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Americans: Too stupid to Prosper

 
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Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
Our economy is the inevitable outcome of the fractional reserve system.

It ONLY gets worse. The further you go back the better it was, the more you go forward the worse it will get.

Neither president, Bush or Obama, did anything about the problem.

Neither candidate, Romney or Obama, are going to do anything about the problem.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate even discussing the actual problem.


So, I can only conclude, since Americans aren't voting for Ron Paul, that Americans want it to get worse.
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06/02/2012 12:19 PM
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This has a couple of clips about Ron Paul, but explains how our system is bankrupting us very simply.
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06/02/2012 12:23 PM
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only 50% pay taxes

the other half gobbles up all the resources
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06/02/2012 12:31 PM
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
only 50% pay taxes

the other half gobbles up all the resources
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17210835


If you use the dollar, you pay taxes, although they don't call it that.

$1.00 in 1913 = $21.60 in 2007

ALL AMERICANS ARE EFFECTED.

96% devaluation of our currency in 94 years of the Federal Reserve.
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06/02/2012 12:37 PM
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Americans keep watching TV and playing online instead of addressing any of their actual problems.

A vote, for either establishment candidate, won't make a damn.

Don't believe me? Ask them what they intend to do about the Federal Reserve, they will look at you like you are retarded because they have no plans to do anything besides line their pockets.
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06/02/2012 12:38 PM
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One star bandit strikes again, can't argue with facts, but can hit a button and move on.
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06/02/2012 12:49 PM
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
A vote for Romney or Obama, is to ignore the actual problems.
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06/02/2012 02:21 PM
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Oh, well, big surprise, Americans don't give a sh*t.
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06/02/2012 02:36 PM
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rockypaul My husband and I are voting for him even if we have to write him in. I haven't voted for the lesser of the two evils since 88 and never will again.
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
only 50% pay taxes

the other half gobbles up all the resources

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17210835


Yea, and it's going to get a lot worse in the months to come.

What happens when thers nobody working for the others to gobble up anymore?
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06/02/2012 02:42 PM
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rockypaul My husband and I are voting for him even if we have to write him in. I haven't voted for the lesser of the two evils since 88 and never will again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16344976


excellent!

I can't understand why anyone would vote for either of these losers.

I have yet to find a Romney supporter to ask why they would vote for him.
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Our economy is the inevitable outcome of the fractional reserve system.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


Not really... It's the inevitable outcome of too much money in the hands of the few instead of the many so that wealth is hoarded rather than circulated around.

There were catastrophic financial collapses in earlier centuries as well, long before there was ever a Federal Reserve bank.

Debt and credit itself actually existed, according to some economic historians BEFORE money and currency came about - that it was an outcome of the barter system.

This game has been played for a long long time, so obviously as well it isn't just Americans but People...

VERY valuable reading:

[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]

Mesopotamia was different because the state emerged unevenly and incompletely. At first there were giant bureaucratic temples, then also palace complexes, but they weren’t exactly governments and they didn’t extract direct taxes – these were considered appropriate only for conquered populations. Rather they were huge industrial complexes with their own land, flocks and factories. This is where money begins as a unit of account; it’s used for allocating resources within these complexes.

Interest-bearing loans, in turn, probably originated in deals between the administrators and merchants who carried, say, the woollen goods produced in temple factories (which in the very earliest period were at least partly charitable enterprises, homes for orphans, refugees or disabled people for instance) and traded them to faraway lands for metal, timber, or lapis lazuli. The first markets form on the fringes of these complexes and appear to operate largely on credit, using the temples’ units of account. But this gave the merchants and temple administrators and other well-off types the opportunity to make consumer loans to farmers, and then, if say the harvest was bad, everybody would start falling into debt-traps.

This was the great social evil of antiquity – families would have to start pawning off their flocks, fields and before long, their wives and children would be taken off into debt peonage. Often people would start abandoning the cities entirely, joining semi-nomadic bands, threatening to come back in force and overturn the existing order entirely. Rulers would regularly conclude the only way to prevent complete social breakdown was to declare a clean slate or ‘washing of the tablets,’ they’d cancel all consumer debt and just start over. In fact, the first recorded word for ‘freedom’ in any human language is the Sumerian amargi, a word for debt-freedom, and by extension freedom more generally, which literally means ‘return to mother,’ since when they declared a clean slate, all the debt peons would get to go home.
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
Our economy is the inevitable outcome of the fractional reserve system.

It ONLY gets worse. The further you go back the better it was, the more you go forward the worse it will get.

Neither president, Bush or Obama, did anything about the problem.

Neither candidate, Romney or Obama, are going to do anything about the problem.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate even discussing the actual problem.


So, I can only conclude, since Americans aren't voting for Ron Paul, that Americans want it to get worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


Based on my last thread, I have to agree with you.

People would rather be mired in social issues or other distracting issues rather than care about the economy, the out of control and ever growing government, the loss of personal freedom, wars after wars and and the literal burning of the constitution.

You can call me anything you want to. Paultard does not bother me in the least.

OP, you are righter than red.
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
A vote for Romney or Obama, is to ignore the actual problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


To think political votes by the American people, like you, is the problem. Politics are a sham, nothing more than a show to make you think your vote counts, all the while laughing at you political drones for being so goddamned gullible
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
only 50% pay taxes

the other half gobbles up all the resources
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17210835


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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
Our economy is the inevitable outcome of the fractional reserve system.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


Not really... It's the inevitable outcome of too much money in the hands of the few instead of the many so that wealth is hoarded rather than circulated around.

There were catastrophic financial collapses in earlier centuries as well, long before there was ever a Federal Reserve bank.

Debt and credit itself actually existed, according to some economic historians BEFORE money and currency came about - that it was an outcome of the barter system.

This game has been played for a long long time, so obviously as well it isn't just Americans but People...

VERY valuable reading:

[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]

Mesopotamia was different because the state emerged unevenly and incompletely. At first there were giant bureaucratic temples, then also palace complexes, but they weren’t exactly governments and they didn’t extract direct taxes – these were considered appropriate only for conquered populations. Rather they were huge industrial complexes with their own land, flocks and factories. This is where money begins as a unit of account; it’s used for allocating resources within these complexes.

Interest-bearing loans, in turn, probably originated in deals between the administrators and merchants who carried, say, the woollen goods produced in temple factories (which in the very earliest period were at least partly charitable enterprises, homes for orphans, refugees or disabled people for instance) and traded them to faraway lands for metal, timber, or lapis lazuli. The first markets form on the fringes of these complexes and appear to operate largely on credit, using the temples’ units of account. But this gave the merchants and temple administrators and other well-off types the opportunity to make consumer loans to farmers, and then, if say the harvest was bad, everybody would start falling into debt-traps.

This was the great social evil of antiquity – families would have to start pawning off their flocks, fields and before long, their wives and children would be taken off into debt peonage. Often people would start abandoning the cities entirely, joining semi-nomadic bands, threatening to come back in force and overturn the existing order entirely. Rulers would regularly conclude the only way to prevent complete social breakdown was to declare a clean slate or ‘washing of the tablets,’ they’d cancel all consumer debt and just start over. In fact, the first recorded word for ‘freedom’ in any human language is the Sumerian amargi, a word for debt-freedom, and by extension freedom more generally, which literally means ‘return to mother,’ since when they declared a clean slate, all the debt peons would get to go home.
 Quoting: Ilana




Yeah, really.

Watch the video.

How do you think that money gets in the hands of a few?

TPTB could give us all of their money and it would be back in their hands tomorrow.

We have to address the real problem.
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
A vote for Romney or Obama, is to ignore the actual problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


To think political votes by the American people, like you, is the problem. Politics are a sham, nothing more than a show to make you think your vote counts, all the while laughing at you political drones for being so goddamned gullible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17214050


A different way to say the same thing.
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Re: Americans: Too stupid to Prosper
Our economy is the inevitable outcome of the fractional reserve system.

It ONLY gets worse. The further you go back the better it was, the more you go forward the worse it will get.

Neither president, Bush or Obama, did anything about the problem.

Neither candidate, Romney or Obama, are going to do anything about the problem.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate even discussing the actual problem.


So, I can only conclude, since Americans aren't voting for Ron Paul, that Americans want it to get worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


Based on my last thread, I have to agree with you.

People would rather be mired in social issues or other distracting issues rather than care about the economy, the out of control and ever growing government, the loss of personal freedom, wars after wars and and the literal burning of the constitution.

You can call me anything you want to. Paultard does not bother me in the least.

OP, you are righter than red.
 Quoting: Parahna


Thank you.

You are correct as well.

hf
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A vote for Romney or Obama, is to ignore the actual problems.
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To think political votes by the American people, like you, is the problem. Politics are a sham, nothing more than a show to make you think your vote counts, all the while laughing at you political drones for being so goddamned gullible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17214050


A different way to say the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6342575


No, that is not what I said. Voting for ANYONE is to be a drone.

Ironic that, between my stating politics are full of shit, and another thread wherein I told religious people what fucking idiots they are for teaching each other scripture at a conspiracy site, my IP was banned. 17trillion more IP's to go.
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06/02/2012 03:14 PM
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To judge everyone as a whole is hard though, generalization is almost never accurate when referring to a class, system, or race of people.

I do agree that many Americans are lazy and don't like to think past "I like that president. He does things that I like."

Which is why there isn't 100 million users on this forum ;D
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