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Charles Darwin was a Redneck Racist Nut

 
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“Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate the savage races throughout the world ... The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” - Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
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“Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate the savage races throughout the world ... The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” - Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
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Hey you gotta understand the times. Here he was sailing along on her majesty's ship, probably looking incredibly hot and sexy like Russell Crowe in a ruffled white shirt and tight pants. But not doing anything about it but rather noting the fascinating species of animals in between writing lyrical poetry to his betrothed back in merry old.

So they pull into some African port and see a crowd of sweaty people in loin clothes leaping about, fornicating with each other and speaking gibberish. What was he to conclude?
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:bubbaredneck:
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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Charles Darwin on the fate of native peoples:

"When civilised nations come into contact with barbarians the struggle is short, except where a deadly climate gives its aid to the native race. Of the causes which lead to the victory of civilised nations, some are plain, some are very obscure. We can see that the cultivation of the land will be fatal in many ways to savages, for they cannot or will not, change their habits." The Descent of Man

Darwin quoting his friend W.R. Greg, with approval, on the Irish people:

"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits."
The Descent of Man

Darwin on the extermination of native peoples in Argentina:

"If this warfare is successful, that is if all the Indians are butchered, a grand extent of country will be available for the production of cattle, and the valleys will be most productive of corn." Beagle Diary

Darwin on the inevitability of genocide:

"Do the races of or species of men, whichever term may be applied, encroach on and replace each other, so that some finally become extinct? We shall see that all these questions, as is indeed obvious with most of them,must be answered in the affirmative,in the same manner as with the lower animals." The Descent of Man

Darwin on the same subject:

"When two races of men meet, they act precisely like two species of animals - they fight, eat each other, bring diseases to each other, but then comes the most deadly struggle, namely which have the best fitted organisation, or instincts (i.e. intellect in man) to gain the day."
Notebook 1838


Darwin on the ability of colonial success to wipe out small matters like the genocide of the native Australians from consideration:

"Australia is rising...into a grand centre of civilisation........It is impossible for an Englishman to behold these distant colonies, without a high pride and satisfaction. To hoist the British flag, seems to draw with it a certain consequence, weath, prosperity, and civilisation." Journal of Researches

Darwin on natural selection:

"Wherever the European has trod, death seems to pursue the aboriginal..........The varieties of man seem to act on each other in the same way as different species of animals - the stronger always extirpating the weaker." Journal of Researches
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angry man bitterness can do that to you
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the irony is that whitey is now disappearing and the darky is now multiplying. Darwin would have to conclude that the superior race is winning.
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of course he was a fucking redneck hick. he even married his cousin
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“Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate the savage races throughout the world ... The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” - Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
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Hello mr. Fail...

How about you actually read the ******* book instead of claiming it contains stuff it does not?

But even if Darwin was a total asshole it would not change anything about the validity of the theory of evolution and even if the theory of evolution is complete bullshit it would not provide ANY evidence whatsoever for whatever religious notions you happen to believe in.

Now if your standpoint is that you actually want to prove whatever you believe I would suggest actually finding physical evidence for it in accordance with the scientific method.

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With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an (overwhelming present evil?). Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected, by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage.
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“Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate the savage races throughout the world ... The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” - Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
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Hello mr. Fail...

How about you actually read the ******* book instead of claiming it contains stuff it does not?

But even if Darwin was a total asshole it would not change anything about the validity of the theory of evolution and even if the theory of evolution is complete bullshit it would not provide ANY evidence whatsoever for whatever religious notions you happen to believe in.

Now if your standpoint is that you actually want to prove whatever you believe I would suggest actually finding physical evidence for it in accordance with the scientific method.

[link to en.wikiquote.org]

There is no need to insult me, I wasn't talking about the validity of Evolution.

I was referring to Charles Darwin being a racist, of which he most certainly was.


With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an (overwhelming present evil?). Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected, by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage.

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I'm surprised nobody has called him a republican from alabama yet. Thats usually the only direction these conversations go
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Origin of the Species is full of British Empire supremacy baloney. I don't know how anyone can actually defend that book for anything other than the racist tripe it is.
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There is no need to insult me, I wasn't talking about the validity of Evolution.

I was referring to Charles Darwin being a racist, of which he most certainly was.
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What's your point exactly? I don't get my morals from what some dude did or did not do 200 years ago even if he introduced a rather neat scientific theory... Darwin isn't some kind of Holy dude which was faultless and must thus be revered. Most of your founding fathers were slavers or people supporting slavery. Does that make their accomplishments any less?

But even that doesn't change that what you posted does not even reflect Darwins position. Hence it really is complete garbage.

It's like me quoting your post like this;


There is need to insult me, I was talking about the validity of Evolution.

I refer to Charles Darwin being a racist, of which he most certainly was.


It's just silly and dishonest.
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There is no need to insult me, I wasn't talking about the validity of Evolution.

I was referring to Charles Darwin being a racist, of which he most certainly was.
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What's your point exactly? I don't get my morals from what some dude did or did not do 200 years ago even if he introduced a rather neat scientific theory... Darwin isn't some kind of Holy dude which was faultless and must thus be revered. Most of your founding fathers were slavers or people supporting slavery. Does that make their accomplishments any less?

But even that doesn't change that what you posted does not even reflect Darwins position. Hence it really is complete garbage.

It's like me quoting your post like this;


There is need to insult me, I was talking about the validity of Evolution.

I refer to Charles Darwin being a racist, of which he most certainly was.


It's just silly and dishonest.
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clappa
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No modern Evolutionist uses Darwin's discredited theories on the Supremacy of the British race.

No sacred cows. Evolutionary theory stands on scientific experimentation.

Darwins theories on the British race have been falsified. Science has moved on from this 19th century horseshit.
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I'm sure we can agree on this.
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I don't get my morals from what some dude did or did not do 200 years ago even if he introduced a rather neat scientific theory... Darwin isn't some kind of Holy dude which was faultless and must thus be revered. Most of your founding fathers were slavers or people supporting slavery. Does that make their accomplishments any less?

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Meh just realized your NZ not American, looking at flags is apparently isn't my strong point. Still the argument holds though...
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I don't get my morals from what some dude did or did not do 200 years ago even if he introduced a rather neat scientific theory... Darwin isn't some kind of Holy dude which was faultless and must thus be revered. Most of your founding fathers were slavers or people supporting slavery. Does that make their accomplishments any less?

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Meh just realized your NZ not American, looking at flags is apparently isn't my strong point. Still the argument holds though...
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Britain outlawed slavery before the publication of the origin of the species.
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No modern Evolutionist uses Darwin's discredited theories on the Supremacy of the British race.

No sacred cows. Evolutionary theory stands on scientific experimentation.

Darwins theories on the British race have been falsified. Science has moved on from this 19th century horseshit.
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Correct the ideas that people had in the 1800's regarding races within the human species have been proven largely incorrect in part thanks to the theory of evolution.

That does not however invalidate the theory of evolution, we have common ancestors with monkeys (and thus are monkeys just as snakes still are lizards) get used to it.
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No modern Evolutionist uses Darwin's discredited theories on the Supremacy of the British race.

No sacred cows. Evolutionary theory stands on scientific experimentation.

Darwins theories on the British race have been falsified. Science has moved on from this 19th century horseshit.
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Correct the ideas that people had in the 1800's regarding races within the human species have been proven largely incorrect in part thanks to the theory of evolution.

That does not however invalidate the theory of evolution, we have common ancestors with monkeys (and thus are monkeys just as snakes still are lizards) get used to it.
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Just was we can't distance ourselves from Darwin being a racist.
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Chuck certainly was not a redneck or a nut.

He was a Victorian gentleman.
And as such a racist and a cultural supremacist, but prolly less so than average.
You should read his diaries.

In this day and age a man of his intellect and open-mindedness would most likely not be a bigot.

Just was we can't distance ourselves from Darwin being a racist.
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Of course we can: Bad Chuck! Bad almost everybody in the 19th century!
They are all dead, you know. No reason any more to get upset over it.

The reason for Darwin being a cultural hero is his scientific work, much like Newton who was a truly despicable human being.
Their character flaws are irrelevant to their work.
In science it doesn't matter who you are, or what your name is.
The work has to stand on its own.
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It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


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“Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate the savage races throughout the world ... The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” - Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man
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Evolution is based on the success of the species and how they evolve and adapt....or not and perish.

One COULD make a legit argument that the black man is less successful than the white man when you look at intelligence and adapting.
An Anthropologist wrote a legitimate paper about this somewhere about the late 80's early 90's....but his work was buried and he was ostracized simply for describing the science and evolutionary process that has left black populations overall less evolved that white populations.

Again....one can STILL make the argument.

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Interesting that Darwin's racist polemics are still used by White Supremacists even today much like Hitler's Mein Kampf.
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Interesting that Darwin's racist polemics are still used by White Supremacists even today much like Hitler's Mein Kampf.
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Of course....easy for idiots like you to cry racist for everything and anything...scientific or not.

It's really getting old....get some new material....you grow tiresome to intelligent people.

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