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Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

 
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Furthermore op, people like you are not going to make it. You are either too stupid or too sold out. Either way, you dont have what it takes pal.
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
chemtrails and persistent contrails are the same thing

how are clouds formed?

water vapor and dust particulates

how are persistent contrails formed?

particulates in the jet fuel and water vapor

what are the particulates in the jet fuel

predominantly aluminum and barium

so persistent contrails are aluminum, barium and water vapor

which means persistent contrails are the same things as a chemtrail

end of discussion
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No.
The particulates in jet fuel are NOT "primarily" barium and aluminum!

Why do you people insist on making such a stupid claim?
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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Look, if we are retards, and youve got it figured out why bother posting about it all the time? This is why you are a troll and a shill. If it was as you say there would not be a thread every day calling us retarded. Fact. It would be insignificant and you would wasteyour time elsewhere.
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The truth is important and you people are indoctrinating the gullible into your religion of ignorance.

It's not a waste of time, the truth matters.
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Hey Full Of Bull, how do you explain in plain daylight, as a human slave gazes into the western sky during the process of "sunset," all of a sudden, an abrupt 4-layer grey line suddenly becomes visible with no slow start? Oh, never mind, I'm just asking an inane query so I can explain that the atmospheric conditions changed rather abruptly so as to support sudden "contrail" formation? Oh, and BTW, as the alleged commercial aircraft passed by the "sun," the alleged contrail suddenly ceased to exist? I guess our atmosphere has suddenly turned out to be supportive of contrails that happen at will?
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Hey Full Of Bull, how do you explain in plain daylight, as a human slave gazes into the western sky during the process of "sunset," all of a sudden, an abrupt 4-layer grey line suddenly becomes visible with no slow start? Oh, never mind, I'm just asking an inane query so I can explain that the atmospheric conditions changed rather abruptly so as to support sudden "contrail" formation? Oh, and BTW, as the alleged commercial aircraft passed by the "sun," the alleged contrail suddenly ceased to exist? I guess our atmosphere has suddenly turned out to be supportive of contrails that happen at will?
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER


And the only way YOU explain it is "chemtrails".

I see

And why do you fail to understand perspective?
Are you actually suggesting that the trail Stopped in front of the sun, and thats how it looks to everyone within site of the trail? What about the people who see the trail from the other side, with their backs to the sun? They see a trail with a break in it (caused by warmer/drier conditions) which is no where near the sun. Are you suggesting that they stopped "the spray" just so they could make it look a certain way from your perspective?

Bullshit
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
chemtrails and persistent contrails are the same thing

how are clouds formed?

water vapor and dust particulates

how are persistent contrails formed?

particulates in the jet fuel and water vapor

what are the particulates in the jet fuel

predominantly aluminum and barium

so persistent contrails are aluminum, barium and water vapor

which means persistent contrails are the same things as a chemtrail

end of discussion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46525435


Um...Not so much...

Try soot, and other combustion byproducts...

pick
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

My education is ..."minimal at the least" huh?

LOL! And yours is minimal, at the most.

I'm full of it? Seems I'm full of knowledge that you're not exposed to on the conspiracy sites...or in school.


I understand the distinction just fine...you miss it...because you are stupid.

I have yet to try to mislead anyone about anything...I leave that up to you ignorant chemtards.

I certainly don't rely on google. There are no filters to separate fiction from non fiction. Which is why you chemtards are so confused.
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Noble,

You have been exposed as a shallow rather uneducated individual . . . posing as an expert that you are not . . . and you would be better leaving the debate to someone who knows what they are talking about . . .I don't know about anyone else but I am through with you . . . .dead3


You add nothing but vile insults and cause people to become angry. . . You do nothing for your cause or for people seeking to understand more
except raise their blood pressure. . . .byekitty
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Oh George, I love how you referred to me as "uneducated" in your chemtard days. I never claimed to be an "expert" but there you are making false claims. Suggesting that you knew what you were talking about...while you now no you didn't.

Right there in black and white for all non-chemtards to see.

Priceless!

Thank you!
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My education is ..."minimal at the least" huh?

LOL! And yours is minimal, at the most.

I'm full of it? Seems I'm full of knowledge that you're not exposed to on the conspiracy sites...or in school.


I understand the distinction just fine...you miss it...because you are stupid.

I have yet to try to mislead anyone about anything...I leave that up to you ignorant chemtards.

I certainly don't rely on google. There are no filters to separate fiction from non fiction. Which is why you chemtards are so confused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Noble,

You have been exposed as a shallow rather uneducated individual . . . posing as an expert that you are not . . . and you would be better leaving the debate to someone who knows what they are talking about . . .I don't know about anyone else but I am through with you . . . .dead3


You add nothing but vile insults and cause people to become angry. . . You do nothing for your cause or for people seeking to understand more
except raise their blood pressure. . . .byekitty
 Quoting: Noble


Oh George, I love how you referred to me as "uneducated" in your chemtard days. I never claimed to be an "expert" but there you are making false claims. Suggesting that you knew what you were talking about...while you now no you didn't.

Right there in black and white for all non-chemtards to see.

Priceless!

Thank you!
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
Chemtrails should dissipate more widely is a more moist atmosphere, correct?

Try moving to the actual real desert, where I live. The chem trails dissipate here just as wide as they did near the beach cities in California when I was living there all my life.

So OP's original statement about the atmosphere having a factor on dissipation proving that chemtrails are false because of it is factually wrong.
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Thank you for admitting to the world that you have zero understanding of relative humidity and lapse rate.

It's much appreciated.

There is a very good reason why you believe in "chemtrails". Because you don't understand some very basic science.

Why? Didn't you get through the 7th grade!?
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Don't let then get you down. After all, you're the minority here. It would be the same as if a chemtrailtard went to a non conspiracy site started trying to convince people they'rereal. Except thered be a lot more people laugh at them. There's a reason this kind of bullshit isn't recognized in mainstream forums outside the sign holding lunatic websites.

After 50 pages of reading I haveto agree, there is more counter evidence against chemtrails than there is for them by any member here or anywhere. I'm sorry that'sthe way it is. YouTube videos vs common sense. If you want to look unintelligent, use third party videos from social networking websites vs scientific books and real education. But i guarantee The only people who will take you seriously are more of the same idiots. Common sense isn't so common. People with the need to believe the government is betraying them are just suffering from egotistical rage and issues with authority. Many of them also don'twant to be alone in their beliefs because of social acceptance issues. TThey'd rather go down as retards together than idiots alone. So never underestimate the power of stupidity. It already resulted in a 50 page thread that would not exist if there was any real evidence of this. These people are all suggesting a big secret is going on, with publicly accessible patents and public hearings put on by government officials. . That doesn't sound too secret. But don't take it seriously just because the gov sad you could do it. I remember when Mary karey and aArnold Schwarzenegger ran for office in CA.

To a conspiratard, the government is NEVER TO BE TRUSTED UNLESS IT FORTIFIES OR SUBSTANTIATES THEIR CLAIMS.

EXAMPLE: conspiratards believe NASA iisn't telling us about space dangers and NEO asteroids. That they're hiding sdo and other imagery.

EFFECT: NASA comes out saying we may experience more impacts due to a recently discovered asteroid belt. Conspieatards believe it. Becauseit plays into doom.
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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god, so sick of where's your evidence?...that's the only card you anti-chemtards have to pull these days..what a fucking joke....
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Except that chemtards are unable to produce a single shred of credible evidence.

Must suck to go through life being so stupid and paranoid.
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Epic chemtrailtard fail.
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Don't let then get you down. After all, you're the minority here. It would be the same as if a chemtrailtard went to a non conspiracy site started trying to convince people they'rereal. Except thered be a lot more people laugh at them. There's a reason this kind of bullshit isn't recognized in mainstream forums outside the sign holding lunatic websites.

After 50 pages of reading I haveto agree, there is more counter evidence against chemtrails than there is for them by any member here or anywhere. I'm sorry that'sthe way it is. YouTube videos vs common sense. If you want to look unintelligent, use third party videos from social networking websites vs scientific books and real education. But i guarantee The only people who will take you seriously are more of the same idiots. Common sense isn't so common. People with the need to believe the government is betraying them are just suffering from egotistical rage and issues with authority. Many of them also don'twant to be alone in their beliefs because of social acceptance issues. TThey'd rather go down as retards together than idiots alone. So never underestimate the power of stupidity. It already resulted in a 50 page thread that would not exist if there was any real evidence of this. These people are all suggesting a big secret is going on, with publicly accessible patents and public hearings put on by government officials. . That doesn't sound too secret. But don't take it seriously just because the gov sad you could do it. I remember when Mary karey and aArnold Schwarzenegger ran for office in CA.

To a conspiratard, the government is NEVER TO BE TRUSTED UNLESS IT FORTIFIES OR SUBSTANTIATES THEIR CLAIMS.

EXAMPLE: conspiratards believe NASA iisn't telling us about space dangers and NEO asteroids. That they're hiding sdo and other imagery.

EFFECT: NASA comes out saying we may experience more impacts due to a recently discovered asteroid belt. Conspieatards believe it. Becauseit plays into doom.
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Yeah, I understand that. But, like you, as someone who actually understands what the trails are, I have an obligation to post the truth in the face of lies because people are afraid and are threatening pilots, scientists and debunkers.


It's more of a hobby. A way to practice typing and it's also quite entertaining. I can't believe what I'm reading half the time and wonder how these people made it past the 7th grade!
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
chemtrails and persistent contrails are the same thing

how are clouds formed?

water vapor and dust particulates

how are persistent contrails formed?

particulates in the jet fuel and water vapor

what are the particulates in the jet fuel

predominantly aluminum and barium

so persistent contrails are aluminum, barium and water vapor

which means persistent contrails are the same things as a chemtrail

end of discussion
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You believe that jet fuel is made "predominantly" of aluminum and barium?!

Wow, that's just ridiculous
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