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Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

 
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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
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F U too!
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Checklist. . . Aerosol Injection
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Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering  Checklist

1.  Is there evidence of particulate or aerosols in the atmosphere which cannot be completely explained as to source and amount by Atmospheric Scientists? . . . Yes
2.  Is there evidence suggesting that the rate of global warming has changed? . . . Yes 
3.  Is there evidence of unaccounted budget and mechanisms to allocate, spend and manage projects without the public's knowledge or consent? . . . Yes
4.  Are there unidentified Aircraft that fly daily which the public  has no information about their mission, goals, flight path, altitude or purpose? . . . Yes
5. Do these unidentified Aircraft sometime leave persistent Trails? . . . Yes
6. Are there whistleblowers who have indicated that a Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program is ongoing?. . . Yes
7.  Are there in existence technology to accomplish a program of aerosol dispersal at altitude and a set of airframes available to accomplish such a mission? . . . Yes
8.  Has there been sufficient time from the development of technology and motive for  Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering programs to see them fully tested, deployed, and operational? . . . Yes 
9.  Are there sufficient aerosol materials readily available to accomplish such a dispersal program? . . . Yes
10.  Is there history of pre-existing or similar aerosol dispersal programs?. . . Yes
11.  Is there sufficient process and infrastructure to maintain secrecy and covert operations? . . . Yes
12.  Is there a history of operational research regarding the effects of (chemical)  aerosols being added to jet  fuel to monitor the visual and atmospheric measurement  effects? . . .Yes
13. Are there Local,  National,  and Global motives to engage in an aerosol dispersal program? . . . Yes
14.  Are the motives for such programs and the technology and procedures for their implementations being discussed in scientific and political organizations worldwide? . . . Yes
15. Are there national and international  laws, regulations, treaties, and organizations available ready to facilitate and not eliminate such aerosol injection programs? . . .Yes
16. Are there any monitoring programs where data is available to the public that eliminates the possibility of the existence of such a dispersal program? . . . No
17.  Is there any evidence other than official announcements from Governmental and Political sources that Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering don't exist? . . . No
18.  Is there a small yet vocal group of people who insist that such a program exists? . . . Yes
19. Is there a history of unexplained substances which have been documented that have fallen from the sky? . . .Yes
20. Have the rates of respiratory diseases, allergies, and conditions associated with the atmosphere continually risen? . . .Yes
21.  Has there been a steady increase in the number of persistent trails observed by people and reported as unusual to their memory? . . . Yes
22. Has NASA & NOAA as well as similar organizations in the UK invested significant budget and effort in soliciting the public's help to identify and report persistent trails in the sky? . . . Yes
23.  Has any practical contrail mitigation procedures or technology been invested in, deployed,  installed or become operational? . . . No
24. Has NASA utilized satellite imaging in an effort to correlate the presence of persistent trails visualized and detected from space with ground observations ? . . . Yes
25. Has NASA and other organizations presented significant research that persistent Trails and cirrus clouds may result in significant climatic impact? . . .Yes
26. Are governments capable of initiating, implementing,  maintaining, and covering up programs which have been proven to be against the best interest to the health and welfare of their citizens? . . .Yes
27. Do you have any reason to believe some type of coordinated,  high tech, aerosol injection program from altitude,  dispersed by some type of airframe has not, is not, or will not be implemented ?. . . No  
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 Quoting: George B


1) is there any evidence that anyone is placing these aerosols into the air intentionally? NO!

Is there evidence that natural processes could be responsible for the aerosols? YES!

4)Is there ANY evidence that these aircraft have ANYTHING to do with "chemtrails" whatsoever? NO! Is it just paranoid assumption that just because "the public" isn't informed about their presence..that they must be up to no good? YES!

8) Is there any evidence that anything has been deployed as far as intentional aerosol injection? NO! Is it just speculation that because "they" have had "the time and budget" to do something...that they have done it? YES!

13) Oh really? And what are the "motives"? And does "motive" mean deployment? NO! Are scientists working on MANY proposals to do fix all sorts of problems in our world? YES! Does that necessarily mean they are doing anything on a global scale? NO!

23) SO WHAT?! The only people who give a shit about the trails in the sky are whiny chemtards. I happen to think some of them are quite beautiful...and I would rather they stay there. Also, I think there are some patents out there which address this issue...but, airlines have no reason to spend money on making contrails less visible.
Also, I thought you preferred to discuss the INVISIBLE trails...flip flopping through your paranoid delusions again?

27)I have no reason to believe it HAS been implemented...This is an opinion question...and is meaningless. I'm sure there are MANY things you "believe" about many subjects..that doesn't make your OPINION about those things anything more than opinion.

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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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Go piss in the air and down onto yourself
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Go cry about trails of water vapor that you are ignorant about...

Oh, I see you are already doing that...carry on!
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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


The question is not. . . .did persistent contrails exist in the past? . . .it is the increasing number, frequency, and the threshold at which they (persistent trails) became so obvious that it was impossible for even the casual observer to ignore. . . .with increased long haul air traffic, more and more cruising at 30,000 feet plus, and more efficient jet engines over highly populated areas of the world . . . it has became very noticeable. . . .coffee4

Not to mention there has been no attempt to mitigate their occurrence by the air industry. . . .though there are several alternatives to do so. . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


F U too!
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I edited my posting you've quoted because, as you've demonstrated here, I was correct in my assumption that scrolling up and actually reading something that disagreed with your assertion would be too much effort for you to even attempt.

I guess now that it's on another page, I'll have to repost them again.

From the 40s in Life magazine:

chem2chem3

From the 50s (or perhaps early 60s) in an episode of Twilight Zone:

chem6chem7

From an article in a science book in the 70s:

chem4chem5

So, as you can see, your assertion that we're all "retards" and "dummies" because contrails were never in any media prior to recent years is incorrect.

Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.


Of course, you won't, you'll only toss out more insults, whine like a little bitch and stomp your feet a few times out of frustration.

I guess you don't comprehend that REAL MEN admit when they're wrong.
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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


The question is not. . . .did persistent contrails exist in the past? . . .it is the increasing number, frequency, and the threshold at which they (persistent trails) became so obvious that it was impossible for even the casual observer to ignore. . . .with increased long haul air traffic, more and more cruising at 30,000 feet plus, and more efficient jet engines over highly populated areas of the world . . . it has became very noticeable. . . .coffee4

Not to mention there has been no attempt to mitigate their occurrence by the air industry. . . .though there are several alternatives to do so. . . .
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No friend, he stated that contrails were never before seen in media prior to a few years ago and challenged others to prove him wrong. When he was proven wrong, he threw a little butt-hurt titty tantrum.
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Real men keep Torah.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.



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Good luck..

I have yet to see a chemtard admit that he/she is wrong about ANYTHING to do with this subject.
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Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.



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Good luck..

I have yet to see a chemtard admit that he/she is wrong about ANYTHING to do with this subject.
 Quoting: Noble


I know, tell me about it.

What always amazes me is that I almost NEVER toss about insults and start with the name calling but once someone from that side of the fence gets cornered, they throw little tantrums and become quite insulting. Not that it bothers me any ... but it DOES amaze me at how adults can behave like elementary school children on the internet.

As far as expecting a little common courtesy to be reciprocated ... one can hope, can't he?

It's for this reason that I don't have any issues with George ... He's always reciprocated the common courtesy I extend to him.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
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The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Good one...chemtard.
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Good one...chemtard.
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No problem Fucktard
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I have done no such thing you paranoid lying loser.
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I have done no such thing you paranoid lying loser.
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Still doing it. Try another AC number. We all know you agree with yourself under different names. You always have. That's why your a fake ass plastic person.
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Good one...chemtard.
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Op is a turd and he stinks from his attitude. Hey we should spray you into the atomosphere because you can deflect anything lololololol
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Good one...chemtard.
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No problem Fucktard
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Hehe, a chemtard calling anyone else a "fucktard"..Hilarious.

You chemtards are the epitome of fucktards!
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I have done no such thing you paranoid lying loser.
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I have done no such thing you paranoid lying loser.
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Still doing it. Try another AC number. We all know you agree with yourself under different names. You always have. That's why your a fake ass plastic person.
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I can only use the two numbers the site assigns me based on my two IPs. One at home...the other at work. And I have never used one to agree with the other. Go ahead...show a single instance..

Fucking liar.
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Stupid chemtard...
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Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.



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Good luck..

I have yet to see a chemtard admit that he/she is wrong about ANYTHING to do with this subject.
 Quoting: Noble


I know, tell me about it.

What always amazes me is that I almost NEVER toss about insults and start with the name calling but once someone from that side of the fence gets cornered, they throw little tantrums and become quite insulting. Not that it bothers me any ... but it DOES amaze me at how adults can behave like elementary school children on the internet.

As far as expecting a little common courtesy to be reciprocated ... one can hope, can't he?

It's for this reason that I don't have any issues with George ... He's always reciprocated the common courtesy I extend to him.
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Well, I can't agree with you about George, he has often been a douche...

And I only retaliate...I never start it.

As soon as some chemtard accuses me of being a "shill" or a liar just for pointing out that there is no evidence to support their claims..they are fair game. In fact, I actually love how they become so hypocritical after the fact...They get all whiny when I call them stupid/paranoid, after they have accused me of being in on the "plot".
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Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.



 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Good luck..

I have yet to see a chemtard admit that he/she is wrong about ANYTHING to do with this subject.
 Quoting: Noble


I know, tell me about it.

What always amazes me is that I almost NEVER toss about insults and start with the name calling but once someone from that side of the fence gets cornered, they throw little tantrums and become quite insulting. Not that it bothers me any ... but it DOES amaze me at how adults can behave like elementary school children on the internet.

As far as expecting a little common courtesy to be reciprocated ... one can hope, can't he?


It's for this reason that I don't have any issues with George ... He's always
reciprocated the common courtesy I extend to him.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



Well, I can't agree with you about George, he has often been a douche...

And I only retaliate...I never start it.

As soon as some chemtard accuses me of being a "shill" or a liar just for pointing out that there is no evidence to support their claims..they are fair game. In fact, I actually love how they become so hypocritical after the fact...They get all whiny when I call them stupid/paranoid, after they have
accused me of being in on the "plot".

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1) I never accused you of being on the plot. . . . they would use someone more capable and controllable . . .if they had a need . . . which I really don't think they do. . ..

2) I think history would show I never started insults toward you . . . you initiated it. . . .since it has been a few years now, it would be difficult to prove however, and It is not worth the effort to prove you wrong. . . .

coffee4

3) The level of courtesy you extend is minimal and very short . . . you are not a Boy Scout. . . . 1dunno1

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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
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Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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SOIL samples from the past 16 years at your local DEP will provide enough evidence for you..... We did it at Storrs UCONN here in CT and evidence is conclusive. These chemicals and elements are on the rise in surface soil and have tested positive in tree bark.
 Quoting: SENTINAL 1149758


That is from dust from farming up wind

Chemtrail ruse is being used as a cover for real problems with modern farming that is destroying the land and has given rise to new GM crops to tolerate the ruined soil.

It doesn't surprise me that colleges are being kept in the dark as their agricultural programs are all created by the large agricultural companies and modern farm practice is horrid.
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Good luck..

I have yet to see a chemtard admit that he/she is wrong about ANYTHING to do with this subject.
 Quoting: Noble


I know, tell me about it.

What always amazes me is that I almost NEVER toss about insults and start with the name calling but once someone from that side of the fence gets cornered, they throw little tantrums and become quite insulting. Not that it bothers me any ... but it DOES amaze me at how adults can behave like elementary school children on the internet.

As far as expecting a little common courtesy to be reciprocated ... one can hope, can't he?


It's for this reason that I don't have any issues with George ... He's always
reciprocated the common courtesy I extend to him.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



Well, I can't agree with you about George, he has often been a douche...

And I only retaliate...I never start it.

As soon as some chemtard accuses me of being a "shill" or a liar just for pointing out that there is no evidence to support their claims..they are fair game. In fact, I actually love how they become so hypocritical after the fact...They get all whiny when I call them stupid/paranoid, after they have
accused me of being in on the "plot".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


1) I never accused you of being on the plot. . . . they would use someone more capable and controllable . . .if they had a need . . . which I really don't think they do. . ..

2) I think history would show I never started insults toward you . . . you initiated it. . . .since it has been a few years now, it would be difficult to prove however, and It is not worth the effort to prove you wrong. . . .

coffee4

3) The level of courtesy you extend is minimal and very short . . . you are not a Boy Scout. . . . 1dunno1
 Quoting: George B


1) I wasn't referring to you...and it should have been obvious...I'm more than capable of pointing out that you people have no evidence. The first portion of my post was about you...the subsequent portions were about chemtards, and my reactions to them..in general.

2) find the fist time I insulted you, then look at your previous post. Feel free to use history against me. The fact that you accuse people of doing such awful things, based on VERY flimsy "evidence" is reason enough to point out that you are a douche...BTW.

3) I don't extend courtesy to those who haven't earned it. Chemtards are liars and accuse others of wrongdoing based on nothing more than assumption and their own paranoid intuition. You people don't deserve my courtesy. But, in RL, I'm a hell of a nice guy...and I certainly was a boy scout, at one time..
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Legislation to Ban Chemtrails Over Long Island Shows Huge Public Support

New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
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SOIL samples from the past 16 years at your local DEP will provide enough evidence for you..... We did it at Storrs UCONN here in CT and evidence is conclusive. These chemicals and elements are on the rise in surface soil and have tested positive in tree bark.
 Quoting: SENTINAL 1149758


That is from dust from farming up wind

Chemtrail ruse is being used as a cover for real problems with modern farming that is destroying the land and has given rise to new GM crops to tolerate the ruined soil.


It doesn't surprise me that colleges are being kept in the dark as their agricultural programs are all created by the large agricultural companies and modern farm practice is horrid.
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Absolutely, decades of over farming have ruined the soil..

These people have raped the land and now the elements, which were always there, are a higher concentration, by comparison.

Very good point/post.
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New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
 Quoting: Noble


[link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


So? I guess you haven't been keeping up..
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New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
 Quoting: Noble


[link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


Here is more evidence. [link to m.youtube.com]
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New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
 Quoting: Noble


[link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


[link to contrailscience.com]

Feel free to point out any errors.
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New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
 Quoting: Noble


[link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


Here is more evidence. [link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


Sorry, chaff has nothing to do with the trails in the sky...and looks nothing like the trails the chemtards are always whining about. In fact, they don't leave any trails at all! But they do confuse the RADAR..which is their intended purpose. All this weatherman is saying is that the military is supposedly engaging in some war games in that area. Please take the time to learn about chaff...what it is, and what it isn't.
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I know, tell me about it.

What always amazes me is that I almost NEVER toss about insults and start with the name calling but once someone from that side of the fence gets cornered, they throw little tantrums and become quite insulting. Not that it bothers me any ... but it DOES amaze me at how adults can behave like elementary school children on the internet.

As far as expecting a little common courtesy to be reciprocated ... one can
hope, can't he?


It's for this reason that I don't have any issues with George ... He's always
reciprocated the common courtesy I extend to him.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



Well, I can't agree with you about George, he has often been a douche...

And I only retaliate...I never start it.

As soon as some chemtard accuses me of being a "shill" or a liar just for pointing out that there is no evidence to support their claims..they are fair game. In fact, I actually love how they become so hypocritical after the fact...They get all whiny when I call them stupid/paranoid, after they have
accused me of being in on the "plot".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


1) I never accused you of being on the plot. . . . they would use someone more capable and controllable . . .if they had a need . . . which I really don't think they do. . ..

2) I think history would show I never started insults toward you . . . you initiated it. . . .since it has been a few years now, it would be difficult to prove however, and It is not worth the effort to prove you wrong. . . .

coffee4

3) The level of courtesy you extend is minimal and very short . . . you are not a Boy Scout. . . . 1dunno1

 Quoting: George B


1) I wasn't referring to you...and it should have been obvious...I'm more than capable of pointing out that you people have no evidence. The first portion of my post was about you...the subsequent portions were about chemtards, and my reactions to them..in general.

2) find the fist time I insulted you, then look at your previous post. Feel free to use history against me. The fact that you accuse people of doing such awful things, based on VERY flimsy "evidence" is reason enough to point out that you are a douche...BTW.

3) I don't extend courtesy to those who haven't earned it. Chemtards are liars and accuse others of wrongdoing based on nothing more than assumption and their own paranoid intuition. You people don't deserve my courtesy. But, in RL, I'm a hell of a nice guy...and I certainly was a boy scout, at one time..
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Disagreement with you, Noble, does not constitute a lie. . . stating a belief, in the face of criticism, does not a coward make either. . . if you were a Boy Scout. . . . you may need some remedial re-training. . . .coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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New York's Suffolk County government will held a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342995


Sorry, there is no evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are a source of "aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county.".

Thanks for the post, It brings up another point.
 Quoting: Noble


[link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


Here is more evidence. [link to m.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501748


The only thing this is "evidence" of is that you don't know what chaff is.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Well, I can't agree with you about George, he has often been a douche...

And I only retaliate...I never start it.

As soon as some chemtard accuses me of being a "shill" or a liar just for pointing out that there is no evidence to support their claims..they are fair game. In fact, I actually love how they become so hypocritical after the fact...They get all whiny when I call them stupid/paranoid, after they have
accused me of being in on the "plot".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


1) I never accused you of being on the plot. . . . they would use someone more capable and controllable . . .if they had a need . . . which I really don't think they do. . ..

2) I think history would show I never started insults toward you . . . you initiated it. . . .since it has been a few years now, it would be difficult to prove however, and It is not worth the effort to prove you wrong. . . .

coffee4

3) The level of courtesy you extend is minimal and very short . . . you are not a Boy Scout. . . . 1dunno1

 Quoting: George B


1) I wasn't referring to you...and it should have been obvious...I'm more than capable of pointing out that you people have no evidence. The first portion of my post was about you...the subsequent portions were about chemtards, and my reactions to them..in general.

2) find the fist time I insulted you, then look at your previous post. Feel free to use history against me. The fact that you accuse people of doing such awful things, based on VERY flimsy "evidence" is reason enough to point out that you are a douche...BTW.

3) I don't extend courtesy to those who haven't earned it. Chemtards are liars and accuse others of wrongdoing based on nothing more than assumption and their own paranoid intuition. You people don't deserve my courtesy. But, in RL, I'm a hell of a nice guy...and I certainly was a boy scout, at one time..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Disagreement with you, Noble, does not constitute a lie. . . stating a belief, in the face of criticism, does not a coward make either. . . if you were a Boy Scout. . . . you may need some remedial re-training. . . .coffee4
 Quoting: George B


I didn't say you are a liar for disagreeing with me...I also said, in general...again, that chemtards are liars...it has nothing to do with you and I. Stating a belief usually begins with the words..."It is my belief...." that's not what chemtards, in general, do! They make statements of fact without providing evidence to support them. YOU make statements of opinion..and then act like everyone isn't as intelligent as you for not jumping to the same conclusions. It's quite hilarious.

It's not I that needs remedial training...I think you need to go back to science 101 and learn about why making assumptions and jumping to conclusions based on connecting dots that don't even exist...is bad practice.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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OH NO! A paranoid chemtard accused me of being a shill!

Man, like THAT doesn't happen every day!
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Being a chemtard is being lazy.

I used to consider the possibility until I looked into it in depth.

The "movement" is being used to cover up real problems if people would just take the time to investigate instead of following ranting people who do not use logic and reason to come to conclusions.

STOP BEING CHEMSHEEP and LOOK INTO THE "EVIDENCE" THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED!!

The chemical compositions are real but they are NOT coming from airplane traffic.

When you start taking up time ranting about conspiracies with bad evidence at government meetings it makes it easy for stuff to get slipped right through that really DOES hurt you.