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Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other
arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .


It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10
times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?
! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their
minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY
imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


It is their burden if they wish to change the minds of chemtrail advocates .
. . grinning

Intuitive or imaginative . . . Whatever you wish to call it is fine with me . . .
verycool
 Quoting: George B


They don't care...It's NOT their burden! chemtards try to MAKE it their burden, but the onus is on the chemtards to prove there are any such things as "chemtrails". So far, chemtards have failed to support their accusations.

I also call them "delusional". Thanks for your support.
 Quoting: Noble

Feelings are mutual . . . Chemtrail advocate think the "experts" are just too conditioned by their training, education and career restraints to think with an open mind . . . We think their inability to see common sense is delusional as well . . . goodnews

Last Edited by George B on 06/25/2012 12:49 PM
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Chemtrail History and Information - Alan Watt [Full]



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LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10
times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?
! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their
minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY
imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


It is their burden if they wish to change the minds of chemtrail advocates .
. . grinning

Intuitive or imaginative . . . Whatever you wish to call it is fine with me . . .
verycool
 Quoting: George B


They don't care...It's NOT their burden! chemtards try to MAKE it their burden, but the onus is on the chemtards to prove there are any such things as "chemtrails". So far, chemtards have failed to support their accusations.

I also call them "delusional". Thanks for your support.
 Quoting: Noble

Feelings are mutual . . . Chemtrail advocate think the "experts" are just too conditioned by their training, education and career restraints to think with an open mind . . . We think their inability to see common sense is delusional as well . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Wow, a chemtard video...

Impressive!

LOL!!!
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It is their burden if they wish to change the minds of chemtrail advocates .
. . grinning

Intuitive or imaginative . . . Whatever you wish to call it is fine with me . . .
verycool
 Quoting: George B


They don't care...It's NOT their burden! chemtards try to MAKE it their burden, but the onus is on the chemtards to prove there are any such things as "chemtrails". So far, chemtards have failed to support their accusations.

I also call them "delusional". Thanks for your support.
 Quoting: Noble


Feelings are mutual . . . Chemtrail advocate think the "experts" are just too conditioned by their training, education and career restraints to think with an open mind . . . We think their inability to see common sense is delusional as well . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you
people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That
one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
 Quoting: Noble


I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Conspiracies by their nature are difficult to suppress or argue against because at their foundation is the belief that information has and is being intentionally withheld . . .

Those who are the experts are intelligent enough or should be intelligent enough to understand that . . . Therefore, if they wish to quell a conspiracy they feel is wrong . . . it takes ten times the effort other arguments require . . . IMO, They have not done so . . .

It is true people who believe in conspiracies in general are more intuitive than others who rely on concrete, verifiable, evidence . . . However, this doesn't make them wrong . . . it makes them more difficult to argue with . . . lolsign
 Quoting: George B


LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10 times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


The length of your thread here proves the argument is not quite so easy.

You're still a failure with your argument.

Disinfo Agents.....government......covert.....you're the true losers. Bullshit covering lies.

You crack me up. You'll always be riding the short bus, Snake/Noble
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The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
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Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.
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They don't care...It's NOT their burden! chemtards try to MAKE it their burden, but the onus is on the chemtards to prove there are any such things as "chemtrails". So far, chemtards have failed to support their accusations.

I also call them "delusional". Thanks for your support.
 Quoting: Noble


Feelings are mutual . . . Chemtrail advocate think the "experts" are just too conditioned by their training, education and career restraints to think with an open mind . . . We think their inability to see common sense is delusional as well . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you
people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That
one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
 Quoting: Noble


I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Show me that they ARE finding anything...Don't you think such information would be shared with the world...or at least someone...anyone?!

So far...NOTHING!

And I'm talking about schools, as well as private citizens, who make the atmosphere their passion. Why have we heard NOTHING about this?

Could it be because it just isn't happening?

Last Edited by Noble on 06/25/2012 03:14 PM
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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LOL!!! You actually believe it's a REQUIREMENT for the experts to put 10 times more effort into proving chemtards wrong?! No wonder they don't try as hard as you'd like! It's just not worth the effort! In their minds, they feel the chemtards are just a bunch of online losers who are too stupid to grasp the concepts no matter how well they are explained.

And PLEASE back up that statement about how conspiracy nuts are more "intuitive". If you ask me, you are confusing the words imaginative and intuitive! Ill give the chemtards this...they are CERTAINLY imaginative...just as Chicken Little and Don Quixote. That DOESN'T make them right!


They aren't "difficult" to argue with..they are hilarious to argue with!
 Quoting: Noble


The length of your thread here proves the argument is not quite so easy.

You're still a failure with your argument.

Disinfo Agents.....government......covert.....you're the true losers. Bullshit covering lies.

You crack me up. You'll always be riding the short bus, Snake/Noble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
 Quoting: Noble



Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462



Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you
people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That
one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
 Quoting: Noble


I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Show me that they ARE finding anything...Don't you think such information would be shared with the world...or at least someone...anyone?!

So far...NOTHING!











And I'm talking about schools, as well as private citizens, who make the atmosphere their passion. Why have we heard NOTHING about this?

Could it be because it just isn't happening?
 Quoting: Noble


If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you
people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That
one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
 Quoting: Noble


I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Show me that they ARE finding anything...Don't you think such information would be shared with the world...or at least someone...anyone?!

So far...NOTHING!











And I'm talking about schools, as well as private citizens, who make the atmosphere their passion. Why have we heard NOTHING about this?

Could it be because it just isn't happening?
 Quoting: Noble


If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B



So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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You DO know there are schools which sample the atmosphere quite often...and aren't finding any evidence to support the chemtard claims...don't you? Again, the onus is on the chemtards...even though you
people refuse to accept that fact.


Have the chemtards sampled trails/the atmosphere? Or do they just make assumptions. Don't answer...it was rhetorical.

The only thing I have seen the chemtards do is sample soil/water/air at ground level, and jump to conclusions based on their ignorance about geology and their atmosphere.

When will the chemtards give us something more to laugh about? That
one is getting kinda old..

Oh well...let the hilarity continue!
 Quoting: Noble


I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Show me that they ARE finding anything...Don't you think such information would be shared with the world...or at least someone...anyone?!

So far...NOTHING!


And I'm talking about schools, as well as private citizens, who make the atmosphere their passion. Why have we heard NOTHING about this?

Could it be because it just isn't happening?
 Quoting: Noble


If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B



So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!
 Quoting: Noble


So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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I have never come across any of the findings you are referring about . . Show us . . . I would love to see what they have recorded. . . LINK!!!!
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Show me that they ARE finding anything...Don't you think such information would be shared with the world...or at least someone...anyone?!

So far...NOTHING!


And I'm talking about schools, as well as private citizens, who make the atmosphere their passion. Why have we heard NOTHING about this?

Could it be because it just isn't happening?
 Quoting: Noble


If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
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So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!
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So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
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Look it up...stupid.
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If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
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So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!


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So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
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Look it up...stupid.
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You brought it up. . . .I am not going to do your work for you . . . Grow up Noble. . . . huffy
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!


 Quoting: Noble


So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
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Look it up...stupid.
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You brought it up. . . .I am not going to do your work for you . . . Grow up Noble. . . . huffy
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If they are finding NOTHING. . . .why not publish it so all can see their data. .I would love to see it. . . .in Science. . ..negative results are as important as positive results. . ..are they not . . .Noble? . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B



So, you want them to publish the fact that they have found nothing?!

Should they also publish the fact that they haven't found flying unicorns or Dracula up there also?!

Why would they publish negative results? To make chemtards happy?!

LOL!! Like THAT could ever happen!
 Quoting: Noble


So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
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Look it up...stupid.
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So, are you suggesting that atmospheric mass-spectrometry isn't being performed all around the world by people who are much more intelligent/educated than you are?

Again, look it up.

Stop using your google powers to spread paranoid ignorance...do something useful.
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[link to cires.colorado.edu]

Lots of info...lots of links...feel free to contact these people and ask some questions...

Or, remain paranoid chemtards...
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So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
. goaway
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Look it up...stupid.
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So, are you suggesting that atmospheric mass-spectrometry isn't being performed all around the world by people who are much more intelligent/educated than you are?

Again, look it up.

Stop using your google powers to spread paranoid ignorance...do something useful.
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Hmmmm. . . .when I used mass-spectrometry . . . It was very labor intensive and expensive and difficult to quantify, identify a substance was decent if one had perfect standards and controls . . .I know it has been a few years but I doubt that has completely changed. . . .

According to the cited literature. . . .see below . . .it hasn't changed that much. . . .one mission each year. . . .that is going to be impressive. . .
.alien11


[link to www.uni-leipzig.de]

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So we have NOTHING but your word Noble that these schools have been testing but getting NOTHING . . .Thanks. . . .just like the other non evidence you have been sharing for months. . . .it is best you say . . .. . . NOTHING because that is all you have presented . .
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Look it up...stupid.
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So, are you suggesting that atmospheric mass-spectrometry isn't being performed all around the world by people who are much more intelligent/educated than you are?

Again, look it up.

Stop using your google powers to spread paranoid ignorance...do something useful.
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Hmmmm. . . .when I used mass-spectrometry . . . It was very labor intensive and expensive and difficult to quantify, identify a substance was decent if one had perfect standards and controls . . .I know it has been a few years but I doubt that has completely changed. . . .

According to the cited literature. . . .see below . . .it hasn't changed that much. . . .one mission each year. . . .that is going to be impressive. . .
.alien11


[link to www.uni-leipzig.de]

Second paragraph page 244 
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Bullshit.

I don't believe for a second that you have any experience with ATMOSPHERIC mass spectrometry. And if there were anything to worry about, as far as aerosols, these people would have found it...somewhere in the world.


There are only MILLIONS of people working with devices...all around the world....YOU, are not.


I have to wonder why you are trying to discredit the science...oh, to further the spread of your particular brand of ignorance..im sure.


Stop pretending that you understand what these people do...you're a chemtard...you don't know shit.
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Interesting Noble. . . .in the MIT research below they didn't even measure the substances they only estimated them from fuel consumption. . . .surely if it were so easy they would have measured them or got their data from some reliable source. . . .don't you think??????

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)


Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amount of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights. He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death.
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Interesting Noble. . . .in the MIT research below they didn't even measure the substances they only estimated them from fuel consumption. . . .surely if it were so easy they would have measured them or got their data from some reliable source. . . .don't you think??????

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)


Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amount of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights. He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death.
 Quoting: George B


So? How does this have anything to do with all the other scientists who are studying the atmosphere?! Why focus on those studying emissions...and not those studying the atmosphere itself?

How is focusing on those who aren't studying the atmosphere in a way that meets your approval evidence that others aren't?!

Sorry, if there were anything in the air...we'd know about it.

Keep using those google powers to the least of your abilities...stupid loser...
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Interesting Noble. . . .in the MIT research below they didn't even measure the substances they only estimated them from fuel consumption. . . .surely if it were so easy they would have measured them or got their data from some reliable source. . . .don't you think??????

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)


Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a
computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amo
nut of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights.
He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death.
 Quoting: George B


So? How does this have anything to do with all the other scientists who are studying the atmosphere?! Why focus on those studying emissions...and not those studying the atmosphere itself?

How is focusing on those who aren't studying the atmosphere in a way that meets your approval evidence that others aren't?!

Sorry, if there were anything in the air...we'd know about it.

Keep using those google powers to the least of your abilities...stupid loser...
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Noble, I have more than made my point . .. the ball they say is in your court . . . grinning


"These particles are also called “aerosols," and the new paper explores their recent climate effects -- the reasons behind their increase remain the subject of ongoing research."

[link to www.noaanews.noaa.gov]

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Interesting Noble. . . .in the MIT research below they didn't even measure the substances they only estimated them from fuel consumption. . . .surely if it were so easy they would have measured them or got their data from some reliable source. . . .don't you think??????

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)


Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a
computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amo
nut of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights.
He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death.
 Quoting: George B


So? How does this have anything to do with all the other scientists who are studying the atmosphere?! Why focus on those studying emissions...and not those studying the atmosphere itself?

How is focusing on those who aren't studying the atmosphere in a way that meets your approval evidence that others aren't?!

Sorry, if there were anything in the air...we'd know about it.

Keep using those google powers to the least of your abilities...stupid loser...
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Noble, I have more than made my point . .. the ball they say is in your court . . . grinning


"These particles are also called “aerosols," and the new paper explores their recent climate effects -- the reasons behind their increase remain the subject of ongoing research."

[link to www.noaanews.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: George B


And aerosols are both man made and natural...with no evidence of any of it being intentional. The ball is always in your court... And you continue to fail. Just because they hadn't pinpointed a source..doesn't meant there is an intentional aerosol program...sorry.
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The length of your thread here proves the argument is not quite so easy.

You're still a failure with your argument.

Disinfo Agents.....government......covert.....you're the true losers. Bullshit covering lies.

You crack me up. You'll always be riding the short bus, Snake/Noble
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The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
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Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.

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Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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I would say that your education is minimal at the least and you are full of it.

You miss the distinction, because of your limited reading comprehension. You are so busy twisting and evading that you make no since.

Please don't try to pass on your limited knowledge and mislead people, "conturd".

And someone (you) who relies on "google" as their own bible should keep their opinions to themselves when criticizing other people. That's called "hypocrisy", you simple ass.
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The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
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Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462



Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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I would say that your education is minimal at the least and you are full of it.

You miss the distinction, because of your limited reading comprehension. You are so busy twisting and evading that you make no since.

Please don't try to pass on your limited knowledge and mislead people, "conturd".

And someone (you) who relies on "google" as their own bible should keep their opinions to themselves when criticizing other people. That's called "hypocrisy", you simple ass.
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Yeah...the chemtard says I "Make no since"....fucking idiot...


Sorry, I don't use google to quote conspiracy sites..stupid.
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Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.

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Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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I would say that your education is minimal at the least and you are full of it.

You miss the distinction, because of your limited reading comprehension. You are so busy twisting and evading that you make no since.

Please don't try to pass on your limited knowledge and mislead people, "conturd".

And someone (you) who relies on "google" as their own bible should keep their opinions to themselves when criticizing other people. That's called "hypocrisy", you simple ass.
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Yeah...the chemtard says I "Make no since"....fucking idiot...


Sorry, I don't use google to quote conspiracy sites..stupid.
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Chuckles...................................
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Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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I would say that your education is minimal at the least and you are full of it.

You miss the distinction, because of your limited reading comprehension. You are so busy twisting and evading that you make no since.

Please don't try to pass on your limited knowledge and mislead people, "conturd".

And someone (you) who relies on "google" as their own bible should keep their opinions to themselves when criticizing other people. That's called "hypocrisy", you simple ass.
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Yeah...the chemtard says I "Make no since"....fucking idiot...


Sorry, I don't use google to quote conspiracy sites..stupid.
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Chuckles...................................
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The word is "sense", stupid.

Please sue your school system. You have an excellent case. Not only do you fail to understand basic science, your English is terrible.
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The only reason you refer to me as a "failure with my argument" is because YOU are too stupid to understand it.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. There is no evidence that anything found in the sky, or on the ground, has been intentionally introduced into the atmosphere as part of any "aerosol program". You believe it...because you WANT to believe it....because you are a paranoid loser.

That isn't to say that it's not happening, just that the "evidence" provided so far is extremely lacking.

And there is no evidence that you are anything more than an uneducated paranoid moron.

Please continue providing me with laughter.
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Evidence is not lacking. You've been prevented with plenty.

If anyone is paranoid and uneducated, that would be you. The evidence of your ignorance is your double talk. You keep saying there is no evidence but, it could be happening.
Now that's hilarious. That's like saying emphatically "There is not!" Then you say, "but there could be"

You sound like an idiot.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462



Sorry...So far, what has been presented as evidence, has been nothing but the chemtard ignorance about aviation, atmospheric science and geology...not to mention basic science.

I AM educated in these subjects...much more so than any chemtard I have met. You wouldn't know...because you are an idiot.

There is no evidence...but it "could be" happening. How is that a contradiction?!

It's hilarious that you don't understand the distinction...yet you try to insult ME because YOU are ignorant. I have NEVER said "there is not"...stupid! I have said, I don't believe it's happening, because the evidence presented is only evidence of the ignorance of the chemtards.

get it...stupid?
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I would say that your education is minimal at the least and you are full of it.

You miss the distinction, because of your limited reading comprehension. You are so busy twisting and evading that you make no since.

Please don't try to pass on your limited knowledge and mislead people, "conturd".

And someone (you) who relies on "google" as their own bible should keep their opinions to themselves when criticizing other people. That's called "hypocrisy", you simple ass.
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My education is ..."minimal at the least" huh?

LOL! And yours is minimal, at the most.

I'm full of it? Seems I'm full of knowledge that you're not exposed to on the conspiracy sites...or in school.


I understand the distinction just fine...you miss it...because you are stupid.

I have yet to try to mislead anyone about anything...I leave that up to you ignorant chemtards.

I certainly don't rely on google. There are no filters to separate fiction from non fiction. Which is why you chemtards are so confused.
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Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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My education is ..."minimal at the least" huh?

LOL! And yours is minimal, at the most.

I'm full of it? Seems I'm full of knowledge that you're not exposed to on the conspiracy sites...or in school.


I understand the distinction just fine...you miss it...because you are stupid.

I have yet to try to mislead anyone about anything...I leave that up to you ignorant chemtards.

I certainly don't rely on google. There are no filters to separate fiction from non fiction. Which is why you chemtards are so confused.
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Noble,

You have been exposed as a shallow rather uneducated individual . . . posing as an expert that you are not . . . and you would be better leaving the debate to someone who knows what they are talking about . . .I don't know about anyone else but I am through with you . . . .dead3


You add nothing but vile insults and cause people to become angry. . . You do nothing for your cause or for people seeking to understand more
except raise their blood pressure. . . .byekitty
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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My education is ..."minimal at the least" huh?

LOL! And yours is minimal, at the most.

I'm full of it? Seems I'm full of knowledge that you're not exposed to on the conspiracy sites...or in school.


I understand the distinction just fine...you miss it...because you are stupid.

I have yet to try to mislead anyone about anything...I leave that up to you ignorant chemtards.

I certainly don't rely on google. There are no filters to separate fiction from non fiction. Which is why you chemtards are so confused.
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Noble,

You have been exposed as a shallow rather uneducated individual . . . posing as an expert that you are not . . . and you would be better leaving the debate to someone who knows what they are talking about . . .I don't know about anyone else but I am through with you . . . .dead3


You add nothing but vile insults and cause people to become angry. . . You do nothing for your cause or for people seeking to understand more
except raise their blood pressure. . . .byekitty
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Ditto to that, George. He's a fake!!!!! And not a good one. byekitty
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