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Here we go again...

No, vapor trails are NOT "vapor trails". Anything can be made into a vapor and chemtards believe these vapors are "chemicals" which are intentionally deposited into the atmosphere. I believe there is no evidence that ANY of the trails are anything more than contrails from commercial/military/civilian aviation. I'm asking for evidence to prove me wrong...and NO ONE has provided any!


And that doesn't mean that contrails are part of any intentional program to put 'vapor" into the air.

Yes, fire retardant is hazardous...so is fire.

No, I'm using my eyes...PLUS my education in these subjects..

Oh, and you use your "intuition and common sense" right?! Yeah, common sense covers all facets of aviation, atmospheric science and the jet engine...right?

Fucking ignorant chemtard.

Is that your mom's taco I smell?

It is called fewer major volcanic eruptions until very recently coupled with major gains in ground source abatement . . . The intentional aerosol injections were probably engineered to fill the gap but couldn't keep up. . . .

Seems this info from 2011 conflicts with your statement. . ..

NOAA study: Increase in particles high in Earth’s atmosphere has offset some recent climate warming

July 21, 2011

A recent increase in the abundance of particles high in the atmosphere has offset about a third of the current climate warming influence of carbon dioxide (CO2) change during the past decade, according to a new study led by NOAA and published today in the online edition of Science

“Stratospheric aerosol increased surprisingly rapidly in that time, almost doubling during the decade,” Daniel said. “The increase in aerosols since 2000 implies a cooling effect of about 0.1 watts per square meter – enough to offset some of the 0.28 watts per square meter warming effect from the carbon dioxide increase during that same period.”
Sources of aerosols reach the stratosphere from above and below as shown in the graph. Sulfur dioxide (SO2), carbonyl sulfide (OCS), and dimethyl sulfide(DMS) are the dominant surface emissions which contribute to aerosol formation.
[link to www.noaanews.noaa.gov]


My NOTE: There is no evidence the sulfur compounds are all from surface emissions . . . why . . . they were measured in or near the stratosphere . . .

:Sulfur Graph:

Hmmmm . . . I noticed these measurements are all ground measurements . . . Obviously showing EPA is doing a fine job in ground source abatement . . . Wonder what percentage of the decrease was due to all that additional air traffic added during the same years . . . Spewing out more sulfur compounds than ever before . . . Subtract low altitude for high altitude injection of sulfur I think . . .

Yes there is...

And levels are still lower than they were in the 70's...

BTW...From your link:

“The ‘background’ stratospheric aerosols are more of a player than we thought,” said Daniel. “The last decade has shown us that it doesn’t take an extremely large volcanic eruption for these aerosols to be important to climate.”



Last Edited by SnakeAirlines on 06/21/2012 02:28 PM

No that would be the taco your burning right in front of you on the grill Taco boy. You had better straighten up. The folks at Taco Bell hate when you waste their food.

That is simply because the concept of chemtrails is totally alien to their world view . . , since they are . . . The only logical explanation is volcanic sources which they have already stated were in decline . . .

That is simply because the concept of chemtrails is totally alien to their world view . . , since they are . . . The only logical explanation is volcanic sources which they have already stated were in decline . . .

Or they are 'simply' more intelligent than you...

Or maybe I am more insightful and willing to explore more rational explanations . . . They are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole . . . simply because they are not allowed to think freely and consider aerosol sources other than volcanoes. . . .

More particulate in the stratosphere than can be explained = (unknown source) + declining ground sources - major volcanic eruptions

(unknown source) = some unknown volcanic activity

Or

(unknown source) = intentional aerosol injection program

I choose = intentional aerosol injection program

Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 04:55 PM

It's not evidence of ignorance, it's evidence that the substance coming from those particular jets is not the same as it used to be. You so called knowledge about evolving jet engine technology is bogus counter-intel meant to confuse people.

All your counter-intelligence jargon is not going to change anyones mind.

The amount of people aware is increasing by orders of magnitude. You know it, and I know it.

The amount of searches for ""chemtrails" on search engines increases. The amount of documentation on you tube increases. The amount of calls to officials increases.

Most important, the amount of people aware that the symptoms of climate change and global usually blamed on carbon dioxide, are in fact being caused by covert geo-engineering programs is increasing.

Sorry, larger, more efficient jet engines create more water vapor. YOUR ignorance of that fact is NOT my problem.

Again, there is NO EVIDENCE that the trails are anything more than contrails. Thanks for proving my point...paranoid loser.

Just because people search for "chemtrails" doesn't mean they exist...

People search for vampires and unicorns also...

That were a knee slapper, that were...

That's it . . . What a disappointment . . . You can do better than that . . .

I repeat . . .

More particulate in the stratosphere than can be explained = (unknown source) + declining ground sources - major volcanic eruptions

(unknown source) = some unknown volcanic activity

Or

(unknown source) = intentional aerosol injection program

I choose = intentional aerosol injection program

Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 04:57 PM

Except I proved with your own link that NOAA disagrees with you...

You have proven they don't accept any answer that is not politically correct for them to make . . .

Of COURSE you know better than real scientists...

It is not the first time scientists have had blinders on . . . I would point to the struggle Physicians had accepting the role of germs and the need for hand washing and sterile techniques between treating patients . . .

Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 05:26 PM

The study had painstakingly gone on for three years, compiling large amounts of data. Through the death of a friend and mentor, an insight
came to him that helped him solve the riddle. It was common practice for students and doctors to go to the delivery wards just after completing autopsies for research or classroom studies.  Sanitary conditions were primitive, for this was before germ theory was developed.  Often, physicians did not wash their hands between autopsy and delivery.  As a result, they were carrying an invisible particle of infection on their hands from the cadavers to the mothers.  In other words, the doctors were inadvertently introducing into the mother’s body the infection that would kill her.  This would also explain the discrepancy between the two divisions:  midwives did not do autopsies.

Semmelweis ordered the doctors and students in his division to adopt a hand-washing technique employing a chlorine solution before they delivered any baby.  The change had an immediate impact.  In 1848, the first full year of hand-washing techniques were applied; and deaths fell dramatically, moving in line with rates from the other division and rates reported for home births.  The mortality rate after hand washing dropped from 1 in 10 to 1 in 100.





While this was a major break-through, do you think the medical world and work immediately celebrated?  No.  In fact, Semmelweis was not reappointed to his position the next year.   Even worse, it was so divisive that his division discontinued the hand-washing practice after he was not reappointed, and the mortality rate among mothers returned to their much-higher rates.  It would be almost 20 years before it was shown how Semmelweis’ “invisible cadaver
particles”—caused putrefaction in dead bodies and hospitals began to adapt the practical strategies of minimizing infection.

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Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 05:45 PM

Ok, so STILL no evidence that the trails are anything but contrails?!

I'll check back later...

Keep trying chemtwats...

Sorry, just because it's unexplained, doesn't mean it's not normal and/or natural. Or, from other man made sources...such as increased coal use....or the like.

You CHOOSE "intentional aerosol injection program" only because you are a paranoid loser/conspiracy nut...not because you have sufficient evidence.

Seems your scientists . . . Who know more than you . . . Didn't cite increased coal burning or other human sources as a possible cause . . . They liked the invisible volcanic eruptions card as their explanations . . .


They sort of pulled it out of thin air . . . Pun intended . . .

Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 06:39 PM

Wouldn't that be "normal and/or natural" douchebag?!

Also, do you understand what "or" or "such as" mean...stupid?

Of course they know more than I do...and they certainly know more than you will ever know about the atmosphere...they didn't get their educations from google...

FFS you incredible twat...

We are talking about world wide atmospheric levels including over shit-loads of countries that are not in bed with the 'West'...

You really are a piece of work...

Yes, and your point is . . . ?

Seems like that is what NOAA was talking about . . .world wide increase in particulate in the stratosphere . . . Not just over the west . . . An intentional aerosol program affects the whole world equally . .

Last Edited by George B on 06/21/2012 10:08 PM

Ok, so no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails...yet?

I'll check back later...

Good luck chemturds.