' image of the KJV Bible... Absolutely correct. There is probably even more in the picture that still hasn't been pointed out. I only pointed out what was obvious, so good eyes there Mikey. I was wondering about the cracked earth and the water, but didn't ring any bells. In the foreground you also see a broken wooden bat and something else at the bottom left, what looks like a toad bottom right. Then in the background upper left, some kind of construct, and what looks like a castle in the hills. Unfortunately, I am unsure of what those represent. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24893806 you mention that the 'elite' use alchemy, astrology, etc. one thing that stands out is the extant fact that there is NO evidence that any known 'elite' has ever used alchemy to rejuvenate the body. They ALL get old, sick, and die. this alone shows that if there are any of the 'elite' that have any true knowledge...they are NEVER known to the world. this, then proves that those like skull and bones members, elite families aka rothchilds, rockefellers, etc..THEY SIMPLY PLAY LIKE THEY KNOW...but in truth...they know nothing but what the masses know...how to desire, please themselves like animals...and then get sick and DIE. i have been a student of alchemy for about 20 yrs. I am just now gaining the glimmerings of true understanding of what it is about. everyone talks the talk...but i've not met one that can walk the walk. Crowley talked ...but gained NOTHING. All the neat pictures and writings of pseudo adepts MEAN NOTHING if you don't understand the simplicity of the symbols. any that do come to an understanding...A WORKING UNDERSTANDING... only reach that point because the true power at be aka 'what is' fosters it and allows it.. .. i do appreciate the work you've done on this thread.....it brings hope to those searching and provides entertainment to the masses. to any students, if you don't know how to rejuvenate your body, (change your body from a 40 yr old to a 25 yr old body)...cure all cancer, all disease 100% of the time...know what can't be known, see what can't be seen... then...you are not yet there. i have not reached that place either, but i do know where i am....and without the self-deception of thinking you know something that you don't you can travel the path much more quickly. SELF DECEPTION AND VANITY ARE THE GREATEST OF IMPEDIMENTS. Most of them are puppets. You are correct. Those that know the rituals of immanence would be the puppet's masters, manipulating them in the background. It's not so much the physical shell, but the inhabitants that move body to body. Maybe some of those alchemical masters achieved transcendence, but into what I don't know. The main alchemy though that I'm referring to would be the alchemical equations and the end result they wish to achieve like the phoenix (immortality). More of a focus on spirtual alchemy. [link to www.freemasons-freemasonry.com] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973  Netherlands02/09/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh boy, did anybody come up with anything other than more symbolism? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 ??? OPie can you summarize what it means please? . There is no quick explanation. Only through study and discernment will anything be learned. It takes time and devotion to unravel what has been passed down for thousands of years. The Picture to me represents the founding of a new idea or Nation. The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 945308 New Zealand02/09/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh boy, did anybody come up with anything other than more symbolism? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 ??? OPie can you summarize what it means please? . There is no quick explanation. Only through study and discernment will anything be learned. It takes time and devotion to unravel what has been passed down for thousands of years. So that's a big NO then. This is just a thread with a collection of pictures and no substance what-so-ever ... typical. THREAD FAIL: . |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/09/2013 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may represent a 'Club'. If you look at my Bible image, you see the man with the Club on the Moon side. He looks evil. I have traced him to "James the Lesser". His symbolic object is a Club... "In Christian art he is depicted holding a fuller's club" [link to en.wikipedia.org] Some say he is the brother of Jesus. BTW... I am reminded of a verse... Isaiah 34:16 "Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them."  The term 'None shall want her mate' means "No cheating on your spouse"... which unfortunately seems to be the case here (cheating). This image is therefore in direct violation of God's laws. The esoteric meaning is this... The 'Book of the LORD' is DNA/Seed. The term 'None shall want her mate' means that A.C.G.T. is always per the way God intended (see 'DNA pair bonding') as opposed to GMO. Thus, the painting represents a forbidden Genetically Engineered creature of some sort or bloodline changes. Think of this as Princess gets morning sickness and goes to the hospital only to have her 'Egg' switched out for a bio-engineered one. The 'Throne' has been overthrown by stealth...    Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 02/09/2013 11:44 PM |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh boy, did anybody come up with anything other than more symbolism? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 ??? OPie can you summarize what it means please? . There is no quick explanation. Only through study and discernment will anything be learned. It takes time and devotion to unravel what has been passed down for thousands of years. So that's a big NO then. This is just a thread with a collection of pictures and no substance what-so-ever ... typical. THREAD FAIL: . I suppose you could put it all in one meaningless sentence. I don't agree with the easy way out. You wan to learn, then go study. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it meaningless. This thread is a summary on a small portion of symbols used by secret societies to assist with the basic comprehension of what they represent. What that means is if you want to take one of the sub-sections in the thread and spend more time researching that specific topic, then you have a basic idea and starting point. If I went in-depth on every single picture and defining every topic, this thread would be massive. Last Edited by Xerces on 02/09/2013 11:48 PM "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/09/2013 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also... the women holding hands is an obvious reference to "Base Pair Bonding" IMHO. "base pairs (guanine-cytosine and adenine-thymine) allow the DNA helix to maintain a regular helical structure" [link to en.wikipedia.org]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 945308 New Zealand02/09/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I supposed you could put it all in one meaningless sentence. I don't agree with the easy way out. You wan to learn, then go study. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it meaningless. Quoting: Xerces This thread is a summary on a small portion of symbols used by secret societies to assist with the basic comprehension of what they represent. What that means is if you want to take one of the sub-sections in the thread and spend more time researching that specific topic, then you have a basic idea and starting point. If I went in-depth on every single picture and defining every topic, this thread would be massive. When will you people wake up to the fact that all these symbols mean the exact same thing as a basic symbol like this [link to 4.bp.blogspot.com] Almost all the symbols or images used by the elite, say the same thing, or a version of the same thing. ie all these things ... Sword in Stone, Grail, Pyramid and the Eye and your Above and Below. All the same thing. . |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/09/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may represent a 'Club'. If you look at my Bible image, you see the man with the Club on the Moon side. He looks evil. I have traced him to "James the Lesser". His symbolic object is a Club... "In Christian art he is depicted holding a fuller's club" [link to en.wikipedia.org] Some say he is the brother of Jesus. BTW... I am reminded of a verse... Isaiah 34:16 "Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them." The term 'None shall want her mate' means "No cheating on your spouse"... which unfortunately seems to be the case here (cheating). This image is therefore in direct violation of God's laws. The esoteric meaning is this... The 'Book of the LORD' is DNA/Seed. The term 'None shall want her mate' means that A.C.G.T. is always per the way God intended (see 'DNA pair bonding') as opposed to GMO. Thus, the painting represents a forbidden Genetically Engineered creature of some sort or bloodline changes. Think of this as Princess gets morning sickness and goes to the hospital only to have her 'Egg' switched out for a bio-engineered one. The 'Throne' has been overthrown by stealth... Right, the picture clearly indicates adultery. I have been really out of the loop the past 6 months, so I'm still brushing off that rust. I'll have read up on the princess portion. I didn't even know she was pregnant.  Was pondering on the red > white > gold. Of course it all ties back to lead to gold. Succession of events in the alchemical process and usual esoteric correspondences Planet/Metal/Color alch1 Saturn Lead Black alch2 Jupiter Tin Blue alch3 Moon Silver White alch4 Mercury Mercury Violet alch5 Mars Iron Red alch6 Venus Copper Green alch7 Sun Gold Golden [link to www.occult-advances.org] Last Edited by Xerces on 02/10/2013 12:01 AM "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/10/2013 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was pondering on the red > white > gold. Of course it all ties back to lead to gold. Quoting: Xerces Succession of events in the alchemical process and usual esoteric correspondences Planet/Metal/Color alch1 Saturn Lead Black alch2 Jupiter Tin Blue alch3 Moon Silver White alch4 Mercury Mercury Violet alch5 Mars Iron Red alch6 Venus Copper Green alch7 Sun Gold Golden [link to www.occult-advances.org]  Notice she has a golden scarf? It reminds me of the Gold Fringe on the Red/White/Blue flag. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/10/2013 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that there is sometimes an 'Eagle' on top of the US flag... On September 19, 2002, the ARES Eagle (a 50% scale prototype) was released from a high-altitude research balloon, proving the ARES concept for deployment and flight in Mars-like conditions. [link to marsairplane.larc.nasa.gov] I think our flag means Union alright...   Another connection... Operation Eagle Ares [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 02/10/2013 12:19 AM |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/10/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard all this before, and I ask again, what does it matter? It doesn't mean anything unless you can use this knowledge in some meaningful way, no? Quoting: TheDude99 it matters because the way to a better world is to understand that every thought word and action has resonance , power and consequence that your own thoughts words and actions can harm or heal-yourself and others - your choice (your responsibility) and that harm or heal is non local - as it were - we all feel it and it has influence whether we are aware of that or not it matters to know that none of us know everything we all need each other -we are a collective it matters to become self aware enough to put that knowledge into practice as often as possible in as many situations as possible and not to beat yourself up for falling short- you're human but dust yourself down and try again -again ,very human it matters because generating a better light on an individual basis so as to suppliment the collective is something very real and very powerful a shining light doesn't have to bully or abuse one to draw them close , it just has to shine in the dark because you don't fight the dark with dark -fools game but with light -much tidier self made , untainted light- the stuff of above which is seeded in us and finding it's way home that way it isn't a fight at all- it's a passive switching on- so no karmic kickback for doing things grubby old style - hurrah but you are right - all the knowledge in the world isn't worth buggery and won't change anything if it isn't applied True enough. I understand and appreciate what you are saying, but many have come to this realization without such symbology or things that are so esoteric and cryptic. Do we really need to build pyramids and temples in line with the constellation of Orion's Belt to understand what you just described, AC? Do we really need some crazy dude posing with his elbows like that? Do we really need the "secret handshake? The very fact that the information is cryptic and not public domain shows that it is not benevolent in nature but only caters to a select few, which is opposite of the sense of "connection" and selflessness that you purport it to represent. If it were a light of love, it would spread like a plant flowers and blooms, not hiding in the dark with symbols, afraid of being recognized. If all this is to teach one to be a better person and work with the more positive light within us and not go down the dark path, then why is it not simply stating that? Why is it left up to interpretation? It is because it is not clear, and that is the one thing that everybody can agree upon. So I have to say that I don't agree with you when you claim that that is what it is about. Pyramids, masons, constellations, checkerboards, serpents representing the infinite? Seems to me that there is more to this than meets the eye, and is all embedded in different schools of thought from ancient times. But, again, I pose the question, how can this knowledge be truly used, other than being as meaningful as a stop sign or a green light on a road? They have more meaning and actually do affect the world around them. Much more so than the words "as above so below". It is nothing more than shorthand for a ying/yang symbol. I get the whole checkerboard floor of the masons representing "base consciousness" and how that is the animal mind, the base frequency, the easily controlled simpleton, and the masses at large. I get the idea of raising consciousness, the pillars of Jachin and Boaz, and the rites to ascend to illumination. But once you understand this, it is just insight, not super powers. And, by rights, everyone should have this insight, not a few old white dudes in lodges. Then, that raises the question, if there aren't any super powers to be derived from such knowledge, then how exactly is it "used for evil"? I'm challenging you guys here, come on, hit me with something more. "Enlighten me" here... Am I going to levitate if I put a pyramid symbol on the bottom of my shoes? No. Can I read your thoughts using my pineal gland? C'mon guys, but this is a lot of symbols that people want to remain cryptic so they can go "oooo, look at me and how secretive I am!", and "I must know something special that nobody else does and I'm not going to let you forget that!" Pure egoic garbage, and the antithesis of love, community, growth, and unity. Until you can shed any "light" on this, I'm going to have to say this is a modern BS interpretation of something nobody here truly understands the meaning of, much less the "super powers" behind it, if any even exist. I'm looking for some evidence here... I'm not in a secret society. I only attempt to understand and interpret what I research. Since I am not "them", I can only assume that it's equivalent of the whole I know a secret and you don't what it is, haha. The whole concept is about deception. It's what the fool is all about. It's all one big game, over control and power. The United States should be evidence in itself. Look at the conditioned, brainwashed people living in this nation. I'm sure there are some form of "super powers" associated with all of the ancient rites and rituals, but it isn't from the human alone. The rituals are to summon certain spirits that aide in their plans, let alone who runs the show. Are you going to levitate by putting that pyramid on your shoe, probably not. If you and a group of friends decide to play with "magick" and summon outer influences, you just might. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/10/2013 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that there is sometimes an 'Eagle' on top of the US flag... Quoting: Uncle Mikey On September 19, 2002, the ARES Eagle (a 50% scale prototype) was released from a high-altitude research balloon, proving the ARES concept for deployment and flight in Mars-like conditions. [link to marsairplane.larc.nasa.gov] I think our flag means Union alright... Another connection... Operation Eagle Ares [link to en.wikipedia.org] Interesting. Let us mount the eagle on the flag pole. But wait, we can't forget about our eagle equivalent friend: [link to en.wikipedia.org] "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/10/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spot on about the Eagle/Phoenix. Ok... I'm really going off the deep end here. Frog = Beast rising out of sea = Jabulon... Jahbulon (or Jabulon) is a word which was used historically in some rituals of Royal Arch Masonry. According to Francis X. King, it is also used in Ordo Templi Orientis rituals. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This thing... [link to en.wikipedia.org] Look at the upper left. Are those broken columns?  |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/10/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read my earlier post. This thread is a lot of pictures and theory, but no truth. Prove me wrong. Quoting: TheDude99 Oh, and here's your truth you wanted. Alice Ann Bailey - June 16, 1880 – December 15, 1949 THE TEN STRATEGIES OF THE PLAN – Alice Bailey, New Age Guru. 1. Push God out of the schools. If the people grow up without reference to God, then they will consider God irrelevant to day to day life. In the last fifty years this has happened. God is irrelevant to most people. 2. Break the Traditional Judaeo-Christian Family Concept. Break communication between parents and children so that parents can’t pass on spiritual values to their children. Do this by pushing excessive child rights. 3. Remove restrictions on sex. Sex is the biggest joy and Christianity robs people of this. People must be freed to enjoy it without restrictions. It’s not just for married, it’s for everybody. 4. Since sex is the greatest expression of man’s enjoyment of life, man must be free to express sex in ALL its forms. Homosexuality, orgies, even bestiality are desirable so long as no one is being abused or harmed. 5. People must be free to abort unwanted children. If a man can have sex and then live without the consequences then the same should be true for a woman too. A woman must have the right to abort an unwanted child. 6. Every person develops soul bonds, so when a soul bond wears out a person must be free to divorce. When one starts to grow, one must be free to get together with that person even if they are married . . . 7. Defuse religious radicalism. Christianity says JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY. Defuse this by a) silencing Christianity and b) promoting other faiths (the creation of interfaith harmony) 8. Use the Media to Influence Mass Opinion. Create mass opinion that is receptive to these values by using TV, film, the press etc. (NB what western believers call normal in the African church would be pornography). 9. Debase art in all its forms. Corrupt music, painting, poetry and every expression of the heart and make is obscene, immoral and occultic. Debase the arts in every way possible. 10.Get the church to endorse every one of these nine strategies. Get the church to accept these principles and to say they’re OK (then legal ground is given for these values to get a foothold). [link to emancipationfromslavery.com] Any of that sound like what's going on right now? "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
| Uncle Mikey User ID: 2217240 United States02/10/2013 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I just had to re-pin this thread. It's back on top again. Lol.  Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 02/10/2013 12:32 AM |
| Xerces (OP) User ID: 33518993 United States02/10/2013 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL You've done it again...you know who got me into the esoterics don't you? "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
