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Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.

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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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THIS IS TO MURDER YOUR THREAD, Sorry I cant tollerate idiots. wake up buddy......Its real, drop it. If you dont like it then you can complain to congress about the 30 Billion dollar a year Geoengineering bill which is classified. Here ya go....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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You keep on in your delusional and traitorus state, my dear.
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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The Boeing 707 to enter service in 1958 and dominate the market for civilian airliners

Look at some movies made back in the 60's & 70's, and see if you can find any "chemtrails", oh i mean contrails. NOT
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You keep on in your delusional and traitorus state, my dear.
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"traitorus" !?

Hardly...

It's not treason to agree with basic science and point out that there is a complete lack of evidence to support the claims of the chemtards. Sorry.
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Shilly Shillington I presume.
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The Boeing 707 to enter service in 1958 and dominate the market for civilian airliners

Look at some movies made back in the 60's & 70's, and see if you can find any "chemtrails", oh i mean contrails. NOT
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There are plenty of movies with such images.

But, the 707 wasn't a particularly powerful or efficient airplane. With new technology, airplanes are able to produce more water vapor...and are able to push saturation levels past the point of supersaturation much easier than in the past.
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Shilly Shillington I presume.
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Tardy chemtardington, I presume.
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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SOIL samples from the past 16 years at your local DEP will provide enough evidence for you..... We did it at Storrs UCONN here in CT and evidence is conclusive. These chemicals and elements are on the rise in surface soil and have tested positive in tree bark.
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THIS IS TO MURDER YOUR THREAD, Sorry I cant tollerate idiots. wake up buddy......Its real, drop it. If you dont like it then you can complain to congress about the 30 Billion dollar a year Geoengineering bill which is classified. Here ya go....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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If this is the only argument you have, you're going to have to try better. Cloud seeding is what that bill is about. Not the spraying of chemicals for the purpose of affecting the air at the ground level.

Look up cloud seeding and tell me if that fits into your idea of chemtrails.
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The Boeing 707 to enter service in 1958 and dominate the market for civilian airliners

Look at some movies made back in the 60's & 70's, and see if you can find any "chemtrails", oh i mean contrails. NOT
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[link to contrailscience.com]
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THIS IS TO MURDER YOUR THREAD, Sorry I cant tollerate idiots. wake up buddy......Its real, drop it. If you dont like it then you can complain to congress about the 30 Billion dollar a year Geoengineering bill which is classified. Here ya go....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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If this is the only argument you have, you're going to have to try better. Cloud seeding is what that bill is about. Not the spraying of chemicals for the purpose of affecting the air at the ground level.

Look up cloud seeding and tell me if that fits into your idea of chemtrails.
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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SOIL samples from the past 16 years at your local DEP will provide enough evidence for you..... We did it at Storrs UCONN here in CT and evidence is conclusive. These chemicals and elements are on the rise in surface soil and have tested positive in tree bark.
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Please provide soil samples from the years before, to show me there is an increase. Show me evidence that the trails in the sky have anything to do with any increase. Please show me that pollution from industry isn't responsible. Please show me that these levels aren't normal and natural based on the soil type for the region. Please how me that the trees aren't absorbing these elements naturally, as they always have been.
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Yeah that is why Aluminium has been falling on the ground.
Damn those weather balloons ..
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My question is why you "contrailtards" are so desperate on debunking chemtrails. If someone believes in something that isn't true, who really gives a fuck? Let them believe it.

Some of you guys seem to go out of your way and take up a lot of time debunking chemtrails.

I could care less if someone believes in BS especially if they are just some stranger on the internet...

It almost seems like your job...
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THIS IS TO MURDER YOUR THREAD, Sorry I cant tollerate idiots. wake up buddy......Its real, drop it. If you dont like it then you can complain to congress about the 30 Billion dollar a year Geoengineering bill which is classified. Here ya go....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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 Quoting: SENTINAL 1149758


If this is the only argument you have, you're going to have to try better. Cloud seeding is what that bill is about. Not the spraying of chemicals for the purpose of affecting the air at the ground level.

Look up cloud seeding and tell me if that fits into your idea of chemtrails.
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]
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Sorry, there isn't any evidence that the trails wee all see behind jet engines have anything to do with geoengineering. There isn't any evidence that anyone has actually started geoengineering.

Just because you find bullshit on a website...doesn't make it fact.
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My question is why you "contrailtards" are so desperate on debunking chemtrails. If someone believes in something that isn't true, who really gives a fuck? Let them believe it.

Some of you guys seem to go out of your way and take up a lot of time debunking chemtrails.

I could care less if someone believes in BS especially if they are just some stranger on the internet...

It almost seems like your job...
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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SOIL samples from the past 16 years at your local DEP will provide enough evidence for you..... We did it at Storrs UCONN here in CT and evidence is conclusive. These chemicals and elements are on the rise in surface soil and have tested positive in tree bark.
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Please provide soil samples from the years before, to show me there is an increase. Show me evidence that the trails in the sky have anything to do with any increase. Please show me that pollution from industry isn't responsible. Please show me that these levels aren't normal and natural based on the soil type for the region. Please how me that the trees aren't absorbing these elements naturally, as they always have been.
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if you were a environmental person and or someone with a head, you would know these are not normal occurring particulates above ground. the fact that it is in bark shows that it was applied by air into the exodermus layer of the bark. Geoengineering has multiple applications. its not just cooling the earth. here is your second part. they go hand and hand. read up the research.
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No evidence for Alluminuim in the soil.. ???

Hahahha...:))

Unbelivable :)) What a shill..
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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My question is why you "contrailtards" are so desperate on debunking chemtrails. If someone believes in something that isn't true, who really gives a fuck? Let them believe it.

Some of you guys seem to go out of your way and take up a lot of time debunking chemtrails.

I could care less if someone believes in BS especially if they are just some stranger on the internet...

It almost seems like your job...
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It's not about desperation, it's about truth in the face of lies spread by people who "think" they understand a subject...and then fail miserably.

You people are indoctrinating others into a religion...which I know is false. I don't give a shit if people believe something, it's when they spread ignorant insanity as truth...and it spreads like a virus of stupid..I feel I have an obligation to point out the lies.

Yes, I do spend a lot of time doing this. I enjoy it.

Of course you think it may be my job...because you are a paranoid loser.
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Yes we are paranoid loosers and you are weather balloon.

Ahahhahah. :))
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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true true, here is the other point to this discussion... Why is monsanto creating resistant strains of food to particulates of aluminum and barium resistant food????? Last I checked, farm land doesnt have that unless it was added..... Please, this isnt even a discussion anymore. This is a huge deal in which private corporations are interlocking.. The term is full spectrum dominance and they know damn well what it is doing
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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true true, here is the other point to this discussion... Why is monsanto creating resistant strains of food to particulates of aluminum and barium resistant food????? Last I checked, farm land doesnt have that unless it was added..... Please, this isnt even a discussion anymore. This is a huge deal in which private corporations are interlocking.. The term is full spectrum dominance and they know damn well what it is doing
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Yes.. They fully know what they are doing.

That is why mercy is going to be very difficult to find.. at appointed time..
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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Yeah, but why do you people connect the trails we all see in the sky with geoengineering?

I never said geoengineering isn't real...and that there are people studying it...and testing it.

I'm just saying that there is no evidence that the trails in the sky have ANYTHING to do with any intentional geoengineering program. That's a fact.

It has nothing to do with any "love for the government".

There is absolutely no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails...NONE
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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Yeah, but why do you people connect the trails we all see in the sky with geoengineering?

I never said geoengineering isn't real...and that there are people studying it...and testing it.

I'm just saying that there is no evidence that the trails in the sky have ANYTHING to do with any intentional geoengineering program. That's a fact.

It has nothing to do with any "love for the government".

There is absolutely no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails...NONE
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USAF would beg to differ and Dept of Navy special warfare division.... I'll just let you go and do the research.
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There have been multiple reports done on geoengineering by both the Navy and the Air Force during the late 90s. You just don't want to admit to yourself that your beloved government could actually do something like this to its citizens.



Maybe it is actually for our benefit? With the sun becoming more active and all, maybe we would have all already die without spraying.
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true true, here is the other point to this discussion... Why is monsanto creating resistant strains of food to particulates of aluminum and barium resistant food????? Last I checked, farm land doesnt have that unless it was added..... Please, this isnt even a discussion anymore. This is a huge deal in which private corporations are interlocking.. The term is full spectrum dominance and they know damn well what it is doing
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Aluminum/barium has always been in the soil... And has always been a problem. Because monsanto wants to increase the viability of it's seeds, they are evil?!

Your paranoia makes you believe nonsense.
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