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Australians against the CARBON TAX, please read, help is here... We can stop it now.

 
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most australians,fast asleep.too fat and happy.
 Quoting: miserkocho


I have asked some of my friends (the sheeple) what they think of this tax.

(UN)suprisingly - majority think it is a good idea to save the planet.

You see this Green Movement is Australia came out of AGENDA-21 formented in the West made famous by AL Gore. IT has ZERO to do with saving the planet. fcking ZERO.

Just look at the energy saver light bulbs. You think it saves you that much energy? Power Bills Doubles every 2 years YET we are using 50% less energy than years ago. People are struggling with bills and they are turning to solar or simply switching off.

Look at water consumption- we are using 70-80% less water. we hv eliminated car-washing and lawn-watering from our routine. Are water bills going down? No. They are going up.

Look at the Energy Saver 'Green' Bulbs again. They CONTAIN mercury. UK coucil workers are no longer picking up any garbage with broken bulbs. Imagine the amount of Mercury in the Landfills and dumps in the future.

Bloody Sheeple as usual. Hope global warning comes and wipe them out.
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06/06/2012 09:33 PM
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Please people, this thread does have a genuine purpose.

Regrettably I have just reported two posters for their inappropriate posts.

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I think you need to understand where you are, an inappropriate post? That really depends on many things this site has swearing on it everywhere if you haven't noticed.
And secondly, if someone is giving abuse on the internet, and you want it to stop?
Just simply never reply to them again, and they will go away.
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Please people, this thread does have a genuine purpose.

Regrettably I have just reported two posters for their inappropriate posts.

I do expect debate and input that discusses all forms of thinking on this topic, but I will insist on consideration of other peoples feelings and differing levels of acceptance of decent expression.

If you post, please ensure that what you post is directly concerned with the topic of this thread, if there is a personal attack on anyone, not just myself, then I will not hesitate to make an abusive post report, again.

That is why that function is there and that is why I will use it.

In other words, everyone with a genuine contribution to make is welcomed and warmly so, otherwise leave the thread alone.

Thank you

Arkay.
 Quoting: arkay


i've given you some points for debate, but you choose to ignore it like a typical Liberal shillcunt.

go fuck yourself snitch

granny
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Regrettably, I have checked your previous posts and what you have done is post a litany of juvenlie insults and I fail to see anything over which there is content to debate, you are invited to leave this thread any time you choose.
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you tonytards are so fucking stupid.

what the hell do you think 'the emmissions scheme' is?

it's the same thing as the carbon tax, which Johnny wanted back in 2009
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No it isn't that was only going to be a test of trading carbon credits the same as in the US at the Chicago Climate Exchange which has now closed due to lack of interest.
It was never going to be "forced" like Juliar has done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


you're hilarious..tony alreay been talking about an 'ETS'..which is the same as a tax on carbon emissions.

FAIL
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06/06/2012 09:35 PM
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Perhaps seeing as the Ozzies are the new keepers of the earth, they could chip in and help bail out Greece?

How bout it Ozzies?

just a little tax!

Come on... you know you want to!
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They already are.. Julia agreed to chip in a couple of billions just last month. We cannot passed on this chance to impress the world since we have the world's GREATEST treasurer - the Swan.
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Re: Australians against the CARBON TAX, please read, help is here... We can stop it now.
Please people, this thread does have a genuine purpose.

Regrettably I have just reported two posters for their inappropriate posts.

I do expect debate and input that discusses all forms of thinking on this topic, but I will insist on consideration of other peoples feelings and differing levels of acceptance of decent expression.

If you post, please ensure that what you post is directly concerned with the topic of this thread, if there is a personal attack on anyone, not just myself, then I will not hesitate to make an abusive post report, again.

That is why that function is there and that is why I will use it.

In other words, everyone with a genuine contribution to make is welcomed and warmly so, otherwise leave the thread alone.

Thank you

Arkay.
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i've given you some points for debate, but you choose to ignore it like a typical Liberal shillcunt.

go fuck yourself snitch

granny
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Regrettably, I have checked your previous posts and what you have done is post a litany of juvenlie insults and I fail to see anything over which there is content to debate, you are invited to leave this thread any time you choose.
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and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...
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06/06/2012 09:37 PM
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>>>>and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...<<<<

ON the other hand i supposed you are quite happy of news that CO2 is killing the planet. LOL.
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06/06/2012 09:38 PM
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
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06/06/2012 09:40 PM
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Please people, this thread does have a genuine purpose.

Regrettably I have just reported two posters for their inappropriate posts.

 Quoting: arkay


I think you need to understand where you are, an inappropriate post? That really depends on many things this site has swearing on it everywhere if you haven't noticed.
And secondly, if someone is giving abuse on the internet, and you want it to stop?
Just simply never reply to them again, and they will go away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


You are quite right.

And as you point out, this site does have some considerably colorful language associated to it, however that doesent mean that on my thread that I have to accept it as appropreiate.

On all my other threads, after a short period where I find that it has been necessary to set acceptable standards for posters, all the language stops and those that remain quite openly express their grattitude for those standards being in place, and then the particular thread becomes a truely meaningful and worthwhile expenditure of time for all that remain.

So now I hope we can all move forward in a more productive manner.

Thank you all.

arkay
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Good luck because governments want your money to acquire more power over you and your children's children, children.



[link to www.youtube.com]
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06/06/2012 09:41 PM
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this is the OP----> lala
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06/06/2012 09:49 PM
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>>>>and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...<<<<

ON the other hand i supposed you are quite happy of news that CO2 is killing the planet. LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246800


Please read my earlier post...copied here for your benefit, it was on page 3...

Lets also take this opportunity to put this "carbon Dioxide" thing into complete perspective.

Now some of my figures can be challenged for accuracy as I dont posses the qualifications to make this example scientifically accurate, but I dont need to.

The estimated quantities and volumes simply speak for themselves.

So, here goes, as Australians reading this for the most part lets select your average decent sized Gum tree.

Lets say that it weighs around ten tonnes.

Of that ten tonnes around 60% of it is water, so if we remove the water we are left with about 4 tonnes of material.

So, now lets remove all the minerals etc that this tree extracted out of the ground in order to grow.

That would maybe amount to about a few hundred kilograms at best, but for the argument lets say half a ton.

So whats left?

It weighs around 3 and a half tonnes, doesent it?

Well here we go, its carbon, thats right good old basic element carbon, and essential to just about all life on this planet.


Now, lets step back a little and lets let nature do its job, the tree lives, then it dies.

What happens?

It slowly rots and breaks down into those minerals, gives up its water content and...the carbon oxidizes, ie it rots.

It combines with oxygen out of the air and forms...carbon dioxide.

One carbon atom combined with two atoms of oxygen.

What happens next is that the tree next door takes in some water, some minerals from the soil and then it absorbs CARBON DIOXIDE in a process called photosynthesis by using the sun, and it keeps the carbon to become a growing tree and the oxygen it gives to us to breathe and live.

Thats during the day time, during the night that tree will ever so slightly reverse that process, but its so minor as to be almost negligible.

Ok after that biology lesson, one simple question.

Why are we being taxed for a perfectly natural process that is absolutely essential for all life on earth to exist.

And before I hear any greenies having a go at me over this, please consider the fact that this planet has had much warmer periods than we currently have and life flourished, so much so that the Romans grew grapes in Scotland, and the Vikings farmed Greenland, before the ice drove them away.

Those are scientificaly proven facts, ask any archeolegist.
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06/06/2012 09:52 PM
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you tonytards are so fucking stupid.

what the hell do you think 'the emmissions scheme' is?

it's the same thing as the carbon tax, which Johnny wanted back in 2009
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5894459


No it isn't that was only going to be a test of trading carbon credits the same as in the US at the Chicago Climate Exchange which has now closed due to lack of interest.
It was never going to be "forced" like Juliar has done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


you're hilarious..tony alreay been talking about an 'ETS'..which is the same as a tax on carbon emissions.

FAIL
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Right, can you read? VOLUNTARY Emissions Trading Scheme? Did you get that? Like in the US, the Chicago Climate Exchange, if you want to do it, you can, do you get that yet?
Not the same as a TAX that everyone MUST pay to plug the hole in the budget that a pathetic communist government caused.
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06/06/2012 09:55 PM
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
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Why don't you tell us, how in all reality, you think Tony Abbott could go back on his pledge to repeal the Carbon Tax?
When he has publicly given his blood oath that he will do it?
He would be going to an election based 80% on that alone.
And you want to spread dis-info that he will just then say nahhh can't be bothered now?
I think you show yourself as some kind of intellectually disabled person if you expect people to believe such nonsense.
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>>>>and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...<<<<

ON the other hand i supposed you are quite happy of news that CO2 is killing the planet. LOL.
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Oh look we found a Marxist environmental extremist how wonderful lets all get prepared for some illogical group think.
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
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Why don't you tell us, how in all reality, you think Tony Abbott could go back on his pledge to repeal the Carbon Tax?
When he has publicly given his blood oath that he will do it?
He would be going to an election based 80% on that alone.
And you want to spread dis-info that he will just then say nahhh can't be bothered now?
I think you show yourself as some kind of intellectually disabled person if you expect people to believe such nonsense.
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phoney tony would have to be in office at least 2 YEARS before he could call a double disolution election.

by this time, the electorate would have worked out how FULL OF SHIT that fearmonger realy is.
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ANyone who think this whole carbon tax ETS and other atmospheric-saving-fantasies are just living on pipe dream.

Our handlers know how gullible we are - so they dole out all these fantasies for us to feed on.

ETS only benefit the bankers and moneymen. Not us.

The climate might be changing but it is not because the sheeps are farting too much or we are burning logs to keep warm.
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>>>>and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...<<<<

ON the other hand i supposed you are quite happy of news that CO2 is killing the planet. LOL.
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Oh look we found a Marxist environmental extremist how wonderful lets all get prepared for some illogical group think.
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I seriously doubt you even know what the word Marxist is.

LOL
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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It won't destroy the country but it will hit your side pocket and back pockets and front pockets. happy now,.
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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It won't destroy the country but it will hit your side pocket and back pockets and front pockets. happy now,.
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how exactly?...

put up of stfu!
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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It won't destroy the country but it will hit your side pocket and back pockets and front pockets. happy now,.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246800


how exactly?...

put up of stfu!
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if this is the kinda rubbish language i have to put up with - you wont get an answer.
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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It won't destroy the country but it will hit your side pocket and back pockets and front pockets. happy now,.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246800


how exactly?...

put up of stfu!
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if this is the kinda rubbish language i have to put up with - you wont get an answer.
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thought so.

fucking idiot.
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5894459


Why don't you tell us, how in all reality, you think Tony Abbott could go back on his pledge to repeal the Carbon Tax?
When he has publicly given his blood oath that he will do it?
He would be going to an election based 80% on that alone.
And you want to spread dis-info that he will just then say nahhh can't be bothered now?
I think you show yourself as some kind of intellectually disabled person if you expect people to believe such nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


phoney tony would have to be in office at least 2 YEARS before he could call a double disolution election.

by this time, the electorate would have worked out how FULL OF SHIT that fearmonger realy is.
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lol wtf? More dis info from you Marxist fool the moment he gets in the carbon tax is GONE he will have a massive majority this time.
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>>>>and what you are doing is blatent FEARMONGERING....post links of how much this carbon tax will kill our country or stfu. sounds to me like you are detached from reality...<<<<

ON the other hand i supposed you are quite happy of news that CO2 is killing the planet. LOL.
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Oh look we found a Marxist environmental extremist how wonderful lets all get prepared for some illogical group think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


I seriously doubt you even know what the word Marxist is.

LOL
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You, that's the definition, you traitorous communist fool.
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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Marxist shill thinks its funny that a carbon tax would murder people and make them starve.
Dirty Malthusian freak.
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
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he has more chance of stopping it than the website op promotes, which has zero.
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06/06/2012 10:22 PM
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still the OP hasn't posted any proof the carbon tax will destroy our country.


LMFAO
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It won't destroy the country but it will hit your side pocket and back pockets and front pockets. happy now,.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246800


how exactly?...

put up of stfu!
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if this is the kinda rubbish language i have to put up with - you wont get an answer.
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Thanks for that, he'll get sick of things soon enough, just an insignificant distraction, either that or here to deliberately dissrupt the thread.

( Or maybe its Juliar trying to defend her tax. ) hehe

Any thinking Australian already knows the implications, in terms of personal costs that this tax is causing and that doesent need links, but hey if you want a really good link, here is one...

[link to www.taxpayers.org.au]
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why doesn't PHONEY TONY actually tell the truth for once and tell us the chances of repealing the carbon tax is zero.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5894459


he has more chance of stopping it than the website op promotes, which has zero.
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He HAS to repeal it, if he didn't, he would be lynched.
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( Or maybe its Juliar trying to defend her tax. ) hehe


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Its probably some over paid under worked (as we can see) public servant dole bludger who licks Juliars boots for her.





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