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[link to www.time.com]

"The National Science Foundation has just revealed the existence of not one, but two pristine, Hubble-class space telescopes, still in their original wrappings, in a warehouse in Rochester, N.Y. The pair was originally built for the National Reconnaissance Office, the agency in charge of spy satellites, to look down at Earth rather than up into space"

If they can see earth they can see the Moon landing sites!


"a new space telescope sensitive to the infrared light that comes from newborn galaxies and newborn planets, and with a much wider field of view than Hubble's sharp but narrow eye. This proposed scope, known as WFIRST (the Wide-Field Infrared Survey Telescope), would also study dark energy and dark matter"

That means it can see Nibiru! See this thread for more information

Thread: TRUTH ABOUT NIBIRU/PLANETX - Click. Read. Prepare.
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Think about this, a spy satellite with extreme infrared light detection means they wanted to spy on people at night.
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Oh no not that crap story about made up story on planet x which is not there or ever likely to be there in 200 yrs or more, for fucks sake this planet x has been comming for the last 10 yrs its like the millenium bug that never happned fucking retard.
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Oh no not that crap story about made up story on planet x which is not there or ever likely to be there in 200 yrs or more, for fucks sake this planet x has been comming for the last 10 yrs its like the millenium bug that never happned fucking retard.
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Its orbit is 3600 years long so being off by 10 years is nothing. Normal amateur astronomers can't find it on their own because you can only see it with a space-based infrared telescope (the atmosphere reflects almost all infrared light).
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Brown Dwarfs are extremely common in our galaxy, the two officially closest ones to us are only 19 light years away. However, their existence was only confirmed VERY recently.

"For many years, efforts to discover brown dwarfs were frustrating and searches to find them seemed fruitless. In 1988, however, University of California, Los Angeles professors Eric Becklin and Ben Zuckerman identified a faint companion to GD 165 in an infrared search of white dwarfs."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:


Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't. Most infrared light from celestial sources is absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere. Only a narrow window of near-infrared radiation (at wavelengths less than about 4 microns) reaches the Earth. Observations at these wavelengths requires that the infrared camera be cooled to hundreds of degrees below zero using a cryogen (such as liquid helium) and requires special solid-state infrared detectors (costing tens of thousands of dollars). Hence, it is impractical to consider a true infrared telescope for personal use.
[link to coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu]


More information about Brown Dwarfs:





So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.

So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:

Which infrared observatories are currently operating in space?
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects. The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths. The first space-borne infrared telescope was the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS), a collaborative effort of the US, UK, and the Netherlands. IRAS orbited the Earth for 10 months in 1983, and the mission ended when its onboard cryogen (refrigerant) was exhausted.
A second-generation astronomical observatory, with much greater capabilities, was the Infrared Space Observatory (ISO). This European Space Agency satellite orbited the Earth from late 1995 through early 1998.
The latest major infrared observatory launched into space will is the Spitzer Space Telescope, a NASA mission which was launched in August 2003. SIRTF was launched into an Earth-trailing solar orbit, and will operate for 5 years or more.
[link to coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu]



So if Nibiru existed, those missions would have seen it like a second sun in the night sky. Only a complete cover-up of the images could hide something so colossal...


Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?



Connect the dots and you will conclude:


we

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That last video was blocked by YouTube. This one works but has no music at all



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

from the uploader Th1nkFastOrElse:
i tried 5 seperate times to add different music, but the kept blocking it, but i find it strange how my other video is still up even though it has music on it.
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This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:
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Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate?

It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away.
Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
m42infraredbw
So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. In addition to whatever amount of infrared light it emits, a brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here.
So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Hilariously wrong. Not that it even matters given the above, but just to show how you're wrong again let me name for you some of the infrared telescopes NASA's been involved in. IRAS, SWAS, WIRE (which failed), Spitzer, Herschel, and WISE.
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects.
 Quoting: AC

LOL, wut? Spitzer and Herschel both observe in the infrared.
The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths.
 Quoting: AC

So what? You can see brown dwarfs at near-infrared wavelengths. How do you think brown dwarf stars like 2MASS J16452211-1319516 got their names? Because they were discovered by the 2 Micron All Sky Survey!
Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?
 Quoting: AC

Oh good grief, if you're using those as your primary method of obtaining sky survey data then you're demonstrating a massive amount of ignorance about astronomy. It's how people like me know someone is full of shit, it's like smelling blood in the water. Here you go pal, knock yourself out, WISE all-sky survey in infrared:
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
If you want sky survey data, ALWAYS go to the primary source. Google sky et al are just secondary sources of the data, stitched and compressed for easy consumption by people who know little to nothing about astronomy. They are not primary sources for any sky survey, they just stitch and compress images from pre-existing sky surveys.

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This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16819164

Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate?

It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away.
Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
:m42infraredbw:
So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. In addition to whatever amount of infrared light it emits, a brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here.
So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Hilariously wrong. Not that it even matters given the above, but just to show how you're wrong again let me name for you some of the infrared telescopes NASA's been involved in. IRAS, SWAS, WIRE (which failed), Spitzer, Herschel, and WISE.
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects.
 Quoting: AC

LOL, wut? Spitzer and Herschel both observe in the infrared.
The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths.
 Quoting: AC

So what? You can see brown dwarfs at near-infrared wavelengths. How do you think brown dwarf stars like 2MASS J16452211-1319516 got their names? Because they were discovered by the 2 Micron All Sky Survey!
Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?
 Quoting: AC

Oh good grief, if you're using those as your primary method of obtaining sky survey data then you're demonstrating a massive amount of ignorance about astronomy. It's how people like me know someone is full of shit, it's like smelling blood in the water. Here you go pal, knock yourself out, WISE all-sky survey in infrared:
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
If you want sky survey data, ALWAYS go to the primary source. Google sky et al are just secondary sources of the data, stitched and compressed for easy consumption by people who know little to nothing about astronomy.
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That is not an intelligent response.
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This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16819164

Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate?

It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away.
Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
:m42infraredbw:
So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. In addition to whatever amount of infrared light it emits, a brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here.
So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Hilariously wrong. Not that it even matters given the above, but just to show how you're wrong again let me name for you some of the infrared telescopes NASA's been involved in. IRAS, SWAS, WIRE (which failed), Spitzer, Herschel, and WISE.
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects.
 Quoting: AC

LOL, wut? Spitzer and Herschel both observe in the infrared.
The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths.
 Quoting: AC

So what? You can see brown dwarfs at near-infrared wavelengths. How do you think brown dwarf stars like 2MASS J16452211-1319516 got their names? Because they were discovered by the 2 Micron All Sky Survey!
Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?
 Quoting: AC

Oh good grief, if you're using those as your primary method of obtaining sky survey data then you're demonstrating a massive amount of ignorance about astronomy. It's how people like me know someone is full of shit, it's like smelling blood in the water. Here you go pal, knock yourself out, WISE all-sky survey in infrared:
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
If you want sky survey data, ALWAYS go to the primary source. Google sky et al are just secondary sources of the data, stitched and compressed for easy consumption by people who know little to nothing about astronomy. They are not primary sources for any sky survey, they just stitch and compress images from pre-existing sky surveys.
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This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:
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Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate?

It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away.
Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
m42infraredbw
So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. In addition to whatever amount of infrared light it emits, a brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here.
So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Hilariously wrong. Not that it even matters given the above, but just to show how you're wrong again let me name for you some of the infrared telescopes NASA's been involved in. IRAS, SWAS, WIRE (which failed), Spitzer, Herschel, and WISE.
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects.
 Quoting: AC

LOL, wut? Spitzer and Herschel both observe in the infrared.
The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths.
 Quoting: AC

So what? You can see brown dwarfs at near-infrared wavelengths. How do you think brown dwarf stars like 2MASS J16452211-1319516 got their names? Because they were discovered by the 2 Micron All Sky Survey!
Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?
 Quoting: AC

Oh good grief, if you're using those as your primary method of obtaining sky survey data then you're demonstrating a massive amount of ignorance about astronomy. It's how people like me know someone is full of shit, it's like smelling blood in the water. Here you go pal, knock yourself out, WISE all-sky survey in infrared:
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
If you want sky survey data, ALWAYS go to the primary source. Google sky et al are just secondary sources of the data, stitched and compressed for easy consumption by people who know little to nothing about astronomy. They are not primary sources for any sky survey, they just stitch and compress images from pre-existing sky surveys.
 Quoting: Astromut


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Factual debunking is not trolling.
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Pretty amazing to have 2 scopes just lying around not used.

Just goes to show that significant funding NASA used to get now goes to other NSA type agencies. It's a shame
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Not another nibtard thread. Give it a rest. Also your end conclusion of "NASA is looking for nibiru" simply because they got some more Hubbles lacks any logical steps.
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Yet again as one that used to winge and complain about Astromut, he goes and gives reasonable answers again without belittling, my respect to you astro, but now please could you explain to me why would these people on google sky and microsoft sky block out images, are they trying to hide something, or just doing it to give people the impression there is something there but really not, and lets pretend i know nothing of astronomy, thanks.
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If you know about it it's not top secret.

now gtfo
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redundancy is a good thing...

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but now please could you explain to me why would these people on google sky and microsoft sky block out images,
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They're incompetent, and it's a free service so it's not like they have much of a monetary motivation to fix it. Hell, the controversy now probably drives more hits and interest than it takes away. Bottom line, they should have hired me to do QC instead.
are they trying to hide something, or just doing it to give people the impression there is something there but really not, and lets pretend i know nothing of astronomy, thanks.
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Neither really, just sheer incompetence or at least a lack of motivation to do it competently (which would take more effort and time). For instance, the distribution of IRAS data that google sky uses excludes Saturn from the dataset with a black box and also blacks out CW Leonis to some extent. This is handy for astronomers using the survey to perform batch studies of the dataset - they're not interested in Saturn, ideally the major planets would not be in an all-sky survey at all and so it's a spurious detection as far as they're concerned. Even very bright stars can pose a problem for either spurious detections or failure to detect fainter stars nearby, so attenuating their brightness is also desirable.

Joe Q Public may not give a damn, but Google doesn't care, they just grabbed the most recent IRAS data distribution (which was that one) and ran with it. Google themselves probably weren't even aware of the ramifications or the advantages of using an older distribution that still had Saturn, etc. Clearly they didn't sit there vetting every single frame that would go into the mosaic, they just grabbed whatever they decided to grab (evidently under the assumption that the most recent distributions and plates would always be the best for their purposes, not true) and ran with it. Had they used an earlier distribution of the IRAS data, Saturn would not be a black box and CW leonis would look normal (though still very bright and with a "spike" through it from hysteresis). Anyone can still access the original distribution online straight from its source.

Hell, if they really just wanted to show "pretty pretty pictures" that Joe Q Public expects to see, they should just replace the Palomar Sky Survey data for the optical view altogether with the Photopic Sky Survey. It was made by an amateur, not with tax money by the government, so they'd probably have to license it though, so they're probably not going to do that. They probably paid nothing to use the sky surveys they're using.

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Blah, blah. No one's sure what it is, so why argue. However, if you take even a slight look at how planet x was recently portrayed by the man who found Sedna, or nasa (not sure who did the picture) it is shown as being black. As black as the background of space nearly. So we can assume it possibly stays this dark untill it gets closer perhaps.
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Blah, blah. No one's sure what it is, so why argue. However, if you take even a slight look at how planet x was recently portrayed by the man who found Sedna, or nasa (not sure who did the picture) it is shown as being black. As black as the background of space nearly. So we can assume it possibly stays this dark untill it gets closer perhaps.
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If you're referring to Gomes' hypothetical planet, it never gets closer than about 150 AUs at best, orbiting between the Kuiper belt and the Oort cloud.
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This is because Brown Dwarfs are only visible in the infrared spectrum:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16819164

Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate?

It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away.
Where can I purchase an infrared telescope for backyard use?
You can't.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
m42infraredbw
So if Nibiru existed and was a Brown Dwarf, it would be extremely difficult for anything earth-based to detect it.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. In addition to whatever amount of infrared light it emits, a brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here.
So, what about infrared telescopes in space?

Well, there were only 3 such telescopes ever built:
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Hilariously wrong. Not that it even matters given the above, but just to show how you're wrong again let me name for you some of the infrared telescopes NASA's been involved in. IRAS, SWAS, WIRE (which failed), Spitzer, Herschel, and WISE.
There presently is no space-borne observatory capable of observing thermal infrared light from celestial objects.
 Quoting: AC

LOL, wut? Spitzer and Herschel both observe in the infrared.
The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) carries an infrared instrument called NICMOS that can observe in certain near-infrared wavelengths, but not at mid-infrared or far-infrared wavelengths.
 Quoting: AC

So what? You can see brown dwarfs at near-infrared wavelengths. How do you think brown dwarf stars like 2MASS J16452211-1319516 got their names? Because they were discovered by the 2 Micron All Sky Survey!
Now that you know all this, watch this video:

What are Wikisky, Google sky and WWT hiding?
 Quoting: AC

Oh good grief, if you're using those as your primary method of obtaining sky survey data then you're demonstrating a massive amount of ignorance about astronomy. It's how people like me know someone is full of shit, it's like smelling blood in the water. Here you go pal, knock yourself out, WISE all-sky survey in infrared:
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
If you want sky survey data, ALWAYS go to the primary source. Google sky et al are just secondary sources of the data, stitched and compressed for easy consumption by people who know little to nothing about astronomy.
 Quoting: Astromut


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Calling astro a shill? This shill helped build the GLP observatory. It is not because someone is capable of using some common sense and might be smarter than you automatically categorizes this guy as a "shill"...
The correct description would be : Warning, a guy who is smarter than me", which, in your case, would not make people impressed as it is not that hard to be smarter than you it seems to me.

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Blah, blah. No one's sure what it is, so why argue. However, if you take even a slight look at how planet x was recently portrayed by the man who found Sedna, or nasa (not sure who did the picture) it is shown as being black. As black as the background of space nearly. So we can assume it possibly stays this dark untill it gets closer perhaps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1768581


If you're referring to Gomes' hypothetical planet, it never gets closer than about 150 AUs at best, orbiting between the Kuiper belt and the Oort cloud.
 Quoting: Astromut


^^^THIS^^^indeed, correct and fully agree

OMG, IQ stats going down the drain again on GLP it seems to me
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Yes, I am. But that's incorrect, simply because he's not even somewhat sure of its orbital path, or even it's size. Hence why it 'hasn't been found, yet.' But I don't buy it, it's just my opinion but I believe it's much closer. All he had its bands and rings going in a direction than, say, Jupiter. Showing it likely doesn't orbit in the same plain we do. This could also allow it to dart towards the solar system more quickly, as it would be flying straight towards us rather than orbiting along our path which would in turn make it take longer for it to come near us.
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*And he had its bands and rings going in a different direction. Whoops.

To the guy 'burn' above me, watch your mouth. Not to toot my horn but I'm a pretty smart guy. So take your dick sucking elsewhere, please.
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shill
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16819164

That is not an intelligent response.
 Quoting: Astromut

Did you really expect it?
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06/05/2012 10:47 AM
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If you know about it it's not top secret.

now gtfo
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This.
Niburu...fans' key problem is not (only) a lack of any relevant knowledge, but a lack of any common sense at all.

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06/05/2012 10:51 AM

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Think about this, a spy satellite with extreme infrared light detection means they wanted to spy on people at night.
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The satellites in question currently have no associated instrumentation, so you can't say they're geared for the infrared or visible or ultraviolet or whatever. NASA's most likely use is as an infrared observatory, but that involves building an instrument that detects the infrared and attaching it to the telescope.
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Yes, I am. But that's incorrect, simply because he's not even somewhat sure of its orbital path, or even it's size.
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That's the inner bound. The reason he's not sure is because it could be larger, but then it would be farther away.
But I don't buy it, it's just my opinion but I believe it's much closer.
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Here's why we know that's wrong:
[link to arxiv.org]
All he had its bands and rings going in a direction than, say, Jupiter.
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Wait, are you seriously trying to derive detailed physical characteristics from an artist's impression of a hypothetical planet whose physical size and characteristics could range anywhere from mars to Neptune? Really?
This could also allow it to dart towards the solar system more quickly, as it would be flying straight towards us rather than orbiting along our path which would in turn make it take longer for it to come near us.
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Orbital mechanics fail. The orbital period is independent of inclination. T=2*pi*Sqrt(Semi-major axis^3/(G(Mass of body 1 + Mass of body 2))). Seriously, what even made you think that you knew that to be true? I don't understand where you even got that notion.
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No one's tryin to argue with you dude, chill. Because you're not changing ahyone's opinion lol and I already know of your reputation. But I'll respond with a simple statement: you may be entirely wrong, I may be entirely wrong. We'll see.
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No one's tryin to argue with you dude, chill.
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You imply I'm upset. I'm not. I'm simply debating the facts of the matter.
Because you're not changing ahyone's opinion lol
 Quoting: AC

Actually, I have done just that in some cases.
and I already know of your reputation.
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What does that mean?
But I'll respond with a simple statement: you may be entirely wrong, I may be entirely wrong. We'll see.
 Quoting: AC

Then show me where I'm wrong. I showed you where I found you to be wrong, yet I don't even see you contesting those points.
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Talk about premature Nibirulation
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