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The Lady you Meet on Salvia

 
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I enjoyed your description of how our subconscious/female side is the link - this is also my experience vie DMT/Aya.

I would like to ask your opinion on following:

1) The sense of utter evil that can prevail across such experiences - is this us projecting our own evil or is it an external evil?

2) The sense of utter "alienness" that can prevail across such experiences - surely more than our right hemisphere interpretation of a realm with which we are unfamiliar?

It seems to me this is more than right hemisphere interpretation of a realm that our left hemisphere cannot decipher - I understand that the way the right hemisphere processes s information may make these realms seem "alien" or "other" and yet still familiar)


I have had the full blown utterly evil/alien experience some 8 hours long with Ayahuasca.

My own "rationale" as to why these realms seems familiar, or "feel like home" is because we have experienced these realms when we sleep or inbetween lives, but never or rarely with our daily/waking conciousness - as waking consciousness would require that both left and right hemisphere are integrated.

I must say - the 8 hour journey with Aya almost unhinged me.

Also tried Salvia - but must say Aya/DMT was x1000 richer (and more utterly terrifying) and my ability to recall and bring back information afterwards much easier than with Salvia

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Great stories, very interesting experiences, here. If anyone ever runs into this green lady while on Salvia, please drop me a line.

[link to tinypic.com]

I've never taken salvia or any hallucinagens, just wondering about others' experiences with archetypes. Thanks hf
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Hi Lily! Thank you for your interest, I am the OP of this thread.... I would like to think that I am able to enchant the green lady just a little, but alas I am probably the enchanted one. Anyone else have any recent sightings? Thank you!!!

Did you draw the picture?

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Thanks for the response, and this thread! Yes, 'tis mine, from about ten years ago. She is/was what could be the consuming side of nature. I see her as benevolent at times, but more often as vindictive. The energy is being reworked, at present.
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I should think this lady would be very, very annoyed at all you drug addicts bothering her every minute!

I'm sure she has a ton of paperwork to get to, and the elves have better things to do then to watch you folks piss yourselves in their alien forest all night and day.

You are so eager to leave this dimension for that one, but have you mastered this one yet?

I doubt it.
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There is someone else. You have to call.
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The first time I did Salvia it felt like a mule kicked reality sideways no matter how I turned my head I couldn't get things back into the proper perspective. It took about half an hour for things to settle down.

Salvia smells weird to me the best way I can describe the smell is to quote Mathilda Mother by Pink Floyd "the doll's house darkness old perfume"

the second time I did it I was just hearing somebody or feeling somebody tell me how to say Salvinia Divinorum and I would say it differently and it would correct me, it was very bizarre and when I came down I looked it up and I don't know exactly what is the right way to pronounce it but that voice seemed pretty clear

I didn't meet any lady I am male
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this is what i wrote on 'another' site..so i copied and pasted it.

one day i smoked a shitload of salvia divinorum and holy..
its the sage plant, indians and others have used it for thousands of years.

ive smoked unknown amounts of bud, dropped at least 100 hits of acid, and eaten a few pounds of shrooms in my day, i dont consume any drugs these days but..just to give you an idea, im no inexperienced psychotropic voyager.

one day i read about salvia, and that you could buy concentrated forms of it in head shops etc. so i did my research for a bit, and thought, this is a drug id like to try..like pot but it only lasts a few seconds, to a few minutes, with varied results.

having not poked smot in some time, i fashined a makeshift bong out of a 20oz soda bottle a socket, aluminum foil, and a bic pen. worked good enough for me..

so i took a hit, just a little bit..i was scared at first..nothing really happened, i felt a little weird, that was about it. it didnt hurt my throat, or make me cough, it didnt even really have a taste.

so i waited about 20 minutes, and i doubled what i did before, maybe half of a gram..not quite. and smoked that, then i felt it..my weight almost doubled, i could feel gravity pulling on everything, even my throat, my eyelids, earlobes, everything.

it felt pretty cool, it felt like a not paranoid feeling shroom buzz, and it lasted a mere 20-30 seconds, no hangover feeling or residuals.

i said fuck it, i packed all that i had left, maybe 1.5 grams at this point, and i hit this little shitty bong like i had something to prove.
i smoked it all in one hit, milky yellowish smoke rolled out of my lungs..again, no itchy irritated feeling, no taste really at all either.

after a few seconds, i heard a *crack crack crack* similar to that of a lightning strike, crack crack BOOM!..anyways..i look towards the noise and there is a black sphere in my wall, like a black hole spinning violently, sucking up my wall, which at this point appears to made of wet cardboard, its sucking up my desk too in a similar fashion it folds over on itself and into the vortex.

BLACK.

silence, but im aware, and conscious.
i hear, wood on wood, and squeaking, i come to. all around me are wooden cogs, leather belts linking some together, some crazy dimly lit wooden gearhouse, with seemingly no end to it. i look around and there are two men, both wearing brown cloaks like monks or something, half covering the tops of their faces, pulling levers, pushing pedals.

oh no they see me...they're looking at each other, now looking at me like wtf are you doing here?

POOF! im back in my apartment, crawling on the floor..begging for mercy, i dont want any more, i want to stay in reality. then it feels as if i were laying in a cylinder half suspended in water, im above water, and now the cylinder is rolling over slowly, and im going under....

back in the gear house with the two men. now they are talking to me.
they tell me they run this realm of existence, they are the ones who keep everything in check, nature, karma, gravity, physics, they run it all somehow, i wasnt supposed to be there...my cylinder was rolling again, back to my apartment floor, im crawling..still begging for mercy.

WATER! go to the bathroomn drink water!..im crawling to the bathroom, my arms wont cooperate, the floor...it feels like thousands of tightly packed fish, floundering and floppuing under my hands, slimy nasty..

thats it. this is a true story of what i experienced smoking salvia divinorum
about 3-4 years ago.

never before have i hallucinated things that just flat out were not there.
i have eaten 10 hits of acid before, and not had this type of trip. always exaggerated things, like super bright colors, or rainbow effects around lights, or sounds mixing with shapes, etc.

this drug is scary, and it felt more real than reality does.

i dont recommend anyone do this drug, but if you do, get a babysitter to make sure you dont hurt yourself. i dont know if i passed out, or was flailing around, or just sitting there drooling on my self.
you need a strong mind for this drug, it is not for everyone.
it is really a religious mind expanding experience, it is not recreational.
i will never smoke that plant again.
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My brother started talking to the machine elves non-stop and hiding from them behind the couch.

I felt like I was being torn in half

Our roommate thought he was a shoe.

Salvia: weird.
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What's interesting is that you meet her evil sister on Datura. Everyone who trips off that jimson weed tells about the sinister she who stalks them. Crazy stuff.
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this is what i wrote on 'another' site..so i copied and pasted it.

one day i smoked a shitload of salvia divinorum and holy..
its the sage plant, indians and others have used it for thousands of years.

ive smoked unknown amounts of bud, dropped at least 100 hits of acid, and eaten a few pounds of shrooms in my day, i dont consume any drugs these days but..just to give you an idea, im no inexperienced psychotropic voyager.

one day i read about salvia, and that you could buy concentrated forms of it in head shops etc. so i did my research for a bit, and thought, this is a drug id like to try..like pot but it only lasts a few seconds, to a few minutes, with varied results.

having not poked smot in some time, i fashined a makeshift bong out of a 20oz soda bottle a socket, aluminum foil, and a bic pen. worked good enough for me..

so i took a hit, just a little bit..i was scared at first..nothing really happened, i felt a little weird, that was about it. it didnt hurt my throat, or make me cough, it didnt even really have a taste.

so i waited about 20 minutes, and i doubled what i did before, maybe half of a gram..not quite. and smoked that, then i felt it..my weight almost doubled, i could feel gravity pulling on everything, even my throat, my eyelids, earlobes, everything.

it felt pretty cool, it felt like a not paranoid feeling shroom buzz, and it lasted a mere 20-30 seconds, no hangover feeling or residuals.

i said fuck it, i packed all that i had left, maybe 1.5 grams at this point, and i hit this little shitty bong like i had something to prove.
i smoked it all in one hit, milky yellowish smoke rolled out of my lungs..again, no itchy irritated feeling, no taste really at all either.

after a few seconds, i heard a *crack crack crack* similar to that of a lightning strike, crack crack BOOM!..anyways..i look towards the noise and there is a black sphere in my wall, like a black hole spinning violently, sucking up my wall, which at this point appears to made of wet cardboard, its sucking up my desk too in a similar fashion it folds over on itself and into the vortex.

BLACK.

silence, but im aware, and conscious.
i hear, wood on wood, and squeaking, i come to. all around me are wooden cogs, leather belts linking some together, some crazy dimly lit wooden gearhouse, with seemingly no end to it. i look around and there are two men, both wearing brown cloaks like monks or something, half covering the tops of their faces, pulling levers, pushing pedals.

oh no they see me...they're looking at each other, now looking at me like wtf are you doing here?

POOF! im back in my apartment, crawling on the floor..begging for mercy, i dont want any more, i want to stay in reality. then it feels as if i were laying in a cylinder half suspended in water, im above water, and now the cylinder is rolling over slowly, and im going under....

back in the gear house with the two men. now they are talking to me.
they tell me they run this realm of existence, they are the ones who keep everything in check, nature, karma, gravity, physics, they run it all somehow, i wasnt supposed to be there...my cylinder was rolling again, back to my apartment floor, im crawling..still begging for mercy.

WATER! go to the bathroomn drink water!..im crawling to the bathroom, my arms wont cooperate, the floor...it feels like thousands of tightly packed fish, floundering and floppuing under my hands, slimy nasty..

thats it. this is a true story of what i experienced smoking salvia divinorum
about 3-4 years ago.

never before have i hallucinated things that just flat out were not there.
i have eaten 10 hits of acid before, and not had this type of trip. always exaggerated things, like super bright colors, or rainbow effects around lights, or sounds mixing with shapes, etc.

this drug is scary, and it felt more real than reality does.

i dont recommend anyone do this drug, but if you do, get a babysitter to make sure you dont hurt yourself. i dont know if i passed out, or was flailing around, or just sitting there drooling on my self.
you need a strong mind for this drug, it is not for everyone.
it is really a religious mind expanding experience, it is not recreational.
i will never smoke that plant again.
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Great LoP, thank you for sharing your amazing salvia experience! Interesting details about the wooden gear-house, and the monks with brown cloaks.

If you don't mind adding, are you male or female?

Thanks! hf
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this is what i wrote on 'another' site..so i copied and pasted it.

one day i smoked a shitload of salvia divinorum and holy..
its the sage plant, indians and others have used it for thousands of years.

ive smoked unknown amounts of bud, dropped at least 100 hits of acid, and eaten a few pounds of shrooms in my day, i dont consume any drugs these days but..just to give you an idea, im no inexperienced psychotropic voyager.

one day i read about salvia, and that you could buy concentrated forms of it in head shops etc. so i did my research for a bit, and thought, this is a drug id like to try..like pot but it only lasts a few seconds, to a few minutes, with varied results.

having not poked smot in some time, i fashined a makeshift bong out of a 20oz soda bottle a socket, aluminum foil, and a bic pen. worked good enough for me..

so i took a hit, just a little bit..i was scared at first..nothing really happened, i felt a little weird, that was about it. it didnt hurt my throat, or make me cough, it didnt even really have a taste.

so i waited about 20 minutes, and i doubled what i did before, maybe half of a gram..not quite. and smoked that, then i felt it..my weight almost doubled, i could feel gravity pulling on everything, even my throat, my eyelids, earlobes, everything.

it felt pretty cool, it felt like a not paranoid feeling shroom buzz, and it lasted a mere 20-30 seconds, no hangover feeling or residuals.

i said fuck it, i packed all that i had left, maybe 1.5 grams at this point, and i hit this little shitty bong like i had something to prove.
i smoked it all in one hit, milky yellowish smoke rolled out of my lungs..again, no itchy irritated feeling, no taste really at all either.

after a few seconds, i heard a *crack crack crack* similar to that of a lightning strike, crack crack BOOM!..anyways..i look towards the noise and there is a black sphere in my wall, like a black hole spinning violently, sucking up my wall, which at this point appears to made of wet cardboard, its sucking up my desk too in a similar fashion it folds over on itself and into the vortex.

BLACK.

silence, but im aware, and conscious.
i hear, wood on wood, and squeaking, i come to. all around me are wooden cogs, leather belts linking some together, some crazy dimly lit wooden gearhouse, with seemingly no end to it. i look around and there are two men, both wearing brown cloaks like monks or something, half covering the tops of their faces, pulling levers, pushing pedals.

oh no they see me...they're looking at each other, now looking at me like wtf are you doing here?

POOF! im back in my apartment, crawling on the floor..begging for mercy, i dont want any more, i want to stay in reality. then it feels as if i were laying in a cylinder half suspended in water, im above water, and now the cylinder is rolling over slowly, and im going under....

back in the gear house with the two men. now they are talking to me.
they tell me they run this realm of existence, they are the ones who keep everything in check, nature, karma, gravity, physics, they run it all somehow, i wasnt supposed to be there...my cylinder was rolling again, back to my apartment floor, im crawling..still begging for mercy.

WATER! go to the bathroomn drink water!..im crawling to the bathroom, my arms wont cooperate, the floor...it feels like thousands of tightly packed fish, floundering and floppuing under my hands, slimy nasty..

thats it. this is a true story of what i experienced smoking salvia divinorum
about 3-4 years ago.

never before have i hallucinated things that just flat out were not there.
i have eaten 10 hits of acid before, and not had this type of trip. always exaggerated things, like super bright colors, or rainbow effects around lights, or sounds mixing with shapes, etc.

this drug is scary, and it felt more real than reality does.

i dont recommend anyone do this drug, but if you do, get a babysitter to make sure you dont hurt yourself. i dont know if i passed out, or was flailing around, or just sitting there drooling on my self.
you need a strong mind for this drug, it is not for everyone.
it is really a religious mind expanding experience, it is not recreational.
i will never smoke that plant again.
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Great LoP, thank you for sharing your amazing salvia experience! Interesting details about the wooden gear-house, and the monks with brown cloaks.

If you don't mind adding, are you male or female?

Thanks! hf
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male 31
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Everyones experiences on salvia are different, with some similarities. I would like to know has any one else had this experiene of meeting her, and are you yourself male or female? It would be nice to talk with other people who have met her...



My experienes of smoking salvia have never been negative.

In my experiences, I have been warped to another dimension. Everyone there tells me how long they have been waiting for me, and they are so glad that I'm finally there. They are these little elves, but they are the fabric of the world. This is not something that I could possibly use words to describe, as I said the experience is taking place in another whole dimension

The most profound thing though is her. She is the queen of this dimension, I do not know if I have "seen" her directly or not, but I am positive her presence fills this dimension, and she is the ruler.

They tell me so many things, but as I drift away they take them any say they can't come back with me :(



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Her name is Deedro Deedee
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lmao at the accounts of bad trips use a seat belt for salv serious shit it cool to pass
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this.
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this.
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LoP, did you have any knowledge or feeling of any presence other than the two monks - any female presence?
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this.
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LoP, did you have any knowledge or feeling of any presence other than the two monks - any female presence?
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not with salvia, but with high doses of mushrooms, yes.
i cant exactly call it a female presence, but a nurturing sentient space time fabric being..if that makes sense.

so essentially, nurturing like a mother..femalish i guess haha

she is very loving, and warm, overloading your brain with all the answers in the universe, and theyre completely useless because you are so overwhelmed by beauty, and the sheer impossibility of everything you are experiencing.

best ive got.
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Yes I have met her twice! And once I met grey aliens. Funny enough I met her once with saliva and once with DMT, and the aliens with DMT.

First time after blastoff from salvia I felt myself being cradled like a baby in the arms of a loving female presence and she asked me if I wanted to stay, or go back. I paused for a second to think about it and then I was back.

Second time, everything went black as obsidian, and then a circle in the floor began to rise and there was a golden pole beneath the disc of the floor. As it rose, there she was in the form of a dancer swathed in silk cloths of the most beautiful colors. I could not see her face because the flowing cloths obscured it but I could see her form. She was dancing around and asked if I had a question for her. I said yes, and she said "You already know the answer." It was so amazing!

The alien encounter was funny too. These beings have a real good sense of humor. I blasted off on DMT, and found myself rocketing upwards in an all white elevator shaft type thing. I reached the top and hovered there as a door opened above me. Two grey aliens peered down and told me "Come back when you are ready." HAHAHA
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Yes I have met her twice! And once I met grey aliens. Funny enough I met her once with saliva and once with DMT, and the aliens with DMT.

First time after blastoff from salvia I felt myself being cradled like a baby in the arms of a loving female presence and she asked me if I wanted to stay, or go back. I paused for a second to think about it and then I was back.

Second time, everything went black as obsidian, and then a circle in the floor began to rise and there was a golden pole beneath the disc of the floor. As it rose, there she was in the form of a dancer swathed in silk cloths of the most beautiful colors. I could not see her face because the flowing cloths obscured it but I could see her form. She was dancing around and asked if I had a question for her. I said yes, and she said "You already know the answer." It was so amazing!

The alien encounter was funny too. These beings have a real good sense of humor. I blasted off on DMT, and found myself rocketing upwards in an all white elevator shaft type thing. I reached the top and hovered there as a door opened above me. Two grey aliens peered down and told me "Come back when you are ready." HAHAHA
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cool story.
thanks for sharing :)
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She is Gaia , the spirit of our planet
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salvia scared the shit out of me when i tried it. clown music. fucking clown music reverberating in my fucking skull which felt like eternity. also warping walls with clown music
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I definitely only read the first half page of this thread, but I just HAVE to share my experience right now because I can't believe that you're referring to this woman in my salvia trip, which was one of the most interesting experiences of my life.

I started hearing music coming from all around me and was ushered into this glass "elevator/tunnel" that brought me up and out, then I vaguely remember being ushered into this little "white" room and she was there. My first impression was that we were related, or that she was en extension of me...but afterward I "remembered" her as having blonde hair and blue eyes, which feels more symbolic than visual. Anyway, I don't remember her talking to me, but she had a "gift" for me (that's the impression I got). Until I got into that room with her I had felt overwhelmed as I was ushered forward. But she told me she had a gift and she pulled back a curtain that covered the entire wall to reveal...everything! lol. This is where my 3D mind blanks out and I just get this overwhelming impression of having felt extreme bliss and complete understanding of all that IS. Physically, I felt like I was sitting against the wall adjacent to this huge "window" she'd revealed, hugging my knees and hugging a teddy bear. Like it was the gift, they both were. Not sure if anything else went on there except me just BEing in that blissful moment and taking it all in, but then suddenly she told me I had to go and started ushering me back downward. It was like my "being" was "hooked" onto a ski-lift with no seat, traveling back down into my body. I turned back and it looked as if she "were" on the "hook" behind me, following me down. I begged her to let me stay or to come with me, but she said that it was time and I'm not sure if I'm adding it in on hindsight, but I think she said that she'll be with me and that I'll visit again.

As I re-entered my body I realized I was laughing uncontrollable. I saw my surroundings as a theater and I was the lead role. The others in the room were clowns, laughing with my hysterical laughter. I was both physically and emotionally crying, but the pain went unnoticed under the guise of the literally uncontrollable laughter. I covered my face as one does when they're weeping hysterically, but it still came off as the same motion you make when laughing hysterically.

If you're still here OP and you have ANY insight into this experience let me know!
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I've had several experiences with salvia, but nothing like the first. I had had a tiny taste of it the night before, which just made my face tingly and made me feel spacey. So I decided the most logical thing was to take a shower while on a salvia trip. I always loved showers on other trips... so why not salvia. Knowing that it was quick hitting, I got the shower running, got down to boxers, and proceeded to take a ginormous hit. Holding the hit I jumped into the shower, exhaled...





and then my shower ate me. It was like I was dropped into another world where everything was falling apart. There were people all around me, but I couldn't really make them out, or can't remember it for some reason. I do remember something was trying to scrub me into the surface of the world, and someone was telling me 'This has to happen.'. I had never had a trip so powerful that I had unwillingly left this dimension, so I was a little freaked out. I managed to somehow rip myself out of the surface of the world... and then ran out of my bathroom, down the stairs... then ran back up the stairs to hide the bong I had smoked the salvia with because I knew I had broken some kind of law (even though I had legally purchased the salvia the same day at my local smoke shop in az). I managed to stash the bong, and then all of a sudden when I started to run downstairs again, I snapped back into this dimension. I was beyond freaked out. I had a feeling like I had gone somewhere and seen something I wasn't allowed to see. It was like I had woken from the matrix, and while escaping one of those pods the robots came and put me back in... but I just didn't forget. That kind of feeling.

I did try salvia a number of times over the next month or so... and had a controllable, non world destroying trip every once in a while. But most of them ended in me scared out of my mind and unsure why.

I did more research on the plant and its origins after I had finally had enough and just gave up. It turns out the shamans who have been using the plant for thousands of years say that smoking the plant is disrespectful to the spirits behind it. They actually use it as a tincture and drink it while chewing on the leaves. The trip is supposed to come on a lot less immediately, and is more pleasant and acceptable to your senses.

I also want to add that I'm a little shocked at the number of people who have had dmt-like experiences on salvia. The majority of people who I've discussed it with and who I've seen try it have had not so great experiences. I know I'll never smoke it again. It'd be interesting to try it as a tincture.

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I've had several experiences with salvia, but nothing like the first. I had had a tiny taste of it the night before, which just made my face tingly and made me feel spacey. So I decided the most logical thing was to take a shower while on a salvia trip. I always loved showers on other trips... so why not salvia. Knowing that it was quick hitting, I got the shower running, got down to boxers, and proceeded to take a ginormous hit. Holding the hit I jumped into the shower, exhaled...





and then my shower ate me. It was like I was dropped into another world where everything was falling apart. There were people all around me, but I couldn't really make them out, or can't remember it for some reason. I do remember something was trying to scrub me into the surface of the world, and someone was telling me 'This has to happen.'. I had never had a trip so powerful that I had unwillingly left this dimension, so I was a little freaked out. I managed to somehow rip myself out of the surface of the world... and then ran out of my bathroom, down the stairs... then ran back up the stairs to hide the bong I had smoked the salvia with because I knew I had broken some kind of law (even though I had legally purchased the salvia the same day at my local smoke shop in az). I managed to stash the bong, and then all of a sudden when I started to run downstairs again, I snapped back into this dimension. I was beyond freaked out. I had a feeling like I had gone somewhere and seen something I wasn't allowed to see. It was like I had woken from the matrix, and while escaping one of those pods the robots came and put me back in... but I just didn't forget. That kind of feeling.

I did try salvia a number of times over the next month or so... and had a controllable, non world destroying trip every once in a while. But most of them ended in me scared out of my mind and unsure why.

I did more research on the plant and its origins after I had finally had enough and just gave up. It turns out the shamans who have been using the plant for thousands of years say that smoking the plant is disrespectful to the spirits behind it. They actually use it as a tincture and drink it while chewing on the leaves. The trip is supposed to come on a lot less immediately, and is more pleasant and acceptable to your senses.

I also want to add that I'm a little shocked at the number of people who have had dmt-like experiences on salvia. The majority of people who I've discussed it with and who I've seen try it have had not so great experiences. I know I'll never smoke it again. It'd be interesting to try it as a tincture.
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great story, it is crazy how similar the trips are.

i believe they have comparable chemical formulas, ibogaine (sp) etc too.

here.

Psilocybin C12H17N2O4P

DMT C12H16N2

salvinorin A C23H28O8 <---no nitrogen

LSD C20H25N3O

i dunno, just looking
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Re: The Lady you Meet on Salvia
Ibogaine C20H26N2O
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Re: The Lady you Meet on Salvia
I definitely only read the first half page of this thread, but I just HAVE to share my experience right now because I can't believe that you're referring to this woman in my salvia trip, which was one of the most interesting experiences of my life.

I started hearing music coming from all around me and was ushered into this glass "elevator/tunnel" that brought me up and out, then I vaguely remember being ushered into this little "white" room and she was there. My first impression was that we were related, or that she was en extension of me...but afterward I "remembered" her as having blonde hair and blue eyes, which feels more symbolic than visual. Anyway, I don't remember her talking to me, but she had a "gift" for me (that's the impression I got). Until I got into that room with her I had felt overwhelmed as I was ushered forward. But she told me she had a gift and she pulled back a curtain that covered the entire wall to reveal...everything! lol. This is where my 3D mind blanks out and I just get this overwhelming impression of having felt extreme bliss and complete understanding of all that IS. Physically, I felt like I was sitting against the wall adjacent to this huge "window" she'd revealed, hugging my knees and hugging a teddy bear. Like it was the gift, they both were. Not sure if anything else went on there except me just BEing in that blissful moment and taking it all in, but then suddenly she told me I had to go and started ushering me back downward. It was like my "being" was "hooked" onto a ski-lift with no seat, traveling back down into my body. I turned back and it looked as if she "were" on the "hook" behind me, following me down. I begged her to let me stay or to come with me, but she said that it was time and I'm not sure if I'm adding it in on hindsight, but I think she said that she'll be with me and that I'll visit again.

As I re-entered my body I realized I was laughing uncontrollable. I saw my surroundings as a theater and I was the lead role. The others in the room were clowns, laughing with my hysterical laughter. I was both physically and emotionally crying, but the pain went unnoticed under the guise of the literally uncontrollable laughter. I covered my face as one does when they're weeping hysterically, but it still came off as the same motion you make when laughing hysterically.

If you're still here OP and you have ANY insight into this experience let me know!
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Thank you! Wonderful, can totally relate to your experience here. She has many gifts, indeed.

Have you gone back to visit again?
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Re: The Lady you Meet on Salvia
and I'm female (above post)
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actually the one above that...with the window and clowns
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Wow ive beeb trying to find someone else who has met her! I see her every time I use salvia. I am me in my trip I suppose. She always reveals AMAZING information every time I see her.
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Re: The Lady you Meet on Salvia
i miss her, the salvia high, in the next few weeks, ill go buy some
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