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Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

 
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2.5% is roughly 2,500 ppm. . . Still a far cry fro 5,500 ppm tested. . . Also, you have just demonstrated how refineries could just pass through 2,500 ppm to airlines cheaper than removing it . . . What an incentive to cooperate or look the other way when necessary . . . coffee4
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Um.... you left out a zero there:
1% = 10,000ppm
10% = 100,000ppm
100% - 1,000,000ppm

That would be 25,000 ppm.
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0.25% would be 2,500 ppm

You are correct my error . . . However . . . . It just makes it even easier . . .to push elevated sulfur containing jet fuel out of refineries . . . coffee4

Last Edited by George B on 06/24/2012 08:41 PM
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
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Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


clappa
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Funny how you just described how CONTRAILS. Behave, but I never see you helping your fellow chemtard to understand that.
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


clappa
 Quoting: CriticalThinking


Am I to understand that you don't think you can tell the difference between a contrail and "chemtrail" just by looking at them? And you understand the variables which change the behavior of the visible trails in the sky?!

Wow, you chemtards are finally understanding what contrails are...

Congratulations!


Now, if you could only provide even the slightest evidence that "chemtrails" exist...

Good Luck!

Last Edited by Noble on 06/25/2012 07:52 AM
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Funny how you just described how CONTRAILS. Behave, but I never see you helping your fellow chemtard to understand that.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble, I have never said anything different. . . .you either don't read or don't understand what I am communicating . . .I think what you call persistent contrails are in essence what others call chemtrails. . . And what most people who believe in chemtrails see as chemtrails are persistent trails and cirrus cloud banks which I think are the result of an intentional policy by those in positions to dictate policy to experiment with global dimming and localized as well as global climate change. . .
.coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


clappa
 Quoting: CriticalThinking



Am I to understand that you don't think you can tell the difference between a contrail and "chemtrail" just by looking at them? And you understand the variables which change the behavior of the visible trails in the sky?!

Wow, you chemtards are finally understanding what contrails are...

Congratulations!


Now, if you could only provide even the slightest evidence that "chemtrails" exist...

Good Luck!
 Quoting: Noble

It is a waste of time and money. . . .since they are basically the same thing. . .except for possibly a rare dedicated flight . . . The chance to catch that flight would be like finding a needle in an ocean. . . peace
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Hey George, if sulfur is responsible fo the look of the trails, why do they stop and start?!

Is the pilot varying the mixture? Is he/ she switching tanks back and forth? Why are some trails long..while others are short?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Funny how you just described how CONTRAILS. Behave, but I never see you helping your fellow chemtard to understand that.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17975050


Noble, I have never said anything different. . . .you either don't read or don't understand what I am communicating . . .I think what you call persistent contrails are in essence what others call chemtrails. . . And what most people who believe in chemtrails see as chemtrails are persistent trails and cirrus cloud banks which I think are the result of an intentional policy by those in positions to dictate policy to experiment with global dimming and localized as well as global climate change. . .
.coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Or, you are failing to properly communicate your beliefs. What I see is people are posting images of long lasting trails which they refer to as "chemtrails" and short lived trails, which they refer to as "ordinary contrails"....and I never see you try to help. Yes, these things are aerosols...just as the billions and billions of other sources of aerosols which you cant prove are intentional.

And these trails have a name...and chemtards are calling them something else...which makes them WRONG! It's not about what I call them, it's what they ARE!~ They have always been, and always will be...CONTRAILS...regardless of what paranoid losers call them...or what they believe their purpose to be. Why do you refuse to help them? Oh yeah...because you "believe" that contrails are a subset of "chemtrails". Convenient...even though you perfectly explained above how these trails of water vapor behave...with or without the added sulfur you claim to be in them...

crazy

It's up to you to provide evidence of intent...and you have failed...over and over again.

Just because they don't see the benefit VS cost doesn't mean it's a conscious decision to place the aerosols into the air.

And what about the AWAC contrail over the UK, didn't you spend days on the fact that it was visible?! I love how you flip-flop back in forth on the importance of whether or not the visibility matters.

Last Edited by Noble on 06/25/2012 08:22 AM
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

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Noble,


Multiple factors . . . Up-drafts, downdrafts, fronts, pockets of dry air . . . Other aircraft which have added enough moisture to spontaneously cause persistent trails where there were none before . . . And of course what you suggested above . . . Including changing the performance levels of the engines in flight . . . Dumping fuel, changing altitude by climbing or descending . . . Changing control surfaces . . . I am sure there are others . . .

As I have always said . . . visibility to the human eye is not the only characteristic of an aerosol released at any altitude . . . Persistence depends on the atmospheric environment no matter what is in an aerosol; and even if visible . . . It will always become invisible shortly either in a few seconds or a few hours . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


clappa
 Quoting: CriticalThinking



Am I to understand that you don't think you can tell the difference between a contrail and "chemtrail" just by looking at them? And you understand the variables which change the behavior of the visible trails in the sky?!

Wow, you chemtards are finally understanding what contrails are...

Congratulations!


Now, if you could only provide even the slightest evidence that "chemtrails" exist...

Good Luck!
 Quoting: Noble

It is a waste of time and money. . . .since they are basically the same thing. . .except for possibly a rare dedicated flight . . . The chance to catch that flight would be like finding a needle in an ocean. . . peace
 Quoting: George B


What's a waste of time and money?

And no, contrails aren't "chemtrails" any more than the exhaust from my car is "chemtrails"...

When things already have a name...you are NOT qualified to change the name. If you think contrails are polluting or are part of an intentional aerosol program...they are STILL contrails regardless. Sorry!

And there is NO EVIDENCE that anything is being deposited into the atmosphere through any "flight". It could be dedicated balloons...or blimps, or done through some secret space plane that NASA has...or any number of other devices...if its actually happening. You have NO EVIDENCE that any airplane is involved whatsoever.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Or, you are failing to properly communicate your beliefs. What I see is people are posting images of long lasting trails which they refer to as "chemtrails" and short lived trails, which they refer to as "ordinary contrails"....and I never see you try to help. Yes, these things are aerosols...just as the billions and billions of other sources of aerosols which you cant prove are intentional.

And these trails have a name...and chemtards are calling them something else...which makes them WRONG! It's not about what I call them, it''s what they ARE!~ They have always been, and always will be...CONTRAILS...regardless of what paranoid losers call them...or what they believe their purpose to be. Why do you refuse to help them? Oh yeah...because you "believe" that contrails are a subset of "chemtrails". Convenient...even though you perfectly explained above how these trails of water vapor behave...with or without the added sulfur you claim to be in them...

crazy

It's up to you to provide evidence of intent...and you have failed...over and over again.

Just because they don't see the benefit VS cost doesn't mean it's a concious decision to place the aerosols into the air.

And what about the AWAC contrail over the UK, didn't you spend days on the fact that it was visible?! I love how you flip-flop back in forth on the importance of whether or not the visibility matters.
 Quoting: Noble

Noble, it takes time for people to understand the complexities of atmospheric concepts. . . .you have said so your self. . . .but by calling people idiots, etc is not the way to accomplish an education. . . . or change of understanding . . . I also don't know what other people know or have witnessed . . . so unlike you I keep an open mind . . . I am not sure that everything on video and photos are simply persistent contrails as you say . . . I simply don't knowcoffee4

1) The persistent trails in the sky when noticed by people illicit an emotional response. . . .usually a negative almost primeval response. . . .

2) Visibility of trails though fleeting is how most people interested in the issue became fascinated by the concept or conspiracy theory . . . So even though visibility is a limited characteristic it is important and cannot be
ignored in the discussion. . . .

3) IMO, A careful investigation of the history, behavior and scientific discussions from NASA, NOAA, DoE, IPCC, International Regulatory Groups, Treaties, laws, Military tactical and Strategic capabilities and weapon systems, Geoengineering Symposia & research, etc . alone would alert someone that some type of intentional covert aerosol injection program could have
and presently exists. . . .

Last Edited by George B on 06/25/2012 08:36 AM
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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 Quoting: CriticalThinking



Am I to understand that you don't think you can tell the difference between a contrail and "chemtrail" just by looking at them? And you understand the variables which change the behavior of the visible trails in the sky?!

Wow, you chemtards are finally understanding what contrails are...

Congratulations!


Now, if you could only provide even the slightest evidence that "chemtrails" exist...

Good Luck!
 Quoting: Noble

It is a waste of time and money. . . .since they are basically the same thing. . .except for possibly a rare dedicated flight . . . The chance to catch that flight would be like finding a needle in an ocean. . . peace
 Quoting: George B


What's a waste of time and money?

And no, contrails aren't "chemtrails" any more than the exhaust from my
car is "chemtrails"...

When things already have a name...you are NOT qualified to change the name. If you think contrails are polluting or are part of an intentional aerosol program...they are STILL contrails regardless. Sorry!

And there is NO EVIDENCE that anything is being deposited into the atmosphere through any "flight". It could be dedicated balloons...or blimps, or done through some secret space plane that NASA has...or any number of other devices...if its actually happening. You have NO EVIDENCE that any airplane is involved whatsoever.

 Quoting: Noble


I am just as qualified as anyone else to change the name or definition of a word or concept . . . Either people accept what I present or reject it. . . That is the way it works. . . .do you think words have only one meaning and never change. . . .???? They change all the time. . . .especially when they don't properly describe a seed change in a concept or meaning when new data or understanding is uncovered. . . .coffee4


You can yell all you want . . . It is the people who ultimately decide by their use of a word what meaning it will or will not have and not
necessarily the experts . . . LoL!!!!!

Last Edited by George B on 06/25/2012 08:55 AM
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Or, you are failing to properly communicate your beliefs. What I see is people are posting images of long lasting trails which they refer to as "chemtrails" and short lived trails, which they refer to as "ordinary contrails"....and I never see you try to help. Yes, these things are aerosols...just as the billions and billions of other sources of aerosols which you cant prove are intentional.

And these trails have a name...and chemtards are calling them something else...which makes them WRONG! It's not about what I call them, it''s what they ARE!~ They have always been, and always will be...CONTRAILS...regardless of what paranoid losers call them...or what they believe their purpose to be. Why do you refuse to help them? Oh yeah...because you "believe" that contrails are a subset of "chemtrails". Convenient...even though you perfectly explained above how these trails of water vapor behave...with or without the added sulfur you claim to be in them...

crazy

It's up to you to provide evidence of intent...and you have failed...over and over again.

Just because they don't see the benefit VS cost doesn't mean it's a concious decision to place the aerosols into the air.

And what about the AWAC contrail over the UK, didn't you spend days on the fact that it was visible?! I love how you flip-flop back in forth on the importance of whether or not the visibility matters.
 Quoting: Noble

Noble, it takes time for people to understand the complexities of atmospheric concepts. . . .you have said so your self. . . .but by calling people idiots, etc is not the way to accomplish an education. . . . or change of understanding . . . I also don't know what other people know or have witnessed . . . so unlike you I keep an open mind . . . I am not sure that everything on video and photos are simply persistent contrails as you say . . . I simply don't knowcoffee4

1) The persistent trails in the sky when noticed by people illicit an emotional response. . . .usually a negative almost primeval response. . . .

2) Visibility of trails though fleeting is how most people interested in the issue became fascinated by the concept or conspiracy theory . . . So even though visibility is a limited characteristic it is important and cannot be
ignored in the discussion. . . .

3) IMO, A careful investigation of the history, behavior and scientific discussions from NASA, NOAA, DoE, IPCC, International Regulatory Groups, Treaties, laws, Military tactical and Strategic capabilities and weapon systems, Geoengineering Symposia & research, etc . alone would alert someone that some type of intentional covert aerosol injection program could have
and presently exists. . . .
 Quoting: George B


And calling me a "shill"...and other things...for attempting to explain the truth isn't very helpful either. I'm not here to educate anyone about anything...THAT would be a waste of time...and has been! I'm just posting truth where paranoid nutcases post their beliefs....because the truth is just that important. Regardless of whether or not chemtards are able to recognize it. Those who have been sent to this site by the chemtards may appreciate what I post.

I have an open mind...Just because I don't accept "chemtrails" as truth...doesn't mean I'm not open to new ideas! It's just that there is NO EVIDENCE to support this nonsense...and much evidence to support the fact that these people are uneducated.

I have never said that "everything in these videos are persistent contrails". I have said that there is NO EVIDENCE that they are anything more. There is quite a difference!

1) Primeval...or primitive?

2) But, making assumptions about what one sees...without the benefit of education in these subjects...is stupid. Then, in an attempt to educate themselves, they find like minded (also uneducated) conspiracy nuts and accept everything they say/write as truth/fact. It's ridiculous! They don't even TRY to seek those who are actually educated in these subjects? Why?! Because they don't TRUST them! Why? Because they have been "educated" by the mainstream...and they are brainwashed...and are part of the deception...

One cant invent better comedy!

3) Your opinion? Noted...

And immediately attributed to your paranoia and propensity to accept conspiracy theories as truth.
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Or, you are failing to properly communicate your beliefs. What I see is people are posting images of long lasting trails which they refer to as "chemtrails" and short lived trails, which they refer to as "ordinary contrails"....and I never see you try to help. Yes, these things are aerosols...just as the billions and billions of other sources of aerosols which you cant prove are intentional.

And these trails have a name...and chemtards are calling them something else...which makes them WRONG! It's not about what I call them, it''s what they ARE!~ They have always been, and always will be...CONTRAILS...regardless of what paranoid losers call them...or what they believe their purpose to be. Why do you refuse to help them? Oh yeah...because you "believe" that contrails are a subset of "chemtrails". Convenient...even though you perfectly explained above how these trails of water vapor behave...with or without the added sulfur you claim to be in them...

crazy

It's up to you to provide evidence of intent...and you have failed...over and over again.

Just because they don't see the benefit VS cost doesn't mean it's a concious decision to place the aerosols into the air.

And what about the AWAC contrail over the UK, didn't you spend days on the fact that it was visible?! I love how you flip-flop back in forth on the
importance of whether or not the visibility matters.
 Quoting: Noble

Noble, it takes time for people to understand the complexities of atmospheric concepts. . . .you have said so your self. . . .but by calling people idiots, etc is not the way to accomplish an education. . . . or change of understanding . . . I also don't know what other people know or have witnessed . . . so unlike you I keep an open mind . . . I am not sure that everything on video and photos are simply persistent contrails as you say . . . I simply don't knowcoffee4

1) The persistent trails in the sky when noticed by people illicit an emotional response. . . .usually a negative almost primeval response. . . .

2) Visibility of trails though fleeting is how most people interested in the
issue became fascinated by the concept or conspiracy theory . . . So even though visibility is a limited characteristic it is important and cannot be
ignored in the discussion. . . .

3) IMO, A careful investigation of the history, behavior and scientific discussions from NASA, NOAA, DoE, IPCC, International Regulatory Groups, Treaties, laws, Military tactical and Strategic capabilities and weapon systems, Geoengineering Symposia & research, etc . alone would alert someone that some type of intentional covert aerosol injection program could have
and presently exists. . . .
 Quoting: George B


And calling me a "shill"...and other things...for attempting to explain the truth isn't very helpful either. I'm not here to educate anyone about anything...THAT would be a waste of time...and has been! I'm just posting
truth where paranoid nutcases post their beliefs....because the truth is just that important. Regardless of whether or not chemtards are able to recognize it. Those who have been sent to this site by the chemtards may appreciate what I post.

I have an open mind...Just because I don't accept "chemtrails" as truth...doesn't mean I'm not open to new ideas! It's just that there is NO EVIDENCE to support this nonsense...and much evidence to support the fact that these people are uneducated.

I have never said that "everything in these videos are persistent contrails". I have said that there is NO EVIDENCE that they are anything more.
There is quite a difference!

1) Primeval...or primitive?

2) But, making assumptions about what one sees...without the benefit of education in these subjects...is stupid. Then, in an attempt to educate themselves, they find like minded (also uneducated) conspiracy nuts and accept everything they say/write as truth/fact. It's ridiculous! They don't even TRY to seek those who are actually educated in these subjects? Why?! Because they don't TRUST them! Why? Because they have been
"educated" by the mainstream...and they are brainwashed...and are part of the deception...

One cant invent better comedy!

3) Your opinion? Noted...

And immediately attributed to your paranoia and propensity to accept conspiracy theories as truth.
 Quoting: Noble


1) Primeval...or primitive?
 Quoting: Noble


Either would be correct in my opinion. . . . coffee4

2) But, making assumptions about what one sees...without the benefit of education in these subjects...is stupid. Then, in an attempt to educate themselves, they find like minded (also uneducated) conspiracy nuts and
accept everything they say/write as truth/fact. It's ridiculous! They don't even TRY to seek those who are actually educated in these subjects? Why?! Because they don't TRUST them! Why? Because they have been
"educated" by the mainstream...and they are brainwashed...and are part of the deception...

 Quoting: Noble

People will seek what they can understand. . . .the "experts" have been awful about communicating their side of the issue . . . .have sometimes been dismissive and condescending, like you, in their explanations . . .
they are reaping what they have sowed . . .

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Am I to understand that you don't think you can tell the difference between a contrail and "chemtrail" just by looking at them? And you understand the variables which change the behavior of the visible trails in the sky?!

Wow, you chemtards are finally understanding what contrails are...

Congratulations!


Now, if you could only provide even the slightest evidence that "chemtrails" exist...

Good Luck!
 Quoting: Noble

It is a waste of time and money. . . .since they are basically the same thing. . .except for possibly a rare dedicated flight . . . The chance to catch that flight would be like finding a needle in an ocean. . . peace
 Quoting: George B


What's a waste of time and money?

And no, contrails aren't "chemtrails" any more than the exhaust from my
car is "chemtrails"...

When things already have a name...you are NOT qualified to change the name. If you think contrails are polluting or are part of an intentional aerosol program...they are STILL contrails regardless. Sorry!

And there is NO EVIDENCE that anything is being deposited into the atmosphere through any "flight". It could be dedicated balloons...or blimps, or done through some secret space plane that NASA has...or any number of other devices...if its actually happening. You have NO EVIDENCE that any airplane is involved whatsoever.

 Quoting: Noble


I am just as qualified as anyone else to change the name or definition of a word or concept . . . Either people accept what I present or reject it. . . That is the way it works. . . .do you think words have only one meaning and never change. . . .???? They change all the time. . . .especially when they don't properly describe a seed change in a concept or meaning when new data or understanding is uncovered. . . .coffee4


You can yell all you want . . . It is the people who ultimately decide by their use of a word what meaning it will or will not have and not
necessarily the experts . . . LoL!!!!!
 Quoting: George B


George, you are arguing with a blind fool. LOL He's so smitten with himself and his disinfo knowledge that's he's a huge help to the information that you and others are getting out to us and it's great!

The more I read on this thread, the more apparent the chemtrails are for real. Not to mention just looking up at these weird skies. That is the most damning proof to those of us who are not "A-vee-a-tion" (hee-hee =N) enthusiasts. But it's not rocket science to see the huge changes in the atmosphere and read up on why it is the way it looks.

It is......what it is. The evidence is abundant!!!
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Or, you are failing to properly communicate your beliefs. What I see is people are posting images of long lasting trails which they refer to as "chemtrails" and short lived trails, which they refer to as "ordinary contrails"....and I never see you try to help. Yes, these things are aerosols...just as the billions and billions of other sources of aerosols which you cant prove are intentional.

And these trails have a name...and chemtards are calling them something else...which makes them WRONG! It's not about what I call them, it''s what they ARE!~ They have always been, and always will be...CONTRAILS...regardless of what paranoid losers call them...or what they believe their purpose to be. Why do you refuse to help them? Oh yeah...because you "believe" that contrails are a subset of "chemtrails". Convenient...even though you perfectly explained above how these trails of water vapor behave...with or without the added sulfur you claim to be in them...

crazy

It's up to you to provide evidence of intent...and you have failed...over and over again.

Just because they don't see the benefit VS cost doesn't mean it's a concious decision to place the aerosols into the air.

And what about the AWAC contrail over the UK, didn't you spend days on the fact that it was visible?! I love how you flip-flop back in forth on the
importance of whether or not the visibility matters.
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Noble, it takes time for people to understand the complexities of atmospheric concepts. . . .you have said so your self. . . .but by calling people idiots, etc is not the way to accomplish an education. . . . or change of understanding . . . I also don't know what other people know or have witnessed . . . so unlike you I keep an open mind . . . I am not sure that everything on video and photos are simply persistent contrails as you say . . . I simply don't knowcoffee4

1) The persistent trails in the sky when noticed by people illicit an emotional response. . . .usually a negative almost primeval response. . . .

2) Visibility of trails though fleeting is how most people interested in the
issue became fascinated by the concept or conspiracy theory . . . So even though visibility is a limited characteristic it is important and cannot be
ignored in the discussion. . . .

3) IMO, A careful investigation of the history, behavior and scientific discussions from NASA, NOAA, DoE, IPCC, International Regulatory Groups, Treaties, laws, Military tactical and Strategic capabilities and weapon systems, Geoengineering Symposia & research, etc . alone would alert someone that some type of intentional covert aerosol injection program could have
and presently exists. . . .
 Quoting: George B


And calling me a "shill"...and other things...for attempting to explain the truth isn't very helpful either. I'm not here to educate anyone about anything...THAT would be a waste of time...and has been! I'm just posting
truth where paranoid nutcases post their beliefs....because the truth is just that important. Regardless of whether or not chemtards are able to recognize it. Those who have been sent to this site by the chemtards may appreciate what I post.

I have an open mind...Just because I don't accept "chemtrails" as truth...doesn't mean I'm not open to new ideas! It's just that there is NO EVIDENCE to support this nonsense...and much evidence to support the fact that these people are uneducated.

I have never said that "everything in these videos are persistent contrails". I have said that there is NO EVIDENCE that they are anything more.
There is quite a difference!

1) Primeval...or primitive?

2) But, making assumptions about what one sees...without the benefit of education in these subjects...is stupid. Then, in an attempt to educate themselves, they find like minded (also uneducated) conspiracy nuts and accept everything they say/write as truth/fact. It's ridiculous! They don't even TRY to seek those who are actually educated in these subjects? Why?! Because they don't TRUST them! Why? Because they have been
"educated" by the mainstream...and they are brainwashed...and are part of the deception...

One cant invent better comedy!

3) Your opinion? Noted...

And immediately attributed to your paranoia and propensity to accept conspiracy theories as truth.
 Quoting: Noble


1) Primeval...or primitive?
 Quoting: Noble


Either would be correct in my opinion. . . . coffee4

2) But, making assumptions about what one sees...without the benefit of education in these subjects...is stupid. Then, in an attempt to educate themselves, they find like minded (also uneducated) conspiracy nuts and
accept everything they say/write as truth/fact. It's ridiculous! They don't even TRY to seek those who are actually educated in these subjects? Why?! Because they don't TRUST them! Why? Because they have been
"educated" by the mainstream...and they are brainwashed...and are part of the deception...

 Quoting: Noble

People will seek what they can understand. . . .the "experts" have been awful about communicating their side of the issue . . . .have sometimes been dismissive and condescending, like you, in their explanations . . .
they are reaping what they have sowed . . .
 Quoting: George B


Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
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It is a waste of time and money. . . .since they are basically the same thing. . .except for possibly a rare dedicated flight . . . The chance to catch that flight would be like finding a needle in an ocean. . . peace
 Quoting: George B


What's a waste of time and money?

And no, contrails aren't "chemtrails" any more than the exhaust from my
car is "chemtrails"...

When things already have a name...you are NOT qualified to change the name. If you think contrails are polluting or are part of an intentional aerosol program...they are STILL contrails regardless. Sorry!

And there is NO EVIDENCE that anything is being deposited into the atmosphere through any "flight". It could be dedicated balloons...or blimps, or done through some secret space plane that NASA has...or any number of other devices...if its actually happening. You have NO EVIDENCE that any airplane is involved whatsoever.

 Quoting: Noble


I am just as qualified as anyone else to change the name or definition of a word or concept . . . Either people accept what I present or reject it. . . That is the way it works. . . .do you think words have only one meaning and never change. . . .???? They change all the time. . . .especially when they don't properly describe a seed change in a concept or meaning when new data or understanding is uncovered. . . .coffee4


You can yell all you want . . . It is the people who ultimately decide by their use of a word what meaning it will or will not have and not
necessarily the experts . . . LoL!!!!!
 Quoting: George B


George, you are arguing with a blind fool. LOL He's so smitten with himself and his disinfo knowledge that's he's a huge help to the information that you and others are getting out to us and it's great!

The more I read on this thread, the more apparent the chemtrails are for real. Not to mention just looking up at these weird skies. That is the most damning proof to those of us who are not "A-vee-a-tion" (hee-hee =N) enthusiasts. But it's not rocket science to see the huge changes in the atmosphere and read up on why it is the way it looks.

It is......what it is. The evidence is abundant!!!
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I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.

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George, you are arguing with a blind fool. LOL He's so smitten with himself and his disinfo knowledge that's he's a huge help to the information that you and others are getting out to us and it's great!

The more I read on this thread, the more apparent the chemtrails are for real. Not to mention just looking up at these weird skies. That is the most damning proof to those of us who are not "A-vee-a-tion" (hee-hee =N) enthusiasts. But it's not rocket science to see the huge changes in the atmosphere and read up on why it is the way it looks.

It is......what it is. The evidence is abundant!!!
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Thanks for your comment. . . .I have had a similar reaction. . . .the more I understand the issues and atmospheric concepts, the more I feel it is possible to conduct a covert aerosol injection program without interference. . . .the appearance and data coming from all over the world tends to indicate possible trends which cannot be ignored . . . The sky in many populated areas is altered more frequently than before . . . And people from many walks of life are noticing it every day . . . When you turn to the experts you get plausible explanations, yet your intuition that something is wrong is still not abated . . . this along with a distrust of the authorities who have been known to have lied many times gives no comfort .

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What's a waste of time and money?

And no, contrails aren't "chemtrails" any more than the exhaust from my
car is "chemtrails"...

When things already have a name...you are NOT qualified to change the name. If you think contrails are polluting or are part of an intentional aerosol program...they are STILL contrails regardless. Sorry!

And there is NO EVIDENCE that anything is being deposited into the atmosphere through any "flight". It could be dedicated balloons...or blimps, or done through some secret space plane that NASA has...or any number of other devices...if its actually happening. You have NO EVIDENCE that any airplane is involved whatsoever.

 Quoting: Noble


I am just as qualified as anyone else to change the name or definition of a word or concept . . . Either people accept what I present or reject it. . . That is the way it works. . . .do you think words have only one meaning and never change. . . .???? They change all the time. . . .especially when they don't properly describe a seed change in a concept or meaning when new data or understanding is uncovered. . . .coffee4


You can yell all you want . . . It is the people who ultimately decide by their use of a word what meaning it will or will not have and not
necessarily the experts . . . LoL!!!!!
 Quoting: George B


George, you are arguing with a blind fool. LOL He's so smitten with himself and his disinfo knowledge that's he's a huge help to the information that you and others are getting out to us and it's great!

The more I read on this thread, the more apparent the chemtrails are for real. Not to mention just looking up at these weird skies. That is the most damning proof to those of us who are not "A-vee-a-tion" (hee-hee =N) enthusiasts. But it's not rocket science to see the huge changes in the atmosphere and read up on why it is the way it looks.

It is......what it is. The evidence is abundant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.
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You have no case. What you have is your delusional concept of persistent contrails and contard science.
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I am just as qualified as anyone else to change the name or definition of a word or concept . . . Either people accept what I present or reject it. . . That is the way it works. . . .do you think words have only one meaning and never change. . . .???? They change all the time. . . .especially when they don't properly describe a seed change in a concept or meaning when new data or understanding is uncovered. . . .coffee4


You can yell all you want . . . It is the people who ultimately decide by their use of a word what meaning it will or will not have and not
necessarily the experts . . . LoL!!!!!
 Quoting: George B


George, you are arguing with a blind fool. LOL He's so smitten with himself and his disinfo knowledge that's he's a huge help to the information that you and others are getting out to us and it's great!

The more I read on this thread, the more apparent the chemtrails are for real. Not to mention just looking up at these weird skies. That is the most damning proof to those of us who are not "A-vee-a-tion" (hee-hee =N) enthusiasts. But it's not rocket science to see the huge changes in the atmosphere and read up on why it is the way it looks.

It is......what it is. The evidence is abundant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.
 Quoting: Noble


You have no case. What you have is your delusional concept of persistent contrails and contard science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


LOL!!!!

George, do you agree with that statement?

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Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
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Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .

It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
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I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.
 Quoting: Noble


You have no case. What you have is your delusional concept of persistent contrails and contard science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


LOL!!!!

George, do you agree with that statement?
 Quoting: Noble


I wouldn't say you have no case . . . I would say . . . In spite of the evidence you have presented . . . Which is the majority opinion, especially of the authorities . . . I still hold fast to the conclusion . . . the existence of an intentional covert aerosol injection program is high . . . So high, in fact, I would publicly argue for that conclusion . . . coffee4

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Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
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Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .

It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
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LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10 times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
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I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.
 Quoting: Noble


You have no case. What you have is your delusional concept of persistent contrails and contard science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


LOL!!!!

George, do you agree with that statement?
 Quoting: Noble


I wouldn't say you have no case . . . I would say . . . In spite of the evidence you have presented . . . Which is the majority opinion, especially of the authorities . . . I still hold fast to the conclusion . . . the existence of an intentional covert aerosol injection program is high . . . So high, in fact, I would publicly argue for that conclusion . . . coffee4
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Which you do...

and I appreciate the comedy.

Thanks.
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Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
 Quoting: Noble


Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .

It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10 times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
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The length of your thread here proves the argument is not quite so easy.

You're still a failure with your argument.

Disinfo Agents.....government......covert.....you're the true losers. Bullshit covering lies.

You crack me up. You'll always be riding the short bus, Snake/Noble
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Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
 Quoting: Noble


Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .

It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10 times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


The length of your thread here proves the argument is not quite so easy.

You're still a failure with your argument.

Disinfo Agents.....government......covert.....you're the true losers. Bullshit covering lies.

You crack me up. You'll always be riding the short bus, Snake/Noble
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The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
 Quoting: Noble


Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .


It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10
times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?
! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY
imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


It is their burden if they wish to change the minds of chemtrail advocates . . . grinning

Intuitive or imaginative . . . Whatever you wish to call it is fine with me . . .
verycool
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
I rest my case....

"weird skies" = "chemtrails"..

Yup...a chemtard said it..it must be true...no evidence required.
 Quoting: Noble


You have no case. What you have is your delusional concept of persistent contrails and contard science.
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LOL!!!!

George, do you agree with that statement?
 Quoting: Noble


I wouldn't say you have no case . . . I would say . . . In spite of the evidence you have presented . . . Which is the majority opinion, especially of the authorities . . . I still hold fast to the conclusion . . . the existence of an intentional covert aerosol injection program is high . . . So high, in fact, I would publicly argue for that conclusion . . . coffee4
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Which you do...

and I appreciate the comedy.

Thanks.
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You are welcome . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Conspiracy nuts add a paranoia element to all of that. These people ARE different in their thought processing. The "experts" have done a FANTASTIC job of communicating the truth! Yet, when one looks at the videos online, the conspiracy nuts just shout them down! Look at the comments of videos which come from the science side of things.

I forget where I saw it, but there is one video in particular where a scientist is being accosted by a group of chemtards on a sidewalk somewhere...the chemtards in the video shoot every single fact down because they have been "educated" (conditioned) by like minded morons to only accept "chemtrails" as the answer...no matter HOW obvious it is that they know nothing about science and aviation. It's hilarious because it's so pathetic.

As long as I'm accused of horrific things such as being a "shill" and cointel...and such...I WILL continue to point out that these people are as paranoid as they are ignorant.
 Quoting: Noble


Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .


It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10
times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?
! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY
imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


It is their burden if they wish to change the minds of chemtrail advocates . . . grinning

Intuitive or imaginative . . . Whatever you wish to call it is fine with me . . .
verycool
 Quoting: George B


They don't care...It's NOT their burden! chemtards try to MAKE it their burden, but the onus is on the chemtards to prove there are any such things as "chemtrails". So far, chemtards have failed to support their accusations.

I also call them "delusional". Thanks for your support.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?

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