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06/04/2012 08:17 PM
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
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06/04/2012 08:19 PM
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How far down is the water in the bore hole?

Mechanical windmill pumps are not all that expensive but can be harder to find these days some places
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06/04/2012 08:19 PM
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you learned a trade? cant you make more money?
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06/04/2012 08:20 PM
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come to the Uk

that's all i can say really.

you may as well. everyone else does.
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06/04/2012 08:21 PM
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How far down is the water in the bore hole?

Mechanical windmill pumps are not all that expensive but can be harder to find these days some places
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Borehole 72m, water is really deep down
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06/04/2012 08:28 PM
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Burning the midnight oil?
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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06/04/2012 08:31 PM
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DOOOOOOOM must come quickly.
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Don't count on it.
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06/04/2012 08:32 PM
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Burning the midnight oil?
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Yes, literally have my little lantern. Can't sleep too restless. Must be all this strange energy going around!
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06/04/2012 08:34 PM
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I'd love to understand more about your life there. Can you tell me about your sheep. How many do yo herd?

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06/04/2012 08:35 PM
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DOOOOOOOM must come quickly.
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Don't count on it.
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Eternally optomistic! SmileyWink
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06/04/2012 08:35 PM
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go the route of solar n wind power..it may be expensive but, it'll be worth it in the long run

Prayers work wonders,too.

Good luck,OP! hf

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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


The prices you listed seem normal compared to Canada. $1.40 for gas is about .10$ high. The price for solar isn't high. $5500 dollars depending on what you are getting. I live off the grid it would be $30 000 for power lines to be run. $10-20 000 for a water well and $5000 for a natural gas line. I use a cheap $300 dollar gas gen that peaks at 3500 watts to charge my batteries every second day. I am guessing the pumP only needs to run intermittently. Do that use a gen. Build a bio mass gasifier if you can't afford the tiny bit of fuel. Easy to build. I did, never used it though.
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06/04/2012 08:38 PM
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[link to www.ironmanwindmill.com]
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06/04/2012 08:39 PM
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I'd love to understand more about your life there. Can you tell me about your sheep. How many do yo herd?

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I'm running 130 ewes with 4 rams, and also have 120 six month old lambs from last season.
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06/04/2012 08:41 PM
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


Things will get worse unless the doom comes.

So unless you can come up with a solution in the next 2-3 months, you really need to leave, while you still have some $$$.

We used to have windmills at home. You can get solar pumps that fit onto the bore/well.
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06/04/2012 08:42 PM
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I'm running 130 ewes with 4 rams, and also have 120 six month old lambs from last season.
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


What are sheep worth there?

In AU ewes run for about $130-$200 each.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

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ShepherdGirl (OP)

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06/04/2012 08:42 PM
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go the route of solar n wind power..it may be expensive but, it'll be worth it in the long run

Prayers work wonders,too.

Good luck,OP! hf
 Quoting: ~Christine~


Doing plenty of that! Trying to save to go off the grid. Tks
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


The prices you listed seem normal compared to Canada. $1.40 for gas is about .10$ high. The price for solar isn't high. $5500 dollars depending on what you are getting. I live off the grid it would be $30 000 for power lines to be run. $10-20 000 for a water well and $5000 for a natural gas line. I use a cheap $300 dollar gas gen that peaks at 3500 watts to charge my batteries every second day. I am guessing the pumP only needs to run intermittently. Do that use a gen. Build a bio mass gasifier if you can't afford the tiny bit of fuel. Easy to build. I did, never used it though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12928714

Also your Internet is cheapish or normal. $34 per gig. How much mb or gb do you need. 1 gb seems like alot
ShepherdGirl (OP)

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06/04/2012 08:46 PM
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


The prices you listed seem normal compared to Canada. $1.40 for gas is about .10$ high. The price for solar isn't high. $5500 dollars depending on what you are getting. I live off the grid it would be $30 000 for power lines to be run. $10-20 000 for a water well and $5000 for a natural gas line. I use a cheap $300 dollar gas gen that peaks at 3500 watts to charge my batteries every second day. I am guessing the pumP only needs to run intermittently. Do that use a gen. Build a bio mass gasifier if you can't afford the tiny bit of fuel. Easy to build. I did, never used it though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12928714


Unfortunately we don't have gas lines in SA. I run my cooking and heating on LP gas bottles. Very expensive.
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ShepherdGirl (OP)

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06/04/2012 08:52 PM
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I'm running 130 ewes with 4 rams, and also have 120 six month old lambs from last season.
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


What are sheep worth there?

In AU ewes run for about $130-$200 each.
 Quoting: Scuba7


Ewes go for about R950.00 to R1200.00 each. My sheep are naturally grazed organic which makes no difference in price here. Most farmers feedlot here.
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06/04/2012 08:53 PM
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I'd love to understand more about your life there. Can you tell me about your sheep. How many do yo herd?

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Sancti spiritus adsit nobis gratia. Maria, Stella maris, perducat nos ad portam salutis. Amen.
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06/04/2012 08:54 PM
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Ewes go for about R950.00 to R1200.00 each. My sheep are naturally grazed organic which makes no difference in price here. Most farmers feedlot here.
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I guess you have a big decision to make then.

In the next 2-3 months if you cannot find a solution, you need to cut and run while you still can.

Good luck.
Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today.

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06/04/2012 08:55 PM
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


The prices you listed seem normal compared to Canada. $1.40 for gas is about .10$ high. The price for solar isn't high. $5500 dollars depending on what you are getting. I live off the grid it would be $30 000 for power lines to be run. $10-20 000 for a water well and $5000 for a natural gas line. I use a cheap $300 dollar gas gen that peaks at 3500 watts to charge my batteries every second day. I am guessing the pumP only needs to run intermittently. Do that use a gen. Build a bio mass gasifier if you can't afford the tiny bit of fuel. Easy to build. I did, never used it though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12928714

Also your Internet is cheapish or normal. $34 per gig. How much mb or gb do you need. 1 gb seems like a lot
 Quoting: Stinky1 12928714


Not really it is our only form of communication.
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06/04/2012 08:56 PM
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Winter coming on there?
Most of Farmers/Ranchers there live in perpetual mortal danger from thugs. do you have trusted help?

Last Edited by MuzzleBreak on 06/04/2012 08:58 PM
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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If you have enough money to pay those bills why dont you move...
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06/04/2012 09:03 PM
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Are you aware of Agenda 21? If not you should be because this is part of it. They don't want you being self-sufficient. They want you living in a city and dependent on them.

They will tax you and anyone like you until you can't afford it. They are going to take your land.

How do you stop it? Mass civil uprising. Peaceful at first and if that doesn't work then Civil War.

Some things are worth fighting and dying for and freedom and property rights are a couple.
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06/04/2012 09:07 PM
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Winter coming on there?
Most of Farmers/Ranchers there live in perpetual mortal danger from thugs. do you have trusted help?
 Quoting: Muzzle


Getting rather chilly here now, -3°c at present. Yes my dogs, 4 boxers and 1 sheepdog and 8 puppies born last week, among other things. Trustworthy help is very hard to find here, safer without. Most of the crime is from the internal help.
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06/04/2012 09:08 PM
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Can you make any organic products from your farm to sell for extra money?
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06/04/2012 09:11 PM
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Help Glp'ers, I'm going a bit crazy here in South Africa. This country sucks! I have a small sheep farm, basically self-sustaining. Grow all my own food, with a Jersey cow for dairy needs. I bought this little farm about 5 years ago. I am so damn angry! TPTB have just upped my monthly payment. Our electricity has gone up again..... I pay R1000.00 line charges every month. This is just so I can have access to power to pump water from the borehole, etc, which then adds another R1000.00 of electricity used onto my bill. Of course they know that solar power is totally unaffordable here, I got a quote of R45000.00. Ludicrious. Running a generator is just as bad with fuel costing R12.00/l. The only thing keeping me going are my dogs.... which are crucial for my safety and Glp. Of course, internet costs are astronomical, R289.00/gig! What to do, what to do. DOOOOOOOM must come quickly. Sorry about the ranting and raving and tks for listening. GBYA
 Quoting: ShepherdGirl


Dear Lady,

I pray YHVH/God may protect you and bless you, that Lord willing your farm may become a haven and safe place as you get to Know YAHshua/Jesus. and that you remain undeceived and unaffected by mega so called churches, tax exempt so called churches and other wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your little farm becomes super productive, amen YAHshua/Jesus
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06/04/2012 09:11 PM
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Stay strong OP...big hugs...best of luck.
I dont know what to advise you, but sending some energy your way.

hf
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06/04/2012 09:13 PM
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Are you aware of Agenda 21? If not you should be because this is part of it. They don't want you being self-sufficient. They want you living in a city and dependent on them.

They will tax you and anyone like you until you can't afford it. They are going to take your land.

How do you stop it? Mass civil uprising. Peaceful at first and if that doesn't work then Civil War.

Some things are worth fighting and dying for and freedom and property rights are a couple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17020816


The hell they will! There is no way they putting me in the city. I will fight for my right to be free and live my own lifestyle. Agenda 21 is real bad news. Land appropriation is my biggest concern here. What a joke..
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