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How to beat paying a payday loan legally.

 
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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
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I can't find anything on that topic.. please advise.. what search terms..
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I don't think this will stand up in a court of law...and if you did it and were brought before a judge, you might just be facing fraud charges
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no side stepping.

if i could afford to lend someone $50, i would give the money. I wouldn't have an expectation of return of the $50 from that individual.

if they did choose to return the money, that would be fine too. in my experience, they don't choose to return the money. I never worried about it.

it's only money. people are flesh and blood.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


So all business loans, banking loans and car loans...etc etc are "optional payback" items in your rule book.

putin


Where the f*ck did you go to school?...really man...I want to know who put this shit in your head?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Because the education system in this country clearly teaches people reality...
 Quoting: letsgetnihilistic


I truly cannot believe imbeciles like this are what is coming out of the public MISeducation system


No wonder the TAKERS have surpassed the MAKERS.
He has no clue that TRUST is what holds a society together. When NO ONE trusts anyone else to do as they say they will or are obligated to....the entire fabric of the society falls apart.

Amazing lack of education. WOW!

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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
 Quoting: acuk 29136709


I can't find anything on that topic.. please advise.. what search terms..
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Oh hey same here!
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no side stepping.

if i could afford to lend someone $50, i would give the money. I wouldn't have an expectation of return of the $50 from that individual.

if they did choose to return the money, that would be fine too. in my experience, they don't choose to return the money. I never worried about it.

it's only money. people are flesh and blood.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


So all business loans, banking loans and car loans...etc etc are "optional payback" items in your rule book.

putin


Where the f*ck did you go to school?...really man...I want to know who put this shit in your head?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Because the education system in this country clearly teaches people reality...
 Quoting: letsgetnihilistic


I truly cannot believe imbeciles like this are what is coming out of the public MISeducation system


No wonder the TAKERS have surpassed the MAKERS.
He has no clue that TRUST is what holds a society together. When NO ONE trusts anyone else to do as they say they will or are obligated to....the entire fabric of the society falls apart.

Amazing lack of education. WOW!

another do
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My college professors believe the official story of 9/11. It's hard for me to take anything they say seriously.
"It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin

"Freedom, baby...is never having to say you're sorry."-The Devil's Advocate

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell

"If I shall exist eternally, how shall I exist tomorrow?"-Franz Kafka
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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
 Quoting: acuk 29136709


I can't find anything on that topic.. please advise.. what search terms..
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


Oh hey same here!
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This is bullshit.
You won't find anything on it because MADE UP.

CONTRACT LAW 101 failsmile


GOD PEOPLE GET AN EDUCATION...HOLY F*CK! gaah
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Re: How to beat paying a payday loan legally.
no side stepping.

if i could afford to lend someone $50, i would give the money. I wouldn't have an expectation of return of the $50 from that individual.

if they did choose to return the money, that would be fine too. in my experience, they don't choose to return the money. I never worried about it.

it's only money. people are flesh and blood.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


So all business loans, banking loans and car loans...etc etc are "optional payback" items in your rule book.

putin


Where the f*ck did you go to school?...really man...I want to know who put this shit in your head?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Because the education system in this country clearly teaches people reality...
 Quoting: letsgetnihilistic


I truly cannot believe imbeciles like this are what is coming out of the public MISeducation system


No wonder the TAKERS have surpassed the MAKERS.
He has no clue that TRUST is what holds a society together. When NO ONE trusts anyone else to do as they say they will or are obligated to....the entire fabric of the society falls apart.

Amazing lack of education. WOW!

another do
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makers...hahahahahahaha
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no side stepping.

if i could afford to lend someone $50, i would give the money. I wouldn't have an expectation of return of the $50 from that individual.

if they did choose to return the money, that would be fine too. in my experience, they don't choose to return the money. I never worried about it.

it's only money. people are flesh and blood.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


So all business loans, banking loans and car loans...etc etc are "optional payback" items in your rule book.

putin


Where the f*ck did you go to school?...really man...I want to know who put this shit in your head?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


In speaking with my dad recently as he is preparing his "final" documents, shall we say, he is all concerned about deeding the house over to his children in case he need an equity loan in the future to pay taxes or debts or something. My response -- who gives a rat's ass about that stuff? Charge the freaking taxes or medical bill. If the CC company is stupid enough to give a $5K "loan" to a 70-year-old guy, let them. If my dad dies before he pays it off, oh well! Maybe he'll pay it off, maybe he won't. Yes, let the buyer beware, but let the LENDER beware too! That is the message I get from Neo. Let the lender beware. If big banks can screw us taxpayers over and over, I don't care if the little guy gets to screw them back once in a while.

On a side note, I have heard, not sure if it's true, to be very careful when signing a loan with one of the American Indian creditors that promise to have money in your account the next day. Because they are on Indian reservations, they don't have to abide by U.S. laws. That means no bankruptcy or anything.
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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
 Quoting: acuk 29136709


I can't find anything on that topic.. please advise.. what search terms..
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


I don't think this will stand up in a court of law...and if you did it and were brought before a judge, you might just be facing fraud charges
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It was on another forum, that I cant link, they are saying that the cc companies are sending out new contracts but they just keep signing it in a box.

It is not fraud as someone else stated, it is manipulating the system, they do it to us all the time.
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Don't steal or make a deal with the devil...man up and earn it...
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Exactly

Some people end up putting so much time and energy into a scheme, they would have been better off spending that energy in school learning a real trade.
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Don't steal or make a deal with the devil...man up and earn it...
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Exactly

Some people end up putting so much time and energy into a scheme, they would have been better off spending that energy in school learning a real trade.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


How financially well off are you?
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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
 Quoting: acuk 29136709


Also if a contract has incomplete borders it means its not complete open ended.
and an x on the signiture line gives them legal right to do what they want with your signiture or something like that. im still learning abou it. the united states is a corperate name. and by the 14th amendment we are all share holders thats why you get a birth certificate and social security.
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box in your signiture it lifts it off the document. it makes the contract usless. but most people don't know about this. you can void you contract yet the other party will think its legit. use this knowledge wisley.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Wow never knew about that, did a quick search and it does work.

"my understanding is that when you put a word, sentence or paragraph in a box on a document, it completely seperates what is in the box from the text outside of it. basicaly using a box creates another document on the document."
 Quoting: acuk 29136709


Also if a contract has incomplete borders it means its not complete open ended.
and an x on the signiture line gives them legal right to do what they want with your signiture or something like that. im still learning abou it. the united states is a corperate name. and by the 14th amendment we are all share holders thats why you get a birth certificate and social security.
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Dude where did you learn this? Throw us a bone.
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So all business loans, banking loans and car loans...etc etc are "optional payback" items in your rule book.

putin


Where the f*ck did you go to school?...really man...I want to know who put this shit in your head?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Because the education system in this country clearly teaches people reality...
 Quoting: letsgetnihilistic


I truly cannot believe imbeciles like this are what is coming out of the public MISeducation system


No wonder the TAKERS have surpassed the MAKERS.
He has no clue that TRUST is what holds a society together. When NO ONE trusts anyone else to do as they say they will or are obligated to....the entire fabric of the society falls apart.

Amazing lack of education. WOW!

another do
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makers...hahahahahahaha
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Yeah....MAKERS...as in THOSE WHO PRODUCE.

As opposed to someone like you who is a TAKER with no morals values or ethics about stealing.

Sure, the big banks are out of control with many things....but that gives you no right to steal.
I can see already that the values and ethics of the corrupt government and the VERY corrupt Obama administration have truly destroyed your value system.

If everyone thinks as you do....only chaos and disaster will ensue.

This country is doomed.

nixonstds
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This country is doomed.

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obviously
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You are not doing anything legally.

If you have no assets, no employment, and your income is completely protected (social security, for example) - then, assuming your loan is unsecured, you cannot pay it back. So you do not.

However, if you are hiding assets or have employment income, then your unsecured loan is subject to garnishment and asset seizure.

By stating publicly on this website that you have no intention of paying a loan rather than you would like to pay the loan but do not have the ability to do so, then you are engaged in an illegal activity.
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This country is doomed.

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obviously
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Helping to bring it down will only land you one the wrong side of this if true chaos breaks out.
Good luck with that.
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GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
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GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
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GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Actually they all own businesses, and since the majority of the voting public in the USA identifies as Democrat, I would say your statement is idiotic.. lol

ps.

I worked for Q.C. financial, Quik Cash, and they do anything they can to keep their customers coming back. Even by exploiting gray areas of the law. And when I refused to do so they threatened to fire me, even though I had the best collection numbers that store had ever seen. They are dirty rotten liar out for nothing but their customers money.
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This country is doomed.

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obviously
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Helping to bring it down will only land you one the wrong side of this if true chaos breaks out.
Good luck with that.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


there are no sides.
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GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Actually they all own businesses, and since the majority of the voting public in the USA identifies as Democrat, I would say your statement is idiotic.. lol

ps.

I worked for Q.C. financial, Quik Cash, and they do anything they can to keep their customers coming back. Even by exploiting gray areas of the law. And when I refused to do so they threatened to fire me, even though I had the best collection numbers that store had ever seen. They are dirty rotten liar out for nothing but their customers money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


Since that entire highlighted sentence is a pile of steaming manure....I would say you are the idiot here.

rolleyes

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Re: How to beat paying a payday loan legally.
GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Actually they all own businesses, and since the majority of the voting public in the USA identifies as Democrat, I would say your statement is idiotic.. lol

ps.

I worked for Q.C. financial, Quik Cash, and they do anything they can to keep their customers coming back. Even by exploiting gray areas of the law. And when I refused to do so they threatened to fire me, even though I had the best collection numbers that store had ever seen. They are dirty rotten liar out for nothing but their customers money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


Since that entire highlighted sentence is a pile of steaming manure....I would say you are the idiot here.

rolleyes
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Learn how to Google.

"As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents.[3] By 2011 Gallup found that Americans identifying as independents had risen to 40 percent. Gallup's historical data show that the proportion of independents in 2011 was the largest in 60 years. This increase came at the expense of Republican identification, which dropped to 27%, while Democratic identification held steady from 2011. "

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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GLP is a right-wing owned, operated, and heavily visited site.

I was a payday loan company store manager for 2 years, I hated it but the pay was nice.


One thing I can tel you is pretty much all bottom-feeding, low-life payday loan company owners are... Republican, right-wingers. Which means I am guessing you will not get a lot of love from ripping off payday loan stores on this site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Actually they all own businesses, and since the majority of the voting public in the USA identifies as Democrat, I would say your statement is idiotic.. lol

ps.

I worked for Q.C. financial, Quik Cash, and they do anything they can to keep their customers coming back. Even by exploiting gray areas of the law. And when I refused to do so they threatened to fire me, even though I had the best collection numbers that store had ever seen. They are dirty rotten liar out for nothing but their customers money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


Since that entire highlighted sentence is a pile of steaming manure....I would say you are the idiot here.

rolleyes
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Allow me to prove myself once more.

THE MAJORITY OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE USA ARE REGISTERED DEMOCRATS!!!!!

Check out this political survey taken by the National Small Business Association.

[link to www.nsba.biz]
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Payday loans are for idiots.
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That's because REPUBLICANS OWN BUSINESSES....Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll.


Someone posted a BAR JOKE about this exact thing this afternoon.
Wish I could find it.....it proves the point clearly.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Actually they all own businesses, and since the majority of the voting public in the USA identifies as Democrat, I would say your statement is idiotic.. lol

ps.

I worked for Q.C. financial, Quik Cash, and they do anything they can to keep their customers coming back. Even by exploiting gray areas of the law. And when I refused to do so they threatened to fire me, even though I had the best collection numbers that store had ever seen. They are dirty rotten liar out for nothing but their customers money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


Since that entire highlighted sentence is a pile of steaming manure....I would say you are the idiot here.

rolleyes
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Allow me to prove myself once more.

THE MAJORITY OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE USA ARE REGISTERED DEMOCRATS!!!!!

Check out this political survey taken by the National Small Business Association.

[link to www.nsba.biz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454



OK, wait, I'll admit when I'm wrong and I think I might be... It looks like the majority of small business owners ARE REPUBLICAN. I WAS WRONG!!! But it is even more wrong to say "Democrats, Liberals, and Socialists all are on the government dole and payroll."

Yes I can be an idiot sometimes and that last post was pretty idiotic, sorry I have a lot going on around me at the moment and was in a hurry, etc.etc..

Regardless of my mis-info which I cannot edit do to not being signed in, I will say that poll by the NSBA is still very telling and worth a look.
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do you guys know who owns the payday loan companies?
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Google Search Payday Loans And The Illuminati

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There is a growing concern that the illuminati not only controls the monetary and banking system they may very well control and operate the payday loan market.

Interesting read indeed

[link to www.google.ca]





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