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How exactly do you spray 30 miles above the earth noble? What kind of apparatus is used exactly mr pilot
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Chemtrail History and Information - Alan Watt [Full]



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Where are you bigmouth? I posted some facts for you. I would like your input on this.
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Talking to me?

You merely posted that certain people are advocating for geoengineering projects. Proves nothing about your imaginary chemtrails....

Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
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THIS IS TO MURDER YOUR THREAD, Sorry I cant tollerate idiots. wake up buddy......Its real, drop it. If you dont like it then you can complain to congress about the 30 Billion dollar a year Geoengineering bill which is classified. Here ya go....

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

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GAME, SET, MATCH.

You lose Noble.

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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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This is a fail. Growing up in the central valley of California there were Never never never persistent contrails in the summer. Only PERFECTLY BLUE SKIES BETWEEN APRIL AND OCTOBER. That's all there was. That's what California was famous for. People come from all over the world to see it. But sadly those skies do not exist anymore as there are persistent contrails every day. Explain this...
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Yes, noble is off his trolley.
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OP is on TPTB's payroll, just like 1000s of other party members that stand by the "official story" on Internet forums.
Each has their own specialty topic, although it is rare to see the proactive approach. This must be a new tactic discussed in the June all staff meeting.
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Where are you bigmouth? I posted some facts for you. I would like your input on this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Talking to me?

You merely posted that certain people are advocating for geoengineering projects. Proves nothing about your imaginary chemtrails....

Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
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Yes, noble is off his trolley.
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Bahahahahahahaha. But it doesn't have wings!
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Talking to me?

You merely posted that certain people are advocating for geoengineering projects. Proves nothing about your imaginary chemtrails....

Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
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You obviously can't read, and it's a wonder you can even dress yourself in the morning.

Fucking retard.
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"Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is."

I work outside full time and have ample opportunity to observe the sky.

Residual trails are nothing more than due to moisture content present in the atmosphere from my observations over a year.

There are two bits of evidence for "chemtrails"
1) Current patents for weather modification
2) Lab results from trail samples

Otherwise go ask a pilot and they will explain the science behind a contrail for you.

A 12 +/- second trail is typical but not an absolute.
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Where are you bigmouth? I posted some facts for you. I would like your input on this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Talking to me?

You merely posted that certain people are advocating for geoengineering projects. Proves nothing about your imaginary chemtrails....

Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Again, other than assumption, what links the trails in the sky to any geoengineering program?
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"Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is."

I work outside full time and have ample opportunity to observe the sky.

Residual trails are nothing more than due to moisture content present in the atmosphere from my observations over a year.

There are two bits of evidence for "chemtrails"
1) Current patents for weather modification
2) Lab results from trail samples

Otherwise go ask a pilot and they will explain the science behind a contrail for you.

A 12 +/- second trail is typical but not an absolute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6750590


Patents don't mean that a device or process has ever been used. A patent only secures the rights to intellectual property.

Please show me a single lab result from an actual trail.

I fully understand how contrails are formed and why they often persist.

And trails can last anywhere from seconds to hours...

It all depends on the atmospheric conditions and how stable the are...over what area.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Talking to me?

You merely posted that certain people are advocating for geoengineering projects. Proves nothing about your imaginary chemtrails....

Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.

Last Edited by Noble on 06/05/2012 04:15 PM
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
 Quoting: Noble


This is a fail. Growing up in the central valley of California there were Never never never persistent contrails in the summer. Only PERFECTLY BLUE SKIES BETWEEN APRIL AND OCTOBER. That's all there was. That's what California was famous for. People come from all over the world to see it. But sadly those skies do not exist anymore as there are persistent contrails every day. Explain this...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17177008


But, what happened after the high efficiency jet engines came into use?

...and why?
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Why are you folks arguing with the OP. He will not take anything you post or say as evidence.
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"As time runs out for conventional methods such as emission reduction, scientists, backed by the likes of Bill Gates and Richard Branson, are pushing for a “plan B” which utilises geoengineering  to manipulate the environment in order to cool the atmosphere. The scientists are lobbying governments and international organisations for funds to experiment with the different approaches to geoengineering that could be used.  Methods include: fertilising the oceans to create blooms of algae and other plant life which would draw vast amounts of carbon dioxide from the air; or spraying reflective particles or chemicals into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect sunlight and heat back into space.

Geoengineering would be much cheaper than reducing emissions, and also much quicker to produce results. However it is considered controversial due to the potential risks, which need to be identified with funded research and experiments before any methods are implemented on a large scale. There is even the fear that technologies capable of altering the atmosphere of climate on a global scale could be used to create new weapons of mass destruction."
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That's great..now, where does it say the trails over my house have anything to do with any of this...and aren't just contrails?


If you have a problem with what these people are doing,..fight them...but don't lie or assume that contrails are evidence of any such project.
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Quote;


"As time runs out for conventional methods such as emission reduction, scientists, backed by the likes of Bill Gates and Richard Branson, are pushing for a “plan B” which utilises geoengineering  to manipulate the environment in order to cool the atmosphere. The scientists are lobbying governments and international organisations for funds to experiment with the different approaches to geoengineering that could be used.  Methods include: fertilising the oceans to create blooms of algae and other plant life which would draw vast amounts of carbon dioxide from the air; or spraying reflective particles or chemicals into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect sunlight and heat back into space.

Geoengineering would be much cheaper than reducing emissions, and also much quicker to produce results. However it is considered controversial due to the potential risks, which need to be identified with funded research and experiments before any methods are implemented on a large scale. There is even the fear that technologies capable of altering the atmosphere of climate on a global scale could be used to create new weapons of mass destruction."
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That's great..now, where does it say the trails over my house have anything to do with any of this...and aren't just contrails?


If you have a problem with what these people are doing,..fight them...but don't lie or assume that contrails are evidence of any such project.
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I can't speak for the skies over the rock you live under, only my own.
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Why are you folks arguing with the OP. He will not take anything you post or say as evidence.
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To argue with him is fun because he is a loser troll who can't leave it alone.
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The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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Nothing is what your grasping. You even missed the straws.
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Why are you folks arguing with the OP. He will not take anything you post or say as evidence.
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Only because none of it IS "evidence".

You people obviously don't understand the meaning of the word...and confuse evidence with paranoid assumption, speculation and jumping to conclusions
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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"As time runs out for conventional methods such as emission reduction, scientists, backed by the likes of Bill Gates and Richard Branson, are pushing for a “plan B” which utilises geoengineering  to manipulate the environment in order to cool the atmosphere. The scientists are lobbying governments and international organisations for funds to experiment with the different approaches to geoengineering that could be used.  Methods include: fertilising the oceans to create blooms of algae and other plant life which would draw vast amounts of carbon dioxide from the air; or spraying reflective particles or chemicals into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect sunlight and heat back into space.

Geoengineering would be much cheaper than reducing emissions, and also much quicker to produce results. However it is considered controversial due to the potential risks, which need to be identified with funded research and experiments before any methods are implemented on a large scale. There is even the fear that technologies capable of altering the atmosphere of climate on a global scale could be used to create new weapons of mass destruction."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


That's great..now, where does it say the trails over my house have anything to do with any of this...and aren't just contrails?


If you have a problem with what these people are doing,..fight them...but don't lie or assume that contrails are evidence of any such project.
 Quoting: Noble


Quote;


"As time runs out for conventional methods such as emission reduction, scientists, backed by the likes of Bill Gates and Richard Branson, are pushing for a “plan B” which utilises geoengineering  to manipulate the environment in order to cool the atmosphere. The scientists are lobbying governments and international organisations for funds to experiment with the different approaches to geoengineering that could be used.  Methods include: fertilising the oceans to create blooms of algae and other plant life which would draw vast amounts of carbon dioxide from the air; or spraying reflective particles or chemicals into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect sunlight and heat back into space.

Geoengineering would be much cheaper than reducing emissions, and also much quicker to produce results. However it is considered controversial due to the potential risks, which need to be identified with funded research and experiments before any methods are implemented on a large scale. There is even the fear that technologies capable of altering the atmosphere of climate on a global scale could be used to create new weapons of mass destruction."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


That's great..now, where does it say the trails over my house have anything to do with any of this...and aren't just contrails?


If you have a problem with what these people are doing,..fight them...but don't lie or assume that contrails are evidence of any such project.
 Quoting: Noble


I can't speak for the skies over the rock you live under, only my own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Ok, fine...do so...show me the evidence that the trails over your rock have anything to do with geoengineering...without making any assumptions.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

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The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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The problem is that you keep trying to convince everyone that "you" are the only reputable source and only you are correct. I would trust this site over a douche like you any day fucktard.
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Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17425493


It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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Nothing is what your grasping. You even missed the straws.
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So, you refuse..I figured as much.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
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You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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Nothing is what your grasping. You even missed the straws.
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So, you refuse..I figured as much.
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Nope, just keeping an asshole in suspense. Bada bing!
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Proof that this is happening, and that these are your imaginary chemtrails?

Oh, wait, once again, you have none.

You got your ass handed to you.

Go cry to mommy. Stupid chemtard.
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It's from the news you idiot. The Guardian Uk to be exact. But there are several others if you care to look which I know you won't fool. No one handed me anything except a free pass to slap you around like the bitch that you are. I do not have a mom, me and my dad use yours and shes not that good.
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You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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The problem is that you keep trying to convince everyone that "you" are the only reputable source and only you are correct. I would trust this site over a douche like you any day fucktard.
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I do no such thing. I ask for evidence that the trails in the sky have anything to do with geoengineering...and you people refuse to provide it.

I don't claim that I'm correct... I only claim that chemtards make statements of fact...without providing any evidence that they are correct.

Of course you don't trust me...I disagree with your story...in your pathetic mind, I'm the enemy for doing so.

But, all I ask is that people back up their claims...and you losers keep failing to do so.

Don't blame me for that...
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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You actually believe that The Guardian is any better than The Star or National Enquirer?!

You actually beleive it's "news"?!

laugh


Please show me a REPUTABLE source.

Also, show me where the Guardian said the trails we all see have anything to do witha geoengineering program.
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Nothing is what your grasping. You even missed the straws.
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So, you refuse..I figured as much.
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Nope, just keeping an asshole in suspense. Bada bing!
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I'm not in suspense...I know that the info I asked for doesn't exist.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

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Nothing is what your grasping. You even missed the straws.
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So, you refuse..I figured as much.
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Nope, just keeping an asshole in suspense. Bada bing!
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I'm not in suspense...I know that the info I asked for doesn't exist.
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Only in your feeble little mind.
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How do you get tonnes of particulate into the atomosphere?
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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This is a fail. Growing up in the central valley of California there were Never never never persistent contrails in the summer. Only PERFECTLY BLUE SKIES BETWEEN APRIL AND OCTOBER. That's all there was. That's what California was famous for. People come from all over the world to see it. But sadly those skies do not exist anymore as there are persistent contrails every day. Explain this...
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Very good point. I live in a VERY VERY small area, watched the skies all the time for 15+ years. I've never once seen anything like what I see in the skies today up until 2 almost 3 years ago. I live literally right next door to famous desert country the "San Rafael Swell" in Utah. I do acknowledge air traffic routes, In fact there is one right over my place of work. That doesnt account for the weeks at a time not seeing a clear sky or "Normal" cloud, oh but youll see aircraft making "contrails" all day. Then EVERY clear day, which is rare, I see MAYBE 5 aircraft which is normal compared to how things used to be. SOMETHING is a miss.
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol

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