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Anonymous Coward
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06/04/2012 02:55 PM
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As far as there's "not enough to go around" ... the Industrial Revolution never stopped. Our ability to produce is staggering... we pay farmers not to grow because with our tech, we could, if we wanted to, feed the world ten times over. It's the same with basic needs. We could produce toilet paper, soap, ect ect easily with minimal labour.

Who really is getting a free ride anyway? In the last five years, banks have been giving handouts amounting to a hundred years of social welfare.

Take your derivatives bubble with you.
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06/04/2012 02:59 PM
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Again I ask you, when you get rid of the current slave caste, who's going to do your dirty work? don't tell me wall street bankers are going to operate a car wash in their spare time (even if they could figure out how to refill the soap) lol...
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06/04/2012 03:07 PM
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You have to give us New York City too.
"Ain't what you eat, it's the way how you chew it." --Delbert McClinton



DONE DEAL!!!!
THANKS
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06/04/2012 03:10 PM
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Before you go, please return the trillions you just recently looted from our Treasury. Don't tell me you spent it already....
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Forcing people into one of two camps is what's causing all the devisiveness in the first place.

Things just aint that simple.
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I always thought it was intended to be "ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL" I know that is what I swore to uphold and fight for. I know that is the reason that I don't sleep well at night anymore.
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You know... thanks for pointing this simple phrase out. We all said it everyday growing up, but yet, seem to have forgotten what:

ONE NATION means.
UNDER GOD means.
INDIVISIBLE means.
WITH LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL means.

Thanks for your service... and I too, and sick and tired of the politicians and corporations thinking they run things... it is past time we, THE PEOPLE, put them in their place.
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06/04/2012 03:19 PM
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Just when this thread stops being an elitist's high-fiving session, unpinned.
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Nice set up on the whole False dichotomy thing. I am conservative, therefore I must be a christian. So so very silly. I do not seek to take away the rights of others by majority rule.
"The majority consists of fools, utter fools. Beware of the majority. If so many people are following something, that is enough proof that it is wrong. Truth happens to individuals, not to crowds."
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Nice set up on the whole False dichotomy thing. I am conservative, therefore I must be a christian. So so very silly. I do not seek to take away the rights of others by majority rule.
"The majority consists of fools, utter fools. Beware of the majority. If so many people are following something, that is enough proof that it is wrong. Truth happens to individuals, not to crowds."
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"The majority consists of fools..."

I suppose that's why America uses the delegate system (and electoral colleges) and not the popular vote.
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11/11/2012 10:15 AM
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Thought I'd give this a post election bump
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Forcing people into one of two camps is what's causing all the devisiveness in the first place.

Things just aint that simple.
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Then WHY do you CONSISTENTLY vote for & support one party over the other????
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11/11/2012 10:31 AM
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Forcing people into one of two camps is what's causing all the devisiveness in the first place.

Things just aint that simple.
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Then WHY do you CONSISTENTLY vote for & support one party over the other????
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The nature of the system forces us into one of two camps, you have to weigh various factors and choose the one that best represents your views based on overall ideology.

I would prefer to vote on individual issues rather than parties or personalities, but I realize that requires too much thinking for most of the electorate. I have a mix of liberal and conservative views depending on the topic.

I believe it's time for a complete reworking of our political economy and develop a planned economy. This experiment is just over 200 years old and it's time to make some adjustments in my view, but what's the chance of that happening? It won't happen.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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Forcing people into one of two camps is what's causing all the devisiveness in the first place.

Things just aint that simple.
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I disagree with an old analogy: If a well person goes to visit sick people, does the well person by his/her presence make those who are sick well? No, the sick overwhelm the well person making the well person sick. This same principle follows the progressive/communist/socialist ideology that we who are well, have to cater to and give all we work for to the sick, supposedly making the sick better and they become well. This does not work, no matter how much money or services aka "freebies" we throw to the sick people, they just want more "freebies" it is human nature by and large. So now as we can see by all the crap going on, the have nots are taking from the haves (those who choose to work hard and not leech off the government) The whole country is sick. Being a Texan...I only wish this were true in some way where we just have an amicable divorce so to speak and the progressive/communist/socialist group divides itself from the more conservative/republic loving group who favor the Constitution set forth by our forefathers. Why are we forced to just cave in and kowtow to the progressive/communist/socialist crowd? We don't want their trash anymore. We are sick of it. It would be the best for all concerned for them to go their way and us to go ours. I think that article was great and right on!
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The first illusion that needs to be dissolved is the prevalent and continually reinforced, fear-provoking Myth of Scarcity. The fear that there is not enough to go around creates a great deal of the divisiveness we see today.



Sacred Economics: Chapter 2, “The Illusion of Scarcity”

It is said that money, or at least the love of it, is the root of all evil. But why should it be? After all, the purpose of money is, at its most basic, simply to facilitate exchange—in other words, to connect human gifts with human needs. What power, what monstrous perversion, has turned money into the opposite: an agent of scarcity?

For indeed we live in a world of fundamental abundance, a world where vast quantities of food, energy, and materials go to waste. Half the world starves while the other half wastes enough to feed the first half. In the Third World and our own ghettos, people lack food, shelter, and other basic necessities and cannot afford to buy them. Meanwhile, we pour vast resources into wars, plastic junk, and innumerable other products that do not serve human happiness. Obviously, poverty is not due to a lack of productive capacity. Nor is it due to a lack of willingness to help: many people would love to feed the poor, to restore nature, and do other meaningful work but cannot because there is no money in it. Money utterly fails to connect gifts and needs. Why?

For years, following conventional opinion, I thought the answer was “greed.” Why do sweatshop factories push wages down to the bare minimum? Greed. Why do people buy gas-guzzling SUVs? Greed. Why do pharmaceutical companies suppress research and sell drugs that they know are dangerous? Greed. Why do tropical fish suppliers dynamite coral reefs? Why do factories pump toxic waste into the rivers? Why do corporate raiders loot employee pension funds? Greed, greed, greed.

Eventually I became uncomfortable with that answer. For one thing, it plays into the same ideology of separation that lies at the root of our civilization’s ills. It is an ideology as old as agriculture’s division of the world into two separate realms: the wild and the domestic, the human and the natural, the wheat and the weed. It says there are two opposing forces in this world, good and evil, and that we can create a better world by eliminating evil. There is something bad in the world and something bad in ourselves, something we must extirpate to make the world safe for goodness.

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[link to sacred-economics.com]
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
Mike Royko
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Forcing people into one of two camps is what's causing all the devisiveness in the first place.

Things just aint that simple.
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1000% this. Damn sheep.
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11/11/2012 11:27 AM
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More true today than ever bump
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Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
Mike Royko
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Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
Mike Royko

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