Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

Prove what?...That I am more educated than you?

Let's see

I don't make up faerie tales about clouds?

First, you are simply wrong...

The current upper value as stipulated by Defence Standard 91-91 and ASTM
D1655 is 3000ppm(m) whilst there is no mandatory minimum value. However, the
mean fuel sulphur concentration within the United Kingdom and the United States is
significantly lower than the stipulated maximum value and is about 600-800
ppm(m).

www.easa.europa.eu/.../EASA_SULPHUR_Project_11-01-2010.pdf

Secondly, sulphur content is low for road diesel as it kills catalytic converters...

Look it up...

Sorry loser, there is no "shill handbook"...and I'm not a "shill".

You are just a paranoid moron who thinks people who understand these subjects have to have some nefarious agenda to post the truth where paranoid idiots post lies.

That's pathetic.

That's just what "they" want you to think!

LOL!!


Hey, did you see my question about a baitcast setup?

lol...Yes...

I have one or two baitcasters, but prefer spin cast...

I am a 'Spoon Puller' at heart...Use some old Penn 209's for Salmon and Lakers...

Oh...

Not paranoid. I just have you pegged. And I don't think you have an agenda. I know you have an agenda. You have no understanding of anything. You are like a computer. No thoughts of your own. You only spout the counter-intel talking points you have been programmed to say.

There are counter-intel goons like you that pop up on forums across the internet to insult and counter the spreading of intelligence with regards to geo-engineering by concerned citizens.

Nope, you don't have me pegged. You have simply jumped to conclusions based on your paranoid world view.

Why have "thoughts" of your own about subjects which are explained which have millions of man hours of scientific research over several decades, backing them up.

There is no evidence that the trails we all see in the sky have anything to do with any geoengineering program...and there is no evidence that "geoengineering" has even begun...sorry!

Department of Redundancy Department

Why didn't you answer this part of the question . . . ?


"Also why do research where you test the visibility of combustion trails from aircraft where the sulfur content is 5,000 ppm. . . .???? Seems a waste of money and time to me. . . .don't you think. . . just inquiring minds at work here. ." .

How the hell would I know why these people are performing research...wherever and whenever...under what conditions?!

Who gives a shit?!


Oh yeah...you...a nobody conspiracy nut...

Carry on...

Get real Mr. counter intelligence operative. The scientific community is not trying to figure out jack squat. They already know the spraying is going on. Everybody knows. And you know. And that is why nobody respects you. Your trying to convince us that 2 plus 2 equals 50 with transparent appeals to authority.

You got nothing but appeals to authority. What happens when the authority is compromised?

Why ask. . . .because the issue is relevant . . . if the maximum allowable concentration of sulfur in jet fuel is 3,000 ppm and the average is between 500-800 ppm. . . why would one test at 5,000. . . especially when everyone is talking about lowering the maximum allowed. . . .

"Mr. counter intelligence operative"

I laugh every time I read that shit..

Why would i have to be any such thing to post information that has been understood for hundreds of years.

YOUR ignorance about the relationship between air saturation and temperature is just plain sad! I couldn't care less if chemtards "respect" me or not...I don't respect a single one of you people. And I never will...

The fact that you people don't understand this basic science has NOTHING to do with me...whatsoever.

I have no idea...why don't you just jump to conclusions and assume the worst of people? That will mean what you come up with will be truth.

I get it!

Just give a plausible explanation Noble . . . I am not asking you to be a Chemtard . . .

All your air saturation nonsense is worthless. The reason jet trails out of particular jets don't dissipate these day is simply because the substance coming out of them is different. No special understanding is needed.

The trial balloon articles they put out about prospective geo-engineering projects tell us what they're doing. They are already spraying to anyone with eyes but you want us to wait for so authority figure in a white lab coat to tell us what we already know.

I don't need a weather expert to tell me when it's raining.

All your shill counter-intel "science" is just obfuscation.

You're wrong...

And you are an idiot...and a paranoid one at that.

And "they" may already be "spraying". That has nothing to do with my point...The point is, the trails are NOT evidence of any "spraying".

I feel sorry for someone with such limited knowledge..and such a negative world view.

I pity you.

Why don't you ask THEM...and let me know what the answer they give is...and why you reject it...(as if I won't know why).

I asked for YOUR opinion Noble . . . why do YOU think they are spiking jet fuel up to 5,000 ppm to test its visibility . . ? Seems an easy enough question . . .

Ask 'them'...

You keep erroneously saying that...

The 3000ppm is a DOD maximum allowable for contract buying of jet fuel...

That number has nothing to do with the civi use of fuels...

Not a paranoid world view. I just have you pegged. And I demand the right to say 2 plus two equals 4.

And no, you don't pity me. That is a lie. Someone sociopathic enough to run counter-intelligence for a program which poisons all life on the planet, including yourself, feels no pity for anything.

And yes, the fact the the trails are not dissipating is all the evidence we needs. Couple that with their admitted intent and motive to do exactly what we are observing and the evidence is overwhelming.

I am asking YOUR opinion . . . I don't care about THEIR answer . . . why would you spike sulfur in jet fuel to 5,500 ppm when the maximum allowed concentration is 3,000 and the average is 300 to 800 . . .

Please refer to the bottom of page (7) . . .
[link to www.easa.europa.eu]

Denial is the inability to believe in the existence or reality of something. Denial is a problem that can be very dangerous, causing the person or others to rationalize, underestimate, and minimize situations. The person always feels they are in control and isn’t always able to see the negative consequences...

[link to www.youtube.com]

Environ Sci Technol. 2012 Apr 17;46(8):4275-82. Epub 2012 Mar 28.

Source
Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States. [email protected]


". In contrast, the maximum sulfur content of aviation fuel has remained unchanged at 3000 ppm (although sulfur levels average 600 ppm in practice)."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Last Edited by George B on 06/14/2012 05:29 PM

My opinion doesn't matter...it has nothing to do with the trails..

Who cares?

Just a bunch of chemtards...

Right, you are in denial about your lack of knowledge in the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science.

Yes, you have a paranoid world view. I know for a fact...because your accusations are just plain wrong...and are based on your world view.

With your claims about the trails...you are using your right to claim 2 plus 2 equals pudding...you are just that far off...and too ignorant to know it.

I do pity you...to know you chemtards exist...and live your lives believing in such nonsense makes me feel bad for you...pity.


Everything we do pollutes the planet..all engines pollute..including airplane engines...but, the trails are NOT part of the pollution. They are the water vapor created through combustion.


The trails not dissipating has NOTHING to do with the composition of the trail...just the ambient air...sorry, it's all about air saturation, air temp and engine efficiency. Your ignorance about those things is pathetic, considering how much time you spend discussing the subject. It's also quite funny!

I understand that there's motive and intent in reference to "geoengineering". And I agree..it's a bad idea...but, the trails are contrails, and have nothing to do with geoengineering. Sorry.


If you are going to argue against geoengineering, you should learn what it is...and what it isn't. And you aren't even close. You aren't helping the cause. You're just making a fool of yourself.